Post-op Surprises

I also have the same problem as you I am building the courage to write a bad review for Quiroz. As Donelle say "Quiroz has butchered several people".

Wow!! People get pretty worked up on here huh!! But I agree with you Mary...we should be supporting one another above all else. Either way, hang in there aish!! Looking forward to seeing new pics of your revisions!!!!!

I was not under the impression Real Self" is anyone's personal blog. I thought the site is intended to rate experiences with MDs. There was no intent not to be supportive to Aisia. My original point (if you go back and read it) was simply to state it was too soon after such major surgery to see the final results of the surgery. Getting revisions so soon after surgery should be given heavy and deep consideration.

I appreciate your supporting words!

Hi, Marie - The Recovery Boutique and wonderful nurses are great! They're happy to help however they can, and make you comfortable. If you ask, they'll even wash your hair for you (after the first few days, of course). If possible, get the room with the sliding doors to the little patio. And if you get there a day or so early, walk over to the little shopping mall. There's a Walmart, a great boutique, and a wonderful restaurant that has "Terra" in the name. The pizza is terrific! Do take some plain Hanes-type t-shirts to wear under the bra they supply. As has been mentioned by other women who've gone to CosMed for surgery, their pain meds aren't very strong, so take your own if you have any. This afternoon I had revisions done to the incisions under both arms and below my right breast. Local anesthesia, about an hour procedure. Monday the surgeon is going to take me to a clinic/spa that does massage, and show them how he wants them to massage the original incisions (and I'm to do it "all the time," too.) He used tiny sutures, and what a difference in appearance!!! Thank you for your words of support. I'm sure everything will go as well for you as it has for all his other patients! Looking forward to hearing about your great experience!

Thank you too for the extra information. I'm doing a lip lift, facial fat injections,laser to face and calf implants! I already did my breasts, I had a breast lift everything went great with that! So here goes round two. I'll keep you posted.

These photos are horrific and shocking. These are not the proper placements for breast lift scars of any accepted technique. Also the brutal rough suturing and skin flaps... I am at a loss. An actual butcher would be more precise. This "man" is a monster and must be stopped. What kind of medical training could this criminal possibly have? Just looking at your photos - - this is complete unchecked insanity.

Hi, Charlene - You're right about everything you wrote. The update I posted, which I don't know if you saw, was about the plastic surgeon's reaction when I showed him the photos. The revision was last Thursday, and OMG what a difference. Even so little time has passed, I almost can't see the incision on the right side. I had my first session at a medical clinic/spa and they used ultrasound and massage to soften the hard bulge below my tummy tuck incision. When the two women saw how far around that incision went, they said it seemed that the only reason it didn't go any farther was that he ran into the table. I just don't understand how some women can be so happy with the results while I feel as if I've been, as you say, butchered. I met two women when I was in the Recovery Boutique, and they're in worse shape than I am. The PS here said that I should send the skin he had to remove to Dr. Quiroz and include a note that he forgot some.

Hi Aishasolo, I feel for you I really do. Many many of us have been duped by butchers who only cared about a quick $. The positive reviews you read were most probably the work of "Dr." Quiroz's paid marketers writing fake positive reviews. I think that you need to take time to heal physically, mentally, and emotionally. When you are ready, please shout from the rooftops and post as widely as possible (RealSelf, MakeMeHeal, etc.) to warn other potential victims about Alejandro J. Quiroz, MD and CosMed. Certainly this sociopathic monster Quiroz could care less about the fact that he maimed a human being to make some dirty money - BUT his Mexican colleagues might just care that he has so sullied the profession in that country that any thinking person would run in fear at the risk of being brutally butchered as you were. When the lack of patients hits the other doctor's pocketbooks then this filthy Dr. Alejandro Quiroz might actually get some of the attention he deserves. He deserves to be publicly identified as a criminal and punished.

I just looked up a PS with this same name listed under Santa Ana, CA on ratemdscom. I think it is the same butcher since the two reviews sound just like your story. Please add your experience on this site as well. Warn other potential Quiroz and CosMed victims.

obviously that should say ratemds - dot - com (not sure if RealSelf allows web site addresses).

Charlene7, I think you might want to tone it down just a little bit. I went to Dr Quiroz and could not be happier with the results and I am NOT a 'paid marketer' as you have stated that most reviews probably are. When I was there, everyone seemed very happy with their results and I saw nothing that even remotely resembled what happened to Aishasolo. I would consider her experience to be the exception and not the rule. It sounds to me that you are more likely the one with a grudge against Dr Quiroz.

I have no grudge against "Dr." Quiroz as I don't know him from Adam. All I know about Quiroz, and all I need to know, are the photos posted on this review. This poor woman does not have one "exception to the rule" type of problem. For example, Quiroz didn't JUST stitch her up with skin tags resembling Frankenstein incision... Nor did he JUST cut around her breasts in some bizarre non-accepted method of breast lift pattern - as if he were just making it up on the fly... Nor did he JUST leave her with a freakishly wide and lumpy tummy tuck scar.... Nor did he JUST leave her with a belly-button that looks completely sickening. Any ONE of those would be isolated. Together it is a PATTERN of brutal butchery. If this did not happen to you, well then be grateful, thank your lucky stars, think but for the grace go I... But do not deny these disgusting photographs documenting the actions of a criminal. I should not "tone it down"! In fact, it should be shouted so much louder than I ever could that someone calling himself a healthcare provider did this to an innocent woman. And you may be an actual non-paid patient. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Guess what? In medicine that is not good enough! Look at the photos. Look at the photos. Look at the photos. That is all there is to say.

Charlene7-it is difficult to take your slanderous comments seriously. I m not a "paid" marketing consultant and have the surgeries and bills to prove it! Your comments are out of line and do not really serve any value, because you have no experience with CosMed or Dr. Quiroz. I am surprised RealSelf would allow such ranting and slanderous post from someone who has NO experience with Dr. Quiroz

RealSelf allows people to comment on photos. The photos don't lie. Slander is when something is not true. Photos = True. Get a clue. As I said, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Satisfied patient? Then count your lucky stars woman! This poor patient whose thread you are jumping on is suffering physically, mentally, financially, and is permanently disfigured.

Soldonmexico and anyone else claiming to be an actual satisfied patient. Why deny someone else's truth. Why not spend time posting your OWN review of Quiroz's work - - WITH B/A PHOTOS! That is all that matters. Let's see Quiroz amazing work. We've certainly seen his butchery. Put up or shut up.

Bottom line - you made false and slanderous allegations against those of us who had POSITIVE experiences with Dr. Quiroz by labeling us as "paid" marketing consultants, which is why I am SHOUTING FROM THE MOUNTAIN TOP --- I AM NOT PAID and am VERY HAPPY after 3 successful surgeries. I object to your accusations without having any personal experience with this doctor. I am sympathetic to anyone whose surgery did not turn out as expected. The actual "Victim", as you describe her, has given more constructive comments than you who has NO experience with the doctor.

Go look at mine. I have a ton of picures up....from start to finish.http://www.realself.com/review/cosmed-tijuana-mexico-mommy-makeover-the-breasts Where are yours?

I find it so odd that you are so vocal yet don't have any photos up yourself.

Yes, with just a quick Internet search I see what appear to be "fake" positive reviews posted for Quiroz. Not EVERY review would be fake. You are the lucky one. Take your winnings and be happy. This woman suffered grave harm at the hands of an obvious butcher - based on the photos. Occasionally doing a good job is NOT good enough in MEDICINE. Put up your photos and prove your good results Soldonmexico. Prove you are happy. Shout from the mountain top about your great results by POSTING YOUR B/A PHOTOS! Or if you cannot, then shut it. Why exactly can you not post your own photos???

These are within the range of normalcy. Not ideal, but not bad. You are very lucky. Count your winnings and that you took a huge risk and won. This woman lost.

As I said, I have never been a patient of Dr. Quiroz, so I personally have no photos posted that are relevant. I have zero personal connection to the person who chopped up aishasolo. I'm "so vocal" about these crime photos that aishasolo posted.

You are way too into this doctor to be an innocent bystander. You must have an alternative reason to be attacking Dr Quiroz. Oh, and you think mine is 'not bad'? RealSelf.com doesn't agree with you. They actually contacted me and interviewed me. Here's the article: http://on.realself.com/mommy-makeover-mexico-real-story/ I believe that YOU are a phony and maybe YOU are a doctor in Mexico trying to smear Dr Quiroz' name. Again, to Aishasolo, so sorry that you've had such a hard time. If you look through my photos, you will notice that early on, I had lots of tight stitches and weird folds. I found out later that they really do flatten out, it just takes a while to do that. You mentioned that you had a lot of extra skin, could that be why it did that? Hopefully everything will heal up soon and you will look perfect. Best of luck!

Kat-good assessment on the absurdly negative feedback. The ranting does sound like a phoney with an axe to grind in order to smear Dr. Quiroz, or just someone who is out of touch with reality by making such bizzare and totally out of line comments.

Charlene7-out of curiosity, have you ever had plastic surgery? If yes, when and where? Please post your before and after photos so we can understand your experience and vast knowledge about the healing process and how a surgery should turn out in a less than 6 month period of time,

Yes Charlene, everything on the Internet is true...Yea right!

I want to apologize to aishasolo that I made the mistake of allowing a couple of bullies/mean girls to taunt me into participating in a hijacking of her review thread when I only meant to respond to aishasolo's photos and reported experience. This thread is by aishasolo and about aishasolo. Others can write about their personal experience on their own review threads, as can I (although as I said mine would not be about Dr. Quiroz as I don't know him at all). This is aishasolo's thread exclusively about her experience. Aishasolo is suffering now and needs support. Her reality needs to be affirmed. (Two clarifications: I am an "innocent bystander," but I'm the type of bystander who jumps in when I see injustice. If I were on the TV show "What would you do?" I'd be the one who steps in and intervenes, not the majority that keep their eyes down and their mouths closed. Second, when scanning the internet for any "fake reviews" of docs, it is pretty easy to see those that are written by a "fake patient" who has no history of other posts and especially when there are multiple reviews by people who have all posted just the one time and they all sound like they are written by the same person with the same sentence structure, gushing positivity, multiple exclamation points, etc. Even the worst docs in the world have some happy patients. Unfortunately, occasional success is not good enough when you are working on the human body.)

I have sent several people who have inquired my photos. I do not publish photos, because I hold a public position. At this point you come across as bizarre and vindictive and you scare me. Where are your photos? Did you EVER have a surgery? Talk about your experience. You hijacked the blog with your spit and venom. This is my last message to you Charlene7. You are spiteful and mean spirited. You act as prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner without ever meeting the defendant. Scary.

Hi, Charlene - Thank you for telling me about ratemdscom. Below is the response I posted to one of the two reviews. I wrote just as much in response to the other review, but forgot to copy so I could paste it here. I feel so bad about what happened to the other two women, and the two friends I made at CosMed. "When I first read the words, "inconsistent with his results," I thought that was too kind. But yes, I did get lucky and now have even, nicely shaped breasts. However, he did what he called a "crescent lift" so skin wouldn't bulge over my bra strap in the back, and that scar goes all the way into my arm pits. The scar from my tummy tuck is horrid and irregular, and goes over halfway around my sides. And I'm not a large woman who had to have lots of fat removed - just skin. When Dr. Quiroz made the incision, he severed sensory nerves in my right leg. The pain was terrible for the first two months, but now my thigh is just numb. I don't know if this will ever go away. The doctor who performed the revisions to the incisions on both sides of my breasts (and under one breast) almost fell out of his chair when he saw the photos. (I've received similar shocked responses from women on RealSelf). Oh, and I didn't mention how bizarre and ugly he left my "new" belly button. I'll have that fixed in October. I hope the reviews of Dr. Quiroz help other women avoid what I and these other two reviewers have experienced."

Kat - Charlene probably let her "upsetness" get her carried away when she mentioned "paid marketers," and I'm truly glad that you had such a good experience. However, I can guarantee that if she does have a grudge against Dr. Quiroz because of what he did to her, she isn't alone. I don't happen to be the kind of person who can sustain a grudge, per se, but I have proof that he did REALLY HORRIBLE, unwarranted damage to my body. In my opinion, even if ten women rave about how good a doctor is, if over half that many have horror stories, that's enough for someone to think long and hard about going to that doctor. Maybe you and the other women with positive results got lucky, rather than those of us who had very bad results got unlucky. He's got to do a good job on women every now and then just to keep hooking us in. Check out the two reviews at ratemdsdotcom. Their stories are even worse than mine.

Amen, Charlene - unfortunately, I didn't read this till after I wrote my response to Kat. I apologize for what I wrote about your "paid marketer" comment. Reading your outrage on my behalf - well, all I can say is thank you for expressing the stark reality so well. Now that I think about it, it does anger me (to put it nicely) that other comments here are dismissive of what happened to me and other women. I tried to make that point in my other comment, but you did a much better job of it!!