POSTED UNDER Breast Fat Transfer Reviews
Implant Removal with Bilateral Tissue Advancement
UPDATED FROM Flat2fake2free'n'fab
1 year post
Swimsuit weather is coming up
$19,000
It's been about a year post surgery now and swim suit weather is coming up.
A bikini is out if the question, which is odd because I wore one even when I had capsule contractured implants--I just wore a bandeau to camouflage the shape and size difference of the two.
So what should I wear? If I want to go swimming, without worrying about people noticing my deformities, I'd have to wear bicycle shorts, and a tank top. Oh wait, no. I couldn't wear a tank top. If I did, I'd be nervous of people looking at the large egg-shaped lump sticking out between my breasts (not to mention the lumps all over the top and outsides of my breasts, that one doctor thought were cancerous tumors.)
Even if my tank top was higher cut, my two, symmetrically-placed scars that sit right below my colar bone (that are raised up because of knot-like scars or nubs of synthetic material that lie ubderneth them) would be visible. I think this is odd, since none of the other fat transfer doctors give their patents these scars--not unless they have given them lifts via the Refine Suture device (which, based on my last call to the makers of this device, Dr. Khouri has neither been trained to use it nor is registered as a user of their product. [Perhaps he has someone in China making copy cat, Refine device replicas, I don't know]). But I DO know that I have scars in the EXACT places that those women, who have received a Refine (pseudo incision-less) breast lift, have above, below, and around their breasts. But I digress.
So if I can't hide my scars and lumps with a high- cut tank top, I'd have to wear a crew-neck shirt. But it doesn't dtop there.
There's still the dichotomy issue I'll have to deal with. Namely, the comfort of being supported and modestly covered by a bra vs the major discomfort of wearing any bra that constricts or even slightly rubs against my nerve-damaged skin. (And who wouldn't have some type of nerve damage--what with their abdominal skin having been ripped off of the underlying fascia, then tugged and sutured [under much tension] to tissue far above it's normal position?)
I guess I'll go without a bra, like I almost always do now, since I won't want to be in pain.
Let me repeat that.... I still cannot wear bras without severe discomfort. STILL. And to those who will argue otherwise, "severe discomfort" is another way of saying "pain".
Also to those of you who scoffed at my claims, accusing me of having a low pain threshold, remember this--I walked around for FOUR months on a broken foot. So believe me when I say that even my underwire-free bras are still painful to wear.
Besides, you can't really water down the glaring fact that after whole year, my body still hurts.
To those that have read the comments, didn't those women, those radical, pro-Khouri advocates, tell me to be patient? Is one year not enough time for the pain to subside? The Lord knows I've tried to ignore it. I mean, I kinda have to--seeing as I have no choice.
Nonetheless, pain isn't visible. I may have be able to hide how my skin recoils when the soft, jersey cotton of my shirt (which now feels like coarse wool) rubs against my body. But it hasn't been easy to hide all of my unnecessary scars that now cover my body.
PS Here's a note to all those cancer patients who will try to one-up me, and make me feel shame that I dare complain of these "trivial" issues despite that I, unlike them, am lucky enough to still have my breasts.
I tell you this. I OBJECT to your rhetorical fallacies--your use of Emotional Appeal* and of Ignoratio Elenchi Fallacy** as an attempt to discount and disparage me.
(*The Appeal to Emotion is a type of argument that attempts to arouse sympathy of its audience in order to gain acceptance of it's conclusion.
**Ignoratio Elenchi is translated to "Ignorance of refutation" also know as a "Red Herring". The point of this argument is to distract the audience from the issue at hand, by the introduction of some irrelevancy.)
In other words, its unfortunate if you lost your breasts to cancer. But this blog is about my story. I didn't have a mastectomy so it's irelevant to compare your story to mine. And if you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. You have your very own forum and nobody is keeping you here.
A bikini is out if the question, which is odd because I wore one even when I had capsule contractured implants--I just wore a bandeau to camouflage the shape and size difference of the two.
So what should I wear? If I want to go swimming, without worrying about people noticing my deformities, I'd have to wear bicycle shorts, and a tank top. Oh wait, no. I couldn't wear a tank top. If I did, I'd be nervous of people looking at the large egg-shaped lump sticking out between my breasts (not to mention the lumps all over the top and outsides of my breasts, that one doctor thought were cancerous tumors.)
Even if my tank top was higher cut, my two, symmetrically-placed scars that sit right below my colar bone (that are raised up because of knot-like scars or nubs of synthetic material that lie ubderneth them) would be visible. I think this is odd, since none of the other fat transfer doctors give their patents these scars--not unless they have given them lifts via the Refine Suture device (which, based on my last call to the makers of this device, Dr. Khouri has neither been trained to use it nor is registered as a user of their product. [Perhaps he has someone in China making copy cat, Refine device replicas, I don't know]). But I DO know that I have scars in the EXACT places that those women, who have received a Refine (pseudo incision-less) breast lift, have above, below, and around their breasts. But I digress.
So if I can't hide my scars and lumps with a high- cut tank top, I'd have to wear a crew-neck shirt. But it doesn't dtop there.
There's still the dichotomy issue I'll have to deal with. Namely, the comfort of being supported and modestly covered by a bra vs the major discomfort of wearing any bra that constricts or even slightly rubs against my nerve-damaged skin. (And who wouldn't have some type of nerve damage--what with their abdominal skin having been ripped off of the underlying fascia, then tugged and sutured [under much tension] to tissue far above it's normal position?)
I guess I'll go without a bra, like I almost always do now, since I won't want to be in pain.
Let me repeat that.... I still cannot wear bras without severe discomfort. STILL. And to those who will argue otherwise, "severe discomfort" is another way of saying "pain".
Also to those of you who scoffed at my claims, accusing me of having a low pain threshold, remember this--I walked around for FOUR months on a broken foot. So believe me when I say that even my underwire-free bras are still painful to wear.
Besides, you can't really water down the glaring fact that after whole year, my body still hurts.
To those that have read the comments, didn't those women, those radical, pro-Khouri advocates, tell me to be patient? Is one year not enough time for the pain to subside? The Lord knows I've tried to ignore it. I mean, I kinda have to--seeing as I have no choice.
Nonetheless, pain isn't visible. I may have be able to hide how my skin recoils when the soft, jersey cotton of my shirt (which now feels like coarse wool) rubs against my body. But it hasn't been easy to hide all of my unnecessary scars that now cover my body.
PS Here's a note to all those cancer patients who will try to one-up me, and make me feel shame that I dare complain of these "trivial" issues despite that I, unlike them, am lucky enough to still have my breasts.
I tell you this. I OBJECT to your rhetorical fallacies--your use of Emotional Appeal* and of Ignoratio Elenchi Fallacy** as an attempt to discount and disparage me.
(*The Appeal to Emotion is a type of argument that attempts to arouse sympathy of its audience in order to gain acceptance of it's conclusion.
**Ignoratio Elenchi is translated to "Ignorance of refutation" also know as a "Red Herring". The point of this argument is to distract the audience from the issue at hand, by the introduction of some irrelevancy.)
In other words, its unfortunate if you lost your breasts to cancer. But this blog is about my story. I didn't have a mastectomy so it's irelevant to compare your story to mine. And if you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. You have your very own forum and nobody is keeping you here.
UPDATED FROM Flat2fake2free'n'fab
3 months post
Ex-husband shows my review to his family and girlfriends--HUGE MISTAKE
If you've read my review, you'll remember that I mentioned my husband. Let's call him.... What was the name of Mr. Hyde?--you know, Dr. Jeckyl's cruel, bipolar alter-ego? It actually was Edward..... But when you hear the name "Edward", who comes to mind? Do you think of the handsome, chivalrous Vampire from the Twilight books, who will protect the life and honor of his love, to his death? Well, that is precisely, the OPPOSITE of my husband. So I need another name. Hmm, how about...I know, Herod.
Now where was I? Because this review was suppose to be anonymous, I didn't feel the need to mentioned any extra details, like that we are separated because I filed for divorce. Nonetheless, when I did mentioned "Herod", I wrote things which I considered to be complementary...until now.
Screw with me and you'll screw yourself.
One morning a few weeks ago, when I was half awake, I had a moment of insanity and told my soon-to-be-ex, "Herod", of my issues with pain and restricted movement. As I mentioned long ago, "Herod" is a surgeon.
I caught "Harod" at a time when he was at work; so I knew he would be sober, and thus I was thinking he could act like a adult and give me some professional advice. (After you read this, you'll wonder what in the world I was thinking.) What can I say? I was in pain, and desperate, and still groggy with sleep. But of all things I could have told him, only G-d knows why I also mentioned this site.
Big mistake.
When "Harod" found my review, he texted me, noot "Oh my lord, what happened?" or even a "Hang in there. It'll get better". Nope he wrote something meaner than all my Realself adversaries have ever said. And it went, exactly like this:
"...Do you plan on moving to Hollywood or getting a modeling contract in New York? I'm glad we are almost done. You are unbelievable....
"Narcissism"
No surprise there. I brushed it off and expected that to be the end of it, especially after he apologized for his thoughtlessness. But I was wrong.
I guess HIPPA didn't apply because I wasn't his patient, so "Harod" felt at liberty to send this review to MY FATHER--with all it's lovely pictures included (don't worry, though, despite the fact that "Herod" tries to convince me that my family doesn't like me, my father and I are very close, and he actually cared enough to help me get rid of my ruptured implants--unlike some person.)
Around that same time, "Harod" thought it was a good idea to tell his two girlfriends. And he called ME stupid! Doesn't he know that "if you want to spread information fast, you can do it by telephone, television, or tell a woman"?
Bigger mistake.
Indiscretion breeds contempt.
Now ladies, if you were my husband, would you want all these people to see, that you let your wife go for so many years looking like that?
Anyway, after my soon-to-be ex, who we are calling "Harod" read my review again, he told me that I have "body dysmorphic disorder". I'm sure you have heard of people, men included, who have had dozens, or even hundreds of surgeries, but are never satisfied with their results. Those people have body dysmorphic disorder, not the high percentage of women who get some type of breast surgery. These women KNOW they look fine. They just want to look a little bit MORE fine.
(BTW, If I really had this disorder, wouldn't I be too disgusted with myself to post my deformed breasts on this site? Surely I would not have gone THIS long before having them fixed.)
So, "Harod" tells me, and he tells his girlfriends that I need psychiatric help. He tells me he is genuinely concerned--and worried that I will "never be happy" with myself. Then he turns on a dime and cuts me down because I say I am proud of myself for doing a review that can be helpful to other women, who might be thinking about having this surgery. I mentioned that if Anita Hill could stand strong and not buckle under the weight of negative media scrutiny (she accused Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment), then I wouldn't either.
I wrote that a few days ago. I think I sent that to him, but it might have been in the text that got erased when my phone died. Anyway, in regards to me being proud of my review, he texted me this today:
"You place too much importance upon yourself. You're not a Hollywood Diva."
HUGE mistake.
I can't say I wasn't warned, though. It was the last day of my honeymoon, over a decade ago, when we were late to the 'Booze Cruise'. When we got there we were all smiles and giggles as we tried to squeeze in a quick, pre-voyage picture. But people on board were getting antsy, as they wanted to "get the show on the road".
As we walked toward the ship, I realized I forgot the tickets. That was the first time my husband called me "stupid idiot". (Reality check. I was smart enough to get us on board by asking if we could leave some stuff as collateral until we could give them the tickets.)
When we were boarding the ship and trying to find seats, "Harod" spewed just about EVERY nasty insult I could expect to hear throughout the next years of our marriage. I was horrified and utterly shocked--and so was EVERYONE else on board who was within hearing distance. Remember--we were late--SO late, that we almost didn't make it, and all those passengers aboard who were waiting for us, were looking RIGHT at us. Can you imagine how embarrassed I was? But wait, it gets worse.
My husband of eight days kept on yelling at me--in front of the shocked and disgusted passengers. Talk about "NC", as
Freddy Ware, from "The Devil in the Junior League", would say.
Finally, some gentleman, who felt pity for me--a true Edward Cullen, came to the rescue of the damsel in distress. But If you stand up for my honor, however, you'll pay the price--just ask mother--she did, when she tried to intervene on my behalf...but that's another story.
My new husband's fury became directed at the kind gentleman. And as soon as my groom threw his first pathetic, misdirected punch, a horde of men jumped in to break up the fight. A brawl had broken out and my supposedly professional and smart husband was the cause of it!
Before I knew what had happened, I was whisked away by half a dozen women, who pulled me into the bathroom. They spoke all at once, but it was like they had one voice. What they said was this: "As SOON as we arrive back at port, you need to pack up and immediately and get to the airport. You need to fly home today. And go straight to file for a divorce." and then they added a prophetic warning, "THIS is what your marriage will look like if you stay."
I didn't know what to do. That sounded logical, but then my mind raced with thoughts: "This can't be happening. How can I just leave and get a divorce? All my relatives paid to come to our wedding. What if I can't get an annulment and won't be able to marry again? This wasn't suppose to happen. Maybe this is just a bad dream."
When I was a kid, I remember seeing a few movies, which were about the lives of abused woman. I thought those woman had no sense and they were stupid for staying. I KNEW I would NEVER be like them. But then I grew up and that became me. I was doing the same thing, making the same excuses: "This is just a one time thing. He won't do it again. Besides, maybe he's right, and maybe it was MY FAULT."
So back to the most recent past. Last week, Harod's "friend" called his mother and told her about my review. Do you think my soon-to-be ex-mother-in-law will tell her friends? What could be worse than everyone finding out?....How about our 8 year old daughter finding out when her father turned his computer to face her direction and said: "Look at YOUR MOTHER. She put her naked pictures on the internet. See how disgusting she is? Did you know, she has plastic boobs!?!"
Our daughter said that she saw him several other times looking at my naked pictures, and it made her feel dirty.....Are you shocked now? Well, you ain't heard nothin' yet.
That wasn't the first time she witnessed her father debase me. The first was when she was less than a month old. It was just over two weeks after I had given birth to our daughter. Our family of four (at the time) had been on the boat all day and had just returned home. I took my tired newborn upstairs into the solace of the quiet master bedroom, and started to nurse her--when all of a sudden the quiet was shattered by the bellowing voice of my drunk husband. He barged into the room and demanded I pay up. He told me he had "waited long enough".
For the record, during the duration of my pregnancy, my husband seemed to be turned off by my pregnant body and wouldn't go near me--And not to sound pride-filled, but I looked damn good when I was pregnant. I looked ripe and I looked sexy. I was confident and loved my figure. I barely put on any weight; I didn't get any stretch marks. I didn't have any swelling in my ankles or legs. And after the long grueling months of morning sickness, I was filled with energy and hormones. So why was I so undesirable? And why was I desirable so soon after giving birth--what with my tired eyes and my still intact, pelvic stitches that were placed to sew up my birthing tear?
Shouldn't "Harod" have known the reason why OBGyns advise every patient who has had a normal vaginal delivery, to WAIT SIX WEEKS before having intercourse? Those tears need adequate time to heal So should he have known? Yes. Did he care?
I tried to get out of it. I reminded "Harod" that I still had several weeks before I could have (can we say that word here?), but be didn't care. And out came an onslaught about how I was a "cold fish" and how he was going to "get a girlfriend" if I didn't do my duty and how he had a "right" to sleep with his wife.
I was tired and vulnerable. I had a toddler and a fragile newborn infant in my arms, and my family was hundreds of miles away. What could I do? So I submitted. And my husband, who vowed too love me and protect me through good times and bad, pounded away at me like only a sweaty, impotent, drunk man can, oblivious to my quiet tears and sobs of "ow. Ow. Ouch".
But that's not the worst part. Did you forget about the baby? Where was she in all of this? Well, she was nursing on my breast the ENTIRE TIME because her father couldn't wait to screw her mother in more ways than one.
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Don't feel bad for me. Really. Though "Harod" has the unfortunate sociopathic talent of knowing just the RIGHT words to say to make people squirm and feel horrible about themselves, and even worse--that he relishes in his enjoyment of it, I've actually become a stronger woman because of his relentless torment.
Even though his words hurt, at least I know how he feels about me. I just feel bad for all those who don't, like his two sister-in-laws. He said this about the older of the two, "She's fat and lazy....I don't know HOW my brother could ---k her." (She's actually a wonderful woman and I wish I had become closer to her. But if you know anything about abused woman, you'll know that they retreat from friendships. It just takes too much energy to make up lies about how "happy" their life is.)
Do you want to hear what "Herod" said about the newest member to his family? He said "------ is a gold digger. And the only reason why my (other) brother is marrying her is because she has BIG [RS bleep]."
Today, Harod threatened to divulge my name on my review. That's how I got the idea to do this. If all these people are going to hate me, or gossip about me, or "worry" about me, well then, they should get to know me a little bit better.
Yesterday "Harod" said I was a "vile and vindictive" person for threatening to write this update.
This got me thinking. If "Harod" cared so much for my well-being that he thought it a good idea to share my review with people, who obviously can't keep their mouths shut, then I'll care about him enough to publish this update, which I've just shortened by two big scents. (One of which was about me calling the police after he pulled a loaded gun out of the safe and told me he would show me how to use it so I could go kill myself. And the next one was about me calling the cops on him AGAIN this weekend after getting a disturbing call about my depressed 10yo, who was being punished because she refused to drive with her intoxicated father. I took a long time to write about the events, but who wants to read that much?).
So the next time Harod chooses to ogle pictures of my naked body, which he will never touch again, he might see this, read it, and will finally be able to understand that HE is the one who really needs help.
Do you think that will happen? Or will he say that I am the bad one? Just yesterday he texted me this: "I DONT NEED YOUR NEGATIVE ENERGY, CHI, KARMA, or BAD LUCK."
So ladies, perhaps many of you think I am nuts for not divorcing him on day 9 of my marriage, or for not leaving sooner. But I bet what you're really thinking inside is "what were you THINKING woman? WHY did you tell that monster your secrets?"
Maybe he is right. Maybe I am stupid.....Or maybe, just maybe--he's the stupid one.
Did I mention that if you screw with me, you'll screw yourself?
Tell my secrets and I'll tell yours. And I know so many, many more....
Now where was I? Because this review was suppose to be anonymous, I didn't feel the need to mentioned any extra details, like that we are separated because I filed for divorce. Nonetheless, when I did mentioned "Herod", I wrote things which I considered to be complementary...until now.
Screw with me and you'll screw yourself.
One morning a few weeks ago, when I was half awake, I had a moment of insanity and told my soon-to-be-ex, "Herod", of my issues with pain and restricted movement. As I mentioned long ago, "Herod" is a surgeon.
I caught "Harod" at a time when he was at work; so I knew he would be sober, and thus I was thinking he could act like a adult and give me some professional advice. (After you read this, you'll wonder what in the world I was thinking.) What can I say? I was in pain, and desperate, and still groggy with sleep. But of all things I could have told him, only G-d knows why I also mentioned this site.
Big mistake.
When "Harod" found my review, he texted me, noot "Oh my lord, what happened?" or even a "Hang in there. It'll get better". Nope he wrote something meaner than all my Realself adversaries have ever said. And it went, exactly like this:
"...Do you plan on moving to Hollywood or getting a modeling contract in New York? I'm glad we are almost done. You are unbelievable....
"Narcissism"
No surprise there. I brushed it off and expected that to be the end of it, especially after he apologized for his thoughtlessness. But I was wrong.
I guess HIPPA didn't apply because I wasn't his patient, so "Harod" felt at liberty to send this review to MY FATHER--with all it's lovely pictures included (don't worry, though, despite the fact that "Herod" tries to convince me that my family doesn't like me, my father and I are very close, and he actually cared enough to help me get rid of my ruptured implants--unlike some person.)
Around that same time, "Harod" thought it was a good idea to tell his two girlfriends. And he called ME stupid! Doesn't he know that "if you want to spread information fast, you can do it by telephone, television, or tell a woman"?
Bigger mistake.
Indiscretion breeds contempt.
Now ladies, if you were my husband, would you want all these people to see, that you let your wife go for so many years looking like that?
Anyway, after my soon-to-be ex, who we are calling "Harod" read my review again, he told me that I have "body dysmorphic disorder". I'm sure you have heard of people, men included, who have had dozens, or even hundreds of surgeries, but are never satisfied with their results. Those people have body dysmorphic disorder, not the high percentage of women who get some type of breast surgery. These women KNOW they look fine. They just want to look a little bit MORE fine.
(BTW, If I really had this disorder, wouldn't I be too disgusted with myself to post my deformed breasts on this site? Surely I would not have gone THIS long before having them fixed.)
So, "Harod" tells me, and he tells his girlfriends that I need psychiatric help. He tells me he is genuinely concerned--and worried that I will "never be happy" with myself. Then he turns on a dime and cuts me down because I say I am proud of myself for doing a review that can be helpful to other women, who might be thinking about having this surgery. I mentioned that if Anita Hill could stand strong and not buckle under the weight of negative media scrutiny (she accused Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment), then I wouldn't either.
I wrote that a few days ago. I think I sent that to him, but it might have been in the text that got erased when my phone died. Anyway, in regards to me being proud of my review, he texted me this today:
"You place too much importance upon yourself. You're not a Hollywood Diva."
HUGE mistake.
I can't say I wasn't warned, though. It was the last day of my honeymoon, over a decade ago, when we were late to the 'Booze Cruise'. When we got there we were all smiles and giggles as we tried to squeeze in a quick, pre-voyage picture. But people on board were getting antsy, as they wanted to "get the show on the road".
As we walked toward the ship, I realized I forgot the tickets. That was the first time my husband called me "stupid idiot". (Reality check. I was smart enough to get us on board by asking if we could leave some stuff as collateral until we could give them the tickets.)
When we were boarding the ship and trying to find seats, "Harod" spewed just about EVERY nasty insult I could expect to hear throughout the next years of our marriage. I was horrified and utterly shocked--and so was EVERYONE else on board who was within hearing distance. Remember--we were late--SO late, that we almost didn't make it, and all those passengers aboard who were waiting for us, were looking RIGHT at us. Can you imagine how embarrassed I was? But wait, it gets worse.
My husband of eight days kept on yelling at me--in front of the shocked and disgusted passengers. Talk about "NC", as
Freddy Ware, from "The Devil in the Junior League", would say.
Finally, some gentleman, who felt pity for me--a true Edward Cullen, came to the rescue of the damsel in distress. But If you stand up for my honor, however, you'll pay the price--just ask mother--she did, when she tried to intervene on my behalf...but that's another story.
My new husband's fury became directed at the kind gentleman. And as soon as my groom threw his first pathetic, misdirected punch, a horde of men jumped in to break up the fight. A brawl had broken out and my supposedly professional and smart husband was the cause of it!
Before I knew what had happened, I was whisked away by half a dozen women, who pulled me into the bathroom. They spoke all at once, but it was like they had one voice. What they said was this: "As SOON as we arrive back at port, you need to pack up and immediately and get to the airport. You need to fly home today. And go straight to file for a divorce." and then they added a prophetic warning, "THIS is what your marriage will look like if you stay."
I didn't know what to do. That sounded logical, but then my mind raced with thoughts: "This can't be happening. How can I just leave and get a divorce? All my relatives paid to come to our wedding. What if I can't get an annulment and won't be able to marry again? This wasn't suppose to happen. Maybe this is just a bad dream."
When I was a kid, I remember seeing a few movies, which were about the lives of abused woman. I thought those woman had no sense and they were stupid for staying. I KNEW I would NEVER be like them. But then I grew up and that became me. I was doing the same thing, making the same excuses: "This is just a one time thing. He won't do it again. Besides, maybe he's right, and maybe it was MY FAULT."
So back to the most recent past. Last week, Harod's "friend" called his mother and told her about my review. Do you think my soon-to-be ex-mother-in-law will tell her friends? What could be worse than everyone finding out?....How about our 8 year old daughter finding out when her father turned his computer to face her direction and said: "Look at YOUR MOTHER. She put her naked pictures on the internet. See how disgusting she is? Did you know, she has plastic boobs!?!"
Our daughter said that she saw him several other times looking at my naked pictures, and it made her feel dirty.....Are you shocked now? Well, you ain't heard nothin' yet.
That wasn't the first time she witnessed her father debase me. The first was when she was less than a month old. It was just over two weeks after I had given birth to our daughter. Our family of four (at the time) had been on the boat all day and had just returned home. I took my tired newborn upstairs into the solace of the quiet master bedroom, and started to nurse her--when all of a sudden the quiet was shattered by the bellowing voice of my drunk husband. He barged into the room and demanded I pay up. He told me he had "waited long enough".
For the record, during the duration of my pregnancy, my husband seemed to be turned off by my pregnant body and wouldn't go near me--And not to sound pride-filled, but I looked damn good when I was pregnant. I looked ripe and I looked sexy. I was confident and loved my figure. I barely put on any weight; I didn't get any stretch marks. I didn't have any swelling in my ankles or legs. And after the long grueling months of morning sickness, I was filled with energy and hormones. So why was I so undesirable? And why was I desirable so soon after giving birth--what with my tired eyes and my still intact, pelvic stitches that were placed to sew up my birthing tear?
Shouldn't "Harod" have known the reason why OBGyns advise every patient who has had a normal vaginal delivery, to WAIT SIX WEEKS before having intercourse? Those tears need adequate time to heal So should he have known? Yes. Did he care?
I tried to get out of it. I reminded "Harod" that I still had several weeks before I could have (can we say that word here?), but be didn't care. And out came an onslaught about how I was a "cold fish" and how he was going to "get a girlfriend" if I didn't do my duty and how he had a "right" to sleep with his wife.
I was tired and vulnerable. I had a toddler and a fragile newborn infant in my arms, and my family was hundreds of miles away. What could I do? So I submitted. And my husband, who vowed too love me and protect me through good times and bad, pounded away at me like only a sweaty, impotent, drunk man can, oblivious to my quiet tears and sobs of "ow. Ow. Ouch".
But that's not the worst part. Did you forget about the baby? Where was she in all of this? Well, she was nursing on my breast the ENTIRE TIME because her father couldn't wait to screw her mother in more ways than one.
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Don't feel bad for me. Really. Though "Harod" has the unfortunate sociopathic talent of knowing just the RIGHT words to say to make people squirm and feel horrible about themselves, and even worse--that he relishes in his enjoyment of it, I've actually become a stronger woman because of his relentless torment.
Even though his words hurt, at least I know how he feels about me. I just feel bad for all those who don't, like his two sister-in-laws. He said this about the older of the two, "She's fat and lazy....I don't know HOW my brother could ---k her." (She's actually a wonderful woman and I wish I had become closer to her. But if you know anything about abused woman, you'll know that they retreat from friendships. It just takes too much energy to make up lies about how "happy" their life is.)
Do you want to hear what "Herod" said about the newest member to his family? He said "------ is a gold digger. And the only reason why my (other) brother is marrying her is because she has BIG [RS bleep]."
Today, Harod threatened to divulge my name on my review. That's how I got the idea to do this. If all these people are going to hate me, or gossip about me, or "worry" about me, well then, they should get to know me a little bit better.
Yesterday "Harod" said I was a "vile and vindictive" person for threatening to write this update.
This got me thinking. If "Harod" cared so much for my well-being that he thought it a good idea to share my review with people, who obviously can't keep their mouths shut, then I'll care about him enough to publish this update, which I've just shortened by two big scents. (One of which was about me calling the police after he pulled a loaded gun out of the safe and told me he would show me how to use it so I could go kill myself. And the next one was about me calling the cops on him AGAIN this weekend after getting a disturbing call about my depressed 10yo, who was being punished because she refused to drive with her intoxicated father. I took a long time to write about the events, but who wants to read that much?).
So the next time Harod chooses to ogle pictures of my naked body, which he will never touch again, he might see this, read it, and will finally be able to understand that HE is the one who really needs help.
Do you think that will happen? Or will he say that I am the bad one? Just yesterday he texted me this: "I DONT NEED YOUR NEGATIVE ENERGY, CHI, KARMA, or BAD LUCK."
So ladies, perhaps many of you think I am nuts for not divorcing him on day 9 of my marriage, or for not leaving sooner. But I bet what you're really thinking inside is "what were you THINKING woman? WHY did you tell that monster your secrets?"
Maybe he is right. Maybe I am stupid.....Or maybe, just maybe--he's the stupid one.
Did I mention that if you screw with me, you'll screw yourself?
Tell my secrets and I'll tell yours. And I know so many, many more....
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Am I an angry, bitter woman? I might as well address the question, because know I'll hear that statement soon. (Funny how it's always me, who is in the wrong).......So, AM I bitter? Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. When I find out that my anonymity has been breached, I might as well chew on a whole bottle of Bauer aspirin, because you bet I'll be bitter. But when I watch my children happily play together outside or when I take my giant, old, and trim, 165lb dog on a walk, I feel the beauty and peace of God's workmanship and I realize that in the long run, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks of me. But alas, I am still human. And in the short run, I do care. I care that people hate, what they perceive to be me. If they only knew, they might have other opinions. But it's not a good idea to spread one's dirty laundry all over town is it? I am still somewhat safe here to openly express my views and stories................As my soon-to-be ex-husband always liked to say, much to my annoyance, "No good deed goes left unpunished." Gawd that bugged me every time he self-righteously said that. Yesterday he told me I was wrong, that he was worried and that's why he told his smoking/drinking buddy, medical technition friend of my issues. He was doing a good thing--because he "thought she could help". As if! How is she qualified? Like surgeons EVER ask opinions of their surgical techs. Someone sure needs to explain to this guy what the definition of "good" is.
U r a brave woman really
Sure that u will be better
Wait, wait, wait. STOP!!! Forget about your loser ex. You have how many kids?! That's a question mark with an exclamation point. And look at that tummy guys, that's what goddesses are made of. Seriously you have a beautiful tummy and bod. Goodness am both jealous and amazed! Please, please stop talking about him and giving him your attention talk about you.
Thank you. I appreciate your compliment. I only posted that stuff about my ex as insurance to protect me so that he and his mother and girlsfriend(s) won't advertise my blog. If they don't want their dirty laundry known, then they better not share my fabulous blog. ;)
You are a beautiful woman inside & out. You are a smart & wise woman. You are blessed to have 4 wonderful children. However, this man is horrible. Unfortunately there are horrible people out there. How dare he think he has the right to try to try to humiliate you. Damn him! You have absolutely every right to protect yourself on this blog my love. Protect yourself. Good on you for posting what you did about him. He more than deserves everything he gets back. Do not ever fear this man or his followers for he is the ultimate coward! Now live your life my love and give no time or energy to this man. This man is the father of your children so I imagine there will be some sort of contact. How dare this man do this to you. He and everyone who supported him on this should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. How unenlightened they are. I am extremely angry about how he has treated you. I am also angry that his supporters do not see him for what he is. He is without a doubt... A BULLY. Come on people, what is wrong with you! NEVER support a bully...ever! The Ex-husband is a bully! I am an experienced practising Registered Nurse with over 30 years experience. And plenty of life experience as well. You DO NOT have Body Dysmorphic Disorder. While there are many good aesthetic Plastic Surgeons out there who care a lot about their patients there are some who do not. The goodness of the Hippocratic Oath no longer applies to all Medics. It has become a haven for many for extreme greed and is often ego-driven. Many (but not all) Plastic Surgeons see far too many patients and do not take the necessary time to care for their patients. How many barely see their patients post-op and especially don't want to know if there is a problem. Quite shocking actually. I am sorry for the way the medical profession has treated you. You deserved better from the medical profession. By the way, I don't like to label but, your ex-husband has classic symptoms of 'Narcissistic Personality Disorder'. I am glad you are no longer with him. You deserve so much better. Love and light and healing to you. I wish you nothing but peace for the future xx
Quite right too!
I only hope that it's true that you are leaving this man. And good luck with your recovery! I hope that scars get less visible with time
Walk away and don't look back. He doesn't deserve the energy it takes to even consider to think about him. Focus on yourself and you wonderful children.
UPDATED FROM Flat2fake2free'n'fab
2 months post
I'm ugly now. I regret this surgery
I am so angry. Yesterday I went to Target to try on bathing suits. I knew I wouldn't be able to wear any this year, since I need to keep wearing this super tight compression tape, which I assume is the new experimental tool for keeping my advanced skin in place.
Theoretically, if the advanced skin is FORCED to stay it's new spot, then it will grow new roots and stay put in it's new position--as part of the breast tissue. But, on the other hand, if gravity takes hold, then it will pull the skin back down, and leave the horrible effect of odd-looking, bottomed-out breasts, with that tell-tale, double-bubble deformity which Dr. Khouri's other patients have unfortunately experienced.
From what other realself members have told me, Dr. Khouri has, in the past, solely relied on the internal sutured bra to keep the newly advanced skin in it's new home. But that has proven to be ineffective, since these stitches loosen (OMG the pain this causes is unexplainable) and eventually get absorbed. Without any painful internal bra, there is no longer anything to keep the skin from falling back down. And the reality is, that once the skin falls back down, it never returns to the spot that it once was! So the poor patient is left looking WORSE than before she had the surgery. Doesn't this sound like some crazy black market procedure?
So I guess I'm the newest guinea pig--I'm the only patient that I could find on realself, who posted concrete EVIDENCE of having had RAFT (aka, Bi-lateral tissue advancement) surgery WITH the additional use of tight, compression tape. Will I finally be the lab rat who has received the winning technique? Do I look like I'm a winner?
Back to my story--after I went into Target's dressing room, I painfully took off my bra. I could tell my Percocet was wearing off. That's right, six weeks post op and I'm STILL on narcotics and NSAIDS. It's surprising I haven't turned into an addict yet--but here and there, I'll stop taking the Percocets to make sure I'm not developing the signs of narcotic withdrawal. And my supply is running low anyway.
I wish I had been told I would experience so much excruciating pain. I wish I had been told that I would have the skin above my naval ripped off my underlying fascia and sewn up into breasts like an il-fitting alteration. I wish I had been told that I would have too much pain to pick up or even HUG my children and that I would have to ask my little kids to reach for things because the action caused unbearable agony. I wish I had been told a lot of things, but, sadly, I had not.
Anyway, I carefully put on the bathing suit top to avoid having to raise my arms, since when I do that, shooting stabs of paralyzingly acute pain, run from the nerves in my arm pits all the way down into my elbows. Actually as I type this, I'm having that EXACT sensation in my right arm pit and it's traveling along my nerve endings. I tell ya, I can totally empathize with those who have Fibromyalgia--and I worry that I, too, have developed this. Who knows--maybe in another year the pain will subside. But WAIT. I just wanted my implants removed with fat grafting! I didn't want this weird experimental surgery. And I certainly did NOT want the horrible evidence of this surgery to be visible for the whole world to see!
That's right. When I put on the first bathing suit top, I saw them--Long, red, ugly scars, which Dr. Khouri ASSURED me would be hidden. But they weren't covered AT ALL by the bathing suit.
Dr. Khouri said he didn't want to remove my implants via my old inframammary fold scar, because fat would leak out of there. But what fat? Fat that he injected? If I was already going to expect at least one more surgery after this initial procedure, then why couldn't he have waited to inject fat around that area until a later date?
Dr. Khouri said he didn't want to make any incisions on my breast -- but that's laughable, since I already HAD scars there! What kind of a doctor would think it's ok to add TWO MORE scars--but not where they'd be hidden--rather, in PLAIN SIGHT?
I would expect a $20,000 surgery to give better results! Am I crazy for expecting this? How many of us lab rats have to be disfigured before the doctor gets it right? Huh? I'm demanding to know......You know, my husband is a surgeon. And when he was in residency, he and his colleagues practiced new techniques on a pig. A PIG, NOT a human!...
Look at me! Does this look like something you would want to have done to you?
Theoretically, if the advanced skin is FORCED to stay it's new spot, then it will grow new roots and stay put in it's new position--as part of the breast tissue. But, on the other hand, if gravity takes hold, then it will pull the skin back down, and leave the horrible effect of odd-looking, bottomed-out breasts, with that tell-tale, double-bubble deformity which Dr. Khouri's other patients have unfortunately experienced.
From what other realself members have told me, Dr. Khouri has, in the past, solely relied on the internal sutured bra to keep the newly advanced skin in it's new home. But that has proven to be ineffective, since these stitches loosen (OMG the pain this causes is unexplainable) and eventually get absorbed. Without any painful internal bra, there is no longer anything to keep the skin from falling back down. And the reality is, that once the skin falls back down, it never returns to the spot that it once was! So the poor patient is left looking WORSE than before she had the surgery. Doesn't this sound like some crazy black market procedure?
So I guess I'm the newest guinea pig--I'm the only patient that I could find on realself, who posted concrete EVIDENCE of having had RAFT (aka, Bi-lateral tissue advancement) surgery WITH the additional use of tight, compression tape. Will I finally be the lab rat who has received the winning technique? Do I look like I'm a winner?
Back to my story--after I went into Target's dressing room, I painfully took off my bra. I could tell my Percocet was wearing off. That's right, six weeks post op and I'm STILL on narcotics and NSAIDS. It's surprising I haven't turned into an addict yet--but here and there, I'll stop taking the Percocets to make sure I'm not developing the signs of narcotic withdrawal. And my supply is running low anyway.
I wish I had been told I would experience so much excruciating pain. I wish I had been told that I would have the skin above my naval ripped off my underlying fascia and sewn up into breasts like an il-fitting alteration. I wish I had been told that I would have too much pain to pick up or even HUG my children and that I would have to ask my little kids to reach for things because the action caused unbearable agony. I wish I had been told a lot of things, but, sadly, I had not.
Anyway, I carefully put on the bathing suit top to avoid having to raise my arms, since when I do that, shooting stabs of paralyzingly acute pain, run from the nerves in my arm pits all the way down into my elbows. Actually as I type this, I'm having that EXACT sensation in my right arm pit and it's traveling along my nerve endings. I tell ya, I can totally empathize with those who have Fibromyalgia--and I worry that I, too, have developed this. Who knows--maybe in another year the pain will subside. But WAIT. I just wanted my implants removed with fat grafting! I didn't want this weird experimental surgery. And I certainly did NOT want the horrible evidence of this surgery to be visible for the whole world to see!
That's right. When I put on the first bathing suit top, I saw them--Long, red, ugly scars, which Dr. Khouri ASSURED me would be hidden. But they weren't covered AT ALL by the bathing suit.
Dr. Khouri said he didn't want to remove my implants via my old inframammary fold scar, because fat would leak out of there. But what fat? Fat that he injected? If I was already going to expect at least one more surgery after this initial procedure, then why couldn't he have waited to inject fat around that area until a later date?
Dr. Khouri said he didn't want to make any incisions on my breast -- but that's laughable, since I already HAD scars there! What kind of a doctor would think it's ok to add TWO MORE scars--but not where they'd be hidden--rather, in PLAIN SIGHT?
I would expect a $20,000 surgery to give better results! Am I crazy for expecting this? How many of us lab rats have to be disfigured before the doctor gets it right? Huh? I'm demanding to know......You know, my husband is a surgeon. And when he was in residency, he and his colleagues practiced new techniques on a pig. A PIG, NOT a human!...
Look at me! Does this look like something you would want to have done to you?
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So sorry to read that you are still in so much pain and everything else that is going on. $20,000 is a SUPER lot of money to spend and to have a outcome like this. When you read other member's stories done by different doctors... I don't remember them having some of the things done to them like you did. I am sending you positive energy with the hope that most of this will turn around for you soon. I know that you have already been through a lot with your breast's and this is just very, very sad to read what you are going through right now. Sending you a soft hug!
Thank you for your kind words I felt the hug when I read your comment. I DID--Like a comfy pair of pink terry cloth bath slippers. I don't know why that image popped into my mind--I've never had slippers like those before.
Thank you for your update. I am also sorry to hear of your continued discomfort. I was going to suggest you pose some of your questions in the RealSelf Doctor Q&A but saw that your already did. Glad to see your question is in the queue and should be published soon. Your recent pictures explain a lot and are very helpful to the community. How are the grafted areas looking? Can you tell how much fat retention you have yet? I suppose it's still a bit early to tell.
My breasts size has decreased significantly--which I actually wanted. As a reminder, prior to surgery, I had 300cc implants and now I have 120cc implants, which were suppose to be temporary. Nonetheless, I am a whole cup simple bigger than I was before.....Great right? WRONG--women want their breasts to be aesthetically pleasing more than they want them to be big, honking jugs.....If you squint, then it appears my breast look better than they did before. But upon closer look, for example, like at the bottom of my cleavage, you can see weird dimples left by Dr. Khouri's stitched "alteration"....Here's an analogy--My breasts remind me of a prom or wedding dress that has been altered by a unskilled tailor. It looks good from afar. But upon close inspection, all the errors and mistakes compound into one big mess......At least I don't have that Dr. Khouri double-bubble-- i.e., where the breasts look like they have double chins. Who knows if that compression tape, which I've been wearing like a small, tight corset, nonstop for the past six weeks will be the keystone which finally turns Dr. Khouri's Frankenstein technique into a success. Perhaps it will. But I don't appreciate being one of his many guinea pigs to get him there.....And the sad thing is that I could put up with the pain, suffering, and oddly tailored breasts if Dr. Khouri had just made my incisions in the inconspicuous inframammary fold, where I already had a scar...I feel I have been misled and deceived.
:( you didn't deserve this ,nobody out there really understand's the pain cause they weren't used and abused, I just hope all can really sympathize!!!!! No other doctor has 5 people up on realself.com with such complaints, I had 2 people call me one cancelled their procedure and one made sure she wouldn't be a guinea pig back..mDr. khouri said to her oh I see you did your homework, she made him sign that he wouldn't do anything else but transfer fat!!!## there are good doctors out there, you will put up beautiful photos by another doctor in the future that's by blessing 2 you
Hang in there honey...we're all here for you. Just like Love Pink, I am also sending you positive energy!
Ugh, I am very sorry to hear of your horrible experience. I am sorry that you regret the surgery. But, this is not the normal recovery for this surgery. I hope you feel better soon. Please keep us posted. I hope women think twice about using Dr. Khouri after seeing all of the negative reviews. My heart goes out to you.
My surgery WASN'T the norm. Your was, and that's what we (the other Khouri complainers here on realself and I) wanted to have done. You were so smart to trust your instinct and go elsewhere. You avoided being unknowingly part of Dr. Khouri's theoretical experiment, which is, evidently, still in it's fetal stage.
This post is to Anotherview, I am not calling you a liar, but I do question some of the other reviews that have been posted about Dr. Khouri and his staff. MY POINT really is this…if you had a bad experience and your outcome from your surgery was far from what you expected. The last thing that I think that you or anyone would want, would be others writing to you telling you how wonderful your doctor is that messed up on you. What I am trying to say, is that maybe SOME could show a little compassion to Miamigirl and flat2Fab, instead of writing a sales ad for Dr Khouri. As I have stated before, anyone that has had surgery especially after breast cancer we all are happy that you had a positive experience. I am happy for all of our members that had successful surgeries. What I do find unbelievable is when others write to almost discredit someone that has not had a positive experience with a certain doctor. Some of what I am writing is not directed to you personally. BUT, I do find offense to what you wrote earlier: You said,
“I wouldn't spend a huge amount of money just to look good naked (well, maybe in my face and neck, which all see, but not my breasts, their main job is feeding babies, which they did quite well, and only my husband sees them), it just is not me. Don't get me wrong, I consider myself a very attractive woman, am thin, use makeup, dress well and so on, I just don't get the plastic breast thing.” So after reading that comment, I don't understand why you would belong to a plastic surgery site? I find your statement very unkind, I am sorry if that offends you but your statement offends me
Love pink, well said :))
where is the "like" button??
Ilove..., Thanks for joining in!
for sure :)
Oh I am so so sorry that you have been disfigured and in so much pain. you would have thought you were going to the expert in fat grafting. Wishing you to be free of pain xxxx
Thanx. I could accept the pain if I could erase those Frankenstein scars. :(





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