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Searching for Solutions -Hopelessly Burnt from IPL - Newark, DE

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It has been 1.5 yrs since my one and only session...

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It has been 1.5 yrs since my one and only session of extremely aggressive IPL which left me burnt.
I was told it would help me with the dark spots near my ear and overall skin health. Don forget improve wrinkles. LOL
I know my case is hopeless but I post this for others so they can see this and steer clear of IPL.
I plan to write a lot more later.
Considering a lift and or FT.
Advice is welcome.
Texture, fat loss, burnt creases,dents, divets, scraps Etc...
This has been a devastating experience.
IPL is NOT safe.
Laser and IPL destroy lives:)
Sorry my pictures are horrific but I want the world to see what destruction IPL can cause.

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Rose Rodowtiz

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July 10, 2015
Advice is welcomed.
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October 12, 2015
Dear Ttegdapnej, I am no expert in what you are going thru, but may I suggest you go the natural, gentle way and use Organic Rosehip oil with Rosemary E.O. (helps regenerate skin cells) which help to erase scars, improve wrinkles and help with discoloration and inflammation. Use it externally every night (I love it, I also added Thyme and Lavender E.O.) and internally during the day, take high doses of Collagen, Vitamin C, COQ10, Niacin and eat plenty of protein and real, fresh food and water. I am seeing good results with lightening my melasma, scars, wrinkles, and hyperpigmentation, even sunken eyes from Botox on Crow's feet wrinkles, getting plumped up. I almost went and had IPL done for my dark spots; but you saved me, so I am grateful to you. Also try to use products with Aloe Vera, drinks or face serums, do not apply the fresh aloe vera plant gel on face because it can cause darkening of the skin because it becomes oxidated with exposure to air. Hugs.
July 13, 2015
Thank you for posting pictures. I know this was very hard for me so I admire your courage. I also wanted to say that I do not think your pictures are horrific at all but I know that I cannot convince you otherwise and I do not want to downplay your feelings. What advice have you gotten from doctors? Have you tried any topicals to help with the texture? Right now, I am trying to treat my textural damage with dermapen and TCA peels alone with retin a. I will post an update in a month or so. I just wanted to tell you that you are not alone in this battle and I am here for your support. Many I have talked to have said that they have seen improvement at the 3 year mark. I don't want to get your hopes up but this is just what I have heard from a few. Take care!
July 13, 2015
Thank for Your kind words of encouragement.

I saw some of your holes which are similar to mine near your nose.
Be gentle. I tried to exfoliate too soon. At seven months I was still healing.
I pray you are right about three years, but I am was seriously hurt by ipl experience. I feel my case is hopeless but I keep trying.


Tried retina a made things worse.
Only gentle moisturizers, now
Led , lactic peel, microderm had no improvement.
Dermarolling aggravated it.
TCA and derm pen are my next step.
TCA -Especially since you said it did not hurt you.
I feel I have to try fixing texture before addressing fat loss with some thing more drastic.
Juve ultra plus helped, have not post pictures of that. Did that on May 21st
I did use Accutane for 27 days in March. 5mg daily.
Cleared an area near my lower right back cheeks, got sick from it
Had to stop.
Trying again, one time a day every three days five mg.
low dose according Wayne on fraxel..surprised is all that is needed for improvement. He did a lot of research. Mikka also say she trying again she got sick but was seeing improvement. Unfortunately accutane is a very dangerous chemical.

Again thanks!!!
July 13, 2015
Help from docs LOL.
Dr Brandow has been only one to help me. PS in Philly. Still trying to find one closer by.
They either told me that they would not or could not help me. Derms told me give up, it is permanent and it will only get worse.
One told me it was natural aging, in 1.5 yrs I look older than my mother with unexplainable weird skin.
A few derms and PS offered to under the damage with a deeper penetrating lasers. Sorry but I have been to so many consults and they are so disappointing. So I have to be own doc. Spent tons of money on lotions with no results.
$$$$$$$$$ and time.
So I do what others on RS have done to improve.
I will do.......
Dermapens Peels,lift,fillers, FT and accutane.
I just trying improve it.
July 13, 2015
My own doc
July 13, 2015
Yes TCA are next. Hope you heal with them.
July 15, 2015
I'm so sorry you were injured and have been in pain searching for help for so long. It looks like a lot of folks most damaged had the nicest skin before this with little photodamage, and it seems the skin was so well cared for that any heat/light traumatized such pure skin. Have you gotten much feedback as to how this could happen be it settings, machine malfunction, fair skin, etc? It is alarming that doctors suggest it might get worse with time since the body is suppose to heal over time. Not sure why they felt that way? So sorry, my sincere sympathies.
July 15, 2015
I don't know much about the 3 year mark -- was that typical for both IPL and fraxel injuries? I read fat loss can sometimes take up to a year. It seems most damage from ipl surfaces within 6 months. In many cases the sweat glands oil glands and blood vessels are compromised from the heat/light, and I wonder if these re-working again are sort of a pre-requisite for the skin to start healing.
July 15, 2015
Yes too close, too many times Ect...
July 15, 2015
I do sweat, but burnt areas seem dry.
July 22, 2015
Did you order the accutane online, or did you get from a Dr.? It seems Drs won't prescribe w/o 2 forms of birth control confirmed by test. Also, most doctors want to prescribe the higher doses, when it seems all one might need is a very low dose.
July 23, 2015
Online. Not doc prescribe.
No derm will help. There is of derms and ps tha will help laser damage person, especially in my area.
Research as much as I could.
My primary doc helped me deal with the side effects after a long lecture. I think she pities me.
July 23, 2015
Five mg daily or every other day is all that is needed.
Help. But accutane has been black box by FDA where as laser go on their merry way.
July 23, 2015
Sorry there is shortage of derms
July 23, 2015
Do you feel the accutane has helped? Will you send me a private message with the name of the online pharmacy you purchased this from? I will probably wait at least a year to go this route but want to know where to purchase from if I decide to.
July 24, 2015
Yes it does help slowly. Less damage areas will clear with small pinholes and lines will be better.
Improvement will notice.
But idk ice pick scaring and extreme fat loss that I have near my nose.
It is definitely not making it worse reagarding skin texture.
Could help you? I think.
July 24, 2015
Crucial to get inflammation in the dermis completely under control so healing can really begin. There are a couple of options I've heard about but have not tried: 1) Psoria Gold (non-prescription, available from a website), which uses a turmeric derivative. Turmeric is powerfully anti-inflammatory. The only issue as I understand it is that the molecule is too large to penetrate well. The other topical I've seen mentioned for this is Voltaren gel, which is prescription. Potential issues there include increased sun sensitivity, which ironically we already have due to the IPLs... .
July 24, 2015
BTW I'm about six years out now. It does get better. But right now make sure you are not doing anything at all to create further inflammation. It's a long slow frustrating process.
July 24, 2015
Thanks
October 14, 2015
Hi, what did you do for your skin? How much better is it now for you ( 6 years later)?
October 14, 2015
Btw: I'm asking Normal Again, I hope to hear back from you.
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July 13, 2015
You are really brave for showing your whole face, I think you are amazing. There is no way anyone could dare say there is no change and it's all in your mind. I think it's disgusting how damaging this tech can be and its a disgrace that some doctors still deny it can happen. I really hope your skin heals, this is such an unfair thing to have happen to you. *hugs*
July 14, 2015
Thanks
July 14, 2015
Thank you for posting. You are very brave. The world needs to see the REAL before and after photos of what can happen with this crap technology. I had the same experience: decent skin before IPL, one aggressive tx, and now I have the same issues: depressions, many little holes as if I had much worse acne than I ever had, and little wrinkles, like the IPL fried my collagen or something. Oh, and I also have bleeding from the pores! What joy! I URGE you to please make a report to the FDA's adverse event database, WITH before and after pictures. The authorities have NO CLUE this is happening, and rely SOLELY on what the IPL manufacturers tell them, because Congress has changed the Medical device development and sales laws to make the FDA unable to do much unless there is a large outcry and many reports. Too many injured people out there are not making reports. I made a report, and it wasn't easy (FDA lost my 1st report, I had to call for a few days before I got a live person who gave me an FDA email I could send my report w/ photos to, etc). See my review on this website. The worst part is that there is NO RESEARCH going into how to fix the damage caused by these IPLs. I have been to several different doctors, and all they could tell me was baby my face, maybe try fillers (that might work, but I am terrified of any more complications), and just NEVER DO IPL AGAIN, in fact, don't do any procedure that involves intense heat (for ex: electrocautery), stay out of the sun, use Retin A, etc. I have found that RetinA, coupled w/ good moisturizers (like Cerave Cream in a tub), and constant ss use, has helped somewhat, as any dryness accentuates the problem, but nothing so far has "fixed" it. I also had to change cleansers to a less drying cleanser (from Cerave foaming and bar soaps to cleansers like Cerave Hydrating, Neutrogena Ultra Gentle Hydrating, ) and avoiding products containing more than say 14% alcohol helps a little. Using dimethicone primers / products helps smooth out the appearance of the holes a little (temporary only). The key is to try to plump up and smooth the skin out.
July 14, 2015
Thanks. I have made every attempt that I could both state and FDA to put very strict standards on these devices. I failed, sorry. I do not want keep seeing plp hurt. I am focusing on trying to put my face together and move on for my family's sake. It has taken toll on them as well.
The reason I have not posted much more, is bc I am seriously traumatized. I hope I can share my story, with everyone later.
I never plan to get a lift and Ft, peels. A year ago I knew nothing about this stuff. I laid in agony for two months after IPL while my calls to the place that hurt me was ignored, until I brought state regulation board and wrote the CEO to investigate. I could go onbut .... Sigh
I just want solutions to put myself back together so I am some what human again. Thanks.
July 16, 2015
You are not responsible for what FDA or the state does or does not do. If you reported it, then you've done your part and that's that. I have also had SOME temporary improvement with texture and redness from using Mirvaso. The bid holes are still there, it's just that some of the orange peel texture seems slightly lessened w/ Mirvaso. I can't use that every day though, as it is a new med and I am fearful of rebound redness.
July 16, 2015
What is Mirvaso?
July 20, 2015
Thank you for putting your story out there. I'm so sorry and I totally understand. I filed a report to the FDA and got a response from them that they'd look into it.
July 20, 2015
Thanks, good I hope something stops people from getting hurt.
July 20, 2015
Thanks, I will look into Mirvaso.
Some areas of my skin are similar to yours.
I am on accutane right now.
I let you all know if anything helps or works.
Thanks for your support.
July 28, 2015
Stop it. Please. No I was using accutane during treatment. I was not using any meds. I did not use accutane until a year and three months later when I realize my situation was permanent and after Reading fraxel..surprise. Please read blogs on laser damage.
Become familiar. With what can go wrong. Read and talk to them iamsorrynow2,
Cveroleyva , k2014, ect... Linda I am taking break. Unless you have this kind of damage, and or you have corrected this type of damage, I do not think you understand. Please read real selfer istotretinoin blogs. It was Pearl cutrea that hurt me. Please learn from their experiences. If you have a solution I think everyone on real self would like to know what it is. If not, just stop.
July 14, 2015
I couldn't agree with you more! So sorry!
UPDATED FROM IPLsurvivor
1 year post

Things I Have Tried

IPLsurvivor
Possible solutions all are risky-----------------------------/---------
Zinc oxide helped with burning along with cold compresses when it first happened. Helped
Juvederm ultra plus one syringe -helped, but had tooth pain that went away, juve did not last as long as I hoped. Definitely needed more.
Accutane at five mg a day for twenty seven days -cleared right back cheek-less damage area -had to stop due to intestine pain,a kidney stone, severe dehydration,back pain and hair thinning, stop after it left my system.
Dermarollering, derma planning, Retina A, and LED- aggravated skin texture.
Microderm and Lactic acid 20% = no change
Weight gain- forty lbs mildly helped the less damaged areas
Second try on accutane, five mg with lots of liquids and skip days if side affects occur.......currently on day twenty.
Time helped reduce redness but as redness left fat loss and burn creases showed.
Lotions helped keep skin from drying out but not with changes to skin.
Aloe plant helps mildly.
Honey and oil =no change
Advice from real selfers -definitely helped
Avoid mirrors with bright lights- helps emotionally.
Prayers and hugs to get through each day. Definitely helped.

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July 24, 2015
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July 29, 2015
This is my second comment to you, so sorry. Maybe you can try taking supplements such as Vitamin E, CoQ10, royal jelly, and any that help heal, nourigh and regenerate your skin cells. MSM and Biotin can help too because they are building blocks to hair, nails and skin. You are still pretty, specially inside and for being so courageous and warn others about the danger, you are a beautiful being, and you too shall be helped, be patient. Lots of love.
July 29, 2015
Thanks leopard. Trying so fix texture as much possible before address fat and lift.
I had been taking biotin and c. I can add e too.
I waiting til after accutane now bc it so hard on the liver to clean all the stuff with vitamin a drowning it. I heard zinc too, but it is a metal and My poor liver can only do one thing right now.
July 29, 2015
Trying so hard to fix my texture as much as possible before addressing FT and lift.
Iam waiting fate accutane bc it is so hard on the liver.
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July 29, 2015
I was on Accutane and I'm still dealing with hair loss. What did you use to rid it from your system? Sorry to hear you are going through this.
July 29, 2015
I am on very low dose five mg every day or every other day. I stop and take break if I feel things are getting out of hand.
I am trying to stick with it bc the quality of life is low since the ipl damage.
Also I would get a blood test for liver, gall bladder, pancreas,and kidney to make sure that are functioning okay. This creates hair loss.
I read lot about this scary crap about accutane. Eat healthy of course, I heard colonic / enamas and bowel preps. Clean your colon out. Also your hair may just be dry so no washing it but only use conditoner. Rogan. Just stuff I read. Good luck.
July 29, 2015
Just read your review. 100 mg wow! Irresponsible doctor.
It is gonna take time since you we're taking such a high dose.
But I think once it is out system you will be fine. Eat lots of veggie , but keep away from things with vitamin -a.
June 11, 2016
Try increasing your healthy fat in your diet..coconut oil is really good for your skin. Blend it into your coffee and you will barely taste it. I had fat loss from rf and I am doing topical emu, avacado, macadamia, argan oils...they can increase blood flow, decrease inflammation without side effects of accutane and thicken the skin. The fats in skin oil are actually absorbed into the skin. Leave anything with parabens alone and try to get off glutin. The redness should decrease and your skin will thicken in a good way. Most topical oils are naturally antimicrobial so hopefully you will have less acne. Research the oils for yourself. They make my skin feel like a babys. Fat grafting may be an option as well or prp..I am looking into that.
April 17, 2017
I know this is an old post. I am so heartbroken for you, for me and the rest of us damaged by laser. I hope there is some miracle cream that will treat all the damage done. I am currently healing myself from the laser damage on my skin - hypo,hyper, crepey skin, volume loss, lines, pinholes and orange peel skin damage. Hope your skin has great improved my now.
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1 year post

IPL creates vampires. Vampires can cry.

IPLsurvivor
IPL Torture From Crispy critter to vampire

I was a normal plain and well adjusted person. At least I think I was. A mother, wife and daughter who loved her family very much. Very outgoing, sometimes a little too loud and silly, always trying to fit a little more to her day. The day was not long enough. Love the morning sunshine. I use to tire my two year old daughter out when we played on the playground. Lots of energy. Never really did too much beauty stuff, never had time for it. No makeup unless I had family photos.

This is how one session with pearl cutrea IPL laser on December 13, 2013 turned me into crispy critter for seven months and then to a vampire. I should of known if was Friday the thirteenth Yes a vampire. A Vampire is only creatures that seems to live like this . IPL vampire.True story without a happy ending, sorry everyone. If you are reading this I am sorry if you were hurt in the same way I was, it truly is a form cruel torture. You might want to skip up to solutions, if not interested in my story.

I do want to look mirrors, bright daylight, can not be sun without burning to crisp, prefer to be in the dark, do not sleep through night or have nightmares. I found no enjoy in anything as if my soul were suck out through my skins. I go through the motion of living for my family's sakes. Much like Jim Henson's Dark Crystal. Science fiction? I think not.

It just takes an over aggressive treatment, wrong setting, too close to the skin, and or too many passes to change a perfectly happy person into living dead. You are alive but do want to be, you feel dead inside. If you are reading this my guess you are hurt too.


Yes vampires can cry rivers of tears. For first couple of months,tears that will never run out , just pure exhaustion is the only thing that stops them.

So sorry......
I plan on posting everything that I try to let others know what works and what does not.

Keep busy. Keep hope. Keep trying to live.



Hope for healing is why I keep trying....

It is hard to have hope when you are stuck in a permanent situation with no solution.



So I will tell you some of my sad horror story.
I went to my derm and told her I was concerned about the discoloration (small sun or age spots) on my lower arms and side of my face. She told me to go down stairs to see aestecitian in the cosmetic surgery department. My aestecian told me about laser genis with pearl cutrea and microderm for me. I told I would improved the overall health of my skin, rejuvenate it like facial. I explained that I could not handle anything traumatic, I had two year old and I did not want that was risky. There was virtually no risk it was noninvasive. She said she would on entire face to help with wrinkles and even tone the coloring,

Two weeks -had a tan
Third notice lines comb marks and lines ( laser stripping)
Three weeks- crinkle burns lower front right cheek and red micro holes appeared all over my skin
Burning occurred for two months
Two months I noticed scratch, dents and fine linear lines

Four months still red and burning with a small scab on my left check and very pitted sinus area
Six months some very small strip skin near the edges of my face came off seemed healed barring minor microscopic holes and rest remain as it was.
Seven months before the redness subsided for me too see what I was left with was orange texture on my entire face
Fast forward one year later orange peel skin, crappy smile, deep pores in my sinus area and orange peel skin on forehead little more shallow. Sunken cheeks, weird lines and perpetrated face,

My iPad does not capture the texture to its true horror.



Added info......

IPL damage can cause
Fat loss , I do not care what medical people say, there are many people on real self that can testify to this
Wrinkle
Microholes
scratches up and down the face
Nerve damage
Burns, which I was told was impossibility by the place messed my face up.

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July 23, 2015
Sounds like you had laser genesis not ipl. I had fraxel restore and have the same damage. I know the vampire life. You sound a lot like me.
July 24, 2015
Could be?......there have benne lots lie and covering up at the place that hurt me. Especially with their paperwork during the investigation.
July 24, 2015
There been lost of lies
July 23, 2015
I'm so sorry for your problems! I had similar issues caused by a chemical peel that burned off the top layer of dermis and I never regained the same level of elasticity in my face again (crepe paper skin, etc).

However, a new doctor recommended IPL to fix my issues, and it actually helped. I've now gone to a couple of doctors for additional IPL pick-me-ups once a year or so. And use costly cream that seems to keep my skin looking decent at 54.

I think there are different kinds of IPL (latest doc uses cool touch, this cold tip that cools the skin immediately after it zaps you). I did have one spot that burned too hard one time and it did leave a scar-like indentation. Perhaps the trick is keeping the setting low until you see what your skin can handle. I don't know...again, sorry for your problems. I've learned to go to doctors (dermatologists) and stop dealing with medical spas.
July 24, 2015
Thanks. I wish luck. I would be worried anything that generates heat.
July 24, 2015
I wish you luck. I would be worried about anything that generates heat. I did not know that peels could do that too. Sorry too many typos.
August 3, 2015
I had the V-Beam with cool touch done and I had similar like effects as Ttegdapnej. I notice though that after showering my skin looks better but then reverts back.
August 3, 2015
Believe it or not, mine does that too, even though my damage seems more severe. I have seen your pictures. I do believe time Is gonna help you.
October 1, 2015
Going to an MD is no guarantee. Read my Review of IPL. I had a plastic surgeon do mine personally, and it was a horror show. My skin has never been the same. One IPL tx seems to have set off some degenerative inflammatory process that doesn't ever stop. Sometimes it looks a little better, sometimes worse. I think that bottom line, the technology is not ready for widespread use yet, and/or people, even MDs, get too casual about it. I've read medical books stating that The "therapeutic window" in IPL is extremely narrow - this means that you could have the perfect setting, but with just a hair's difference in anyone variable - pulse, temperature, or wave length, and bam, you get burns, atrophic scarring, etc. It's very tricky, but people act like it's goof-proof. With mine, I got 2 passes in the same tx, one for redness, and one for pigment. I remember it feeling uncomfortably hot and painful, and I remember the doctor, when adjusting the setting at the beginning, say, Hmm, you're very fair, then she adjusted a setting and off she went, zapping my face. I think she eyeballed my skin type and misjudged that I was a lighter Fitzpatrick type than I really am, since I only look fair because I am religious about ss use, her settings were not quite cool enough, and she never should've done 2 passes in one sitting. If I only knew then what I know now. It was presented to me as "no risk," "no down time lunch-time procedure" with no side effects other than slight pinkness for a day. HA!!!! WHAT LIES.
October 1, 2015
THIS
July 24, 2015
Lots grr
July 29, 2015
I am sickened by your horrible after effects of this ---I will keep you in my prayers. A ton of thanks to you for alerting those of us who may have considered this treatment. God bless you always.
July 30, 2015
Thanks. Everyday is a serious struggle.
August 4, 2015
I can only imagine---my heart is so heavy for you. I just want to cry with you. You have done such a courageous thing, to inform us and warn us, of this treatment. Please let us know if you find any remedy . God bless!
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August 4, 2015
I'm so sorry. Bless you for telling your story, it's really helped me make the decision. I went to a dermatologist last month for what I thought might be the beginning of rosacea. The doctor told me it's telangiectasia. I have it all over my face except for my forehead. It's not really bad at this point. I just don't want it to get worse. She advised IPL. Knowing what I know now from your experience and others I've read on the internet, I've decided not to go that route. In doing research I've found so many singing praises of the procedure, showing before and after pictures, advising it always be done by someone skilled. But at the heart of it, it doesn't mean even the most degreed and certified practitioner can make mistakes, and equipment can malfunction. From this point on, the only hands treating my skin are my own. I keep you in my prayers. Big hug.
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August 4, 2015
Typo... I meant to say, "can't make mistakes."
August 4, 2015
Glad I could save at least one person from this.
You are beautiful the way you are so why put yourself through this. Just use gentle creams.
October 5, 2015
I have been damaged by BBL treatment to face all the same as Ttegdapnenj but I have treatment head marks in my face as well don by Plastic surgeon in Sydney Australia and she wont even help me at all just says BBL did not cause this
October 5, 2015
They all say the same thing when it comes to lasers. They either blame it on ageing, rosacea, or they pretend they don't see any damage. When the reality is lasers do cause fat loss, they do cause hyperpigmentation, hypopigmentation, texture changes that include wrinkling, scarring, uneven skin tone, etc....I'm almost two years into my damage and I regret getting v-beam done every single day. I should have been happy with the face I had and now I'm left to deal with this on my own.
October 5, 2015
I have also given a bad review for this doctor on this site but it isn't shown on her review section they are deleting the bad reviews so others cannot be warned this would be against some law surely
October 5, 2015
My bad review of my doctor is still up. I would try again.
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October 5, 2015

Hi Deedle,

Your review is not deleted; it's posted here: https://www.realself.com/review/potts-point-sydney-ipl-remove-brown-spots

Your review is also listed on the doctor's profile page.

All opinions, whether positive or negative, are welcome on RealSelf. We don't remove anything unless it violates the Community Guidelines.

I hope this helps to address your concerns. Please let me know if you have any questions.