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Chin Implant Ruined my Smile. New Jersey, NJ
ORIGINAL POST
My original motivation for getting plastic surgery...
DitterboMarch 28, 2015
My original motivation for getting plastic surgery was to reshape my nose, but in the process of vetting doctors, I learned that my chin was also very recessed and would supposedly benefit greatly from a chin implant. After picking a nose revisionist doctor and undergoing surgery, I learned he used a large silicone terino extended anatomical implant, secured with 1 center screw. I had suspicions that the implant was malpositioned the day after surgery because of a slanted white line that appeared above my chin, as well as the one-sided hardness in that part of my face.
On my 1 and 2 week post op appointments, my doctor could not tell for sure if the hard lump that had formed shortly thereafter, half way up between my chin and smile line, was the implant wing or just swelling. As the first few weeks to 1.5 months went by, the whole left side of my face was super swollen compared to the right, peaking around my left jowl/smile line area. A visit to another doctor about 7 weeks post op confirmed the implant wing was shifted way up about an inch from the left corner of my lip.
Even more concerning to me was that this entire time, my bottom lower lip was severely 'tethered' up to where I couldn't smile, or move my lower lips much when talking. I was regularly emailing my doctor pictures showing the swelling in my left cheek, and finally visited him again 3 months post op. The swelling in my cheek was much improved but still present by then, and my lower lip STILL tethered. About 4 months post op, I can still only show about 3/4 of my lower teeth when I try to lower my lower lip. My lip essentially has improved over the first 2 months and has shown no progress since. This has severely impacted my smile, and I'm so self conscious of it. If I smile too widely, the middle of my lower lip stays tethered up, causing a very unnatural affect. I've read so many reviews on this board and elsewhere and totally expected my lower lip to return to normal 6-9 weeks post op, or by 3 months at the very latest. I have visited 4 plastic surgeons, an ENT, and an oral surgeon and no one knows why my lower lip is acting this way. I suffered no numbness at all post op, and over the 6-9 week period my lower lip movement did improve, but its function is only about 60% back to what it used to be. As much as I like the affect the implant gives to my chin, I dislike the bulge in my left cheek still present 4 months post op from the malpositioned wing and hate how my smile has changed. My theory is that if i remove the implant without replacement, and my lip movement returns shortly thereafter, then I know that my muscles could not stretch enough to compensate for the added chin volume. If my lower lip is still tethered up several weeks after removal, then my muscles were fine and a nerve was simply damaged during the original surgery. If it is a nerve causing my middle lower lip to tether, then I will know, in hindsight (post implant removal), that my lower lip function would have returned if I gave it several more months time to heal. In which case, I may consider a smaller implant in the future. I've seriously considered removing the implant and doing a sliding genioplasty, but the oral surgeon has scared me away with the countless possible complications, and of course no guarantees with my lower lip function.
My original doctor said he can only remove the implant, not replace it, and that it would cost me 2k in anesthesia and OR fees (dr fee waived, but that's still a lot of money). Unfortunately, I also learned from an ENT that I have a moderate amount of scar tissue in my nose that's been affecting my breathing since surgery, and I'll need to be put to sleep to have them cut out (I get faintish if I have needles, etc. flying around my face, so there's no way I would get through this procedure with only local anesthesia). My original surgeon possibly contributed to this scar tissue problem by not cleaning my nose out at all post rhinoseptoplasty, so I can't expect him to treat this issue as it requires multiple cleanings post op. Insurance will also cover this scar tissue complication, so I am diligently searching for an ENT/PS combo type doctor that is in network in the DC area who can do both procedures at the same time - remove the chin implant and cut out the scar tissue in my nose. But this is not easy to find by any means!
I've written this review because I am at my wits end with this chin implant, and I am hoping someone out in this community sees my review and can lend me some advice or share their experience if they've encountered a similar problem like mine. In googling this problem online, I can't find another case where just the middle of the lower lip doesn't retract down with the rest of the lip. Thanks for reading, and I'll reply back / post updates.
On my 1 and 2 week post op appointments, my doctor could not tell for sure if the hard lump that had formed shortly thereafter, half way up between my chin and smile line, was the implant wing or just swelling. As the first few weeks to 1.5 months went by, the whole left side of my face was super swollen compared to the right, peaking around my left jowl/smile line area. A visit to another doctor about 7 weeks post op confirmed the implant wing was shifted way up about an inch from the left corner of my lip.
Even more concerning to me was that this entire time, my bottom lower lip was severely 'tethered' up to where I couldn't smile, or move my lower lips much when talking. I was regularly emailing my doctor pictures showing the swelling in my left cheek, and finally visited him again 3 months post op. The swelling in my cheek was much improved but still present by then, and my lower lip STILL tethered. About 4 months post op, I can still only show about 3/4 of my lower teeth when I try to lower my lower lip. My lip essentially has improved over the first 2 months and has shown no progress since. This has severely impacted my smile, and I'm so self conscious of it. If I smile too widely, the middle of my lower lip stays tethered up, causing a very unnatural affect. I've read so many reviews on this board and elsewhere and totally expected my lower lip to return to normal 6-9 weeks post op, or by 3 months at the very latest. I have visited 4 plastic surgeons, an ENT, and an oral surgeon and no one knows why my lower lip is acting this way. I suffered no numbness at all post op, and over the 6-9 week period my lower lip movement did improve, but its function is only about 60% back to what it used to be. As much as I like the affect the implant gives to my chin, I dislike the bulge in my left cheek still present 4 months post op from the malpositioned wing and hate how my smile has changed. My theory is that if i remove the implant without replacement, and my lip movement returns shortly thereafter, then I know that my muscles could not stretch enough to compensate for the added chin volume. If my lower lip is still tethered up several weeks after removal, then my muscles were fine and a nerve was simply damaged during the original surgery. If it is a nerve causing my middle lower lip to tether, then I will know, in hindsight (post implant removal), that my lower lip function would have returned if I gave it several more months time to heal. In which case, I may consider a smaller implant in the future. I've seriously considered removing the implant and doing a sliding genioplasty, but the oral surgeon has scared me away with the countless possible complications, and of course no guarantees with my lower lip function.
My original doctor said he can only remove the implant, not replace it, and that it would cost me 2k in anesthesia and OR fees (dr fee waived, but that's still a lot of money). Unfortunately, I also learned from an ENT that I have a moderate amount of scar tissue in my nose that's been affecting my breathing since surgery, and I'll need to be put to sleep to have them cut out (I get faintish if I have needles, etc. flying around my face, so there's no way I would get through this procedure with only local anesthesia). My original surgeon possibly contributed to this scar tissue problem by not cleaning my nose out at all post rhinoseptoplasty, so I can't expect him to treat this issue as it requires multiple cleanings post op. Insurance will also cover this scar tissue complication, so I am diligently searching for an ENT/PS combo type doctor that is in network in the DC area who can do both procedures at the same time - remove the chin implant and cut out the scar tissue in my nose. But this is not easy to find by any means!
I've written this review because I am at my wits end with this chin implant, and I am hoping someone out in this community sees my review and can lend me some advice or share their experience if they've encountered a similar problem like mine. In googling this problem online, I can't find another case where just the middle of the lower lip doesn't retract down with the rest of the lip. Thanks for reading, and I'll reply back / post updates.
UPDATED FROM Ditterbo
4 months post
Implant was placed via submental incision...
DitterboApril 1, 2015
I left out an important detail that's particularly relevant when it comes to this kind of complication.. the implant was not placed intraorally. It was placed through an incision under my chin, and my current understanding is that the implant isn't sitting too high.
I have a new theory on why my smile is uneven/crooked. The two wings of the implant are each creating their own augmentation to the soft tissue. The left side seems to be tucked correctly between the bone and soft tissue, effectively pushing the soft tissue slightly forward the way a chin implant normally would. The right side, with the malpositioned wing, is probably sitting ABOVE most of the soft tissue - the entire length of the wing is pretty palpable, and I get a persistent but barely noticeable pain along the wingspan. Part of my left cheek where the implant wing rides high seems 'sucked in', which further fuels my theory that the wing is above the soft tissue; compressing the tissue instead of lifting it slightly off the bone the way the right wing does. Therefore, the function of my lower lip is slightly different depending on which half your looking at.
Also, I'm wondering if the shape of the large Terino extended anatomical implant is causing my center lower lip to flatten out when stretched down. The dimensions posted on the Implantech site shows it has an upside-down U shape in the center of the implant. This differs from the regular extended anatomical, which has a pretty straight, rectangular shape across the central piece. The 'peak' in the center of the Terino extended implant may be why my center lower lip seems more pushed up than the rest of my lip when I smile.
Maybe I'll bounce this theory off of another PS? If this theory holds true, then a medium sized extended anatomical (non-torino) should be a fair compromise between outright removal of the implant and keeping some chin augmentation. I would likely get my smile back - or at least one that is not crooked!
I have a new theory on why my smile is uneven/crooked. The two wings of the implant are each creating their own augmentation to the soft tissue. The left side seems to be tucked correctly between the bone and soft tissue, effectively pushing the soft tissue slightly forward the way a chin implant normally would. The right side, with the malpositioned wing, is probably sitting ABOVE most of the soft tissue - the entire length of the wing is pretty palpable, and I get a persistent but barely noticeable pain along the wingspan. Part of my left cheek where the implant wing rides high seems 'sucked in', which further fuels my theory that the wing is above the soft tissue; compressing the tissue instead of lifting it slightly off the bone the way the right wing does. Therefore, the function of my lower lip is slightly different depending on which half your looking at.
Also, I'm wondering if the shape of the large Terino extended anatomical implant is causing my center lower lip to flatten out when stretched down. The dimensions posted on the Implantech site shows it has an upside-down U shape in the center of the implant. This differs from the regular extended anatomical, which has a pretty straight, rectangular shape across the central piece. The 'peak' in the center of the Terino extended implant may be why my center lower lip seems more pushed up than the rest of my lip when I smile.
Maybe I'll bounce this theory off of another PS? If this theory holds true, then a medium sized extended anatomical (non-torino) should be a fair compromise between outright removal of the implant and keeping some chin augmentation. I would likely get my smile back - or at least one that is not crooked!
Replies (9)
April 1, 2015
I confused which side of the implant is malpositioned above. The LEFT side has the wing riding high and out of place. The RIGHT side seems normal.
April 23, 2015
You may have some bone asymmetry so the chin implant doesn´t sit against the bone on the right side. Have you thought about a genioplasty?
April 23, 2015
There is some bone asymmetry.. so you're saying the wings, even if they are tucked under the tissue on each side, may still push out the tissue asymmetrically? I did speak to one PS who mentioned shaving down a side of my chin that is asymmetric while replacing the implant. I haven't pursued him further at this point because he said his implant of choice is the implantech mittelman. That one is much bulkier than the extended anatomicals and lifts off a lot more soft tissue, which is unnecessary for just wanting lateral projection.
A genioplasty has a lot more risk, as I understand from an oral surgeon I consulted with, and is much harder to reverse in general, especially if you wait between surgeries. Those are the biggest reasons by far I am not considering a genioplasty. I have no medical basis to be correcting my jaw so I don't see the need to take on the added risk profile to correct what is a cosmetic defect. I'm still reeling from my rhinoseptoplasty that left me looking 10 years older and worse breathing than before.
April 27, 2015
Yes. The implant sits on the bone. If the bone is "bigger" on one side, and the chin implant wing on this side has not been shaved down a little to compensate this, you will see an asymmetry.
I hope you understand what I mean, english is not my 1st language.
April 28, 2015
I'm not so concerned about my slight chin assymetry as I am with how my smile is being affected by the implant. If there is assymetry preop but my smile was not crooked, then one would think that correcting the assymetry through either bone rasping or implant shaving will produce assymetry in the way the soft tissue sits against the bone/implant. My thinking is, the soft tissue has developed with the jaw/chin and their assymmetries, so correcting the assymetry in the chin/jaw contour will result in asymmetric soft tissue. Does that make sense?
May 17, 2015
I am a male, and I have the exact same issue. I do not like the left side of my chin implant and I believe that the left wing is not far enough under the periosteum (soft tissue). I can wiggle the left wing and feel the shape of the implant on the left side. The right side looks great and is in correct position. Im so sad, and just want the entire thing removed, but I'm really scared of complications following removal. I DID NOT need a chin implant. I was actually turned down by a couple plastic surgeons who told me I had a great chin, but I was convinced at the time that I needed a change to be happy. REGRET REGRET REGRET. I miss my old face and chin, and Im worried I did permanent damage to the soft tissue if I get it removed :'-(
May 18, 2015
Everything I've read said that if you had a silicon implant and no screws and it hasn't been in there long, then it's super easy to take out. I had mine taken out last week. You do have to wear a bandage on your face again for a bit to get compression so everything can heal. Just get it removed. I feel so much better now and can sleep easy. No more anxiety. I decided I didn't want to live the rest of my life with something foreign in my face. Just a thought.
May 19, 2015
How long was yours in and what size was it? I'm kind of having an adverse emotional reaction to having this foreign thing in my face.
May 19, 2015
Mine was only in for 2 weeks and some change. I had an Implantech XL! Yikes. It's been 8 days since I removed it and I'm so happy to just have my face back. Interestingly, I do have a little scar tissue, so I look like I have a tiny augmentation which is cool. I'm not sure if that will go away over time, with healing. I don't care either way. I just decided I just wanted my old face back and nothing in my face. Plus my skin was stretched so tight over the implant, it was all shiny, looked weird. If you want it out, just get it out and be done with it. Once I made the appt to get it removed, it was like I could finally relax. I just didn't want to spend all summer obsessing about it, so that's why I quickly changed. It was a dumb, rash decision that I made without truly doing the soul-searching I needed to do to make sure this is something I really want. Having something in your face, that's a big deal, I shouldn't have gotten it. Oh well, live and learn. It's out now :)
UPDATED FROM Ditterbo
6 months post
Considering Dr. Steven Davison... also, x-ray (for those medically inclined)
DitterboJune 5, 2015
I've gone for a second consultation with Dr. Steven Davison in DC about getting a revision surgery. I've visited at least 5 surgeons now (Dr. Chaboki, Dr. Somenek, Dr. Schoenfeld, Dr. French, and Dr. Bitar) in addition to Dr. Davison. The other doctors I'm not too comfortable with for one reason or another (anyone care to vouch for any of them?). I'm still on the fence with Dr. Davison as he is not dedicated to facial plastic surgery, does just 20 chin implants a year on average (common problem), and only had 1 before/after image to show me of past implant surgeries performed on males because "hardly any gave consent". Despite this, he made observations about this x-ray where other doctor's hardly glanced at it in comparison. The implant is not sitting against the chin bone, the screw is irritating the bone, and I am getting way more projection than the implant was meant to give (~.9mm instead of .6mm). It is sitting a smidge high, and is angled upward. He seemed confident about the revision (unlike one of the top docs listed here), and in correcting at least part of my smile problem, where the wing rides high and snags my cheek, pulling my lips back slightly with it. He is likely to replace it with a large conform extended anatomical, and secure it with just sutures and post op chin sling. He thinks the reduction in projection he is expecting of .3mm or so will help with my center lower lip being tethered up. This is a long shot, but does anyone have any experience with him, or think he may otherwise not be one of the better surgeons for this procedure? I kind of wanted Dr. Bitar but he refuses to revise chin implants or anything at all until a year has passed.
I also have a skype consultation coming up with Dr. Barry Eppley this weekend to discuss my issue here and maybe get his opinion on Dr. Davison.
I can't believe I've lost the better part of a year thanks to this chin and nose job. I've secluded myself from friends and am less effective at work. I really want this implant out or replaced ASAP.
I also have a skype consultation coming up with Dr. Barry Eppley this weekend to discuss my issue here and maybe get his opinion on Dr. Davison.
I can't believe I've lost the better part of a year thanks to this chin and nose job. I've secluded myself from friends and am less effective at work. I really want this implant out or replaced ASAP.
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February 19, 2019
I had Chin implant surgery in december, after 3 weeks i knew something wasn't right I felt this mild pain inside of my left cheek and my left side chin was incredibly stiff as the right side moved normally and naturally. I brought this up to the doctor I went to see him and he just said I've never inserted an implant wrong in my life he felt my face briefly and said you look beautiful it's fine go home. I said but I can feel it next to my molars when I put my finger in my mouth and on the other side not. He still tried to diminish my claim. I finally got him to at least say that if I can manage to find Imaging and prove that it is crooked will he please fix it and he he agreed to fix it but now I'm a little worried. I'm not going to give his name up just yet I would like to wait and see what happens. He is board-certified
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Thank you for sharing your story so far! I wonder if there's a happy medium between an implant and getting back to your old smile...