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325cc HP Sub-glandular, and capsular contracture. Not Happy. Eyelid surgery too.
UPDATED FROM tam53
1 year post
Glad this nightmare if finally over!
tam53April 11, 2016
It's now been 8 months since I had a different doctor (Vitenas) redo what Dr. Rose could not fix. I have a 2nd review in the Breast Revision category with a couple of photos showing before and after. I finally got the natural shape and soft breasts that Dr. Rose could not give me.
It's odd that Dr. Rose only had a few reviews in over 3 years before mine, and I just noticed there were 3 generic ones posted within 5 days just recently. Anyone else think that's strange?
He's an old school doctor still doing things other doctors don't recommend. For example, my new doctor and another one I considered, told me they would only do a lower bleph surgery on patients over 70 years old. And even then be very selective because there are too many risks involved. Both other doctors were baffled that he recommended the surgery for my wrinkles.
I'm still living in daily turmoil over my decision to allow Dr. Rose to do the lower lid surgery, and not get a 2nd opinion. I was never told I would have scars extending from outer corners and scar tissue developed a vertical crease. It didn't do a damn thing for my wrinkles but make them deeper from removing fat.
I suspect Dr. Rose must deal with a higher percentage of patients developing capsular contracture. It's apparently a regular thing for patients to come in and have him pop the capsule (closed capsulectomy). When I first suspected I had it, the nurse explained what he would do over the phone. Then at my office visit a different nurse thought I had already been in once to do it, mistaking me for someone else, then going on to explain he may have to pop it a few times. I've since learned this procedure is frowned upon in the medical industry - just do a search on it, you'll see what I mean. It left me with hematoma and seroma, and emergency surgery. Of course I no longer have any feeling in my right breast.
Anyway, I just wanted to update and let everyone know my revision with Dr. Vitenas went very well. The nightmare if finally over!
It's odd that Dr. Rose only had a few reviews in over 3 years before mine, and I just noticed there were 3 generic ones posted within 5 days just recently. Anyone else think that's strange?
He's an old school doctor still doing things other doctors don't recommend. For example, my new doctor and another one I considered, told me they would only do a lower bleph surgery on patients over 70 years old. And even then be very selective because there are too many risks involved. Both other doctors were baffled that he recommended the surgery for my wrinkles.
I'm still living in daily turmoil over my decision to allow Dr. Rose to do the lower lid surgery, and not get a 2nd opinion. I was never told I would have scars extending from outer corners and scar tissue developed a vertical crease. It didn't do a damn thing for my wrinkles but make them deeper from removing fat.
I suspect Dr. Rose must deal with a higher percentage of patients developing capsular contracture. It's apparently a regular thing for patients to come in and have him pop the capsule (closed capsulectomy). When I first suspected I had it, the nurse explained what he would do over the phone. Then at my office visit a different nurse thought I had already been in once to do it, mistaking me for someone else, then going on to explain he may have to pop it a few times. I've since learned this procedure is frowned upon in the medical industry - just do a search on it, you'll see what I mean. It left me with hematoma and seroma, and emergency surgery. Of course I no longer have any feeling in my right breast.
Anyway, I just wanted to update and let everyone know my revision with Dr. Vitenas went very well. The nightmare if finally over!
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UPDATED FROM tam53
7 months post
Will try to post this one again... Only a paragraph & 1/2 posted above after I wrote this long review.
tam53August 30, 2015
Just thinking about all the times my doctor disregarded my questions with "Don't worry about that."
During recovery I think most of us have concerns that we're healing as expected and occasionally question something that just doesn’t look right. Sometimes it's really nothing and that reassurance is comforting. Sometimes we know something isn’t right though, and need an explanation, just for peace of mind if anything.
There were several instances during my recovery with the eyelid surgery and BA that I just couldn’t get an answer. This caused unnecessary anguish. I came here to this site for all my answers, and of course you have to question... does that one really pertain to my issue or is it only in my mind. Am I just going through that after surgery depression I keep reading about? Or do I really have an issue?
After my first revision 8 weeks after original BA, when right implant was replaced, I pointed out an indention in my cleavage and asked if it was anything I should be concerned about. He answered not to worry about it, and things look really good. Again, comparing to my appearance prior to the emergency surgery (you’ve got to look at my photo in the Q&A emergency question... to compare to that, is ridiculous). Granted, his main concern at that time was not developing another seroma, but I still had a question that was very important to me that could have been answered. Even if that answer was, I’m not sure, let’s give it a few weeks and take another look. Instead it was just disregarded. That indention got tighter and eventually I could feel bumps that I thought was my bone. I only finally learned at my first consultation with my new PS that is was a ripple from my implant. So I spent the last 7 months thinking that he must have had to remove some of my breast tissue when he removed the capsule in my revision surgery. What else could have caused a dent? Why couldn’t he had just told me it was an implant ripple? I don’t have it now, so that’s obviously what it was.
I’ve already mentioned things about my BA results in prior posts. So to my BA pals, sorry but I’m going to include some details about my eyelid surgery on this review too. I’ve decided to add my doctor and don’t think it’s necessary to write 2 separate reviews.
During my initial consultation for the BA, I asked if I was a good candidate for Botox for the wrinkles under my eyes. He answered, that is surgical. When the eyelid surgery was recommended, I was told an incision would be made along the crease in upper lid, and just under the lash line. The scars would be hidden very well. Seemed simple enough. In all 3 meetings prior to my surgery Dr. Rose lifted the skin under my lid and made simple comments about just tightening that up a little. I researched photos and found that the scars are indeed hidden very well in the upper lid surgery as well as under the lash line. At my pre-op I asked about some photos I had seen where the upper lid scar extended past the outer corner of the eye. Dr. Rose assured me mine would not. And it didn’t, but that was an opportune time to tell me the lower lid surgery would. Not once in the 3 meetings prior to my surgery was I told I would have a scar from the outer corner of each lid. Had I been told that, I wouldn’t have done the surgery. Between the BA, the upper lid, and lower lid procedures, it was the scar under lash line that I was most concerned about and took me weeks to decide whether or not to do it.
The day after surgery post-op appt, I said “I didn’t realize I would bruise so bad under my lids since we weren’t removing any fat.” Dr. Rose looked at his nurse then down, then went on to another subject. I had really bad dark bruising for 5 weeks by the way. I expressed distress at the stitches extending down from the outer corner of each lid, he responded “Oh, don’t worry about that.”
About 3 weeks later he was examining my eyes saying how great everything looked, and casually mentioned something about the fat removed. My knees got weak and my heart sank. I said, “But I didn’t have fat pockets. We never discussed removing fat”. I asked him to show me exactly where the fat was removed but he changed the subject, “Oh, don’t worry about that.”
They say you don’t get the final results from an eyelid surgery for about a year. I have spent the last 7 months comparing photos, praying, he didn’t remove what volume I did have under my eyes. If only he would have answered my question and showed me where the fat was removed, I may not have gone through the turmoil that I have. I haven’t a clue if that’s just part of this surgery and everyone does it, he didn’t discuss it. I do however plan to ask my new PS about it once I recover from the revision breast surgery I did last week. I honestly don’t see much of a difference, except one spot, where the darkest of my bruising was ironically. I’ve come to terms with it. Going to look into some fillers though.
About 5 weeks post op the outer corner of my eyelids became tight and created a vertical crease. He didn’t see it. “Oh, don’t worry about that. Massage and you may want to try some Botox to relax it.” At about 8 weeks I expressed concern about the raised white scars (that I was never told I would have) in outer corners, and his response “Don’t worry about that. You are only 2 months out and that will eventually fade into tiny white lines”. Not once in the 3 meetings prior to my surgery was I told I would have any, NO MATTER HOW TINY, white scars on the outer corners of my lids. I don’t wear much make up either. Just powder and mascara.
All the same wrinkles are still present under my lids. Dr. Rose never took any pre-op photos of my eyes, but of course I did. From the tightness in outer corners, a crease has formed under my lid. So I actually have more wrinkles now. It’s mostly just noticeable when I smile and/or look to the right or left. I’ll upload photos of the vertical crease, that I don’t think is quite bad enough to call webbing, but I’m not sure. It’s the first thing I see each time I look in the mirror though.
I 100% percent regret doing the lower lid surgery. It was unnecessary. I did not need it. I can only guess if I had gotten a couple other consultations, someone would have told me not to do it. Try Botox or fillers before letting someone cut on your face. I feel absolutely stupid for doing the lower lids.
I do however love my upper lid surgery. It was well done. My father did it at age 74, his lids were so heavy he could barely see, and I wanted to do it early in life when no one could really tell I had work done. The scar on inner half of each lid is white, but I have read here on this site (not told by my doctor), that can happen and is normal.
As far as my breast implants, most doctors will agree that a high profile implant placed over the muscle does not give you a natural result. I have thought about doing a BA for 20 years, but my biggest fear was it appearing fake, or something going wrong. Both happened. I expressed strongly that I wanted a natural slope, not rounded on top, “I want my breast to look like they do now, but bigger.” That surely didn’t happen. Capsular contracture is a risk and I do not blame my doctor for that, but the outcome was obviously a fake look regardless. Even Dr. Rose said I looked great 2 weeks before I had them redone. That’s his idea of how boobs are supposed to look I guess?
For anyone that didn’t read my very long first post, I went to a follow up appointment in May and expressed concern about the shelf, instead of slope, how hard they were and how odd my bathing suit and bra straps appear with a huge gap under the strap, and that I’ve spent hundreds of dollars trying to find a comfortable bra. It hurt to lay on my stomach. I actually did try to get a massage 2 months ago, and it was so painful, but I was embarrassed to have him stop. I’m a quite person, a professional type, I own a business, not someone that would show anger or have a meltdown. I reached out to my doctor for help and asked him for options, but Dr. Rose basically walked out on me and said maybe I’ll get used to them, see you in 6-8 weeks.
I went to my final follow up appointment end of July, mainly to see if he had a different outlook, now that he realized I was not going to “get used to them”. By this point, my right implant has become quite painful, especially after being active. Dr. Rose didn’t want to remove my implants because he was concerned about how bad the seroma was prior to emergency surgery (after he performed a closed capsulectomy), and there is a risk of seroma when explanting. I asked about the Strattice, and he said it’s only used for padding/pocket repair. I suppose if he doesn’t have experience using it for cc, then he shouldn’t discuss it. Understandable. He said he “wouldn’t do anything, they look good”. I said, “You wouldn’t do anything? But my right one aches.”. He disregarded my pain comment and confirmed he wouldn’t do anything.
Hopefully if Dr. Rose actually ever reads my review, he will look into doing revisions with Strattice for cc. There are many doctors doing this with great success. I truly hope I will be one of those successful statistics. I’ll start a 2nd review in the Breast Revision category and we’ll see!
I've uploaded a few photos of the eyelid surgery.
During recovery I think most of us have concerns that we're healing as expected and occasionally question something that just doesn’t look right. Sometimes it's really nothing and that reassurance is comforting. Sometimes we know something isn’t right though, and need an explanation, just for peace of mind if anything.
There were several instances during my recovery with the eyelid surgery and BA that I just couldn’t get an answer. This caused unnecessary anguish. I came here to this site for all my answers, and of course you have to question... does that one really pertain to my issue or is it only in my mind. Am I just going through that after surgery depression I keep reading about? Or do I really have an issue?
After my first revision 8 weeks after original BA, when right implant was replaced, I pointed out an indention in my cleavage and asked if it was anything I should be concerned about. He answered not to worry about it, and things look really good. Again, comparing to my appearance prior to the emergency surgery (you’ve got to look at my photo in the Q&A emergency question... to compare to that, is ridiculous). Granted, his main concern at that time was not developing another seroma, but I still had a question that was very important to me that could have been answered. Even if that answer was, I’m not sure, let’s give it a few weeks and take another look. Instead it was just disregarded. That indention got tighter and eventually I could feel bumps that I thought was my bone. I only finally learned at my first consultation with my new PS that is was a ripple from my implant. So I spent the last 7 months thinking that he must have had to remove some of my breast tissue when he removed the capsule in my revision surgery. What else could have caused a dent? Why couldn’t he had just told me it was an implant ripple? I don’t have it now, so that’s obviously what it was.
I’ve already mentioned things about my BA results in prior posts. So to my BA pals, sorry but I’m going to include some details about my eyelid surgery on this review too. I’ve decided to add my doctor and don’t think it’s necessary to write 2 separate reviews.
During my initial consultation for the BA, I asked if I was a good candidate for Botox for the wrinkles under my eyes. He answered, that is surgical. When the eyelid surgery was recommended, I was told an incision would be made along the crease in upper lid, and just under the lash line. The scars would be hidden very well. Seemed simple enough. In all 3 meetings prior to my surgery Dr. Rose lifted the skin under my lid and made simple comments about just tightening that up a little. I researched photos and found that the scars are indeed hidden very well in the upper lid surgery as well as under the lash line. At my pre-op I asked about some photos I had seen where the upper lid scar extended past the outer corner of the eye. Dr. Rose assured me mine would not. And it didn’t, but that was an opportune time to tell me the lower lid surgery would. Not once in the 3 meetings prior to my surgery was I told I would have a scar from the outer corner of each lid. Had I been told that, I wouldn’t have done the surgery. Between the BA, the upper lid, and lower lid procedures, it was the scar under lash line that I was most concerned about and took me weeks to decide whether or not to do it.
The day after surgery post-op appt, I said “I didn’t realize I would bruise so bad under my lids since we weren’t removing any fat.” Dr. Rose looked at his nurse then down, then went on to another subject. I had really bad dark bruising for 5 weeks by the way. I expressed distress at the stitches extending down from the outer corner of each lid, he responded “Oh, don’t worry about that.”
About 3 weeks later he was examining my eyes saying how great everything looked, and casually mentioned something about the fat removed. My knees got weak and my heart sank. I said, “But I didn’t have fat pockets. We never discussed removing fat”. I asked him to show me exactly where the fat was removed but he changed the subject, “Oh, don’t worry about that.”
They say you don’t get the final results from an eyelid surgery for about a year. I have spent the last 7 months comparing photos, praying, he didn’t remove what volume I did have under my eyes. If only he would have answered my question and showed me where the fat was removed, I may not have gone through the turmoil that I have. I haven’t a clue if that’s just part of this surgery and everyone does it, he didn’t discuss it. I do however plan to ask my new PS about it once I recover from the revision breast surgery I did last week. I honestly don’t see much of a difference, except one spot, where the darkest of my bruising was ironically. I’ve come to terms with it. Going to look into some fillers though.
About 5 weeks post op the outer corner of my eyelids became tight and created a vertical crease. He didn’t see it. “Oh, don’t worry about that. Massage and you may want to try some Botox to relax it.” At about 8 weeks I expressed concern about the raised white scars (that I was never told I would have) in outer corners, and his response “Don’t worry about that. You are only 2 months out and that will eventually fade into tiny white lines”. Not once in the 3 meetings prior to my surgery was I told I would have any, NO MATTER HOW TINY, white scars on the outer corners of my lids. I don’t wear much make up either. Just powder and mascara.
All the same wrinkles are still present under my lids. Dr. Rose never took any pre-op photos of my eyes, but of course I did. From the tightness in outer corners, a crease has formed under my lid. So I actually have more wrinkles now. It’s mostly just noticeable when I smile and/or look to the right or left. I’ll upload photos of the vertical crease, that I don’t think is quite bad enough to call webbing, but I’m not sure. It’s the first thing I see each time I look in the mirror though.
I 100% percent regret doing the lower lid surgery. It was unnecessary. I did not need it. I can only guess if I had gotten a couple other consultations, someone would have told me not to do it. Try Botox or fillers before letting someone cut on your face. I feel absolutely stupid for doing the lower lids.
I do however love my upper lid surgery. It was well done. My father did it at age 74, his lids were so heavy he could barely see, and I wanted to do it early in life when no one could really tell I had work done. The scar on inner half of each lid is white, but I have read here on this site (not told by my doctor), that can happen and is normal.
As far as my breast implants, most doctors will agree that a high profile implant placed over the muscle does not give you a natural result. I have thought about doing a BA for 20 years, but my biggest fear was it appearing fake, or something going wrong. Both happened. I expressed strongly that I wanted a natural slope, not rounded on top, “I want my breast to look like they do now, but bigger.” That surely didn’t happen. Capsular contracture is a risk and I do not blame my doctor for that, but the outcome was obviously a fake look regardless. Even Dr. Rose said I looked great 2 weeks before I had them redone. That’s his idea of how boobs are supposed to look I guess?
For anyone that didn’t read my very long first post, I went to a follow up appointment in May and expressed concern about the shelf, instead of slope, how hard they were and how odd my bathing suit and bra straps appear with a huge gap under the strap, and that I’ve spent hundreds of dollars trying to find a comfortable bra. It hurt to lay on my stomach. I actually did try to get a massage 2 months ago, and it was so painful, but I was embarrassed to have him stop. I’m a quite person, a professional type, I own a business, not someone that would show anger or have a meltdown. I reached out to my doctor for help and asked him for options, but Dr. Rose basically walked out on me and said maybe I’ll get used to them, see you in 6-8 weeks.
I went to my final follow up appointment end of July, mainly to see if he had a different outlook, now that he realized I was not going to “get used to them”. By this point, my right implant has become quite painful, especially after being active. Dr. Rose didn’t want to remove my implants because he was concerned about how bad the seroma was prior to emergency surgery (after he performed a closed capsulectomy), and there is a risk of seroma when explanting. I asked about the Strattice, and he said it’s only used for padding/pocket repair. I suppose if he doesn’t have experience using it for cc, then he shouldn’t discuss it. Understandable. He said he “wouldn’t do anything, they look good”. I said, “You wouldn’t do anything? But my right one aches.”. He disregarded my pain comment and confirmed he wouldn’t do anything.
Hopefully if Dr. Rose actually ever reads my review, he will look into doing revisions with Strattice for cc. There are many doctors doing this with great success. I truly hope I will be one of those successful statistics. I’ll start a 2nd review in the Breast Revision category and we’ll see!
I've uploaded a few photos of the eyelid surgery.
Replies (2)
September 6, 2015
Wow! I have read your entire story. (not the new review on your new PS). I am so sorry for all you have been through. It's so sad and so unfair. It really bums me out bc I need a revision and was about to make an appt w/Dr.Rose. ugggh. No thanks! I have to pass on him. He actually did a revision on me 14 years ago and I was very happy. But what you went through is just WRONG! B/C of everything you wrote, I will definitely not be going to Rose, nor will my friends. So thank you for that. I am anxious to hear how you are doing now and if you are happy. Also, can you share with me the other drs you interviewed and your feelings as well on Dr. Vitienes. You sound intelligent, sound minded, kind and fair with realustic expectations. I applaud you for your honest review. Thank you! Please help me by telling me your thought on drs. You can pm me if u like.XXOO
September 7, 2015
Dr.Vitenas made certain I understood exactly what to expect, such as a longer scar because he needed more room to work. He covered all options, even gave me a quote to just explant if I chose. My second choice, and it was a tough decision because he was a few thousand less, was Dr. Boynton. The main reason I didn't go with Boynton was he said he may end up using the same size implant and I didn't want to risk ending up with high profile. They both said they would determine size in surgery but considering my body and desire for a natural outcome, Vitinas told me right off that a hp was definitely not a good choice and he would not do it. I also really liked the private facility he has. I searched for doctors with experience using Strattice for cc, but did just select another at random for grins. Schumsterman would have just explanted and was not the type of environment I was looking for. I'm about 2 1/2 weeks post now and very pleased with the 3 follow up appts I've had. I can already tell I am going to get the natural outcome I wanted.
January 31, 2016
Hi Hon ! Thank you for sharing your experience! I am going through similar pain physically and mentally ! In 6 month I had 3 surgeries and waiting for the fourth one. I had My first BA in July 2015 over the muscle with 500cc. Two month later developed CC in my left breast, had 2-nd surgery 11/19/15 . My PS removed CC and replaced both implants with textured ones he reassured me that textured implants are designed to prevent CC . Two weeks later I developed Seroma in my left breast. 12/05/15 back to the surgery room to drain blood . But it wasn't over! Back to CC on left side !!! I know exactly haw you felt having something that looks and feels like a rock in your chest! I was told that my only option is stractise under the muscle if want to have implants. Yahhh! I paid $12K so far to leave in nightmare that I am now! So I decided to go for stractise. I am so glad your nightmare is over gives me a hope that there is a light in the end of the tunnel ! Let me know how are you doing. God bless!
February 8, 2016
Oh my.. you DO know don't you! It's been almost 6 months since my 3rd surgery switching to under and using strattice (with a different doctor - see new review in Revision), and I am happy to report normal boobs! I do have a larger scar but it is worth it. Make sure to select a doctor that is experienced is preventing cc by using strattice.
UPDATED FROM tam53
7 months post
Just thinking about all the times my doctor disregarded my questions with "Don't worry about that."
tam53August 26, 2015
During recovery I think most of us have concerns that we're healing as expected and occasionally question something that just doesnt look right. Sometimes it's really nothing and that reassurance is comforting. Sometimes we know something isnt right though, and need an explanation.
There were several instances during my recovery with the eyelid surgery and BA that I just couldnt get an answer.
There were several instances during my recovery with the eyelid surgery and BA that I just couldnt get an answer.
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August 26, 2015
I just wrote a very long review and only the beginning posted. I guess I'll write it again tomorrow :(
August 27, 2015
Hi. Thanks for sharing your journey. Have you done revision yet? I have been following/researching fat transfer to the breasts. It could be a great alternative to implants. I encourage you to check it out. Good luck
August 26, 2015
What PS you go to? I went to get consultations from three different PS in Houston. I just want to make sure not the same PS that you have reading you story it make me nervous. I hope anything work out for you soon
August 27, 2015
I've been trying to decide whether or not to post the doctor. I hate to give a bad review, but I can't honestly give a good review if I do. I certainly don't blame him for the capsular contracture, that's just a risk we all take. There is a lot more to my experience though. I'll write the rest of it and decide whether or not to post the doctor. I'll message you for now though.
Shortly thereafter, the post had been removed. Each time I mentioned reading reviews, Rose would get a strange look on his face. I subsequently learned, don't exactly remember how, though, whether it was on this site on yelp, or some other search engine, that Dr. Rose has an attorney that addresses all reviews and has them removed using legal maneuvers. When I couldn't find the one from the person that I had spoken to about her surgery, it started to make since to me.
I had also started a review about my personal experience with him, but somehow lost it. Bottom line is that he lied to me about consulting with an oculoplastic surgeon regarding reconstruction of my eyes that had been previously botched, and said that oculoplastic surgeons only treat diseases of the eye, such as cancer. I proceed to make an appointment anyway, with one of the best known oculoplastic surgeons in Houston. He told me that he indeed could help me AND that it would be covered by my insurance. There was another person in the area that overheard us discussing Dr. Rose, who interjected by saying, "run Forrest, run." I took their advice.