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Phenol Peel for Acne Scars - Mainz, Germany

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At first i have to apologize for my bad english,...

Crowly
$1,500
At first i have to apologize for my bad english, because i am not a native speaker.

I wanted to do a phenol peel to get rid of my acne scars. I found a docotor from Mainz that has a second office in my hometowm, so i decided to let him perfom the peel. He prepared my skin with azeton and applied the peel. I was under light anesthesia, so i can not remember very much. It was very unprofessional because the peel trickled behind my ear lobs plus he gave me a hair-dryer on my hand to cool my skin. As the peel was done, i went home with my dad and the drama started to begin. I had no clue what to apply because the doctor gave me a cream called terproline egf but that's no wound healing creme or ointment for the peel process. So i decided to look up the internet and i found out that i can apply avene cicalfate. As the peeling process was done after 2 horrible weeks i had this weird raised textured areas plus all my scars and wrinkles came back to it's original state. I went to my doctors office and he said that is no sarring and normal and for the scars he can do a second peel. I asked him if he did the right peel and he said he did a croton oil peel but not as deep. I asked him why i would pay for a peel that i did not get and he said we can do a second peel with tca to get better results. I asked him again if this areas are scars and if it is safe to peel again. He said this are no scars and it's safe to do another peel. I did the second peel and it was the same procedure. The solution trickled behind my earlobs and it was a mess. I peeled 2 weeks again and the red raised areas are still there plus my skin is still the same. I have my forhead wirnkles as deep as i had it befor and my scars are as deep as before. Also i clearly can see that the peel did not went even in the skin. Normaly, my skin should be red all over.

I am so depressed because i don't know what to do now. Maybe it is just a healing process or an allergic reaction. But it does not matter if it is a allergic reaction or not, because i dont want to pay just for a damaged skin without any improvement. If i would have 80% better skin i would think different. I have ZERO improvent PLUS i have to live with the risks of a deep peel now. This is a joke. I found out that the peel is not allowed in germany. I guess that is because the peel is so aggresive and can damage all your skin. If someone can explain me if this is just a healing process or maybe scars forming from the peel, please comment.

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He didn't seem really trained to do this peel. Also he didn't want to prepare the skin for the peel and i really didn't know what to use as a aftercare cream. I had to look it up myself on the internet. I asked him what scars i have, just to test him if he knows what he is doing, and his answers was " you have just scars" . I wanted him to explain if i have boxcars, icepicks or rolling scars and i he did not know what i mean. If i had problems and wanted to conact him, i had to send a picture over whatsapp!!! He didnot answer it so i wanted to see him in person, but the staff said i have to wait one week for a consultation. So i went to my dermatologist but he did not know what to do. My impression is he just want to get as much money as possible . He dont cares about the patient as long as he get his money. I found out that he has a lawsuit going on because a woman is in koma now.

Replies (10)

March 19, 2015
Hello honey you poor girl I feel sad for all u have been through ! I'm also thinking of having deep phenol peel , after having laser resurfacing and Botox fillers etc my Doc now tells me what I really need is a deep phenol peel something he can't do , but now I'm 4 thousand English pounds out of pocket . my thoughts are with you take care
March 19, 2015
Do i look like a girl? lol . Did you have the peel yet? What kind of laser did you have and for what reason? Also acne scarring?
March 23, 2015
I immediately thought what was Crowly talking about. No you don't look like a girl!!! Maybe you could ask the doctors some questions about your peel in the Q&A section. They can be very helpful and make suggestions. I'd post some current photos too when you ask.
March 23, 2015
Correction. Not crowly, bebodeeruxo.
March 25, 2015
I have still deep red skin areas. I use tretinoin cream since 4 days but it wont get better i think.
April 25, 2015
How are u healing as it's been about 6 weeks since your post? Thanks for any updates
April 26, 2015
My whole face is scarred. I have slight hypertrophic scarring an my nose, jawline, cheeks as you can see in one of my pictures. I changed the physician to get a second opinion. He is a dermatologist in munich who is well known by the celebretys and rich people in munich. He said the doc did the peel to deep and he should have treated me with steroid creams right after the peel because my skin was to red and raised. He prescribed me a mixed steroid cream with antibiotics for 2 weeks. On my appointment yesterday, he said i should stop the sterioid cream now. It's a bit better now but i guess i have to undergo some laser treatments to remove the scar textures. He prescribed me dermatix ultra scar gel and a erythromecin based cream for the next 4 weeks. It's paradox because my acne scars have improoved alot since the last weeks and my skin is really tight. But now i have to deal with another problem...
April 26, 2015
When my doctor does a phenol peel it is "very" deep. Sedation is moderate as it is painful. Even with this deep peel I have heard him say 50% acne scar improvement. Scars are very deep. It is most awesome for wrinkles. What percent t a is he going to use?? Not sure if that is scarring or just healing. Hope you heal evenly and that is not scarring. Good luck..
April 27, 2015
It is scarring and i know that a phenol peel is very deep. That is the reason why he should have bandaged me and give me good aftercare. He did nothing and i don't know why. I guess he is an ashole and just wants the money. I tried to contact him and say that i am scarred now because he did no aftercare. I was talking to him since the first day i found out this could be scarring and he just kept saying i am not patient enough and it's all good. He did not know if this is scarring because he is not trained enough to do peels. But instead of saying it to me he did a second peel and this made all things worse except my scars. My scars are 80% better now and my face is tight and i have a different faceshape because the skin on my jawline is so tight. But i have to struggle with the scars from the peel now... One thing is gone the other thing is coming.
November 29, 2017
The cream the Dr gave you IS for using after peels. It makes the skin regenerate and create new skin fibers. It's excellent for scarring and healing. Do what the Dr says unless you're a Dr yourself.
UPDATED FROM Crowly
5 months post

Still scarring...

Crowly
Just wanted to let you know that I'm still suffering from scarring or whatever I should call it. My redness is mostly gone but I still have big areas that look like I might get hypertrophic scarring. No Doctor can help me. One says this is old acne scarring ( def. not! ) and the other says it's scarring blah blah. They just try do prescribe me stuff and the more medication I take, the more my skin gets worse.

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July 1, 2015
A treatment called micro needling has had positive reviews for acne scarring. Usually 3 treatments are done 6 weeks apart . This is not as aggressive as deep peels. Look up this procedure online and see if you feel it is something that can help. Best wishes!
July 16, 2015
July 16, 2015
July 16, 2015
Do you even know the strength of the peel? Superficial peels are going to get rid of anything but discoloration.
August 21, 2015
Already to beware this. I did a 25% phenol peel over a decade ago. I had no anesthesia, but I was strapped down as a nurse held. Fan to my face and said it would feel like red ants biting my face. I had severe sun damage from living in the tropics. I stayed inside all day til sun went down. Initially, I was very scared as my dark spots became darker. On the 4th day, the skin broke apart like a dehydrated desert and as the skin peeled off over the next 3 days, I was left with the most gorgeous pink fresh baby butt skin ever. I will do this again soon, it's been over a decade. I went to Dr. Robert Peterson in Honolulu, on Oahu. He is truly AMAZING. I am thinking you had a bad dr, and bad aftercare.
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October 15, 2015
I don't think phenol peels are used that much in the United States if at all. I was going to get one about 20 years ago and my plastic surgeon begged me not to. He said he was having to correct a lot of these with the laser. Mostly popular peel here is the TCA. I had my first done at 15% and was awake. Second one was 35% along with the CO2 laser and I was under IV sedaton.
January 15, 2016
I'll also suggest micro needling ( called also skin rolling) I've used it to get rid of or significantly improve some deeps scars and it has been very ineffective.
UPDATED FROM Crowly
1 year post

Update July 2016

Crowly
Just wanted to give you guys a quick update. A lot has changed in my life which made me forget about my skin. I will be moving to the US in September to be with the love of my life! Anyways, my skin didn't heal. I still have the scarring from the peel plus some spots with hyperpigmentation. I tried micro needling as some of you guys suggested about a year ago and it improved my acne scarring drastically! I will definitely do a couple more seedlings because I hope it will improve the scarring from the peel as well. That said, I will never ever do something like this again! Whether it be a laser or a peel, I will give it a wide berth! If anyone lives in California and wants to see my skin in person, just message me and I'll give you my phone number and we can catch up somewhere.

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August 3, 2016
So happy you will be moving to California with the love of your life wish you all the happiness in the world. So sad you didn't get the results you were looking for:(.
August 27, 2016
Hallo...Ich kann leider nicht so gut englisch. Komme aus der Schweiz.Ich wollte dich fragen ob du mit dem Phenol Peeling zufrieden warst?Ich möchte auch die Behandlung durchführen lassen bei einem Dermatologen. Wäre sehr lieb von dir wenn du mir zurück schreiben könntest..Lg Claudia
December 1, 2016
What kind of microneedling did you get? Was it infini?
December 1, 2016
I hope you find a good doctor in California. Good luck!
June 6, 2020
Hello! Hope you're still active on here. Do you happen to have the contact information for your doctor? I'm trying to resurface my face from acne scars and long standing hyperpigmentation/permanent tan
December 12, 2021
Hey I have a different account now. I can't recover my old account. I'm being treated by doctor Jason Emer in West Hollywood. We did a couple Halo/CO2 combination treatments. My skin has improved but if I'm being critical under harsh lighting I can still see the spots from the Phenol peel. They have improved, though. I think it's raised scar tissue. It'll take a lot more laser treatments to flatten it out completely. I've heard of a doctor in San Diego who does a 2 day Phenol peel. I might consider it. His results are amazing. His name is Dr. Rullan. But it's very expensive ($6000).