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Pearl Fractional Ruined my Face - Manitoba, MB

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1 year post

Improvement with laser damage

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Alright folks, it's been a while since I've updated. I'd like to post some pics and I'll let you be the judge. I've seen a lot of improvement with my laser damage. I want to state that I was 30 when I first had this procedure and I'm 32 now. I've also seen improvement with just other imperfections as well. My creases between my eyes also became worse, my skin clearly lost collagen and became more lax, I want you to be aware that I did have the furrows before hand but not to this degree. Of course you can see the laser holes which appear to be very large pores and just sandpapery and un uniformed type skin. I also had huge creases/hollows under my eyes, this was not due to laser. And if you have seen in other pics, I do have indentation or rolling scars on forehead due to old acne. As you can see in this new picture I took today. All of these issues appear so much better. I do apologize for the different lighting.

I owe the improvement with tighter skin and furrows to Botox. I owe the improvement with tight skin, laser holes, un uniformed textured skin and rolling scars to dermarolling. I owe the decrease in eye hollows also to dermarolling and stamping. I also use banish acne Vit C serum after I roll. I use own doc.com's Vit c powder mixed with water every day. I also do tca peels one every 4 mths or so. I take vitamins, I use gentle cleansers. And I also recently started using manuka honey. The indentation do revert back to a degree so you do have to keep up with the dermarolling, I'm not sure how much is permanent. But having a downtime wknd once every few weeks to do a roll is so much better than hiding yourself from the world every single day. I can now live my life. So there is hope folks, at least to some degree. I wish all of you so much luck. Take care and I hope everybody has a wonderful new year.

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January 21, 2016
I think you had a great deal of success with needling and peels... Congrats and enjoy your improvement :)
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January 23, 2016
Thank you very much. I can't quite give a proper guess of how much improvement, but I'd say at least 35%. And you're darn right I'm enjoying it, I definitely do not take think for granted as easily anymore. I'm wondering if I should start a whole new review, as I feel this update may be getting lost in the feed updates. I'd like more ppl to see so they know there may be hope. Hmm anyways thanks for your feed back
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January 23, 2016
Sorry, and congrats on your wedding!!! :)
February 4, 2016
Hi I have rolling scars that i'm trying to improve as well and was thinking about dermarolling. You say that the "indentations" revert back? Are you saying the rolling scars do or other indentations? Some people say that microneedling gives you microswelling and that's what can be attributed to any recovery the skin has and is often temporary. If you were to stop do you think your skin would go back to how it was? I really dont want to roll for the rest of my life if at all possible. Id like to know if microneedling has a permanent healing effect on rolling scars?
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February 10, 2016
I think some of the improvement is permanent and some may be microswelling. As to what degree both attribute to the improvement, I have no idea. But as you can clearly see I've had an overall improvent of everything, the entire surface. I've been rolling for a long long time. If it's something you're considering, you have to be prepared to be very patient, it sounds like it's something you're already not thrilled about doing. If you want any real success I'd say at least a years worth of rolling. Of course no one wants to do this at all, and definitely not forever. But considering the alternative, it's better than being incredibly unhappy if your issues bother you that much. I wish you luck
February 11, 2016
Thanks for your generous response Chapters. Could you possibly tell me what length roller do you use on depressed scarring and how often you roll? Thanks for all your help!
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February 12, 2016
Of course, you're welcome. I use 1mm roller and 0.75 stamp. I roll twice per mth, 1 strong roll and 1 light roll. I stamp the rolling scars then roll. I apply banish acne scar vit.c serum right after. Feel free to ask any other questions. It doesn't feel pleasant. The more often you do it the more used to that feeling it becomes. I don't bleed like some of those ppl do. I usually have a handful of pin point bleeding but not much really.
January 27, 2017
Thanks for posting all of this! I had the same experience with pixel laser! Grid marks still visible THREE YEARS after I had the procedure. Half the time I want to cry. Thanks for posting all of this. I'm prego right now but plan to go on retin a as soon as I can after the baby.
February 18, 2017
I'm really happy for you! I'm struggling with damage on my cheeks from the vbeam laser. Super depressed about it, but you gave me hope!:')
January 3, 2018
I don't know if anyone is still monitoring this thread. I am so glad I happened upon this. I was looking into this procedure. I am no longer going to explore this as an option. However, I wanted to share info about a product I use by Cli ni que skincare that I use to partially "fill in" pock marks scars I have from acne as a teenager. It's called pore refining instant perfector invisible light. It's amazing. It's not perfect, but it makes me feel 100% better. After washing my face each morning, I use this product. I jokingly call it "pore spackle" because it seems to fill in the holes I have in my skin to a good degree. It also seems to really help control my terribly oily skin during the day. The only issue is, it's hard to get off at night. I have to use a cleansing oil made with a base of olive oil by D H C. It dissolves makeup and this pore minimizing "spackle" in just a minute or two. Then I wash my face at night. I hope this helps if anyone wants to try it for their scars. It's my holy grail product for my scarred skin. I could attempt to take some before/after photos of my skin when I use this!
UPDATED FROM Chapters
1 year post

14 mths post Pearl fractional mistake

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Hello all, thought I would do a review and post a picture. So I'm still seeing slight improvement. I changed my routine a bit. I'm now dermarolling and putting a vit.c solution on right after. And always after I wash, I put the solution on. After the dermaroing and stings pretty bad, prob not great to be creating extra inflammation, but it's working. Since my last post I feel I see maybe between 3-5% improvement. It's slow, but there is a difference. It's seems to be helping the over all texture. I can still see the laser holes, but they are a little better. Also, I have something to report. I started using nizoral as a face wash for acne. It's an anti fungal shampoo. I'm still trying to figure out what is causing my acne. So I went on the anti candida diet, lifting sugar and gluten and dairy, and I washed with this shampoo, and I didn't get one zit for a whole week until I ate some cheese pizza. And this is off the birth control and off of the minocyclin. Also, it's helping with my oily skin, apparently it has an anti androgen effect to it. So anyways, hope everyone is doing well, and I'll let you be the judge if there is a difference in texture compared to old photos.

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August 21, 2015
Thanks chapters. Someone mentioned they thought their pimples could be due to ingrown hairs from laser damage inferring with their growth. Not sure?
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August 22, 2015
I'm sure that could happen as well. For myself that shouldn't be the case as I'm a woman and my hair is fairly fine on my face, but you never know. So far it looks like yeast and dairy may be the culprits for myself. Sad because I love cheese, but I would rather not be put on medication again for the acne.
August 30, 2015
I've heard this theory as well.
August 21, 2015
You are definitely improving! Hooray!! My theory is that post laser damage breakouts are caused due to the skin barrier being compromised. This would cause an increased risk for fungal, bacterial, and viral infections. I think it's probable that people with laser damage have ongoing low-grade infections, that they don't even realize they have. (I also think there's low level scarring, inflammation and devascularization.) I am not surprised that anti-fungal shampoo and diet restrictions are helping your skin. I use manuka honey and castor oil to stave off any possible infections and inflammation. Your healing is way more significant than 3-5%!!!
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August 22, 2015
I definitely agree with you, with all the stories I've read, it severely compromised this barrier. Then oddly enough, it does miracles for others, I can't quite figure out why this happens yet, but I know for sure there should be some kind of test you you need to pass before anyone should take you on as a client for these types of procedures. And set for the confusion, I felt I saw an improvement since my post two mths ago, last time since I've posted a pic, prob a good 15-20 percent improvement. It takes a while, but positive changes can happen. Thanks for your comment
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August 22, 2015

Thank you for your update, glad that you're seeing improvement and sounds like you found out what triggers your acne. I am a big believer that diet does influence acne, especially diary and sugar. 

I thought I would share this video with you: 

http://www.realself.com/video/dr-whitney-bowe-disc...: <rs-video-player video='{"id":"416","external_id":"3405640858001","uri":"video\/dr-whitney-bowe-discusses-diet-and-acne-dr-whitney-bowe"}'></rs-video-player>

Also, just so that you're aware we have an entire community dedicated to Derma Rolling if you want to join in and share your experience so far,  here is a link for you. 

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August 22, 2015
Thanks Eva G
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August 23, 2015

You're welcome!

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September 22, 2015

Thanks for the update, so glad to hear that you're seeing some improvement in your skin. What size dermaroller are you using?

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September 22, 2015
Thanks Eva :) I'm using a 0.75 dermaroller and 1mm stamp. I'm not sure if we're allowed to name companies. But I just purchased the vitamin C serum from banishacnescars.com. It's a specific serum, containing different organic ingredients, I'm sure I'll receive it in a couple weeks. I didn't feel my current vit.C serum was working as much as I had hoped and it was a bit harsh on the skin. So I'll continue my regimen. If I see greater improvement with this serum I will do another post.
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September 24, 2015

Thanks for you reply, you can share product information so long as you're not promoting it. :) 

Be sure to keep us posted on your progress. 

UPDATED FROM Chapters
1 year post

One year post laser resurfacing mistake

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Sry all, I've been away from this site for quite some time. Just a little bit of advice, a break is necessary, this site is so beneficial and I do owe a lot to it and all it's members, however if you're not careful it can consume you a bit. I apologize to those who may have msged me with out any response, I don't check my email often. That being said, how am I doing, and have I seen improvement?

I've definitely seen improvement, in no way am I back to how I was originally, but things are slowly coming along. I'd say since about one mth post, till now, I've seen roughly a 40% improvement, give or take a bit. I've seen the most improvement since a bit after 6 mths till now. I started a new routine. I researched many sites, listened to many stories etc, and this is the route I went. I started retin A again, the mildest dose, I went on birth control for acne, it may have helped my pores somewhat. Then I started seeing my old aesthetician, she did a glycolic peel on my problem areas and followed it with a treatment of laser genesis. Look into it, it's not like the other lasers we've done. She's amazing, she did both these treatments together for around $55. I did this monthly for the last 5 mths, and in between sessions, I would do one dermaroller session myself, and I'd dermastamp the worse areas. A little note, I never bled, I did light pressure, just enough to have my following products absorb. Immediately after I would put the 0.5% retin a on, it's one step stronger then my regular one. I'd leave it on for roughly one hour, wash off, then apply a copper peptide serum. I also learned in this time that moisturizers tended to cause my skin to be more oily. I switched to only serums two mths ago. And started applying my vit.c serum every night before bed. I recently started applying a hyaluronic acid serum for under my makeup as well. I also use my weaker retin a about 1-2 times per week, minus the one week after that I would dermarole. I also still take vitamins daily, a multi, vit.c and zinc. Aside from that, that's it. I'd say this new regimen is what has helped the most. I still wear my hat every day, even to work. It's kind of sad, I do feel a lot more confident, but I still feel that fear within that were all known too. My next step to bump it up a bit, is next week I'm doing a TCA peel, only a 12.5% one, they go a little deeper and you get a better peel vs. a glycolic, which I feel is very comparable to retin a. I can also tell the improvement because my original issue is becoming more apparent, what I'm starting to focus on a bit more. My original issue was two things, rolling scars on my forehead, weather being missing tissue or loss of fat. And some ice pick scars and large pores. At the end of July I have an appt to get filler done for the rolling scars, I really hope that helps, in certain light it looks terrible, which is why I opted for the pearl fractional in the first place.

So in conclusion. I have seen an improvement, still not where I'd like it to be. I'm still going to continue the dermarolling once per mth with retin a. I have to take a break possibly for the summer for the treatments with aesthetician, with the tca peel and filler I should just let that heal. I'm hoping by September I'll feel confident enough to finally walk outside without a hat, and feel free!!

On a side note, I'm at a loss for acne, I had everything under control for years, and a week and a half ago I just broke out, I don't recall ever having it this bad, my dermatologist is on vacation for two mths, I'm out of minocyclin, and my birth control doesn't seem to be helping anymore, also, the birth control has left me with zero sex drive, so I'm waiting to see what can be done about this. Not sure what do do in the meantime. Oh and one other thing folks, pls be so careful when trying new vitamins, herbs, whatever it may be. I tried a digestive enzime ph balance pill from gnc, I do think they're a good company. However, I had a pretty severe allergic reaction to the pill. Not anaphylactic, but I woke up at night in a panic, my entire body had a burning sensation from head to toe, I had tomato coloured splotches from head to toe, and the back of my neck and ears started to swell up. It was terrifying. So pls, be cautious with anything new you try. Anyways, good luck to you all, and pls comment, I'll be looking at my email fir a while :)

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June 27, 2015
wow, what a journey, I'm so sorry!!! Have you had hyper or hypo-pigmentation too?
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June 27, 2015
Thank you. I did have hyper pigmentation for the first 2-3 mths. It's ok now in regards to that, however the skin where the laser went, is now very sensitive, even the lightest rub leaves a red mark.
June 27, 2015
I'm glad you are seeing improvement. I just sent you a PM about tca peels.
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June 27, 2015
Thank you very much, for some reason I didn't receive your PM
June 27, 2015
I just had a tca peel to help repair some of my damage and wanted to share my experience with you via PM.
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June 27, 2015
I just looked at your page, thank you. And yes, that's the exact same study I found which guided me towards this route I went down. However my treatments were much less aggressive then the monthly tca peels and dermarolling sessions that they had. But you can see their dramatic improvements. And I can say, that even with my less invasive approach, I still saw results, however I'm slowly trying to bump it up with now adding the mild tca peels instead of glycolic peels. Thank you for posting that!! I'd love to hear how it turns out for you, unfortunately I'm not receiving private messages for some odd reason.
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June 27, 2015
I'm sry this happened to you too, I really hope you will see some improvement, if you haven't tried dermarolling, then check into it. I can share a more detailed experience that I had with that part of it if you would like.
June 27, 2015
Yes if you could share a more detailed experience with dermarolling, I would really appreciate it! I have only done a small test patch so far with dermarolling (I actually did the dermapen) and it went really well. I would love to here more specifics of how it went for you.
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June 27, 2015
I'll try to PM you, if you don't receive it today, then let me know
July 28, 2015
Hey, glad to hear you are seeing improvements. I was just wondering who your aesthetician is that is doing your chemical peels? I have been wanting to get it done but most places run over $100 for a chemical Peel.
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January 21, 2016
Sry I didn't realize I had not replied. I've been doing my own tca peels at home at 12.5 %, I just apply more if needed. I feel it's safer this way. 12.5 is a very low dose. They're from the company Muac and they have a good reputation. DO NOT purchase tca peels from an un reputable company, the consistency and ingredients may not be what it specifies. It was $35 perhaps, I can't remember, but it lasted for 3 uses. Hope this helps :)
February 15, 2017
You should try Oracea for the acne.