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Nearly Shut Eyelid

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I was injected with 15 units (supposedly less than...

Aurelie24
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I was injected with 15 units (supposedly less than the usual 20) to treat my frown lines, the vertical wrinkles on my forehead between my eyes. Five days later I woke up with severe eyelid droop over my right eye, and 7-10 days after the injections the eyelid was completely shut when I was relaxed. I could strain to keep it open to see, but only for about an hour or two at a time. When I did this my good eye opened much wider than usual and quickly dried out.

It is now Day 24 after the injections and Day 20 since the droop, and the droop is still very noticeable. I feel it physically all the time, and it is difficult to see. Not to mention that I look like a freak or just a very ugly woman. This is one lesson about vanity that I have learned very well.

On Thursday it will be three weeks of severe droop. I have noticed a very slight improvement, but I'm still unwilling to go out socially or look strangers in the eye. Throughout this time my vision has been compromised. The eyelid partially obscures my pupil, and the eye itself is not focusing correctly. The Botox affected an eye muscle as well as the levator, or eyelid, muscle.

I take comfort in the thought that the effects of the botox are not permanent (at least I hope) and that it is improving, however minimally, every day. But until then my life is pretty much on hold. I stay home. I cancelled my Match.com account. My search for an equal partner will have to wait. My friends will have to wait--except for the few who are willing to go out with me looking like a freak. At work I get looks of pity. I've been totally up front about what happened because I want everyone to know what the risks are.

I don't know how long this will last but given the rate of improvement I don't expect to be back to my old self before 3 months. I hope that it's not noticeable to other people about 2 months out. Next week begins the 4th week.

At least I've learned a lesson. People will just have to accept me for who I am. I know for myself that I will never have Botox injections again.

The other things I've learned are:

- that doctors are not incentivized to understand the side effects and recovery time. Because recovery time is so long, most patients don't keep in touch with their doctors over the entire course. It is the responsibility of providers who have been notified of negative side effects to check in with their patients weekly. Most prefer to distance themselves from the problem, however.

- most doctors downplay the risks, partly because the reported side effects are low (3%-5%), partly because they earn their livelihood by giving injections, and partly because they don't fully understand the extent to which the side effects and negative results impair their patients.

- most "providers" do not have enough knowledge of anatomy to practice safely and effectively

It would be interesting to see a documentary made on the negative side effects of Botox

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March 21, 2013

Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to hear what you are going through. :( I can imagine that is really disruptive to your life.

Thank you for letting us know you were with a trainee for your injections, as it does seem the outcome is largely dependent on the injectors skill level.

I will be hoping this passes as quickly as possible for you. Please keep us posted on how it is going.

April 6, 2013
Megan, I'm really not sure how you can live with yourself working on this site. I hope they pay you enough to make it worth it.
April 8, 2013

What would make you say that?

April 8, 2013
Aurelie24. I find your remark an odd comment. Certainly, I understand your anger and frustration with your unpleasant experience but what does Megan have to do with it? This site has allowed you to share your negative experience with botox. My one experience with botox, though not as bad as yours, makes me hesitate to do it again. But we both chose to try it.
April 8, 2013
Hi Vsea, You're right. Megan, I'm sorry for my comment. My tone was inappropriate. I think a site where people can post feedback and learn from others' experience is vital, and I've sought answers and posted many times. While I'm grateful for the site, I'm concerned that its mission is to promote treatments that are being performed without enough oversight and in ways that are dangerous to patients, or clients, or however providers refer to people who come in for these treatments. I think Megan's comments specifically tend to downplay the risks and negative results, and I think that a large portion of the doctors' responses are vague or even negligent. How many doctors' have responded to droopy-eye questions by answering that the ptosis would go away in two weeks? Too many, in my opinion. The posts by users are far more educational then the posts by doctors, and shouldn't it be the reverse?
April 8, 2013

Our goal is to give everyone a place to share their experiences, whether good or bad. We aren't for or against the treatments, we are for people having as much information as possible to make their decision, thus why the two sources (the doctors and the community) to get that. We try to educate on the importance of choosing a well qualified, board certified doctor to perform treatments people elect to do. I have to say, I'm hurt that you would say that "Megan's comments specifically tend to downplay the risks and negative results".

This is the comment I posted on your review:

Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to hear what you are going through. :( I can imagine that is really disruptive to your life.

Thank you for letting us know you were with a trainee for your injections, as it does seem the outcome is largely dependent on the injectors skill level.

I will be hoping this passes as quickly as possible for you. Please keep us posted on how it is going.

I have pointed out that what you are going through is disruptive to your life, and that I appreciated you telling us you were injected by a trainee hoping to highlight that fact for other community members. Then finished by asking you to keep us updated so we could hear the full story and support you. Can you help me understand how you feel this fell short?

April 8, 2013
You should be encouraged that this ordeal will be over soon. Your eye is looking much better. In fact, many people eyes are not symmetrical and it would not be obvious to people who don't know you. So hang in there.
April 11, 2013

Aurelie24, You chose to do a none necessary procedure out of vanity and it didn't work. That stinks, and I hope it gets better soon, but taking it out on Megan who helps provide a place for people to give their reviews, good or bad is uncalled for. I have never seen her push any particular treatment or doctor. You went to trainees, not even a doctor, if I am reading correctly. That was your choice. To try to foist the blame off on anyone but the trainee for their poor skills is just out of line.

April 30, 2013
Even fully qualified practitioners can misdirect a needle. And simply touching your face after a treatment can dislodge the toxin and move it to the wrong muscle. Since everyone's anatomy is different, there is no guarantee or way to completely avoid this risk, except to abstain completely. No amount of sympathy or education can change that. It's like sex--only abstinence is completely safe. It's impossible to live a completely risk-free life, but this is one risk easily avoided.
April 30, 2013
You're completely right. But I'm not blaming her for what happened to me, I'm judging her for supporting Botox treatments in a public forum.
July 8, 2013
Hi Aurelie can you tell me if your eye si better now? Does it get back to the normal position? Thanks for answering
July 8, 2013
Hi Aurelie can you tell me if your eye si better now? Does it get back to the normal position? Thanks for answering
March 23, 2013
I have had eyelid droop with botox twice. I was ready to give up on it when a very highly esteemed dermatologist told me to avoid getting the forehead botoxed and stick to between the eyebrows and crows feet. The muscles in the forehead control the eyelids and some of us are more suceptible to droop than others. Since I have stopped doing the forehead - no more droopy eye. The crows feet area actually helps to create a raised eyebrow effect as well. Don't give up on it - just stay away from the forehead in the future
March 24, 2013
This was the same experience I had. Had botox for the first and asked for frown lines only. Unfortunately,she went ahead and injected my forehead and I ended up with a droopy eye. Another RN in the same office gave me another couple injections and corrected the droop. I was worried about receiving more botox but fortunately the corrective botox worked. I will never have my forehead injected again
March 26, 2013

I had just read your post and I'm on they way to doctor tomorrow I'm terrified I have a droopy eye. Did it take the droopy eye away right away or how long did it take to work and how soon after did you get the botox to correct yr eye

March 27, 2013
I was two weeks out when I went back to the doctor's office and the nurse decided to give me more botox. My eye did not droop in the same way as Aurelie 24. The eyelid was pushed down by my nose and and pushed up at the far end. I looked evil. But she gave me several more injections and I am pleased with the results now.
April 7, 2013
It has been 5 weeks and it still looks strange.
April 7, 2013
I'm with you on that!
April 7, 2013
Don't give up on it? I just don't need or want it anymore. I just want to be myself and to age the way people are meant to age.
April 8, 2013
has it opened up some though, I used the drops they prescribed me and it opened the lid alittle but not much. Toward the late afternoon, evening it seems to be worse. I think I'm done with botox for now as well, it is to scary for me to chance it again. Let me know how you are doing and when it comes back to normal
April 8, 2013
I stopped using the drops because I don't like taking medication. My advice is to catch up on reading, watching TV, etc.
March 23, 2013
oh forgot to mention - both instances of droopy eye last 5-6 weeks so hang in there.
April 7, 2013
Thank you! We'll see. It's been 5 weeks and it's still very noticeable.
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March 25, 2013
Wow sorry about your results. When I got my frown lines done, my doctor told me she would not inject any where on the outside of my pupil line because that might cause sagging/drooping. I wish you better luck if you choose to get it done next time.
April 7, 2013
No next times for me. Thanks, though!
UPDATED FROM Aurelie24

It's Week 4, still with noticeable ptosis. Photo...

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It's Week 4, still with noticeable ptosis. Photo attached.

Replies (21)

March 26, 2013
Sorry to hear of our story. There must have been some extravisation of the botox to the levator of the upper lid, not simply the forehead musculature. Fortunately, it is reversible. Keep us posted on how long it takes for full function to restore which would be helpful to other individuals.
April 7, 2013
I've been posting pictures every couple of weeks and will let you know when I feel like myself again. Thanks!
March 27, 2013
What an unpleasant experience for you. Hope you do better soon.
April 7, 2013
there are some machines (at least here in my country Hungary) called "ultratone futura pro" for face and body that stimulates the muscles of the face or the body. Or some other muscle stimulating equipments, that can help work out the botox faster than 4 months. Check it on the internet, and ask your doctor about it.
April 7, 2013
Thank you but I think I'm going to wait it out. It's certainly been good for having a period of forced reflection time.
April 8, 2013
Are all the pictures above you are the two last ones?
April 8, 2013
Yes, they are from Week 2, Week 4, and Week 5, respectively. The droop is worse in the morning and evening, and better in the middle of the day. Being in the sun and squinting has been a good strengthening exercise. People still look at me oddly, and I still feel the difference physically, so I think it will be another 2 to 6 weeks before my lid is back to something resembling normal.
April 30, 2013
I havent recieved a photo are update on your progress It has been almost 2 months for me and it still looks the same to me with the drops alittle improvement but only cause of the drops without it looks the same. How are you doing has your eye gotten better. Please let me know
April 30, 2013
Hi kid66, it's been 8 weeks and I'd say I started to look "normal" at around 6 weeks. That is, I could tell the difference but strangers couldn't. Right now, there is perhaps only a half mm difference. My eyelid creases don't match, but most people wouldn't notice. How many units did you receive?
April 9, 2013
Aurelie - I think it's noticeable to you because you look at it everyday. Just as I was looking at my droopy eye - both times for 5-6 weeks! Looking at your week 5 picture you are nearly 90% there. Botox only lasts about 12 weeks so I would venture by the end of week 6 you should be back to normal. My comment about not giving up meant don't give up because it will get better - it's not permanent. The first 2 times I had botox I had 2 doctors who had to brag about the "thousands of patients" they had done botox on and never had droopy eye problems - yeah right - until me. I read the post about not going beyond pupil line - yeah, one of the 2 droopy eye docs told me the same thing and I still had a problem. Bottom line - you want to avoid droopy eye - stay off the forehead! I have had several botox injections in the frown lines and in the crows feet area and have not once had a repeat of droopy eye. Aurelie, I wish you continued recovery from droopy eye.
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April 29, 2013

im so sorry for your results, Im worried now i have never had botox but wanted to go and have my forehead done becuase of these lines i hate them im only 27, but lines i dont like, so if everyone says dont inject into forehaed to advoid droopy eye does injections between the brows help the forhead? because i want it done so bad but i cant afford a loss of bad result i model and dance my looks are my income, any info help?