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Fat Transfer to the Lower Face to Correct Excessive Buccal Fat Extraction. - London, GB
UPDATED FROM BieneMaya
1 year post
Lumpy...
There are no two ways about this... ...my fat transfer is lumpy.
I feel for my surgeon's other patients who have come out worse than I have, but I'm not happy that I'm lumpy, and doubly so because if he'd not taken too much fat in the first instance I'd not have had to have the transfer with him to try and correct it.
The 'double fail' gets me down.
I've already had further surgery elsewhere to correct his failure and as I'm healing I can see that while my new surgeon has worked wonders with my face, the fat lumps are hiding the contours he's created on that side.
It is irritating.
The first photo shows the areas on my cheeks that are lumpy, the other side shows what a 'normal' cheek should look like...
I feel for my surgeon's other patients who have come out worse than I have, but I'm not happy that I'm lumpy, and doubly so because if he'd not taken too much fat in the first instance I'd not have had to have the transfer with him to try and correct it.
The 'double fail' gets me down.
I've already had further surgery elsewhere to correct his failure and as I'm healing I can see that while my new surgeon has worked wonders with my face, the fat lumps are hiding the contours he's created on that side.
It is irritating.
The first photo shows the areas on my cheeks that are lumpy, the other side shows what a 'normal' cheek should look like...
Replies (5)
M
J
November 16, 2016
Hi there- I have just been reading your story, many thanks for sharing, as I'm searching for the best facial PS that I can find after several years of putting things off! I have already seen several but non feel "right" despite their credentials.I am looking into upper and lower bleph and face/neck lift. I would happily travel to see Dominic Bray ( I live in Cheshire in the NW) but am wondering if I would get the best care post operatively living so far away. Do you think it would be worth the inconvenience? Many thanks

B
December 18, 2016
Hi JCStevens.
Sorry I missed your message.
So you are looking for a neck up total overhaul! I totally empathise there.
Finding the right surgeon is a bit like finding the right husband. The relationship is generally as expensive when broken down into cost per year too (joking, but only just).
One big thing is that it needs to feel right. I saw a great many surgeons before selecting one for my rhinoplasty and while many on paper were equally qualified what is important is that they have a pure joie de vivre for what they do.
I met some who it seemed were biding their time before collecting their pensions and were only interested in the quick and easy jobs (clearly no one can accuse me of being either quick or easy!) and so I was dismissed/rejected.
You need to know that they can handle you at your worst, because believe me a facial freakout when you are swelling like a blatbas-beast needs to be handled with care.
With my rhinoplasty surgeon I got one curtesy phone call from a withheld number and for the rest of the time I was on my own.
With Dominic he was literally there at the end of the line and only a text away with any queries. That makes him a world apart from my 'old-school establishment' experience.
Being that bit further away from London I would say that you may like to think of spending your first week of recovery close to your surgeon's base (which is probably Harley St as it planet revamp of the UK) and there are a number of cheaper hotels out of the W1 area (I'd suggest looking to W2 as it's only a few tube stops away, but not too cheap unless you want adjoining room ambience provided by ladies of the night!).
Who ever you choose I wish you all the best and will love to follow your journey. Also if you need a recovery buddy then do shout me, having someone who's been through the looking glass helps!
[RS bleep]
J

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J
December 18, 2016
Hi again, did you get the full reply? It's only showing a snippet of what I wrote xx

B
December 18, 2016
Just a snippet (I'm guessing). This site has been super glitchy since the update.
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R
June 13, 2020
You said that Buccal fat removal cause Neck sagginess?? um how exactly??
UPDATED FROM BieneMaya
1 year post
Hey folks, I'm NOT fat!
As people have insinuated I look fat on this thread and another I'm going to post some body shots.
You will then see why I wanted a thinner face.
I'd like less chunky arms too, but short of taking away muscle, that isn't going to happen!
At all points in the face photos have I been between around 7 1/2 stone (in the 103-108 lbs or 47-49kg parameters).
My BMI has been around 18.3-19.
In most of these I'm about 36"-25"-35" although currently 36"-23.5"-35".
When people meet me in the flesh one of the very first things they say is "Oh my God you are TINY", especially if all they have seen is a head shot of me.
I'm actually thinking of changing my name to Tiny, I hear it so often!
Here are some body shots so that you can see why I wanted a slimmer face as I've been walking about looking like a lemon on a stick.
You will then see why I wanted a thinner face.
I'd like less chunky arms too, but short of taking away muscle, that isn't going to happen!
At all points in the face photos have I been between around 7 1/2 stone (in the 103-108 lbs or 47-49kg parameters).
My BMI has been around 18.3-19.
In most of these I'm about 36"-25"-35" although currently 36"-23.5"-35".
When people meet me in the flesh one of the very first things they say is "Oh my God you are TINY", especially if all they have seen is a head shot of me.
I'm actually thinking of changing my name to Tiny, I hear it so often!
Here are some body shots so that you can see why I wanted a slimmer face as I've been walking about looking like a lemon on a stick.
Replies (3)
L
December 8, 2015
First off, damn lady what is your workout routine and how are your boobs still in that high position? Goals. I'm actually a little nervous about mine starting to lose volume at 26.
Second, I don't think your face looks too fat at all. I know it's probably different for you, but I want you to know that i feel like you probably are killin it at whatever age you are (bc I sure can't tell). Fat transfer is really tricky, and I think it's a craft that should only be done by people who are really passionate about the procedure and have done it so much that they have complete confidence in their abilities.
There's a doctor here in the US name Michael Law MD, and I know he's corrected tons of botched fat grafts.
Second, I don't think your face looks too fat at all. I know it's probably different for you, but I want you to know that i feel like you probably are killin it at whatever age you are (bc I sure can't tell). Fat transfer is really tricky, and I think it's a craft that should only be done by people who are really passionate about the procedure and have done it so much that they have complete confidence in their abilities.
There's a doctor here in the US name Michael Law MD, and I know he's corrected tons of botched fat grafts.

B
January 5, 2016
Hi Luna, thanks for the compliments *blush*
You are totally right, with any true talented professional there must be passion for what they do. I made the mistake of thinking a surgeon's skills for one thing was transferable and it wasn’t (twice!).
If I can't get a resolution with my current surgeon then I will look to other options, so thanks for the tip.
You are totally right, with any true talented professional there must be passion for what they do. I made the mistake of thinking a surgeon's skills for one thing was transferable and it wasn’t (twice!).
If I can't get a resolution with my current surgeon then I will look to other options, so thanks for the tip.

J
J
June 15, 2020
I sincerely do not follow what she is talking about. Her head looks fine on her body. Her body is not super tiny but more of an average size.. minus her waist if it is 23.5 inches.
UPDATED FROM BieneMaya
1 year post
!!!SUPER important regarding eating and drinking before surgery!!!
On another topic I follow I have seen people talking about eating the morning of their op (when they shouldn't be). Let me share this with you. I'm going to post it on all of my surgical threads because I think it is SUPER important.
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If they say "Nil by mouth" from a certain time before your surgery then OBEY!
DON'T EAT, DON'T DRINK!
If you don't follow the rules you run the risk of vomiting/regurgitation under anaesthesia or pulmonary aspiration (where you breathe in your own vomit) which can lead to MASSIVE problems like, well, oh, I don't know, bradycardia leading to cardiac arrest, brain damage and death!
The risk is twice as common among elective surgical cases as we aren't ill, can be blasé about our instructions and eat or drink when have been told not to!
Don't make your surgical experience any more difficult than it need be.
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If they say "Nil by mouth" from a certain time before your surgery then OBEY!
DON'T EAT, DON'T DRINK!
If you don't follow the rules you run the risk of vomiting/regurgitation under anaesthesia or pulmonary aspiration (where you breathe in your own vomit) which can lead to MASSIVE problems like, well, oh, I don't know, bradycardia leading to cardiac arrest, brain damage and death!
The risk is twice as common among elective surgical cases as we aren't ill, can be blasé about our instructions and eat or drink when have been told not to!
Don't make your surgical experience any more difficult than it need be.
I'll also expect a sudden rush to my pages with new members saying I look "fine" and that their work with him was also fine (yet they'll probably not have posted a single review themselves).
I'm wise to that tactic so I'm putting this out now and you can nod and say "yep, she called it" if that happens!
People can message me to ask me though.
A pet hate of mine on this board is when someone clearly has something amiss and people comment that either they can't see what the person is talking about or "it's not that bad" and I always think "Oh, did the relevant surgeon send you?"! So it is heartening (in a way) that others see what I see.
I think Dominic wanted to see the results of the lift he has done for me to rectify my previous surgeon's work before tackling the fat transfer from my other surgeon (which I can understand and appreciate. Correction isn't a simple process).
I have a check up with Dominic next month so I'll ask him then. Being a perfectionist I don't think he'll let my results lay just as they are.
I hope that you don't end up with undulations like mine, it seems that fat transfer is a tricky beast and unpredictable too.
I think I know what surgeon did this to you and he is highly regarded - it's disconcerting for me to hear you mention that he too has those suspicious reviews from people who post once and disappear.
Obviously as I feel he has messed up twice (look at this and my buccal fat extraction review) I'm very cautious to let him work on me again as this is clearly not his field of expertise. However I do know that he has messed up another fat transfer patient (someone told me about seeing them crying and looking odd in his waiting room) so maybe he has experience in fixing his mistakes?
At the same time, I have a very good face surgeon in the shape of Dominic who I trust and would prefer to have him fix anything with his expertise.
I've not named my original surgeon yet so I've not had those suspicious reviews/comments, yet, but it is a tactic some do use (which I hate) and I've called it out on other reviews where I've seen it and reported it to Admin. I'm just preempting it now on my review as a deterrent of any nonsense, but I will totally call it out if it happens to me.