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Time to out Myself as a Bray Babe! - London, GB

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For any who have followed my saga you will have...

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For any who have followed my saga you will have gathered that I was biding time for a face-lift.
I’ve been keeping my cards close to my chest after 2 failed procedures elsewhere (excessive buccal fat extraction leading to premature drooping and failed adequate correction) so I didn’t want to put the cart before the horse and get overly anticipant over my impending surgery.
As with my well-researched rhinoplasty I had a number of consultations with different surgeons, but the moment I met the disarmingly charming Dominic (and it was just a fleeting meeting prior to my consultation) I knew I could trust him with my face.
I can probably add nothing new to all that has been said before, but his bright, open and breezy manner will put you at ease. He answers all questions with clarity. In addition to his website he has reams of photos of prior patients and can show you. He is very realistic regarding the aesthetics that can be achieved and isn’t one to push for unnecessary procedures (in my case, not even the obagi skincare).
It was a relief to have someone note that which I have always perceived as imbalances in my facial proportions, and even better say that they can help to achieve the aesthetics I’ve always wanted.
We agreed on a brow, face and neck lift, something that most surgeons wouldn’t have done because I’m not 45 yet, but as he says, he treats the face not the year of birth.
So stay tuned and I’ll take you through the next chapter of my surgical adventures…
…Oh, and one heads up, he doesn’t shake hands in a stuffy way, more a hug and cheek kiss kind of a guy, so don’t accidentally head butt him (which I almost did! I think I styled it out though…).

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October 31, 2015
I have had a consultation with Dominic and agree with all the above. When are you having your surgery? xx
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October 31, 2015
He's great, you'll see soon enough!
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November 1, 2015
Every time I read another positive review about Dominic Bray, I get even more excited ... I am set to meet him on 5th November, and am flying out from Asia specifically! I had decided that I would ONLY see Dominic for surgery, and as everything seemed to just fall into place with travel plans, I am taking it that all was meant to be!

I, too, am in my early 40's, but have struggled with a lot of skin laxity from 2 horrendous Ulthera procedures (I didn't realize Ulthera actually made the issue worse, and so went for a second treatment ... regrettably), as well as several failed thread lifts. I look so different, people who have known me for years tell me they don't recognize me, and given that it's never followed with "You look great!", it troubles me. Truthfully, I don't even recognize myself anymore. My wish is for that to change through Dominic.

I am so looking forward to following your journey, and wish you all the very, very best! May your healing be swift & smooth, and may your results be everything you hope for & more!
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November 1, 2015
Oh my dear lady Phoenix, I know what you mean about not recognising yourself. I had buccal fat extraction and was left with a concertina face, especially when I looked down. Because the change was pretty much overnight it was alarming and people were asking my family members if I were ill, so I knew that it looked bad.
My original surgeon then tried fat transfer into the area he'd taken too much from, but both cheeks remained baggy.
I'm so grateful for this forum because I'd not have found Dominic otherwise and would have been in facial limbo awaiting my 45th birthday before other surgeons would operate.
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November 1, 2015
I'm sorry you went through what you did. It's so hard to handle that disconnect when you look at your reflection in a mirror, but don't recognize the reflection staring back - especially because the change is seemingly overnight! I can't articulate that feeling, but I know it well.

I so very glad you found Dominic & are sharing your journey with us all! As with you, had I not come across this site, I too, would not have the hope I do now.

I'll be in London from the 4th to 14th, but I'm doing the trip solo. PM me if you fancy some company ... I doubt either of us will be in any condition to be out & about, but I'm not so sure about being holed up in a room for 10 days either! Stay well ... here's to us - and Dominic, of course! ;-)
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November 1, 2015
PM on it's way! x
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November 2, 2015
I'm so glad we've connected! :-) xx
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November 5, 2015
Me too, did you get my PM?
Good luck today [RS bleep]
November 7, 2015
I was googling fat grafts and this led me to your thread, which led me to Ultherapy! [RS bleep]. The bottom of my face was as tight as a drum and now it's big and boxy and loose after Ultherapy The reviews are scathing on RS. Wish I read them before. I've always wanted to travel to London! Thinking I need a lower facelift of fat or lipo. I have no idea how to repair the Ultherapy damage. I'll be following the both of you. God luck!
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November 7, 2015
Oh so sorry you are a baggy face clan member.
It sucks, bites and blows all at the same time (sounds physically impossible, but we are living proof that it is!).
My fat graft wasn't good. I won't know for a while if my (what looked like) permanent​ mozzie bites have been solved by Dominic, but I certainly don't have a baggy face anymore *happy dance* although I'm all a bit too puffer fish right now to see what my final results are, I can tell you they are way better that my previous ones.
November 7, 2015
I am also 35 and was told that fat grafting could fix loss of face fat. I'm going to try it in the next couple months. im going to check out this dr Kenneth Kim as he does Korean faces and they always look so youthful.
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November 7, 2015
The problem with fat grafting gives unpredicable results. You just don't know how much fat will take and where which is why you can end up with lumpiness and uneven results.
November 1, 2015
Dom is an amazing surgeon and totally adorable!! You will not regret becoming on of the brays babes, I never have that's for sure!! See my pictures in his gallery and u will c what he did for me and I couldn't be happier! Lucy and Rebecca are equally amazing and they make a fantastic team. Good luck and look fwd to your pictures!! Lesley x
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November 8, 2015
Thank you Lesley, I had no doubts in Dom's abilities. For me when you find The One Surgeon for you, you just know you know!
Actually I found finding The One Surgeon is easier than finding The One husband! Possibly more important because the results stay with you visibly for life... ...on the flip side the stress of the wrong husband means you need the right surgeon :D

Yes, his team are wonderful too. Very personable. I feel I could chat to them all for hours.
November 8, 2015
Glad you had such a wonderful result, it will continue to just get better as time goes on!! All the best, Lesley x
November 8, 2015
He wrote back to me that he has fixed quite a few Ultherapy faces.
November 8, 2015
My mother needs a facelift. Perhaps we can go to London. Thank you for sharing all if your photos! I was scared to show my chin ;)
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November 8, 2015
No problem. I figure if we all hid away on this board it negates part of the purpose of it.
One person can be delighted with the results that another person could be distraught by, basically a picture paints a thousand words.
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November 8, 2015
He and I were talking about it just the other day! I've seen the results, they are excellent IMO.
November 2, 2015
Good luck
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November 8, 2015
Thank you Pansy! Although there is little I can really do but lay back trust the man with the knife ;)
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November 4, 2015
Hi


I hope you don't mind me asking,but how much approximately does he charge for a face lift? I am hoping to have one next year and I don't really want to go abroad,because of the risks.
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November 4, 2015
Hi

Yes,I have just been on his website they have the approx costs there. I have emailed his secretary now.
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November 4, 2015
Glad you found it, that saved me directing you there! HE has long waiting times, but it is worth it for his skills.
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The cost.

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Some on here have objected to Dominic's prices and raise concerns, to this I say;
1) Yes, he is priced equivocally to surgeons who put you under general rather than local anaesthetic, but with local sedation you can express facial movement during the procedure, not an approximate guess by the surgeon when you are out cold.
I see this as a major benefit as I'm an expressive person and would hate to lose part of my mannerisms, hence part of me. It may sound odd, but when you are 'changing face', you still want to save part of yourself.
2) I'm sure keeping someone under local/twilight sedation actually takes more work than the full knock-out drops. So his anesthesiologist (who is lovely BTW) must really have to work hard for the hours she is sedating you.
3) Unlike my surgery elsewhere I got my meds included in the price. No awkward, woozy post-op hospital moments having to fork out more coinage (or plastic) of the realm before being permitted to leave. The pre and aftercare sheets are properly printed pamphlets too unlike photocopied pages I have received elsewhere and even presented in their own branded bags.
4) You are not discharged the same day and sent home, you don't have to pay extra for an overnight hospital stay (unlike other places) your overnight is included in the cost.
5) Dominic doesn't charge for revisions, unlike many other surgeons. This was comforting to me as I had to pay for my previous facial surgeon's mistakes which still didn't correct the problem he created. adding insult to injury. Literally!
6) Some things are worth paying that bit more for, be it a perfectly aged wine, stepping on a plane and turning left, a boutique hotel at a remote beach location or for the expertise and passion of someone working on something people see all day (and far more than you do).
I heeded the advice given to me by an aircraft buddy who had seen too much bad surgery in her time; Do it ONCE, do it WELL.

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November 4, 2015
I couldn't agree more.
I am another of Bray's babes, now some 9 months on from my surgery and still in awe of how great Dominic is.
You pay for true quality and I for one was happy to pay his price - your face is far too important to take risks with.
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November 8, 2015
Hi RealFan, I learned the hard way, not getting a well-practiced expert for my buccal fat extraction and have paid the price (literally) for it.
I also get the feeling that if something isn't quite right Dominic will do his best to fix it, rather than my other experience with my previous surgeon, dismissing my concerns then seemingly just doing his least to make me go away.
Chalk and cheese (what an odd British​ phrase that is).
November 4, 2015
Great comments, Dominic is one of a kind and deserves all the amazing reviews he gets! Check out his gallery and see his results, all very natural and beautiful! I totatally respect him, you will be hard pushed to find a more genuine and passionate surgeon. Lesley x
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November 8, 2015
You must be thrilled! Have you noticed you are now more 'visible' to people?
December 14, 2015
I just feel much more confident than I did before, head held high instead of feeling I was old and judged as not attractive! Dominic helped me get back my younger self again xx
November 4, 2015
Well said Biene, hope the healing is going well. x
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November 8, 2015
Thank you, it is, you too! I can almost leave to house without scaring people now :D
June 8, 2016
Hey - you look amazing!! May I ask what the cost was?
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June 9, 2016
Hi VP5, thank you! I think that prices may have changed so it's best to look on Dominic's website. I'd post a link but I think that is against the rules here.
June 10, 2017
It seems like Bray does VERY long incisions on all (most?) of his patients. However his results are pretty amazing.
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The Low Salicylate Diet.

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Dominic recommended that I follow a low salicylate prior to, and after surgery.
The idea is to thicken the blood to minimise bruising.
I did warn him in advance that I suffer severely with a condition know as BLATB (bruise like a total [RS bleep]! - check out my post rhinoplasty panda look on my other review...) so not only did I follow the swish sheet that he gives you (wipe clean for handy kitchen reference), but I googled "Low Salicylate
Diets" and came upon all sorts of suggestions.
Bad news folks, peppermint is off the charts high in salicylates so I switched to using sodium bicarbonate. You get used to the manly taste after a while and it's actually not as abrasive to your teeth as you'd think.
As some people have said (in private) that they struggled with the diet and/or found it boring and repetitive I may well share some recipe ideas with you.
Please keep in mind I'm probably what would be called an experimental cook. I use my dishwasher to poach salmon, asparagus and pears (not all in the same jar...) to good effect.
Also after catering to the madness of Hub's sister for 3 months (a vegan, demi-pescetarian, secret ham eater) who would change her fictitious allergies on a whim, after seeing her eating wheat, dairy, sugar etc. I called her out on it all and bluntly told her she had 3 choices;
1) Eat what you asked for.
2) Go and get your own bloody food.
3) How about I smack you in the head with a frying pan?
Anyway, this was all training ground for the "How do I make these limited ingredients more fun and flavourful?" show that became "The Diet"!
On a side note the diet can also be used to reduce tinnitus and being a sufferer it was a perfect time to experiment and a perfect cover reason.

My tips on the diet in general;
If you are a caffeinated person wean yourself off several weeks or even a month before, that way you can slip but get back on the bull/horse/large quadruped.
If you are a sugar fiend you'll possibly have to reconnect with baking.
If you give up sugar (I did as it depletes the immune system) you can take the following to help reduce cravings; chromium, Vit B, Co-enzyme Q10 (there are more, just google them).
If you LOVE your wine, just remember that alcohol thins the blood (read wine considerably so), use this a the key reason not to sabotage your recovery.
If you don't taper off various habits before you start the diet you'll get crappy headaches and skin for the week before your surgery (don't ask me how I know o_O ).

If you need any further (th)inspiration to stick with it I'll share my best photo from week 1...

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November 7, 2015
I went off alcohol and dairy and most fat and white carbs and coffee for the past month ( surgery Monday) and one thing I can tell you is that my skins, which tends to break out, has been totally clear and I've received several compliments on it, also, I sleep like a log and wake up totally refreshed. Oh, there's the 10 pounds too.... But to the skin is the really unexpected result,
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November 7, 2015
Magic, eh?! I haven't even craved chocolate (previously a staple food group). All the best of health and healing for Monday onwards! x
November 8, 2015
Hey , I had my op 22nd October & I followed the diet very strictly & now still can't drink my coffee but I have bruised quite a bit & so much so that I am still staying in the house don't want to scare the natives ha ha, but I agree with all your posts , his prices cover everything ,there's no hidden extras , he's always on the end of the phone or replies to emails within a short space of time , he is there for you every step of the way & I have found him to be a very open & approachable, you can ask him about any little niggle or fear you have & he will take the time to explain everything .i feel I made the best choice & his aftercare is planned sustained taking you through the whole healing process ensuring along the way that your result is as you expected & I am sure if a patient is unhappy about things he would do much to help them . Enough said xx
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November 8, 2015
Sorry you bruised too. Do have a look at my next post, there may be some tips to help you out.
I agree with all that you put there.
He is very open and honest and the fact he was willing to show me examples of his worst cases as well as his best speaks volumes.
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November 8, 2015
Banana and Pear Pancake Recipe; Low salicylate diet.

Ingredients;
1 banana
1 pear
2 eggs
150g flour (I use gluten free and prefer self-raising for the fluffiness )
250 ml of milk (or milk substitute)
Ground vanilla beans not, not, NOT vanilla essence!
Butter for frying.

Use a food processor to grate the banana and PEALED and cored pear.
Add two eggs followed by 250ml of milk and blend.
Add 150g of flour and NATURAL vanilla to taste (I have the Waitrose vanilla beans in a grinder and do about 10 'scritches' rather than full turns of the grinder (if that makes sense).
Blend again.
If you like the consistency of your batter, great, if you feel it is a little thin then add more flour, if it is a little too thick add a little more liquid.
Heat up your pan, melt the butter, when it starts to sizzle away you go!

If you have batterleft you can keep it in your fridge until you are next hungry.
November 8, 2015
You're adorable. Bon appetite!
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November 8, 2015
Oh and if someone reading this hasn't ever cooked pancakes before (where have you been?!), then pour the batter into the hot pan. Wait for the bubbles in the batter to rise and then pop before flipping it over.
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November 8, 2015
I may be skinny but I like to eat! I told Dominic he was preventing me from doing ALL of my favourite things! ;D
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January 6, 2016
I've started a recipe blog with Low Salicylate ideas.
I'm going to be keeping on the diet while I do it as boredom is the mother of invention and hopefully I'll come up with some tasty alternatives out of sheer desperation. If you type in 'cooking in blandland (dot) blogspot (dot) com' you should find it. If that goes against posting rules (ADMIN?) then I guess message me and I'll share the link.
August 5, 2016
HI, tried to access your site but failed :(
I'm bracing myself for 2 weeks of eating bananas!! Being a terrible cook I'm really stressing about this diet - any recommendations truly appreciated :) thank you xx
June 29, 2016
Hi, Did you get nose job also? Looks like on photos you got.
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June 29, 2016
Yes I did LadyLady!
Two years back with a rhinoplasty specialist who I'd recommend for rhinoplasty only. https://www.realself.com/review/london-england-rhinoplasty-carefully-selected-surgeon