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32 Y/o Male. Forehead Reduction, Brow Lift and Brow Bone Shaving (Contouring). - Macclesfield, UK

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22 days post

Strange indent in the centre of my head in the middle of my hairline. Anyone know what this is...?

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Brian Musgrove, MBChB, BDS, FDSRCS, FRCS

Brian Musgrove, MBChB, BDS, FDSRCS, FRCS

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February 25, 2016
I'm really sorry this happened to you. Can you travel to the US at some point in the future? The best plastic surgeon specialize in this surgery are in California I'm sure you will get excel results then. Dr Aharonov and Dr Kabaker are the best for this surgery.
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February 25, 2016
Dr. Epstien in Miami has some really good results and specializes in this surgery also.
February 25, 2016
That's good to know!
February 25, 2016
I'm actually in LA in 2 months but for a holiday. The costs of flights and accommodation whilst I recover would be too much, as well as the surgery cost on top. Although I do agree with you. The best surgeons seem to be in California
February 25, 2016
Dr. Mayer worked on me, he has a great technique!
March 17, 2016
You can recover in England. I'm going for 3 days in a budget hotel then I will fly back to England and get a nurse to take out my stitches
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February 25, 2016
Just want to say I'm sorry you had to deal with this mess. I've been following and reading as many reviews as I can find on this procedure as well and your expectations are perfectly reasonable and should have easily been met. I hope you can recover something from your surgeon as he did not do what you paid him to do. Above all though, I wish you the best with your health and your happiness and I want to encourage you to stay positive for yourself and your future wife.
February 25, 2016
Thank you so much!
February 25, 2016
I would continue to remain patient, mine is still not perfect and I have a little indent left, which should gradually go away as this skin stretches. Even for my hairline, hair continues to grow around the incision and hopefully masking the scar (im at 6weeks). I would wait a few months before putting yourself through stress. I would go back to your PS and address all your concerns to him. He should be able to explain your healing process and why he wasn't able to lower your hairline to your expectations.
February 29, 2016
Thank you for your comment
February 29, 2016
Really sorry this happened to you. There are going to be multiple issues to consider with your revision surgery and I think you need to find out what your options are - especially how much skin redundancy and/or tension accounts for those rides. Try emailing Dr van der Dussen in Belgium or Toby Mayer in the United States - both of those doctors do that type of surgery a lot for FFS patients among others. I have no idea if they're "good" if you know what I mean but it'd be a decent starting point for you.

One last thing: I would not go back to your original doctor for a revision, no matter how tempting that might be. It's really important you find someone with experience in this particular surgery.
February 29, 2016
I had mine done by Dr. Vogel in the Baltimore area. He is excellent.
March 13, 2016
You had hairline lowering?? How much was the cost??
UPDATED FROM tjacko
21 days post

Before and after photos

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Ok, so i have merged 2 photos perfectly next to each other, left being before, and right being after surgery.
I think my hairline is worst now, as my fiancé says it looks like the surgeon has cut my hairline in to my hair, instead of along it, which I didn't notice until looking at photos, but it seems like he has!
So upsetting. I have written a letter which i will post off tomorrow. I want my money back and to go with a different surgeon who has been recommended to me.
Let me now what you guys think

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February 24, 2016
I think maybe your expectations were a bit high. I am 99.9% certain that the surgeon will not refund your money. I think the best you can hope for is that he may offer another surgery with him without charge. However you will still have to pay the hospital/surgical center costs etc. sorry you didn't get the results you hoped for.
February 24, 2016
I know my expectations arnt too high. You just have to look at other reviews for the same procedure on here to notice the average amount of reduction.
High expectations would be if i wanted something like 4cm. But as you can tell from the photos, he hasn't done a single millimetre.
I hadn't discovered realself before, but I wish I did. I have checked the reviews of my surgeon and one of people who left a review, got his money back, so I have hope.
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February 24, 2016
I really hope you get your money back! But I thank you for putting your results out there for us all to see as it won't do the surgeon any good. I certainly won't be using him and any other person who reads this won't for any other procedure either I would imagine :(
February 24, 2016
Thank you Tara!
February 29, 2016
I think your expectations might be too low!
February 24, 2016
Sorry but I don't want to lie, if u have forehead reduction I don't see it, if I was u I expect more offcourse,if someone said ur expectations too high just say them [RS bleep] off, I totally understand you!!!, btw u have dent line in ur middle forehead , is something happened ?
February 25, 2016
I don't understand why the previous commenter said I had high expectations either.
February 24, 2016
Expectations?? Yeah i WOULD EXPECT to see RESUlTS!!! I see no visible change :( i would be upset too! #refund$$$
February 25, 2016
I know, expectations.?? I don't know why the previous commenter put that, especially as I have zero results. Hopefully I'll get my money back. Thank you
February 25, 2016
I think many of us on this website can relate to how you feel.
You are not alone. No one wants to pay again to have something done right that should have been done right to begin with.
One thing to learn from this experience (mine included), doctors will always say they can do it, and they will always take your money.
You probably will not get it back because he would be admitting fault. They only way out is to go forward. It's a very expensive lesson, both financially and emotionally.
I'm sorry for you. I think you look good, but I see that you were not given what you paid for. God bless and good luck!
February 26, 2016
Have you ever heard of Ehlers Danlos syndrome? One of the most common symtom is hyper stretchy skin. I would Google this and see if you have this. If so you will need to use only a PS that is familiar with it. I could see why a forehead reduction would not work unless the PS is highly skilled and did his homework ahead of time.
UPDATED FROM tjacko
20 days post

3 week update

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Face swelling has gone now, as have the black eyes.
Not too sure why i had to specifically go back to the hospital just to get my sutures removed when my GP could have done it. It was over 4 hours driving there and back.
I completely regret having my surgery. Such an unhappy experience and after speaking with someone else who contacted another surgeon for me, it seems my surgery has not been done properly. I have been told that the Endotine implants which he used on my (and charged me an additional £600 for), should not be used for forehead reduction. If my skin didnt have enough elasticity (which i know it has), then an expander should have been used, NOT the implants.
I have had no after care what so ever, despite contacting them the day after surgery to explain how upset i was with the results, nobody has called me to ask how i am, how the swelling is, or to reassure my concerns.
I want it done again, and have been told i would have to wait up to 6 months for the swelling to completely go, and even then, i would need scan of my head to see what he has done to me.
I know which surgeon i am using next, but i dont want to pay for it again, firstly because i cant afford it again, and secondly, i shouldn't have to. I will be attempting to get my money back for the surgery, as there are zero results.
I am still gutted, and more angry now too. I get married in August and I really wanted this surgery to help boost my confidence so that i can enjoy the day without having to worry about my hair moving out of place and constantly checking my fringe!
I will see what happens and update when i know anything else.

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February 24, 2016
So sorry for your disappointment
What I suggest is you spend the next 6 months as they explained letting the swelling go down & doing thorough research
There are a handful of surgeons in the world that specialize in FFS which is essentially bone shaving & shaping to make the face more beautiful...mostly men Transitioning across to female seek it out
However, a handsome man has female math in bone structure
So whether male or female
You need an Ffs surgeon to
Reduce & beautify your forehead
There is one such surgeon in Europe ..I think his name is Dr Van De Ven...or similar
U can google Ffs surgeons Eu.
Be patient.,often out of the most distressing situations comes something very positive & uplifting we had to 'stub our toe' to see
September 6, 2016
Gosh I can't believe this - what is the indent did the other surgeon advise? Who was other surgeon if you don't mind me asking? Sorry I mean I can believe it I can see from your photos just yet another surgeon makes me wonder what the hell they were doing. You should definitely get a refund!!!!!
February 17, 2019
So sorry this happened to you!