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Requested retraction - received abnormal painful bimaxillary protrusion

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4 years post

Third orthodontist unable to fix the damage

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The teeth only got worse with the new Orthodontist’s attempts to fix it. At this point I’m trying to recover damages and I’ll have to pull them all out and buy a new set. It’s pretty crazy how someone can come and ruin your teeth like that.

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David Alpan, DDS

David Alpan, DDS

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December 13, 2018
I'm so sorry. What a nightmare! Hope you were able to find a good solution to your problem. Would love to know how it all ended up.
December 29, 2018
I'm so sorry you've had to deal with so many incompetent orthodontists. I had a similar experience but the orthodontist wanted me to have a procedure done called an upper maxillary impaction to correct the overbite that the orthodontist had created by shifting my teeth forward. I ended up getting a chin implant to help with the chin recession created by my teeth being moved forward...I miss my face and feel like I look like a completely different person. In my search to find an orthodontist I found your page and I wish I could help, but I did find another girl's blog that went to a dentist and had something similar done, and it turned out perfectly. Please look at MyStory30, the orthodontist's name is Collin Tsai. I'm not sure if this will be helpful to you, but best of luck.
UPDATED FROM Sdhealthwise
4 years post

Third orthodontist. Nice guy but it’s way worse now!!

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I’ve shared my problems with minor movement forward that then turned into significant movement forward. Now I went to a third orthodontist to pull them back into place...now they have just exploded forward and my teeth are almost pulled out of the sockets. Anybody know a good dental malpractice lawyer?

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November 13, 2018
If you haven't already then research ORTHOTROPICS. I am in the UK and we have one here called Mike Mew, look him up on YouTube. Flat cheeks and weakened chins are something he covers a lot. I understand your frustration about communicating with dentists and when I researched Orthotropics I realised I was literally talking a different language. Orthotropics studies faces as part of a whole structure and not just teeth.

Good luck. Many of us are on the same journey.
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1 year post

Currently waiting first molar extractions and miniplates

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I have found another doctor for my third and final attempt to receive humane and basic orthodontic treatment toward retraction. I found an oral surgeon who wanted to help but he felt very strongly that I should just be fine with the protrusion of my profile. I don't understand where people get off telling me the way my face should look. I show pictures, I tell my story and I have come across many rude orthodontists who claim that there is no "before" and "after difference". I think orthodontists are a bunch of underachievers. I wish I had never expected any of them to be quality or professionals. They are awful. The orthodontist I have now at least listens to me. Here is a comparison document of my before/after photos and where I was as of October of 2015. It has taken 5 months to find and confirm with an oral surgeon. I don't know why I am being denied assistance in this way. I am in pain every single day from the "bulked out" and protruding roots, the poor placement of my teeth and unable to eat due to the misalignment. My teeth are worse now than when I was in high school, before my original set of braces. What the heck.

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March 15, 2016
I hope that in the end you get your desired results. Keep your head up. You are strong and beautiful.
March 19, 2016
Thank you! This is people at their best. Community is how we overcome these individuals who take advantage. Your well wish, compliment and supportive comment means a lot to me.
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April 9, 2016
I think those orthodontists are blind. There is definitely a before/after difference. You face has that sunken appearance in the mid-face. My heart hurts for you because I'm actually in the same position as you. I really understand how you feel and it's super depressing most of the time. I have severe mouth protrusion (along with a weak chin and longer than usual facial structure). My cheeks are flat and have no volume/roundness. It gives you an older appearance. But my face grew in that way while I was a teenager, I wasn't born that way though. I still have all teeth. I've been to doctors/ oral surgeons/dentists who told me my face looked fine and that it was "normal". One oral surgeon actually had the nerve to say that a weak chin and mouth protrusion (even severe like your photo) is a typical African-American feature. I was extremely disgusted with that person. When your mouth protrudes way too far out to the point where it's the first thing you notice on someone, and your teeth don't line up properly, then I'd say that's NOT normal. When your chin is pushed back, that's not normal. I feel kinda like I've been robbed of my youth worrying about this problem. I've never been asked out, probably because of that. People treat me like crap based on my looks. I can't wear any makeup like lipstick because it just looks strange, and I can't wear certain hairstyles cause it draws major attention to messed up areas of my face. Sorry to be a downer it's just I've been living like this for years and I'm now 23, I'd really like to get this fixed and I wish some type of miracle would happen. I just wanna feel normal and pretty. It's funny cause I went to dentists all the time in my youth, and never once did any dentist point out my mouth protrusion or pushed back chin, and when I asked if I needed braces for my crooked teeth, was told I don't need it. They are so clueless. I can't speak for orthodontists but I kinda don't trust anyone. I would be cautious and only go to an ortho if they have positive reviews everywhere, and make sure they are credible. I'm really sorry you have to go through this, but just know that despite these "flaws" you have, I can see that you're still an attractive woman through all of that. Please believe it. I hope and pray you find a solution to this there must be one.
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April 9, 2016
Also, I'm considering jaw surgery (based on online answers I got with two oral surgeons; the clueless oral surgeons in person said my face looked fine). You may have to consider something drastic because you are now having functional problems as mentioned. I have a blocked nose that is constantly stuffed on both sides. My mom has sleep apnea and now I'm currently being tested for sleep apnea too. If I end up having it, I may be approved for surgery. If you have breathing problems (sleep apnea) or eating problems, you may be able to get insurance to cover for jaw surgery since it would be considered a medical necessity.