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Sciton (Erbium) Micro Laser Peel
UPDATED FROM Miss PDX
4 months post
4 months
$1,000
It’s been 4 months now and I would not recommend this procedure. I have seen no improvement in my skin, but I have seen areas that are now red and irritated. After 4 months! I am continuing with Retin A and HQ but the laser has caused some rebound acne. I have some broken caps that were not present before. Disappointing, especially for the price. I will stick to peels next time. The PS I work for days they are much more effective, less expensive, and last longer. And without the same side effects. I will do some BBL treatments in the near future to help even out the redness and broken caps. Save your money-get a medium to deep peel instead! Even my former aesthetician who works for a laser clinic will always tell his patients to get peels instead.
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UPDATED FROM Miss PDX
3 months post
10 weeks
Hey guys, wants to update on the MLP. I still have some areas of textural changes and redness. I saw my dermatologist (not a cosmetic one, this one works in my hospital system) to get an unbiased opinion on my healing. She actually thought I looked great, but she did say that I have “a very discerning eye” for subtlety. That said, she agreed that using Differin gel (less irritating than my Retin A 0.5%) along with HQ. She said that for ablative lasers that aggressive, healing can last 6-12 months.
I asked her if doing IPL, microneedling, or peels would help the process because I dont like the redness and areas of rough texture. She said “less is more. I see people over doing things all the time and end up worse off. Be kind to yourself, don’t stress, eat good food.”
So I’m doing what she told me and using tinted sunscreen in the meantime. I take a lot of supplements and just started juicing often so I will update more in a month or two.
I asked her if doing IPL, microneedling, or peels would help the process because I dont like the redness and areas of rough texture. She said “less is more. I see people over doing things all the time and end up worse off. Be kind to yourself, don’t stress, eat good food.”
So I’m doing what she told me and using tinted sunscreen in the meantime. I take a lot of supplements and just started juicing often so I will update more in a month or two.
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Hi! I had CO2 laser resurfacing on Feb 14, and I am so disappointed. I paid $3,000 for full face, neck, chest and hands . . . I peeled etc., but I do not see any improvement in texture or tightening! The areas I wanted improved seem exactly the same. Are you seeing any improvement? When did you start your retin A? Has it helped?
Sorry to hear that. That’s a lot of money for not a lot of results. I heard that with deeper CO2 that there are positive changes for many months to come though. I started Retin A at the 10 week mark. Could have started at 6 weeks but I wanted to wait. I honestly don’t see improvement from the laser. If anything, I am now red and irritated in areas that were not before. My derm said it can take a year. There were no collagen benefits to this because it didn’t go as deep. I now work for the plastic surgeon that does a world renowned procedure called the Bensi-peel, so next time I will just get that peel! It has positive effects on collagen AND elastin, which lasers do not.
Thank you so much. I hope so! I'll def look into the peel you recommended. I dunno tho if anyone here in Hawaii does it. You are in Portland?
Yes in Portland. He trains other physicians on his Peel too. He was just in Hawaii two weeks ago!
DARN. I just might have to get a facelift and a peel. Who is the doc you recommend?
Richard Bensimon. Check out his Real Self reviews of the Bensi Peel.
Will do!
Thank you!
Have you now seen the results, such a lot of money I hope so. If not have you received an explanation as to why it wasn’t effective?
UPDATED FROM Miss PDX
2 months post
Saw the nurse and plastic surgeon for a follow up
Yesterday I went in for a follow up to have them check on my skin as I was concerned about the redness be hyperpigmentation. They were both so sweet and caring. They said the redness is normal (for some skin types the redness, etc lasts long than others. Since I have fair skin I guess it’s common to lay longer). The raised areas I was talking about is swelling reactions. They were not concerned at all, but they did start me on Hydroquinone and Retin A to help prevent PIH (pot inflammatory hyperpigmentation). I am going to follow up again in 6-8 weeks and we will go from there. I am thinking of getting Halo and IPL next to boost collagen. Plus literally every review I have seen on Halo has great results.
Interestingly, I’ve been using Trophy Skin RejuvaliteMD (red LED light) for about 4 days now and it has made my skin noticeably softer and smoother. I think it’s helping speed the healing process on, along with the cleanse I am doing and supplements I’m taking. I’ll update soon with pics.
Interestingly, I’ve been using Trophy Skin RejuvaliteMD (red LED light) for about 4 days now and it has made my skin noticeably softer and smoother. I think it’s helping speed the healing process on, along with the cleanse I am doing and supplements I’m taking. I’ll update soon with pics.
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I hope you are able to post pics and that you are becoming happy with the procedure? I noticed you only paid $1000. That seems very low. I have been quoted $3150 for face and neck. Best wishes!
Holy moly- $3150 for the Micro Laser Peel? Or for the TRL by Sciton? That one is much deeper (same laser just different head piece). Well, they were running a special for the Halo and the MLP so it was a bit cheaper than usual but for sure not much more than that usually. I think It’s all about supply and demand.
As for my skin now- it’s still very red. Annoying because I only own CC or BB cream so it doesn’t cover it up fully. I’m hopeful about the HQ + Retin A though. And time- time will help as well. I don’t think this laser helped to the level I wanted it to, but I dont regret it. I wanted to try this one to see how it did before jumping into a C02 laser.
As for my skin now- it’s still very red. Annoying because I only own CC or BB cream so it doesn’t cover it up fully. I’m hopeful about the HQ + Retin A though. And time- time will help as well. I don’t think this laser helped to the level I wanted it to, but I dont regret it. I wanted to try this one to see how it did before jumping into a C02 laser.
Hi, I had TRL by Sciton at dr. Pearlman office in Park ave. NY, I paid $3,500 for nothing, my face was red for a long time and it did nothing to my skin ( I had no wrinkles to start) and brown spots. The dr. told me that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, that was his answer. Never reimbursed me any money, I am very disappointed in the whole laser thing.
You are tremendously lucky you were not damaged , never do it again . Also all this skin removal and exfoliating is aging . The research is there , swelling and scar tissue gives s temp boost but this whole thing is a lie and accelerates aging . So many women with ruined faces over interventions and topicals , count your lucky stars and go simple . I wish I did this .
Do not do ipl ! It in no way boosts collagen , that's not even a common claim , it's for red and Brown pigment . What is does is destroy collagen and elastin and you will have the dry ski that doesn't bounce back and becomes intolerant of moisturizer and topicaks. You'll be left with dents and dots allover your face and look 15 years older , I can assure you , you will live to regret it . Read the reviews for ipl. I had bbl, one time , not whole face , by Manhattan derm and I have not left home for 7 weeks . I literalky look 15 years older . I have huge dismayed pores that are Brown , patches of hypopigmentation and hyperpigmentation , I can only tolerate biafine and vasoline if I take oral medication first, otherwise my face breaks into hives , I have squares and dots and this orange peel look. I was not burned visibly on the outside but deep in the dermis . My derm told me to do the laser you had first to fix the bbl damage , it's s racket . My suggestion is go see a real dr. You may need to get on antihistamines and oral steroids . I also suggest you look into biafine , it's a prescription in the US . Maybe use vasoline or aquaphor . Lots of sunscreen . Stop using make up , stop washing your face except with warm water . Having you Use harsh products they gave this early out is disturbing . I know there is hyper but those creams are tough on skin that still has its integrity . The prescription strength antihistamines and oral steroids helped me a lot . You have to speak
To a dr abiut this , your family dr will probably have the most sense , put you on a 7 day course . Drink a lot of water . Do not get ipl, you will see what horrid texture is . Good luck
To a dr abiut this , your family dr will probably have the most sense , put you on a 7 day course . Drink a lot of water . Do not get ipl, you will see what horrid texture is . Good luck
I’m so sorry that happened to you! I’ve alresdy had 5 IPLs in the past, they did help with color but left me lookong deflated and I too have one area where there is still a square outline. Nothing I can do about that now, but it did markedly improve my sunspots and redness in the past. I’ve been using a red LED light by TrophySkin and I’m seeing an improvement in texture. My skin is definitely very smooth to the touch, but my issue are those red areas of irritation from the laser.
I will request Biafine from my derm. Making an appt now for a skin check.
A lot of people say they look deflated after ipl and it's true , it's kills your elastin and collagen and your aging process is dramatically affected for the worse . My face can't age that much in 7 weeks , the derm was almost giddy , she seemed to enjoy what she did to me . Even my acupuncturist , who I went to at week 4, and I didn't say anything about my face , asked me why one side of my face was swollen . The other side deflated ! I noticed it but thought I was crazy but we notice big changes , it startled me when I looked on the mirror but kept telling myself it's Just because my skin is tight and dry . I have olive skin and rarely word moisturizer , not a single wrinkle , not I'm so dry it's painful and itches all the time . I literally get hives . I hsve to take antihistamines 4 times a day and a long acting one at night and sleep with gloves because I can't help but it's my face . I'm taking hydroxyzine, it helps with that redness , your skin is massively inflamed . Biafine also does a lot for the redness . Somehow it calmed some of the hyper down so ok guessing it's the inflammation. Many will disagree but go on oral steroids , maybe even 20mg twice a day for 3 days , it's not a scary thing and it's one time , you need to calm the inflammation down , of not that then get strong anti inflammatories that are not steroids . Do not put any topical steroids on your face , you'll get more white patches . I can't believe you still have a white square , I guess mine will be here forever too . Biafine is $7 in France but $85 for a tube 1/4 the size. Don't buy it online , it's mostly fake , no risks , Just get it at the pharmacy , they will probably have to order it for you but that's a few days
Wow you must be so sensitive you poor thing. I’ve never heard of a reaction that severe and I’m a registered nurse who works in the ER and at a surgery clinic! I aprpeciate all the inside help. I’ll definitely stay off the HQ and Retin A for a while until things calm down some more. I have been washing my face using only water, honey, or cetaphil and then using a zinc based moisturizer or CeraVe PM. I requested a Biafine RX from my derm!
You're also early out for such a strong laser procedure so don't panic . But those texture changes are always a scary sign . I panic and started using things I shouldn't have , I tried hylauranic B5 from skinceurivals and argan oil and also cerave . These are all peanuts but still , it Judy added to the mess . You hsve to go bland . And you have to do something systemically , it's not Just in your face anymore , your body is highly inflammed . I don't know about the led light . Right now I would get the red and inflammation under control , everything else is just another assault on compromised skin .
How’s your skin now? How long did it take to heal?
My skin is horrible , I don't leave the house . I had bbl 7 weeks ago but the damage gets worse by the day . I had a megadose of oral steroids and it helped then my face flared up again . Now I'm on a 7 day course and it keeps it under control . My main issue is my face can't tolerate any moisturizer and if it's dry , I get very itchy and it can't heal so I'm
Stuck . I try cerave , it burns and my skin peels to the flesh then I say no more then go to aveeno and same thin then argan oil and same thing thrn round and round . I have been using the biafine but it has perfume which irritates but the exchange is worth it . Have been using vasoline for 5 days but if I don't take antihistamines and a steroid pill , my face will flare up . The Barrie is gone . I don't think it will heal . I was stable a few days and was so happy then woke up this morning with severe itching and the red marks were bigger . But I used argan oil like an idiot again . I don't know , from what I read , peoole stay like this for years . If you don't have the sensitivity you are way ahead of the curve . You had a much more aggressive laser than I did so you should expect to still be healing . I think find a few items and stick to it . I have a feeling biafine is going to be very useful to you but only try one small area a few days in a row , don't use it allover to make sure you can tolerate it , it's made for burns but you never know . Do not get any facials or use aggressive topical, you're just removing the barrier over and over . That's my experience and I've spoken to a number of dr's and read several hours a day , I know , insanity . I have not seen anyone share about how they got better so I'm putting out anythibv I find useful in case someone can benefit from it because you have to act fast . All the skinceurivals and supposedly better products , are not good for a face in our condition. So many chemicals like penoxyethanol which funnily enough is the first ingredient on the b5 serum . I wish I could make my own cream bevaude what we need is ceramide , cholesterol and fatty acids to give a barrier so the skin. An heal . Sorry for the long posts . I do think some internal things are in order . I'm juicing 2 grapefruits and a lemon daily and put in msm power. I also juice (not vitamix), carrots , kale, spinach , beets , ginger and parsley . Take supplements , tons of water . And I have one other odd suggestion but my acupuncturist is smart and I'm doing it . You can try to make some bone broth , it supposedly has collagen but let's just call it protein . You use ox tails and chicken feet (I know this is weird and I'm a vegetarian so imagine the horror), and you use bottled water . Boil for 4 hrs and should be reduced by half . You can keep it in the fridge and it should look like gelatin . It's better than bone broth by far . You can drink a cup a day or make soup out of it with noodles and veggies . No way healing can happen with out lots of protein and vitamin c . I also started taking a zinc supplement and continue my fish oil. As for the actual face , time will tell but I feel very distraught and negative , I'm sick of how it's consuming my life . The inflammation is on a vicious cycle . I have to say since I started the steroids , some of the weird texture is diminished , a little anyways . Test the biafine for a few days . If you are certain you can proceed , don't wash with a cleanser , just splash with warm water and pat dry . I wouldn't put biafine on the first time on a feshly washed face though . You can put on a thin layer and that's it , see what happens in 24hrs, don't mix anything with it . If you like it then keep using it once a day and try some vasoline over it , but test always . I strongly encourage antihistamines , my fsce was super red and thsts much better but I have to keep taking them , I'm not stopping until I see calm skin for a week . I wish I did a longer course of steroids earlier , I think much of the scarring comes from the inflammation , it just gives up and speaks over but lays down the matrix haphazardly and we get ugly marks . The rest is from the actual laser head , the holes and dots . It's on everyone's face! It's what it does .
Stuck . I try cerave , it burns and my skin peels to the flesh then I say no more then go to aveeno and same thin then argan oil and same thing thrn round and round . I have been using the biafine but it has perfume which irritates but the exchange is worth it . Have been using vasoline for 5 days but if I don't take antihistamines and a steroid pill , my face will flare up . The Barrie is gone . I don't think it will heal . I was stable a few days and was so happy then woke up this morning with severe itching and the red marks were bigger . But I used argan oil like an idiot again . I don't know , from what I read , peoole stay like this for years . If you don't have the sensitivity you are way ahead of the curve . You had a much more aggressive laser than I did so you should expect to still be healing . I think find a few items and stick to it . I have a feeling biafine is going to be very useful to you but only try one small area a few days in a row , don't use it allover to make sure you can tolerate it , it's made for burns but you never know . Do not get any facials or use aggressive topical, you're just removing the barrier over and over . That's my experience and I've spoken to a number of dr's and read several hours a day , I know , insanity . I have not seen anyone share about how they got better so I'm putting out anythibv I find useful in case someone can benefit from it because you have to act fast . All the skinceurivals and supposedly better products , are not good for a face in our condition. So many chemicals like penoxyethanol which funnily enough is the first ingredient on the b5 serum . I wish I could make my own cream bevaude what we need is ceramide , cholesterol and fatty acids to give a barrier so the skin. An heal . Sorry for the long posts . I do think some internal things are in order . I'm juicing 2 grapefruits and a lemon daily and put in msm power. I also juice (not vitamix), carrots , kale, spinach , beets , ginger and parsley . Take supplements , tons of water . And I have one other odd suggestion but my acupuncturist is smart and I'm doing it . You can try to make some bone broth , it supposedly has collagen but let's just call it protein . You use ox tails and chicken feet (I know this is weird and I'm a vegetarian so imagine the horror), and you use bottled water . Boil for 4 hrs and should be reduced by half . You can keep it in the fridge and it should look like gelatin . It's better than bone broth by far . You can drink a cup a day or make soup out of it with noodles and veggies . No way healing can happen with out lots of protein and vitamin c . I also started taking a zinc supplement and continue my fish oil. As for the actual face , time will tell but I feel very distraught and negative , I'm sick of how it's consuming my life . The inflammation is on a vicious cycle . I have to say since I started the steroids , some of the weird texture is diminished , a little anyways . Test the biafine for a few days . If you are certain you can proceed , don't wash with a cleanser , just splash with warm water and pat dry . I wouldn't put biafine on the first time on a feshly washed face though . You can put on a thin layer and that's it , see what happens in 24hrs, don't mix anything with it . If you like it then keep using it once a day and try some vasoline over it , but test always . I strongly encourage antihistamines , my fsce was super red and thsts much better but I have to keep taking them , I'm not stopping until I see calm skin for a week . I wish I did a longer course of steroids earlier , I think much of the scarring comes from the inflammation , it just gives up and speaks over but lays down the matrix haphazardly and we get ugly marks . The rest is from the actual laser head , the holes and dots . It's on everyone's face! It's what it does .
try svr sensifine cream if your skin dry or the fluide version if your have oily skin its the only cream that i tolerate
Does anyone know a good cream for the skin barrier ? I'm full of hives again . I never hsve hives but since laser it's every few days , the redness is often times low level hives , imagine if I was not on antihistamines ?! Vasoline is not going to help the barrier . I've looked up all the products and they have either hylauranic acid (hate it and messed up my skin even more ) or weird harsh ingredients . I can't find anything that's ceramide s, cholesterol and fatty acids . Oils are terrible for me too, tried them. My skin has a plastic look to it , does anyone have that ? It's shiny and almost like a pearl , the texture is ultra smooth , like plastic , I guess my skin melted . I'm
Sick of each day being a new trauma and drama. I want a simple routine and just use it and know no more damage and that I'm on the road to recovery . But I can't get stable . I don't know how anyone is able to use creams , I saw one lady mention she could only use diaper rash cream and thsts who I relate to . If I didn't take antihistamines I couldn't even use the vasoline ! I'm discontinuing the biafine bevaude I think it did its job in my case . It calmed the red , it filled in some holes and helped some brown spots . But it also helps with cell turnover and I don't neee that right now , I hsve no barrier , I need a layer back on my surface . How do I get one ? It's like the top layer is sandblasted off , it's so bizarre
Sick of each day being a new trauma and drama. I want a simple routine and just use it and know no more damage and that I'm on the road to recovery . But I can't get stable . I don't know how anyone is able to use creams , I saw one lady mention she could only use diaper rash cream and thsts who I relate to . If I didn't take antihistamines I couldn't even use the vasoline ! I'm discontinuing the biafine bevaude I think it did its job in my case . It calmed the red , it filled in some holes and helped some brown spots . But it also helps with cell turnover and I don't neee that right now , I hsve no barrier , I need a layer back on my surface . How do I get one ? It's like the top layer is sandblasted off , it's so bizarre
I can't find the ingredients anywhere and it has a green tint , thanks though
https://www.labo-svr.com/en/sensifine-fluide here is the link i dont know if you can see it
if you cant see the link just search in google svr sensifine fluide it the ingredians are mentioned 2% niacinamide 5% squalene and 6% cotton oil it is fragrance free paraben free alcohol free preservative free colorant free silicone free parafine lanolin free surfactant no allergens and 100% tolerance . it s the only think that my skin can tolerate i am sooo thankful i just want to help as i can feel your pain check there web site and pick the versione that suits your skin i use the fluide one as i have super oily skin they have the cream version for dry skin
It doesn't provide the ingredients . It only lists cotton oil, squalane and Niacinimide, but mentions there are 9-12 ingredients , they won't say what the other ingredients are which is odd. My hives are now covering my bsck even though I doubled the medication . These lasers do some serious damage , never had hives and now I've been on antihistamines 5 weeks and body getting used to them and do not suppress the hives anymore . I react this way to every cream . I put aveeno eczema on out of desperation , my face is so dry and then major hives . I even took an oral steroid ! So imagine all the inflammation in our skin, that's why it is si sensitive , orange peel, brown , red etc. Thr DNA is altered .
hi i looked for the packaging for you and the ingredients are : AQUA (PURIFIED WATER) . GOSSYPIUM HERBACEUM (COTTON SEED OIL). CORN STARCH MODIFIED. GLYCERIN. SQUALANE. NIACINAMIDE. TOCOPHEROL. 1.2-HEXANEDIOL. ACRYLATES/C10-30 ALKYL ACRYLATE CROSSPOLHMER. ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN. SODIUM HYDROXIDE. XANTHAN GUM
take a look at this brand it saved my life when my face was super inflammed i use the cleanser and the akute face cream it s a vegan brand here is the link http://www.dadosens.com/dadosens-fr/produits/probalance/probalance-akut-creme-apaisante-intense.html the brand is called "dado sens" i was on this routine for about 8 months the process is sooo slow but we can do it . just give it a try it s super gentle and the ingridients are listed in details in the web site .(sorry for my english)
Thank you so much . I used cerave again and had a massive flare up. It's hopeless , I use nothing and my skin cracks and I put on what I know what won't work but I get desperate . Do you know if anyone's texture improved ? We all have the same lines and dots and holes and bizarre patterns . Mine are bright white to top it off and I hsve areas the skin keeps coming off and red ugly marks underneath .
Your English is great. Are you olive tone? I am and so the damage is horrifying , the marks are so white and plastic like . Did you hsve laser ? What was your damage and how did you improve now? Thank you
My skin tone is medium . no i didnt had laser . my damage was from a very bad skin routine and diy masks that made my life to turn into a nightmare i would never imagine that a natural ingridients would harm my skin . i sufer from severe inflammation i couldnt sleep for months due to burning my face turned red then black and i expacted to peel but no i didnt peel . i went crying to the doctor. used the skute face cream from dado sens and the cleanser . the inflammation lasted for about 8 months and now i am left with tones of broken capillaries and a intolerant skin to every product to the heat to the sun ... also the famous orange peel texture + darkning in skin tone . even sunscrean hurts the worst think ever when you live in a city where the sun is always bright .now i am one year in this . i saw reviews of people healed dont panic . i will write theire usernames . people talk a lot about doctor Amir in turms of correcting the damage left by devices like lasers and dermapen .
why dont you start a review and put some photos so you can get more feedback
I'm happy to read your skin is beginning to improve! Looking forward to see follow-up pics and would love to see a before pic as well!
Had my laser Jan 8th it’s been almost 4 weeks. My face is still pretty red. But just started on all the skin care items they gave me. I just read that it is really important to follow up the laser treatment with the right skin care. Which also helps even out skin tone, and repair the new skin. Hope you are doing better.
What skin care products are you using?
Do you know how deep they did the peel (how many microns)? I wonder if they were too aggressive..? I haven't had this procedure, but I've been contemplating.