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Tip of my Nose Looks Bigger, Lost Its Shape, and Moves Around After Septoplasty - Los Angeles, CA

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I had septoplasty done exactly one year ago in Los...

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I had septoplasty done exactly one year ago in Los Angeles by an ENT at Good Samaritan Hospital which was fully covered by my PPO. My doctor throughly explained the surgery and ASSURED me the appearance of my nose would NOT change. I had a deviated septum and often found it hard to breath out of my nose. My deviation was on both sides, but more significantly on my left side. My nose looked normal and I liked it for the most part, no form of rhinoplasty was done on my nose, or so I have been told.

Two weeks after my surgery, I noticed that my nose looked a bit shorter and that my nostrils looked bigger. I could also see the hairs in my nostrils which never in my life could I see them before. The biggest difference was when I smiled. My nose looked bigger and the definition on my tip was completely gone, it looks like a blob of a tip. My face no longer looked relaxed, it almost looked like I was scrunching. I told my doctor during a follow up and she was satisfied with the results and said she didn't feel it looked swollen, I figured it was though.

It still looks the same. A few weeks later when I touched my nose, I could feel the tip move around, it pops a bit if I just move it lightly with my finger. It doesn't hurt at first, but sometimes the tip can feel bruised. I find it interesting that my tip moves around and looks different. I went to see my doctor again, I told her about my concerns and she just said that my nose looked exactly the same. Of course she was going to say that, she never took before pictures because my nose wasn't supposed to look any different. She said it wasn't normal that something would be moving around and didn't even touch my nose to feel the popping.

I felt crazy, but months built up and I had now become ashamed of my nose and taking photos. I finally wrote my doctor a detailed letter along with including several before and after photos. She met with me and admitted that from looking at the photos, my nose DOES look different but she honestly didn't know why it would look different. She explained the entire procedure and the only conclusion she came up with was that maybe the cartilage that shapes my nostrils pulled a bit and healed that way... If that makes any sense at all? It still doesn't explain why something is moving around. Again she did not touch my nose to see feel the popping and moving around of the tip... She looked up my nose with a camera, but didn't personally touch it with her hands, only her tools.

She said that if I were to get it fixed, I should find a good doctor who specializes in working on tips. I was shocked when she said this and because she is my doctor and I trusted her, I felt vulnerable and just said okay. Shouldn't she be the one to fix it? Shouldn't she pay for it? I've never felt so ugly and can't afford rhinoplasty or a lawyer. Can my insurance do anything? I think I'll try to report it. I really just don't know what to do or what the problem is. My doctor is board certified, went to a great school, is really nice and explains everything, so I hate to put her down, but this should have never happened and I am disappointed she doesn't know what she did wrong and just sent me home without ever checking up.

Any suggestions would be invaluable to me. I am going to seek a second opinion, but is there a way to see my nose in an x-ray to see if there is something loose in my nose? Should I go to another ENT or a plastic surgeon for an opinion?

If anyone has had the same experience or similar, I would love to hear what you did or your theories. Although the deviation was fixed and I am breathing well, I feel like I lost part of my identity and ethnic characteristic. I used to call my nose my little button nose, I never considered it to be big.. Now I have a bigger nose. It's just so confusing.

Thank you!

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I thought she knew what she was doing, but she ruined my face due to a bad septoplasty job. I woke up in extreme pain and she said I should have very little pain. That was a sign there. My nose tip looked less refined and swollen, I thought it was healing, but it was healed... The swollen appearance is perminant now. Because my nose tip is shorter, lines developed under my eyes and my eye shaped changed. She admitted my nose looked different, but said she didn't know why and that she followed procedure. After consulting with several rhinoplasty specialist, they all agree that my nose tip is shorter and less refined due to my septoplasty surgery. Two years later, I'm completely heart broken over this procedure. I can't afford to get it fixed and i hate looking in the mirror. I no longer smile with my teeth to avoid my nose bunching up and lines forming under my eyes. She reception staff was very unpleasant.

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March 16, 2014
I can see a slight difference in your before pics. However- your after nose doesn't look bad by any means. I don't look at it and think "botched nose job" or anything. It just appears slightly wider when you are smiling. I didn't notice as much of a change in the tip definition. I don't think it is anything I would have revision surgery for. If your cartilage did heal funky and that's what caused the slight difference, you risk having it happen again if you try to fix it. It doesn't look bad now and I'd be scared more surgery may make it look bad.
March 31, 2014
Hey Ermm23a, Thank you so much for reading. To be honest, pictures dont do the difference justice... It definitely is wider when I smile and protrudes out more. Realself downsized my photos, but I am pasting a link from my dropbox so you can see them better if you'd like. One thing is that my nose looks different, but the fact that my tip now feels like it pops when I touch it makes sense as to why it looks different. I believe my septum was moved up making my nose shorter in length but taller, which is why my nostrils are bigger now. You obviously can't see in the pics, but I developed lines under my eyes when I smile and if I slightly push the sides of my nose down, the lines go away... All in all, I just miss my old nose, had it all my life. :( https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33533785/Real_Self_Nose.zip
March 16, 2014
Did you have an open procedure done for the septum repair? Did you have swelling on the nasal tip after surgery? If so how long did it take for swelling to go away? It may be helpful to post bigger pics for better viewing of any differences.
March 31, 2014
Hey Flowers9, Thanks so much for reading. For some reason, the pics are made smaller, but I made a zip that can be downloaded from my dropbox below. I don't know what an "open procedure" means, but I did have this procedure done for septum repair and not for cosmetics. One thing I have been reading about is that when septoplasty is done, your entire septum is taken out, straightened, and put back in. My nose is shorter, my nostrils are bigger, and I am thinking this is because my spetum might have been placed back a bit higher than where it was before. It actually looks like it protrudes out more... Its very hard to tell in pictures... I had very minimal swelling after the surgery.. I thought my nose had swelling when I saw that it looked wider, but it turns out that was just how it was. Here are the pics, thank you. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33533785/Real_Self_Nose.zip
November 10, 2014
hi. I'm totally feeling horrible for you, i feel you! i have gone through the exact same thing. my nose was perfect and pretty before my septoplasty, now the tip pops like yours and looks ugly to me. did you get your issue resolved?
May 5, 2015
Hi! No my issue hasn't resolved. Sadly I kept looking at my eyes (not in photos) thinking why do my eyes look different. I look angry when I smile and deep lines appear now. It happened right after septoplasty. I realized, when I barley pinched my nose tip down, the lines disappeared. My nose tip moves around like its broken and it now swells up sometimes. It's been an extremely sad experience. I feel so ugly when I take pictures and to correct it will cost about 10,000k.
May 13, 2015
I just watched a "Botched" episode and a woman had scarring from a broken nose removed. When the tissue was removed, her nostrils widened to the point that you could see into her nose. It was because the tip was brought up, lengthening the nostrils. She had corrective surgery where they removed cartilage from her rib and added it to the tip of her nose to shorten her nostrils. You might want to consider something similar. But it's a more invasive procedure and I'm not really sure how you can alleviate the cost. Maybe start an online fundraiser explaining your situation to raise money for the surgery.
May 13, 2015
with that being said, I don't think you need it! Your nose looks great in my opinion. I have a hard time even noticing what you're complaining of in the pictures even.
June 3, 2015
My story is mug like yours. I had a cute perfect nose, until I was hit in the face playing co-Ed softball. I had a deviated septum. The first plastic surgeon made u nose look like a ski slope. I later found another dr who did a little better job, but the end of my nose is wider and the end moves also. My nostrils are not de metrical. I have since been embarrassed of my appearance and would love to get it repaired. I am on Houston searching for the most experienced dr for the job.
UPDATED FROM Atlanta_BAE
2 years post

It's been 2 years now...

Atlanta_BAE
It's been a sad journey. I have consulted with 3 top rhinoplasty specialists in Los Angeles and a surgeon at UCLA and they all agree that my nose tip was shortened due to a bad septoplasty job. Unfortunately, to correct just my nose tip alone is about 10k.

Shortly after I post this, I met with my septoplasty doctor Leah E. Mintz of Los Angeles Ear, Nose , and throat. She looked at the pictures and admitted she saw a difference but said she followed procedure and does not know what could have happened... But every other doctor had an idea of what went wrong. After meeting with her, I turned 26 and lost my health insurance, so unless I want to go the legal route (which I'm sure I probably signed something being aware of the risks) then I have to save up and hope that when I do have surgery, that doctor can just give me my old nose back. It wasn't a perfect nose, but at least it was mine and I felt okay to look in the mirror. It's just so depressing that my doctor never offered to fix it after admitting it looked different. My whole face looks different. My eyes are different.

My nose tip still looks bigger and swollen and because my tip was shortened, creases developed under my eyes and my eye shape has changed. When I barely pinch my nose, the lines disappear and the shape goes back to how it was before... I had beautiful eyes. They had a bit of an S shape when I smiled and now they're just bunched up. I cry a bit as I write this, I guess I have no other outlet. I just want to feel beautiful again and my doctor took that away from me. I feel ashamed of my face.

The tip even pops a bit when I barely tap it... Which it had been doing since the day I got home from surgery.

I reccomend anyone looking to do this surgery make their doctor take before and after pictures even if they say the appearance won't change. My doctor assured me my appearance wouldn't change and it did.

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December 19, 2015
Hi! I'm actually going through a really similar situation, and I'm also of a mixed asian background. I had a Septoplasty a few years ago and for some reason since then, have developed depression, hated taking pictures, and couldn't figure out what I didn't like about my appearance. I figured out that the SAME exact thing has happened to my nose and linked it back to my sepotplasty. The only difference is that I remember my doctor mentioning in passing that he wanted to do a slight tip adjustment, but never put it on record (I've since gotten my surgery records and he wrote nothing about it, but definitely mentioned he was going to do this). I hate my nose now, almost the same exact thing has happened (nose lost its tip, looks flat and wide, my nostrils show a lot more) and I too used to have a cute little button nose. I have before and after pics too that are just like yours. I turn 26 next February and I think I want to bring this up with my doctor. It's really affected my life and my self confidence, mainly because I don't look like myself anymore, espcially when I smile. Oh and I also have a little popping thing at the tip of my nose as well. Our situations are weirdly similar. What have you done since this post? Any updates? I hope you found a solution and/or were able to do something about it! I know how crippling this can be, and hope you're okay or at peace with it now.
December 19, 2015
BTW I've went back for other check ups, but am too scared to mention or put blame on him for hating my nose... I feel like I should speak up about it.
December 26, 2015
Hey Ncle1,

Omg I literally feel for you right now. So crazy, my family wanted to take photos of me for Christmas and I couldn't refuse and they just texted them to me and I felt so ugly. I've been looking at my nose all night. Sadly, due to financial reasons, I have not gotten it fixed. I found the perfect Doctor, but it's around 10k and I'm in so much student loan debt that I think I'll be stuck with my nose for awhile. A part of me wants to sue and maybe find an attorney that will help me. I really feel so emotionally damaged. My nose just has no structure and looks so big on my face and my eyes have this weird crinkle. It's crazy how similar are situations are. My advice is be upfront with your doc and demand a fix. What do you have to lose? Make your doc admit that he/she mentioned touching your nose tip. I think I have 4 years to sue, so if I am going to do it, I'll need to do it soon... But I've got so much going on in my life the other part of me says let it go and save up. It really is a horrible situation to feel ugly and not in control. I'm so sorry this happened to you too.! All this is just so wrong.
December 26, 2015
Ps in my before and after photos it shows I had put on some face weight. I did gain weight. But since I've lost 20 pounds. I'm the smallest and lightest I've ever been and my nose still looks like a fat big blob
July 31, 2016
Hey Venice Girl!

I'm checking up on this post again, I still feel like I'm dealing with this. I've also found the perfect plastic surgeon but it would be around 10k for me too :\

I'm really sorry this happened to you too!! I wish I could just take the surgery back and tell him my breathing is fine. Unfortunately this upcoming August will be my 4 year mark, so I'm also running out of time to file a lawsuit or do anything of the sort.

Are there any updates to your situation?
August 18, 2016
I'm going through the same problem:( can you tell me who's that perfect surgeon!?
October 10, 2016
Hey! I'm so sorry for the late response. No update, except I'm finally looking into getting an attorney. I'm almost at my 4 year mark. After all these years, all I can say is that it's greatly affected me. How about you? Any updates to yours? xoxoxox
January 26, 2016
Have you consulted with Dr. Ritu Chopra and his partner Dr. Andrew Ordon? I know it's been an exhausting and long journey for you, but they are both TOP OF THE LINE surgeons with whom I have had nothing but good experiences. They do free consultations and are so, so, very kind. I HIGHLY suggest talking with them and telling thme everything that happened. ALSO, last year, I had all of the silver fillings replaced with white ones. The dentist did a really crappy job and they all started coming out. I talked to the insurance company and they revoked payment on them and put the payment toward another dentist who is fixing them. They is a route you can check out as well. I am about to have septoplasty and I have TOTAL confidence in these two doctors. Give them a call. And best of luck to you!!! :-)
September 1, 2016
Hello, So sorry to hear about this. I can recommend my doctor who specializes in reconstruction specifically on the face. He is amazing also is the director of plastic surgeon in Loma Linda. For 30 + 40 years I've had nose problems since I was a child. Well I'm 52 and I let it go way too long . I started to have nose bleeds, headaches, sinus infections, among many other things affecting my quality of life. CT scan was done and what a mess they found. I had so many things wrong. Doctor had to reconstruct my entire nose. I had to have rib grafting to rebuild my nose. Surgery took 7 1/2 hours. I had no bruising at all, very minimal swelling. I woke up in the recovery room and immediately I was able to breathe and smell. I was so happy that airflow was going through both nostrils. Procedure that he did was septorhinoplasty , bilateral repair of nasal vestibular , stenosis, bilateral turbinate reduction , ( rib graft ) . I'm 28 days post- op and happy. Since the surgery I've been sleeping 8 hours as opposed to 4 hours a night. Everyday the swelling goes down. I like the way my nose is looking. Actually it takes 6 months for it to go down and see results. I'm excited what I see already. I highly recommend Dr Farhad Ardeshirpour at Loma Linda University he takes many pictures of before and goes lets you know what needs to be done. I will say that my surgery was challenging , yet very successful.
November 28, 2016
Hey VeniceGirl - I wanted to give you my opinion on my updated thoughts about our/your situation!
Since I LITERALLY have the same exact problem as you...

I don't think its the bridge of the nose that's been altered, but only the tip. That's what is causing it to look like your nose is all of a sudden flatter than it was before. Because all I had was a septoplasty as well, but my doctor casually told me he would try to get rid of my "droopy tip" "while he was in there" (this was asked casually/verbally in the hospital, while I was getting ready to go under fyi) but my surgery was ONLY supposed to be a septoplasty...

This is only done by moving the cartilage around in the tip near your septum, which causes it to lose the more bulbous "full" part of your tip that helps your nose retain its shape at the end. So when we smile, even though the muscles that pull down the tip are still there the cartilage that usually holds it up is no longer there or has been moved. This makes it look flat.

I believe this is what we would need revised in the future, (just the tip) if we were to do something about what happened.

Just my two cents :) xoxo tell me what you think!!!
May 20, 2017
Go to Turkey. Its much cheaper and they also know how to do some good noses. I advice Yakup Avsar (in istanbul) as he done my sisters knows and its [RS bleep] gprge. I also done my tip (I had tiplasty, just a slight,cute lift to the tip. My hump was left alone as I didnt want it straigtend) by Dr. Baran Kul (in istanbul) but my nose is still very swollen and I wont see the full results till about 6months-1yr.

A lot of people also advice Korea for asian noses. I was orginally gonna go south korea until I read horrible reviews of caucasian females who were dissapointed by the results. I dont feel like korean doctors understand caucasian stuctures well and kinda [RS bleep] it up (im judging based of reviews). But theyr high class with asian facial structures so u might wanna check them out (and a bonus would be to travel south korea a bit bfore yr surgery)
UPDATED FROM Atlanta_BAE
3 years post

2016 - 3.5 years later

Atlanta_BAE
I'm still poor due to student loan debt, so I haven't been able to afford a nose job or an attorney. BUT I finally have been able to identify what happened. The middle part of my nose used to dip slightly making it look smaller. My doctor must of raised the middle part of my nose to make it straight (my guess is she thought it would look better), but it actually shortened my nose and widened it making everything look bigger. Here are some new pics... I'm still working on the situation. I've struggled with deep depression because of it and hope one day soon this issue will be resolved.

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October 10, 2016
Forgot to mention, my nose tip still wiggles and I feel this weird pressure still on my nose sometimes... :(
June 1, 2017
Hey VeniceGirl! It's me again. I can share pics with you too if you want, honestly mine look a little worse than yours. But I've also been struggling with depression and lack of self esteem since this same thing happened to me.

Anyway - I wanted to update you that I think I've decided to do something about it and get surgery now that I have a new job. I'm thinking about going to Dr. Charles Lee in Beverly Hills since I'm Asian and he understands exactly how my Sepotplasty went down and how it made my nose lose shape.

I'm still struggling with you on this! You're not alone :(
June 1, 2017
Also - I feel like taking my ENT doctor to court would just be too much money on my end. I also have no experience/am intimidated by the whole legal courtcase thing. I don't really want that extra stress in my life if I'm already technically getting a "nose job" to fix what he did :(
January 5, 2023
Can you message me somehow? Dealing with the same exact thing