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do your research before you allow implant in your nose **very unnatural - New York, NY

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I am 5 weeks after septo-rhinoplasty. No words can...

nycgal13
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I am 5 weeks after septo-rhinoplasty. No words can describe the regrets I have for going under the knife as it was so very unnecessary. I should have done more homework and not have taken this procedure lightly. I have always been called pretty (and hilarious girl) even though I have what most western (insert "white/caucasian") doctors would call a bulbous, round nose but somehow it just seemed to fit my face well. I just thought I would be cuter with a slightly slimmer nose (thank you media brainwashing), so for a few years, I always fantasized about what my nose would look like smaller and was always browsing "ethnic rhinoplasty" websites but always chickened out until....I met this new girlfriend whom underwent rhinoplasty before (her results are ah-mah-zing) and swore it changed her life and she was so very happy.
So she gave me the name of her ps, I went on the website and thought all the pics were awful and told her that and we had joked that she initially thought the same but when she went to his office so more pics in his pics book and they were better so here I am $150 later for a consultation I go in and look at the book and yes the pics were better.
October 2012
Doc comes in and here is our convo:
Me: " I think I am really pretty but I believe I would be even prettier if my nose was slightly smaller" (Seriously, I rated myself an 8 out of 10...lol)
Dr S: " Yes, most african american patients who come for a consultation come for the same reasons: low bridge, wide nostrils, and no definition in the tip"
Then he takes a few pics, steps out and comes back with the "computer imaging" when he shows me I tell him " I don't like the pointy nose and I am fine with my round profile", he replies "I cant refine the tip if I leave the roundness".
In his opinion, I need his "cookie cutter" african american 3 tiered approach:
1. a custom tailored SLUPimplantâ„¢
2. tip refinement
3. nasal narrowing
I take the pics and share with my bf who urges me not to go through it that I am just fine the way God created me....I left it alone until one year later...Broke up with my bf, feeling really low and decide to do smtg for myself so I go back in for a second consultation which was free this time and same as first consultation I was unprepared and had no specific clue of exactly what I wanted except that I wanted a slighly slimmer nose... and smtg very subtle so that noone notices I had surgery....ha! (I should have spent time asking myself questions like do I really want an implant or not?, do I really want the tip of my nose to be altered? These questions didn't really cross my mind...LADIES DO YOUR RESEARCH))
So I decide to go ahead with the three-tiered cookie cutter approach as proposed by "expert plastic surgeon"....
Surgery scheduled for Oct 2013 (I have a week off from work and tell myself it is now or never).
I go in and when I am in operating room my blood pressure is dangerously high (177 over 114), doctor comes in and says "I am going to give you something and if it remains high, we have to reschedule the surgery" - this should have been a sign for me to get my behind up and say " SAYONARA!" - Yes, he did give me smtg but guess what I didn't wake up until... AFTER the surgery was done to hear that I needed to go to "doctor ASAP bc my blood pressure was dangerously high"....hmmm, what happened to rescheduling the surgery as you mentioned, doc?....I guess he wanted to get it over with but I basically could have had a stroke, a brain aneurysm and after having received my post-op report I was confirmed that surgery should not have been performed...This incident is now being reported to the Board for medical negligence.
Fast forward, 7 days, the cast is removed and to my dismay, I look like a totally different person, what happened to my subtle change request?!! I had shown him some pictures of nose job he performed on other patients and he replied that my nose was different...ok my request was subtle change!!
I am told "it is the swelling, it will go down"
Except that I go home and cry at the reflection in the mirror, I do not recognize myself, I look like a mix of Michael Jackson, the Joker, Miss Piggy, a raccoon and so on. I definitely do not look like Halle Berry, Alicia Keys, Beyonce and by that I mean their results...VERY NATURAL LOOKING!
My mom saw me and started crying because my once cute face was just ruined ...I keep looking in the mirror to find out what went wrong....The oh-so-famous "custom tailored SLUPimplantâ„¢"....It made me look like a roman statue, if I had asked for an aquiline (please look up this word if you don't know the meaning and look at the pics) look I would be fine but no, no, no I didn't ask you that unnatural look Dr S.
10 days after surgery, I schedule another appointment to express my concern and Dr S. tells me that it looks just like in the pictures....Yeah right! The implant absolutely did NOT look like in the pictures, it was placed WAYYY TOO HIGH (as confirmed by 3 other ps)....It changed my entire facial features in the worst way possible, my face is no longer proportionate, face is now long, eyes are sunken in, straight naso frontal angle, no curve between eyebrow and rest of nose, bridge actually looks weird from the semiprofile almost obstructing my eyes....JUST PLAIN AWFUL LOOKING
I am told to wait at least 4 months before removal.
4 months being super miserable, I just couldn't wait, I have never felt so depressed in my life ever...4 months..no way, I decide to text him pretty frequently because I was so desperate....I guess he got fed up of my texting and agreed to remove implant and he dares tell me "I will charge you again if you want to put the implant back in". When I tell him how unnatural it looks and that it basically was ethnically inconsistent with my features, his reply " its a matter of perspective and preference".
I posted a pic for everyone to see - the after implant is MORE NATURAL!
3 WEEKS after surgery, I go in for the implant to be removed....What a relief! I don't exactly look like my old self (bc of tip work) but at least I can stand looking at my own reflection in the mirror.
The lesson I learned " Do not mess with what nature gave you unless you really have to" (i.e. you are super ugly in your own eyes, you have nasal functional issues)
I know it is a long post but I felt I needed to share my experience.
Before I end this update, a few tips for those who seek ethnic rhinoplasty:
Ask yourself - what is your goal?
- raise bridge
- smaller nostrils
- refined tip
If you choose to raise your bridge, there are different ways, either from your own tissue (grafts) or with (artificial) implants:
Grafts include:
Septum
Ear cartilage
Rib cartilage
Hip carilage or bone
Skull bone
Implants include:
Silicone
Porous polyethylene
Polypropylene
PTFE (Gortex)
Please know that there are differing doctor opinions when it comes to raising your bridge using SILICONE or SILASTIC IMPLANT as used by this doctor.
Do your research and be aware of the infections and extrusion rates and possibly the revision rhinoplasty you will have to go thru if infected because you have a foreign material in your nose. The use of the implant means faster operation time for the doctor but very often unnatural results for you as a patient..Think about the long term of having a foreign thing in your nose which the body doesn't accept and keep trying rejecting by forming a capsule around it...DO YOUR RESEARCH.
As I am only 5 weeks after rhino, and 2 weeks after implant removal, my nose has to heal ...I will update you on the rest of this ordeal. Keep me in your prayers for a smoother recovery.

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Oleh Slupchynskyj, MD, FACS (retired)

Oleh Slupchynskyj, MD, FACS (retired)

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November 12, 2013

Thank you for sharing your experience on RealSelf! I hope you get support from others in the rhinoplasty community.

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November 14, 2013
Sorry to hear about you bad experience. I thought maybe it was just me, but like you said, for someone who appears to be such a renowned surgeon the work on his website (at least the African American rhinoplasties) looked terrible. BUT, being perfectly honest, I think your nose looks cute in both pictures. Honestly, the implant doesn't appear to look unnatural and you definitely didn't have that pinched, pipe-nose look like his other patients. Glad that you're feeling better about the end result, though. SN...your eyebrows are ON POINT, lol! Wishing you well in your recovery...
November 14, 2013
Hey Narie, thanks for the note. I see that you are going for your surgery soon. I will keep in touch and follow your journey. It feels so good to share experience with people going thru same thing. Thanks for the eyebrows, I only let 2 people shape them....LOL
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December 1, 2013
This is such a emotional roller coaster, personally I think your nose is beautiful both ways . Hope to get results as those or close. I have a wide nose IMO & it needs definition or implantation 2/3 down to the base to give that , bridge effect. I also want my nostrils bought in. Did you have your nasal bones bought in? And any humps shaved down? And we're you bruised a lot after surgery? When could you go outside ?
December 9, 2013
Hey ABeautifulMe, yes my nasal bones were brought in at about 1mm from what the surgeon told me. I actually didnt bruise after the surgery, I eat super healthy and took Arnica pills plus 2,000mg of Vit C for about 1 week before surgery and 2 weeks after surgery. I had no hump shaved down at all. I actually went outside with the cast and all because I didnt care...lol
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November 14, 2013
I know it's hard to see yourself looking different. I just had surgery. 3 days again and my stomach drops every time I see my face! I really feel I'm giving micheal Janet Latoya flavor dear God help me!!!! BUT UR NOSE LOOKS GREAT. Looks natural- n both pics! And it only gets better from here! I have a client that got hers done and said u DEFINITELY don't see results until at LEAST 5 mos out
November 14, 2013
Girl, I hear you, noone had prepared me for the fact that emotionally and mentally, it is VERY hard to look at yourself and not recognize yourself, it is like you lost a part of you in the process. I'm so happy I'm able to afford a therapist who helps me deal with this emotional aspect of facial plastic surgery. How log ago did you get your surgery? What look were you going for?
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November 14, 2013
I had it Monday and am sick to my stomach!!!! I was going for minor change. Don't feel that's what I got. I don't recognize myself and I want to cry! But I know it's the combo of my nose and face swelling that makes me want to throw up
November 14, 2013
I know the feeling but when you only look at your new nose, do you like it? If you do, it will only get better and eventually you will get used to your "new face". Every time I look at myself in the mirror I wonder who is this stranger but I am now 5 weeks post op and slowly I am getting used to the new me....it is a long journey. Happy to find others like you who are going thru the same process.
November 23, 2013
I really want to do my nose..I did my eyes about 1 yr ago, had the bags removed, and It was very traumatic for me... It seems like my nose is much bigger and wider since I did my eyes... I am afraid of having a scar and an uneven nose or just looking very different.. I just want a smaller nose..If you are taking about that Dr. S in NY, Girl I know that's one doctor I wouldn't go to I Hate his pictures and don't know how he feels confident with showing those before and after pictures 80% of them are just hideous.. I live in NY and the only the doctor I trust is Dr. Ghavami, but he is in LA and very concerned about the follow-up if I have to travel that far and I don't know anyone in LA..
November 23, 2013
Hey there, I just saw your post about your eyes, do you feel better about the procedure now, did the scars go away ? I feel that any change on the face makes you look different, now it is a matter of how bad you are willing to change something on your face. Dr S in NYC actually did my friend nose and she looks AMAZING, I think his website actually doesn't have good pics compared to the one I saw in his office which were 10 times better. I think Dr ghavami work is too extreme, in the sense that nose doesn't look "ethnic" anymore in my opinion.
November 30, 2013
Yes I must say I have learned to live with it... I made that decision so I have to live with it..The scars are fading but still noticeable to me, no one has ever commented on them but I see them eveytime I look in the mirror... I have very very dry eyes bis because my lids doesn't closed completely, but my eyes looks better in person and pictures... I use eye drops 4 times a day and now that this is my new way of living... This is why I am so skeptical about doing my nose... I don't want any implant or tip refinement just want it to look a smaller because after my eye surgery my nose doubled in size, lol.., thank you so much for sharing your story and would like to thank everyone on here who shares their story because it really helps.
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November 29, 2013
So sorry to hear about your experience. I will keep you in prayers. I am still looking for a surgeon but my first consultation was with Dr. S. He sells himself to be an expert on african american rhino, but I agree with you. He has a three tier approach. He automatically suggested a reduction of hump, a raised bridge, reducing width and refining the tip. The weird thing is that when I got home I compared the before and after pictures and the bridge is the same. It wasn't even raised, only the hump was removed. I began to wonder if I really needed it raised. I like my nose I just need the hump removed but it appears that once I do that I have to do other things to balance it out. I questioned the infamous implant and decided not to go with him because it just didnt feel right. He quoted me $9, 500 as well. I kept wanting to believe he was the one for me. Thanks so much for clearing up my feelings about it.
November 29, 2013
So happy I could help you out :) When are you looking into getting your surgery done? Which other doctors have you consulted with ?
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November 30, 2013
Well I planned to have it in January or late February. Time is ticking and I'm not going to rush it until I'm comfortable. I've had consultation with Dr. S of course, Dr. Eric Joseph in NJ, and Dr. Epstein from Miami so far. I've got some more to go.
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November 30, 2013
How was your consultation with Dr Epstein? I have been eyeing him and believing he is the surgeon need?
November 30, 2013
Please please keep us informed when you find your surgeon..
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December 1, 2013
Hey, well I had just missed his visit to ny. So, I provided pics to him and he made his suggestion (no mention of any implants needed, which is good). He and his team have been answering all questions via email and I am supossed to meet with him when he comes to ny again in December for a full consultation.
December 1, 2013
Looking4rightone, which PS are you talking about!
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December 2, 2013
Uglyscars, Someone asked me abouy dr. Epstein from miami. Thats who I was referring to.
December 10, 2013
Maybe you can also check out Dr. Kofi Boahene at http://www.drboahene.com/Pages/africanamericannose.aspx
May 1, 2015
I don't think you should be dismissing everyone from this Dr because maybe you didn't need a bridge augmentation in the first place since it was already high enough. I think the bridge augmentation/ implant would suit someone with a genuinely flat nose
UPDATED FROM nycgal13
4 months post

4 months post-op and actually happy with my results so far

nycgal13
It has now been 4 months since my surgery and although I was very unhappy in the first month because of the whole high radix and having to go through implant removal ordeal.

I must now say admit that my nose is turning out to be really really cute, very natural looking and I get men approaching me at least a few times a day to compliment me on my "beauty". (Beauty is such a subjective concept - hence the quote marks). I'm also told, I look like a doll at times...lol...(Make up is my best friend ever and I swear to never argue with her!!)

So this being said, if I were to do this over, I would prepare myself emotionally and mentally because I just wasn't ready for the emotional changes it takes you through. To look at your face and see a different person can take a toll on you especially if you dislike the new you. Luckily, I realized very quickly that the implant was not a great fit for my face and was able to have it removed almost immediately. My nose is still healing but I can honestly say that the tip work done looks great and I'm getting used to my new nose...without the implant!

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February 10, 2014
Great, congratulations on liking your new nose!
February 10, 2014
I'm happy for you. Yeah, Dr. S does good tip work. But, the implants are not for everyone. Please post a pic.
March 1, 2015
@Nu Attitude: Hi. I asked a question in your own review. May I send you a message in your inbox instead?
April 30, 2014
sigh ... you are gorgeous (and write so well, I read this whole thing in under 5 minutes!) :) I appreciate the honesty and all of the information as I have an ethnic nose as well and nyc just doesn't seem to have enough ps to do this :(
May 5, 2014
Hey mimixoxo, yes I encourage you to do your research really well before embarking on this journey! Good luck
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May 5, 2014
Love ur Review!! I also want a nose job badly & I'm going to have one. At first I was jus thinking to myself dat I wanted a slimmer more straighter nose but after reading ur review about knowing exactly wat I u want. I have to do further research now. I know I definitely DO NOT WANT IMPLANTS. U gave me excellent information but now I'm confused. I will read ur review again & do homework. Thanks :-)
June 9, 2014
your constant blaming of other people for YOU mistake is annoying, if you felt so pretty then why get a nose job lol. Grow up and take responsibility for YOUR CHOICES!!
UPDATED FROM nycgal13
1 year post

2 years after ...results

nycgal13
I never really uploaded pictures but since I received a few DM about implant and removal, I thought I would update this with my results 2 years post surgery and removal of implants.
Again, let me quickly state the facts, I went in for surgery not truly knowing what I wanted except that I wanted my nose to look cuter than what it was...I didn't do as much research as I should have (I know who does that?!)...anyways, an implant was inserted which I hated because i felt that it was very un-natural looking and made me look like a roman statue and it just didn't look good on me in my eyes so a week after surgery, I insisted to go back in and remove the implant despite being told that my look would pretty much go back to my original nose and honestly I was okay with that more Han the roman statue look.
After implant removal, my nose did look like my original nose with the exception than the nostrils were slightly reduced and tip not as round from profile view as it was.
My nose did heal well after the removal and yes I had the implant in my nose only for about a week. All in all, I'm very happy I had the implant removed. If I had to do this whole thing over, I would have maybe first try to resolve my self-esteem issues by seeing a therapist, I would have researched this way more and be VERY specific into what I wanted so I cannot blame the doctor for the results because I do think I wasn't specific enough into what I wanted so I take the blame for my results.
Thank god, 2 years went on and this whole ordeal is behind me.
Hope this testimony helps you.
Xoxo

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October 1, 2015
Thanks for sharing your story. Im glad you are finally happy with your results
October 1, 2015
Thanks girl :-)
October 1, 2015
Thank you so much for responding . I had my implant one week after also. I'm currently 2.5 month post removal and I'm still swollen , my nose fluctuates in size. I noticed you mentioned at 4 months you were still healing. How many months would you say it took for your nose to settle ? And for you to feel it was no longer "healing " ? Much love
October 1, 2015
I would say around the 6 months mark, swelling subsided, about a year post removal, I felt that this had all settled.

Are you happy with your imant removed? Do you like your nose now?
October 3, 2015
I'm happy I removed the implant . My nose is still healing and still fluctuates in swelling . Guess I'll just have to wait and see how it is at the 6 month mark. Hopefully by then it will be looking and feeling better. Your nose looks great !!
October 6, 2015
So today , your nose doesn't swell up anymore at all ?

Thank you for replying to me , much love xx
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November 1, 2015
How was the process to remove the implant? Are the patient awake during the process? Thank you ladies for the information that you shared.
November 1, 2015
I was awake with local anaesthetic and it was a 10 minute job
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November 12, 2015
Thank you so much for the info!! Again you look great
May 18, 2016
do you have any pics of the before& after?... I'm thinking about removing my Dr.S implant, but don't want my nose (tip) to revert back (flat & droppy)
May 18, 2016
If you remove your implant your nose will revert back to what it was, it may also not be as defined as originally due to the possibility of scar tissue. I would say after my implant removal and now being almost a year later, my nose is about 90-95% back to what it was originally.
October 1, 2015
If you could do it over again, would you still have chosen Dr. Slupchynskyj? I feel like his poor surgery outcomes outweigh his successes.
October 1, 2015
Honestly I'm on the fence. On the other hand, I think he's very talented, one of my friend nose he did looks AMAZING! I think I would have just had my nostrils touched up to flare less but I wouldn't have the tip or anything else done. So just to get nostrils smaller, yes I would have probably gone to him again. Just for that. For a full rhinoplasty, NOPE because a handful of ladies who he worked on reached out to me and either had a revision or the implant taken out.
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October 4, 2015
Thank you for sharing your story. It really gave me an idea as to what to tell my PS tomorrow. I have rhinoplasty scheduled and super nervous but not with the Slup doctor and definitely won't be getting implants. You look soooo pretty!!
October 5, 2015
Hey girl, thanks for the compliment. can't wait to hear about your journey!
October 7, 2015
I think you're really beautiful. I'm glad you feel better now. :)