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Fue in Istanbul, Male Afro Caribbean Hair Type Experience
UPDATED FROM lloyd b
My final update 12/half months
lloyd bMay 6, 2017
$2,200
Hi everyone.
This is my final update on the progress of my hair transplant. I did my ht in mid april 2016 and the time since then has flown by.
The experience i encountered was an interesting one and one that i would not reverse. I believe my hair has improved alot from where it was.
In my experience i would say you go through a lot of emotions throughout the entire process. Frustration at the beginning when your hair falls out. Excitement when it starts growing. Then wanting more sets in when you realise it is growing and the procedure works.
I am now at that final stage where i know it works and i want to tweek things and make improvements. I now see where parts of my hair could be improved to get the best looking ht.
In my opinion my hairline needs to be stronger, i need more grafts in the mid section and my crown that wasnt touched needs filling. Essentially, i need more grafts in certain areas possibly in the range of 1000 to 2000 grafts.
The question you might want to know is would i use Estethica again for a second procedure and am i happy with the outcome after 12 months.
If im being really honest with myself i am undecided on whether i would use Estethica again. I am grateful for what they initially did with my ht but feel like the results could have been much better and i am not sure if this is down to their techniques or whether i just need a second ht. Like i said i am not entirely happy with my hairline and expected more density. So for my second ht i think i will possibly look elsewhere. The reason being because i think i only need a top up ht and not an extensive one.
I am happy with the outcome after 12 months but not ecstatically pleased and content. I think those who have had the procedure will understand where i am coming from.
If any one knows that saying, 'more money more problems' then its 'more hair more problems' ha ha!
I thank everyone who has followed my journey over the last 12 months and all the questions you have sent to me about the procedure i enjoyed answering when i could. I would say if anyone especially those with afro type hair are thinking about the procedure i'd say go ahead and get it done but depending on the extent of your hairloss you may need a second ht like myself.
Hope this journey inspired you to take action and good luck with your ht'! ????
This is my final update on the progress of my hair transplant. I did my ht in mid april 2016 and the time since then has flown by.
The experience i encountered was an interesting one and one that i would not reverse. I believe my hair has improved alot from where it was.
In my experience i would say you go through a lot of emotions throughout the entire process. Frustration at the beginning when your hair falls out. Excitement when it starts growing. Then wanting more sets in when you realise it is growing and the procedure works.
I am now at that final stage where i know it works and i want to tweek things and make improvements. I now see where parts of my hair could be improved to get the best looking ht.
In my opinion my hairline needs to be stronger, i need more grafts in the mid section and my crown that wasnt touched needs filling. Essentially, i need more grafts in certain areas possibly in the range of 1000 to 2000 grafts.
The question you might want to know is would i use Estethica again for a second procedure and am i happy with the outcome after 12 months.
If im being really honest with myself i am undecided on whether i would use Estethica again. I am grateful for what they initially did with my ht but feel like the results could have been much better and i am not sure if this is down to their techniques or whether i just need a second ht. Like i said i am not entirely happy with my hairline and expected more density. So for my second ht i think i will possibly look elsewhere. The reason being because i think i only need a top up ht and not an extensive one.
I am happy with the outcome after 12 months but not ecstatically pleased and content. I think those who have had the procedure will understand where i am coming from.
If any one knows that saying, 'more money more problems' then its 'more hair more problems' ha ha!
I thank everyone who has followed my journey over the last 12 months and all the questions you have sent to me about the procedure i enjoyed answering when i could. I would say if anyone especially those with afro type hair are thinking about the procedure i'd say go ahead and get it done but depending on the extent of your hairloss you may need a second ht like myself.
Hope this journey inspired you to take action and good luck with your ht'! ????
Replies (5)
May 7, 2017
Thank you for your honest review Lloyd. Your result is great, but if you believe that Estethica did not acheive the desired outcome, then go and explore other clinics. I was really set for Estethica, but your comments made me think a little bit.
May 7, 2017
Honesty as they say is the best policy and i want to be honest to others reading the review. That is not to say Estethica did not do a good job as i was told to expect to have a second procedure.
You have been researching for a long time now. I think if youre going to get it done do it soon. I dont know how old you are but the best time to have a transplant in my opinion is 25 to 40 when your body is at its peak. So come on camey38 get that ht done ha! :)
You have been researching for a long time now. I think if youre going to get it done do it soon. I dont know how old you are but the best time to have a transplant in my opinion is 25 to 40 when your body is at its peak. So come on camey38 get that ht done ha! :)
May 7, 2017
Lloyd i must say i am a fan of your hair and you were my very own inspiration of going to estethica. I previously had a small hair transplant of 2000 graphs and and have since had 4000 at estethica. I can tell you after my first procedure my feelings in some way mirrored yours, happy to have hair back on my head but at the same time wanting more.. I have to tell you it is my conclusion that quite simply it is a question of density.. more graphs verses less LOOKS BETTER.
Additionally i agree with you i that you hairline needs work. To be honest that was the weaker side of your transplant. Actually it was an element i was concentrating on when going to estehica. (i wasn't going to allow them to mess that up) I had a strict pre planned hairline. I spent 20 minutes making sure they got the design hairline marked out it perfectly before we commenced with the transplant. I am very sure if you plan your perfect hairline with a barber who is used to marking-up you can take this perfectly designed hairline to any clinic! and have them do that!
I have to say the expectation of one hair transplant being sufficient to cover a balding head is not realistic for everyone i would say two provides the required look! With the combination on these 2 elements your hair will look perfect. One love bro
Additionally i agree with you i that you hairline needs work. To be honest that was the weaker side of your transplant. Actually it was an element i was concentrating on when going to estehica. (i wasn't going to allow them to mess that up) I had a strict pre planned hairline. I spent 20 minutes making sure they got the design hairline marked out it perfectly before we commenced with the transplant. I am very sure if you plan your perfect hairline with a barber who is used to marking-up you can take this perfectly designed hairline to any clinic! and have them do that!
I have to say the expectation of one hair transplant being sufficient to cover a balding head is not realistic for everyone i would say two provides the required look! With the combination on these 2 elements your hair will look perfect. One love bro
May 7, 2017
Thanks jerry179.
I have followed your review also since you had it done. I'm glad you decided to go for it as most people just read reviews but don't take decisive action. It is true that one ht isnt enough in most cases and i know if i had a second the results would be perfect.
You stated that you told them to concentrate on your hairline, did you ask them to put more grafts in that area? Do you now see a marked difference in density now youve had a second ht?
Next time i will make sure hairline is looked into with detail.
I have followed your review also since you had it done. I'm glad you decided to go for it as most people just read reviews but don't take decisive action. It is true that one ht isnt enough in most cases and i know if i had a second the results would be perfect.
You stated that you told them to concentrate on your hairline, did you ask them to put more grafts in that area? Do you now see a marked difference in density now youve had a second ht?
Next time i will make sure hairline is looked into with detail.
May 7, 2017
I didn't ask for more graphs but i was very specific about how i wanted it and i rejected their first 3 designs/hairline plans until i had it perfectly the way i wanted it. My cousin has also been to Estethica after me and we were very particular planning his hairline with them this took over minutes. What i am saying is being extremely picky to decide what you want. I dont see how a surgeon will know the design of hairline that you want better that you! As for the surgery itself i found Estethica were way better that the Maral clinic with our hair type. I am going to update my review in the next 15 minutes so you can make a further judgement on my progress im at 4 months now and very happy. Ultimately i simple have had more graphs and improved all elements over first opp. plays a role here. Ultimately you just want the clinic to execute what you want. But i think they are great at putting the graphs in ;)
May 17, 2017
Hi all. Lloyd you have inspired a lot of us. Myself included. Me & a friend will be going to estethica Monday for possible ht. we have lots of Somali friends who've gone there. And look much better. I'm tired of wearing hats. Best of luck to all.
May 18, 2017
Hi reecey.jamal.
Thank you for following my journey. I'm glad that you found it helped in your decision to get a hair transplant. Yes you are so right! A lot of Somalis go to estethica to get the ht done. They are very experienced with afro hair so you should be in good hands. Just make sure they do your hairline correctly and bring your own mirror to view there work during and after the procedure.
Best of luck with your ht and future growth.
Thank you for following my journey. I'm glad that you found it helped in your decision to get a hair transplant. Yes you are so right! A lot of Somalis go to estethica to get the ht done. They are very experienced with afro hair so you should be in good hands. Just make sure they do your hairline correctly and bring your own mirror to view there work during and after the procedure.
Best of luck with your ht and future growth.
May 18, 2017
This may sound like a dumb question but I'm not sure what is the difference between Afro Carribean or Somalian hair vs African-American hair. Or is there a difference? I only ask because I haven't heard or seen any posts from an African-American who went to Estethica for their FUE. I'm AA and just hope that I can expect the same results as my African and Carribean brothers! Lol.
May 18, 2017
Hi wishandwich
Put simply there is no difference between the ethnicities of afro hair beneath the epidermis. What distinguishes black hair from caucasian hair is that the follicle under the scalp is sometimes curved or coiled and not straight which has made it somewhat difficult to perform hair transplants. However this problem is moreorless fading as ht doctors do more ht on afro hair as the popularity of getting it done increases and doctors become accustomed to our hair type.
Going back to your question there may be differences in texture of afro hair when it grows. Some hair is thicker than others some have curly hair or coarse hair but underneath the scalp afro follicles whether youre from the Caribbean, Africa, America is all the same. We are all one race of people whether you live in America, Caribbean or Europe and originate from Africa. Even if you are mixed say with white European you can still have afro textured hair and have a curled follicle under the scalp.
Hope that helps answer your question.
Put simply there is no difference between the ethnicities of afro hair beneath the epidermis. What distinguishes black hair from caucasian hair is that the follicle under the scalp is sometimes curved or coiled and not straight which has made it somewhat difficult to perform hair transplants. However this problem is moreorless fading as ht doctors do more ht on afro hair as the popularity of getting it done increases and doctors become accustomed to our hair type.
Going back to your question there may be differences in texture of afro hair when it grows. Some hair is thicker than others some have curly hair or coarse hair but underneath the scalp afro follicles whether youre from the Caribbean, Africa, America is all the same. We are all one race of people whether you live in America, Caribbean or Europe and originate from Africa. Even if you are mixed say with white European you can still have afro textured hair and have a curled follicle under the scalp.
Hope that helps answer your question.
June 13, 2017
Hey lloyd can you give me the contact information or the app that you used to get into contact with the people that preformed your surgery?
June 13, 2017
Hi
I sent that info to you when you requested it in a private message some time ago.
I sent that info to you when you requested it in a private message some time ago.
May 8, 2017
Looks great Lloyd, ill be going to esthetica too soon. I think you are being harsh on your results lol. I think they look great. You went from basically bald to a full head of hair. Just go for another session and get them to address crown, hairline and midscalp and youll be happy im sure.
May 9, 2017
Thanks Izunna18
Looking back from where i was i do see a huge difference. So its all good. Like you said a few things need to be addressed. Hope everything goes well with your ht when you get it done. You wont regret doing it just make sure you tell the doctors and techs what you want and how you want your hairline to look and everything should go well for you.
Looking back from where i was i do see a huge difference. So its all good. Like you said a few things need to be addressed. Hope everything goes well with your ht when you get it done. You wont regret doing it just make sure you tell the doctors and techs what you want and how you want your hairline to look and everything should go well for you.
UPDATED FROM lloyd b
10 months post ht: I think i have reached my peak?
lloyd bFebruary 15, 2017
Hi all
It is now been 10 months since i had my ht. In the two months since my last post i dont think much has changed. I think the hairs have thickened a little but i dont really see the change because i see it every day. I think now i have reached the peak of growth and nothing much will change in the next two months but who knows.
On the whole i would say i am happy with the procedure. I now know that it works for my hair type so if i wanted to get a second ht that is a viable option. I am considering it.
I am still taking biotin daily and multi vitamins. I wash hair once every two weeks as my hair gets brittle and dry if i wash it too often. I still use coconut oil pomade. Thats about all for now. I have attached pics of my current look and a before and after pic.
It is now been 10 months since i had my ht. In the two months since my last post i dont think much has changed. I think the hairs have thickened a little but i dont really see the change because i see it every day. I think now i have reached the peak of growth and nothing much will change in the next two months but who knows.
On the whole i would say i am happy with the procedure. I now know that it works for my hair type so if i wanted to get a second ht that is a viable option. I am considering it.
I am still taking biotin daily and multi vitamins. I wash hair once every two weeks as my hair gets brittle and dry if i wash it too often. I still use coconut oil pomade. Thats about all for now. I have attached pics of my current look and a before and after pic.
Replies (5)
February 15, 2017
That's looks amazing! How much was this procedure please all in. It looks good value but wanted to make sure it wasn't a typo! I'm of African descent so Im very interested,thank u for sharing. Your density looks brillaint and it'll get denser still. I say this politely but have u considered using natural products like coconut oils, jojoba oils etc. Pomade etc really kills african hair I find.
Many thanks again for sharing this.
Many thanks again for sharing this.
February 15, 2017
Dude you look awesome... Can't tell you was bald before. Huge improvement.
It will thicken for a few more months I'd of thought.
It will thicken for a few more months I'd of thought.
February 15, 2017
Thanks Dmac2017
Looking back to where i was 10 months ago definitely a massive improvement. I hope you are right and i still have more growth to come.
Looking back to where i was 10 months ago definitely a massive improvement. I hope you are right and i still have more growth to come.
February 15, 2017
Hi Driver rider
Thanks. It definitely isn't a typo the procedure was around that price. I'm from the UK so at the time it was £1550 which before the drop in the pound was about $2200. You are right i should try the oils instead to see if they help with growth. Will take your advice.
Thanks. It definitely isn't a typo the procedure was around that price. I'm from the UK so at the time it was £1550 which before the drop in the pound was about $2200. You are right i should try the oils instead to see if they help with growth. Will take your advice.
February 18, 2017
Hi great result Lloyd! I have similar afro hair and looking for same. In terms of price (£1550) was everything included in this price I.e accommodation etc?
UPDATED FROM lloyd b
8 months post HT: happy with growth but want more density
lloyd bDecember 13, 2016
Hi all!
It is now 8 months since i had my ht and two months since i last posted an update on my results. I must say i am happy with how things have panned out with the growth of the hairs. However, id like that bit more density and i now know if i was to have a second procedure the density would be just right.
I still have four months left before they say results are complete so possibly i might get more density within that time.
Im very grateful for the results i have so far especially when i look back at how my scalp used to look.
In terms of my hair regimen i wash my hair once every two weeks just so my hair doesnt become overly dry and brittle. I use an aloe vera shampoo. I use hair pomades, one with coconut oil another with other herbs in. I take a multivitimin and 5000mcg of biotin daily.
Below are pictures all under room light except 1 which was taken in natural daylight. I also flicked out my hair with an afro comb to show length of the hair. Damn i never thought id use an afro comb again ha ha!
Next update im thinking of experimenting and using a curling sponge to style it to get some curls. If anyone doesnt know what im talking about just "youtube" "nuolux"
New look for new year!
Hope every ones hair journey goes great for new year!
It is now 8 months since i had my ht and two months since i last posted an update on my results. I must say i am happy with how things have panned out with the growth of the hairs. However, id like that bit more density and i now know if i was to have a second procedure the density would be just right.
I still have four months left before they say results are complete so possibly i might get more density within that time.
Im very grateful for the results i have so far especially when i look back at how my scalp used to look.
In terms of my hair regimen i wash my hair once every two weeks just so my hair doesnt become overly dry and brittle. I use an aloe vera shampoo. I use hair pomades, one with coconut oil another with other herbs in. I take a multivitimin and 5000mcg of biotin daily.
Below are pictures all under room light except 1 which was taken in natural daylight. I also flicked out my hair with an afro comb to show length of the hair. Damn i never thought id use an afro comb again ha ha!
Next update im thinking of experimenting and using a curling sponge to style it to get some curls. If anyone doesnt know what im talking about just "youtube" "nuolux"
New look for new year!
Hope every ones hair journey goes great for new year!
Replies (5)
December 13, 2016
Nice one man and thanks for this great update
December 14, 2016
Congrats bro, you were my inspiration on getting mine done at the same clinic. Thanks for the updates
December 14, 2016
I had mine done on Dec 5th, so 9 days ago. Jale was great and they really look after you whilst over there.
December 14, 2016
That's great you finally got it done. Now you understand what im talking about since youve had it done. They understand afro hair as so many guys go there to have it done.
Very early stage but you should have good results.
Very early stage but you should have good results.
December 16, 2016
Indeed they do Obero. So you are at that really early stage. By spring time you should have nice hair growth. By summer you will be so happy with the results. Keep us posted.
December 16, 2016
Obero meaning me and you were on the same day in the clinic. Let's see how our results will be. I hope for the best.
December 18, 2016
Hi tman87
I dont really understand your point. If you go through my entire review i think its self evident from where i started from.
I dont really understand your point. If you go through my entire review i think its self evident from where i started from.
December 14, 2016
Looking lloyd!! I hear you on the growth and can relate to the wanting of more density :-))) either way hair looking good ! Goodbye bald spot hello new hair :-)
December 14, 2016
Thanks Pearl! Maybe we are expecting too much when it comes to density. Definitely goodbye to the bald spots, didnt think it would happen.
Yours is looking good too.
Yours is looking good too.
December 16, 2016
Lloyd, you are looking like a boss! Looking at the results you are getting is making me want to climb off the fence and just go ahead and do it! I guess my biggest concern is scarring and/or depleting my donor area (neither appears to be an issue with you). Would you happen to know what size punch they used to extract your grafts? Did they extract/implant manually or use a robot?
December 16, 2016
Ha ha! Thanks bro. Yes you should definitely come off that fence and get it done if you really want to do it. Do you have limited donar left?
Not sure of the punch used but it is extremely small. They extracted and implanted grafts manually not with a robot. Two people did the extracting.
Not sure of the punch used but it is extremely small. They extracted and implanted grafts manually not with a robot. Two people did the extracting.
December 16, 2016
I probably should have said I'm concerned about them over grafting, leaving the back of my head spotty. I haven't had a HT before, so I guess my donor area is okay. Did they have you take pics of your donor area too, so they could decide if you had enough?
December 17, 2016
If you have very thin donar area then this maybe a concern. You have to send them pictures and they will assess your situation.
To find a doctor that pays attention to the finer detail is really the challenge. I hope i will find that and i'll post again if and when i do.