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Chronic Under Eye "Swell Bags" Due to Lymphatic Drainage Problem , Triggered by Restylane Injection

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I am a 50 year old female and I had restylane...

annibal
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I am a 50 year old female and I had restylane injections done in my tear troughs two years ago. They looked good but had these unusual bumps or ridges in the malar area underneath. I had the filler reduced with an enzyme a week later but still had a bump on the left side. Then last April I had a blepharoplasty and while the surgery looks good, the ridges came back full force under both eyes and it seems to have take on the shape of the swelling from the original restylane disaster.

Anyway, I went to an ocular plastic surgeon and he said that is was a lymphatic drainage problem and if it hasn't gone away by now then it never will. It's been 7 months since surgery and has improved somewhat but still there. He said the only thing to do to treat it was a steroid injection but has a low success rate and would look worse for a few weeks since it would initially add to the fullness.

Also,he said if I have other surgeries like a face lift (which I'll eventually want), that it could exacerbate the problem and I'd swell up there moreso again.

Restylane fills nasolabial folds really well but I don't recoommend putting it under your eyes !! I had deep dark tear troughs. Now I was told I have clogged lymphatics under my eyes which result in these swell pads under my eyes just below the eye hollows at the malar membrane.

Has anyone had this problem ? Should I do the steroid injection (not Kenalog but a short acting steroid)? What about lympatic drainage massage ?

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December 8, 2009
Quick question - do you have botox as well? Specifically, do you have botox in the crows feet areas and/or infraorbital botox (ie directly under the lower eye lashes)? If you do use botox, in the past two years since the Restylane disaster, how many times have you had botox and where was it injected?
December 8, 2009
I have had botox in the forehead area , not around the eyes. I have read that botox around the eyes could make the drainage slow down since it paralyzes the muscle and there's no movement. Should I hold off on all forehead botox for a while ?
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December 9, 2009
I am thinking yes you should. Have a look at Chloerose's review "Jabba the Hut puffiness after botox in glabella region". She also only had botox in the forehead (not around eyes or in crows feet area) and yet ended up with big puffy eye bags. Maybe you should consider no botox for a while and see if it improves? Let us know how it goes. Best of luck.
June 3, 2013
Has anyone had any success? I've been going through this nightmare for 9 plus months. I also have swelling which varies day by day. I never thought a "temporary" filler you can get at a med spa could cause such facial disfigurement.
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January 1, 2010
Is the swelling actually in your lower lids (ie looks like puffy eye bags) or is it in the part below your lower eye lids at the top of your cheek? I am thinking of having a blepharoplasty. I also had restylane dissolved with hyaluronidase (disaster) and I don't want to have the same issues. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
January 1, 2010
Yes, the swelling is the area below the lids on the upper cheek known as the junction, or malar membrane. If your restylane was dissolved completely and not lumpy or leaving shriveled up skin then I'd say you are okay. Also, I had an aggressive surgery - I had the fat removed from inside the conjunctiva and also a pinch of skin removed (the stitches were between my lower lid lashes) Also had upper lid skin removed. I wonder if I would have had the swelling if I only did the upper lids and just fat removed on lowers. Talk to your surgeon about your concerns. Are you in the NYC area ? I know a good occuloplastic surgeon that is conservative and has tons of eyelid experience. Good luck.
March 29, 2010
Hi Annibal, I had the exact same problem as you after restylane injections- I had the injections 2 years ago and i still suffer from bags, which seem to be aggravated by edema. Yours is the first posting I've read which also talks of swelling which varies from one day to the next. It makes addressing the problem that much more difficult. Have you tried Hyaluronidase? - I have had it injected 6 times with little success. I have been thinking of a bleph - mainly to address the swelling - but your experience scares me. My doctor is suggesting I see an allergist, and discuss trying prentsezone for a week (though I have never had allergies before) Can you PLEASE tell me which occuloplastic surgeon you recommend? Also, feel free to contact me directly via email if you want to talk. I am located in NY as well. Debbie
March 30, 2010

Hi Debbie, That's interesting that the hyaluronidase didn't really work. I couldn't get anyone I trusted to do it for me. I did however figure out that is was "lympahtic stasis" and that in some people , restylane injections could clog the lymph area. The area between the eye and cheek is very tricky. it's been 2 years since I last used restylane there too. And when I had the blepheroplasty it got more swollen but has gone down some but not completely. I went to this great oculoplastic surgeon, Dr. Richard Lisman in NYC. He's the one who figured this out. It's hard to treat but I"m going to give it more time and then he said he could try to inject a small amount of a short acting steroid into the area. He said it could look worse for a while since you're adding fluid, but then in up to a month it would simmer down and help go down. It would not necessarily work, he told me, maybe a 25% chance of success but I figure that's better than nothing. As long as it doesn't make it worse which he said it shouldn't. So that's all I know. I've tried lymphatic drainage but didn't really do much . Maybe I didn't do enough sessions but at $150 a pop, it was getting expensive. Anyway, best of luck and let me know how you do. How do would I contact your email anyway ? You mentioned I could email you but I dont' think you'd want to post your email on the site. Sincerely Annibal

September 8, 2012
Hi,Im so exited to hear how you are doing now??
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January 3, 2010
Thanks for your reply. I live in Australia but I am willing to travel to get this sorted out correctly. I am looking for conservative, not aggressive surgery. Lower lids only. Could you please post some of the surgeons' names? Or send me a private email with their names? The last thing I could stand would be another disaster. Thanks so much.
January 12, 2010

Dear tried but failed, I could recommend one doctor that I think would be conservative and really great. His name is Dr. Richard Lisman. He is an oculoplastic surgeon so he does only eyes. I didn't use him but I certainly would trust him knowing what I know now. Even though I hadn't used him, he is the only one I feel comfortable recommending. I'm sure you'd be fine with any number of surgeons. And there has to be alot of really good surgeons in Australia. Shop around locally. It would be good to have someone near you do the surgery for followup. Ask around and see if there's someone whose surgery you think is great and get their doctors name. Best of luck. I do understand traveling for the best care. Hope it turns out really great for you. Truly Annibal

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April 1, 2010
Thanks Annibal!
April 2, 2010
Hi Annibal, Thanks SOOO much for your response. It sounds like Dr Lisman is on to something and I am going to most certainly reach out to him. Some questions for you: Did you get the bleph simply to treat the bumps caused by the Restylane? In other words, you had surgery to undo the complications caused by "temporary" filler? You said you had fat removed but if you had chronic fat bags under your eyes, why did you get fillers in the first place? Also, if residual Restylane is causing lympahtic stasis, why wouldn't Dr. Lisman recommend hyaluronidase injections to eliminate the remaining Restylane, as opposed to steroids? Also, does Dr. Lisman have experience with hyaluronidase and fillers?
April 7, 2010
Hi Debbie, I had the bleph for upper lid hooding and lower lid wrinkling and had fatty bumps removed that were close to the lash line. The residual bump I had was lower and I thought maybe by taking out a pinch of skin on the lower lids, it would smooth out that bump but it just kind of swelled in that area. I think it's more uniform - no real bump anymore but there was like a crest under my eyes that has dissipated some but not entirely. When I had the restylane bumps, I pushed them out which caused some crepiness on the right side by the nose but that was taken up by the surgery. I did the resylane for tear trough hollowness and darkness by my nose. The fatty tissue was at the lateral ends of my eyes and directly underneath. I think Dr. Lisman felt at this point there was no restylane there but that it clogged my lymphatic drainage vessels so I have some chronic lymphatic swelling. The steriod injection would help dissolve that if it works. He said it worked 25% of the time. I had heard of people having real issues with it - that especially with Kenalog, it can cause dents as the substance can eat away at healthy tissue and cause a crater. That's overkill. Dr. Lisman said he'd use a short acting steroid and just a bit of it . He didn't feel all that confident that it'd solve the problem but he did not feel it would make it worse as long as I cleared myself of sinus and allergy possibilities. So I'm going to wait it out, do some lymphatic drainage and drink lots of water. I'll revisit Dr. Lisman in maybe a year. Then it'd be 2 years post surgery. Hope this helps. Let me know what you find out. I hope your issue heals swiftly ! I know how disheartening this is. Truly Valerie
April 2, 2010
Also, did you have crepiness under your eyes, as well? And if so, did the bleph make your undereye area any worse or better?