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Dental implants All on Five - Louisville, KY
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I've always, always had bad teeth from childhood....
WORTH IT$75,000
I've always, always had bad teeth from childhood. Back the 60's, dentists hollowed out molars for teeny cavities. By the time I was 13 and in braces (the tin can style), my mouth was a silver, crooked disaster.
Fast forward through all the root canals and crowns, lost teeth because of too many hotspots to deal with at once.
So, after consultation with my dentist and a great prosthodontist, scans, impressions and a lot of consideration, I'm on the books for my big day on 3/22/16. I have complete trust in this team, I'm just concerned because I'm an remote executive between jobs and the timing isn't the best.
I'm being told a week of recovery, hoping for no more than four days plus the weekend.
Keeping in mind I'll be starting a new job in the next two weeks with a week of out-of-town training on their system before surgery... what a conundrum.
Any tips?
No before photos yet... I'll have to hunt for those.
Fast forward through all the root canals and crowns, lost teeth because of too many hotspots to deal with at once.
So, after consultation with my dentist and a great prosthodontist, scans, impressions and a lot of consideration, I'm on the books for my big day on 3/22/16. I have complete trust in this team, I'm just concerned because I'm an remote executive between jobs and the timing isn't the best.
I'm being told a week of recovery, hoping for no more than four days plus the weekend.
Keeping in mind I'll be starting a new job in the next two weeks with a week of out-of-town training on their system before surgery... what a conundrum.
Any tips?
No before photos yet... I'll have to hunt for those.
Replies (5)
March 22, 2016
It looks like you had a lot of encounters with dental crooks. Vast majority of those "professionals" do more harm than good while taking you to cleaners in the process... I hope you had your dental ligaments removed and cavitations cleaned up! Did they ozonate the extraction sites? I also hope they used a synthetic bone graft, something like Steiner material and you are getting zirconia implants vs. metal mess... If you ended up with titanium screws (which, BTW, cost to dentists only $25 a pop) at least get E-Max restorations!
March 23, 2016
Thanks, but really, my dentists had a lot to deal with. I grew up in the 60's and 70's. There was luxury of the technology there is today. When you had a tiny cavity in a molar for instance, they drilled the surrounding area out, too. Big, ugly silver fillings. Braces were tin cans wrapped around the entire tooth.
I'm not concerned about this prosthodontist. He's the best in our metro area.
I'm not concerned about this prosthodontist. He's the best in our metro area.
March 23, 2016
Materials placed in your mouth are very important and no matter how good the skills of the dentist are if they are using "conventional" stuff it may create health problems that most of the people do not even connect to the dental procedures.
April 17, 2016
I live in Cirencester, in the UK. I'm blessed with very good teeth which I've always taken care of. However, due to a grinding teeth in sleep, I developed a crack in lower molar. Eventually this became uncomfortable. I found a fantastic dental practice that came highly recommended. First I had a root canal ..such a painful procedure. This didn't help and so eventually I decided to go for an implant. Yes, expensive but this dentist (Ross Cutts) specialises in implants and gives lectures on the procedure . He's excellent.
He insisted though that after I had my tooth removed, I must patiently wait until the bone had grown, in order for the implant to be properly secured. The treatment from tooth removal to end result took 6 months, with regular scans and imaging to show all was ready. He doesn't believe in rushing the process as the chances are that the implant will loosen and need to be replaced in a few years unless new bone has grown.
It's expensive and so I wanted to make sure we did things right. I was nervous about it but It's been 6 months now and it looks and feels just like a normal tooth. Very pleased with it.
I take very good care to floss and I use Tepe's . Was told that if I take good care of it, it will last a lifetime.
There are some things that can't be rushed.
UPDATED FROM Carabella1
28 days pre
Before photos...
You can't really see how bad they are under all the crowns. I have a four-tooth bridge on the lower right that has come loose. The only thing keeping the molars in is a pin. The teeth underneath are down to the gumline. All my crowns are over 12 to 17 years old.
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February 23, 2016
Well to start I'm in the middle stages. I started mid Dec so maybe week 9. I had the all on 4 done in Irving Texas. Both arches all inclusive for 29000. My review and many other can be found by typing "all on 4" in the search box. I am the 55 year old man in tx
I went with the oral sedation. Awake but don't remember. With a side of nitrous. No memory of pain at all. Anyway take a look at the reviews and don't stress about it. Is there pain after? Yes. Is it bad pain? No. The pain meds your prescribed will work just fine. Swelling will come and go in just a few days as will bruising. If any. Look forward to it. You can't finish a journey without starting.
Good luck
I went with the oral sedation. Awake but don't remember. With a side of nitrous. No memory of pain at all. Anyway take a look at the reviews and don't stress about it. Is there pain after? Yes. Is it bad pain? No. The pain meds your prescribed will work just fine. Swelling will come and go in just a few days as will bruising. If any. Look forward to it. You can't finish a journey without starting.
Good luck
February 24, 2016
I read your review a few days ago. Thanks for the info. Are you still on the soft diet?
February 24, 2016
Yes still on diet as my dentist wants that for 4 months so bone integrates well. All I care is it is done right the first time. It really isn't that bad. The main thing is the end is now closer than the beginning.
UPDATED FROM Carabella1
18 days pre
Long day... impressions...
I've updated the total for my all on 5's from $40,000 to $70,000. Oh, trust me, I gasped when I received the final treatment plan. Here's the thing though. When I got my crowns 18 years or so ago, I was told my case was one of the most difficult the office had ever seen. I have a child sized mouth and very large teeth, my upper jaw is crooked and my teeth are oddly spaced.
So when I got to the office at 11 this morning we talked about it. We'll spread it out as far as possible to make it less painful financially, and I completely trust Dr Wayland and his staff, although I did tell him this chunk of change automatically allows me to call him Ryan. ;)
I knew impressions would be taken today and my four tooth bridge on the bottom would be reglued temporarily. It was much more involved than I thought.
He worked only on my upper teeth (all my lowers will be pulled along with a few upper teeth on 3/22). All crowns except two were ground off, mushy areas were drilled out. I was well numbed, but had to remember to breathe through the nose, exhale through the mouth. Completely painless. I can't believe people choose to do this heavily sedated! As someone who has had root canals on almost every tooth, this was a cakewalk. It took about 3.5 hours.
He fashioned acrylic temps for the top that look identical to my old crowns but a few shades lighter, not enough to make the two side crowns look out of place. I'd like the interim teeth to be a lot whiter, but not bleached white. The great thing is, I've got options.
I'm disappointed I can't refresh my breath with sugar free gum, but stopped on the way home for mints. Not a huge sacrifice.
I was also put on amoxicillin for the next two weeks for one of my lower teeth, part of the four tooth bridge. I heard the words "necrotic" and "sepsis". Yikes!!!
So my surgery is 2-1/2 weeks away. I will be completely out for the entire procedure. They estimate it will be eight hours. I'll go home with top teeth and go back the next day for the bottoms. The top implants will be done later in the year.
All in all I'm impressed by Ryan Wayland and his partner, Mark Nation.
The next update will be toward the end of this month after surgery.
So when I got to the office at 11 this morning we talked about it. We'll spread it out as far as possible to make it less painful financially, and I completely trust Dr Wayland and his staff, although I did tell him this chunk of change automatically allows me to call him Ryan. ;)
I knew impressions would be taken today and my four tooth bridge on the bottom would be reglued temporarily. It was much more involved than I thought.
He worked only on my upper teeth (all my lowers will be pulled along with a few upper teeth on 3/22). All crowns except two were ground off, mushy areas were drilled out. I was well numbed, but had to remember to breathe through the nose, exhale through the mouth. Completely painless. I can't believe people choose to do this heavily sedated! As someone who has had root canals on almost every tooth, this was a cakewalk. It took about 3.5 hours.
He fashioned acrylic temps for the top that look identical to my old crowns but a few shades lighter, not enough to make the two side crowns look out of place. I'd like the interim teeth to be a lot whiter, but not bleached white. The great thing is, I've got options.
I'm disappointed I can't refresh my breath with sugar free gum, but stopped on the way home for mints. Not a huge sacrifice.
I was also put on amoxicillin for the next two weeks for one of my lower teeth, part of the four tooth bridge. I heard the words "necrotic" and "sepsis". Yikes!!!
So my surgery is 2-1/2 weeks away. I will be completely out for the entire procedure. They estimate it will be eight hours. I'll go home with top teeth and go back the next day for the bottoms. The top implants will be done later in the year.
All in all I'm impressed by Ryan Wayland and his partner, Mark Nation.
The next update will be toward the end of this month after surgery.
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March 16, 2016
Whoa nelly! Dr. Golpa in Vegas charged me 35,500 for extracting 27 teeth while fully sedated with an anestiologist and an assistant surgeon. I had three abscesses and several broken teeth and severe TMJ from a broken jaw that didn't heal correctly. He prescribed two weeks of clinamycin antibiotic before my surgery.
9 implants, five on upper, four on lower
Removal of tori, which is excess bone that will interfere with bridges
Full upper and lower titanium reinforced bridges
Three night's lodging at the Treasure Island Hotel on the strip
A driver who picked me up at the airport, drove me to and from the clinic to hotel and back to the airport. He also drove me to the pharmacy to pick up pain meds, since they can't be phoned in ahead of time. He went thru drive in at Walgreens and took care of it, though I paid for that.
A night guard
I had it done three weeks ago and am very pleased. I watched dozens of his patients testimonials on YouTube.
Clear choice which heavily advertises wanted 50,000.
I did have to pay Southwest Airlines $133.00 for airfare to and from Vegas. Once I got there they took care of everything else. Dr. Golpa is wonderful, talented, experienced and not greedy. They extracted my teeth and put the implants in the same day, had no teeth for one night while they created my beautiful smile and got them placed the next day. He has 16 shades of white to pick from and I got to choose what I wanted.
9 implants, five on upper, four on lower
Removal of tori, which is excess bone that will interfere with bridges
Full upper and lower titanium reinforced bridges
Three night's lodging at the Treasure Island Hotel on the strip
A driver who picked me up at the airport, drove me to and from the clinic to hotel and back to the airport. He also drove me to the pharmacy to pick up pain meds, since they can't be phoned in ahead of time. He went thru drive in at Walgreens and took care of it, though I paid for that.
A night guard
I had it done three weeks ago and am very pleased. I watched dozens of his patients testimonials on YouTube.
Clear choice which heavily advertises wanted 50,000.
I did have to pay Southwest Airlines $133.00 for airfare to and from Vegas. Once I got there they took care of everything else. Dr. Golpa is wonderful, talented, experienced and not greedy. They extracted my teeth and put the implants in the same day, had no teeth for one night while they created my beautiful smile and got them placed the next day. He has 16 shades of white to pick from and I got to choose what I wanted.
March 16, 2016
It's pricey. It has a lot to do with the structure of my maxilla and mandible. I had the same issue when my crowns were done. I would have considered Dr Golpa, but logistics aren't great right now. Dr Wayland is 15 minutes from my home.
I'm so glad you're happy with your teeth! Was there much pain/swelling?
I'm so glad you're happy with your teeth! Was there much pain/swelling?
March 16, 2016
There wasn't much swelling because Dr. Golpa prescribes a steroid that you take a day or so before and after surgery to help with swelling. If you're diabetic he prescribes a different anti inflammatory.. I had lots of bruising and some pain from the excess bone removal. This is not common. 27 out of a 1000 will need tori removal. They say one in ten will bruise.. I too have a very narrow arch. When I bite into a sandwich it looks like a kid ate it. My son needed a palate expander when he got braces. I also have severe tmj because of a broken jaw that didn't heal correctly and severely limits how wide I can open my mouth. I've been told by several dentists that it's the worst tmj they've ever seen and I was their most challenging patient. Surgery to correct it would most likely cause facial paralysis so I didn't have it. Amazingly, Dr. Golpa was able to help my tmj by correcting my bite with a computer program he has. That was an unexpected bonus! Good luck! Hope all goes well, you recover quickly and love your new smile! I hope you'll look up Dr. Golpa's website. It's very comprehensive. You can also call his office. 702-641-7111. I flew in on Tuesday morning, had the extractions done that day, got my new teeth on Wednesday. I hung around Vegas on Thursday in case I needed any adjustments because of tmj,. I didn't need any so I flew home Friday. I need to return for a follow up in June. I just hate to see someone spend double if they can find someone who can handle their complications for far less. People travel from all over the world to see him. I've heard he is the number one practioner in the world doing implants. He's been doing them for twenty years now. Read his website and see his video testimonials. You might be Ble to save a huge chunk of change!
March 18, 2016
All your previous dental work was failing? Redoing your crowns was not an option?
70k???
70k???
March 23, 2016
My crowns had been done twice over 30 years, and there was nothing left of the underlying teeth, so no. There was no option.
April 15, 2017
Hi there,
I relate so much to your teeth they sound just like mine. My youngest son asked me " if I ever wish I was a shark so I could grow more teeth" funny kid! I have spent a lifetime being in pain and being self conscious of my teeth, I'm now on the journey to fixing them and found your story helpful, thank you for sharing this
I relate so much to your teeth they sound just like mine. My youngest son asked me " if I ever wish I was a shark so I could grow more teeth" funny kid! I have spent a lifetime being in pain and being self conscious of my teeth, I'm now on the journey to fixing them and found your story helpful, thank you for sharing this
August 13, 2017
For starters; unfortunately I've been on disability and live in N.Y. on $1400/mon. I too have had dental nightmares since childhood. I am on the verge of upper(all temps) needing to go & possibly front lower. I'm in despair. Had a plate temporarily and found it utterly intolerable. (very small bite)-I need help tho without financial resources am lost. Any thoughts???? This is not just vanity-this will make it impossible for me to speak, smile, or chew. As the temps on upper are now infected again-and it was nearly 3 years ago-I know there is significant bone loss. I need a miracle.-on the edge
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