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325cc HP Sub-glandular, and capsular contracture. Not Happy. Eyelid surgery too.

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Hello all, I have contemplated writing a review...

tam53
Hello all, I have contemplated writing a review for quite a while. Since my roller coaster is still on full throttle I figured it's as good a time as any. I had my BA 6 months ago at age 47. I was a small 34B. I wanted a natural look, not too big, would be happy with a large C. The first and only doctor I visited explained the pros and cons of going over the muscle verses under, and that he did not want to go under. I am a fitness nut so it made sense to go sub-glandular.

At my first appointment with my PS, I never saw any implants, or discussed the different profiles available, I wasn’t measured. I explained what I wanted and he said 325cc would most likely be a good choice and he would make final decision during surgery. So I left it up to him. I considered visiting 2 other doctors but I really liked my doctor and just didn't see any reason to. He is very well known, the celebrity doctor in our area, and assured me he's done over 6000 BAs and knows what he's doing. Before leaving my first appointment I asked him if Botox would help some wrinkles under my eye. He answered "that's surgical" and explained the upper and lower eyelid surgery. I had considered doing my upper lids in the future, but I never realized lower lid surgery would smooth out wrinkles (it doesn't by the way). My quote included a discount to do all and I decided I may as well do it all at once.

This was my very first surgery and I was more nervous about the general anesthesia than anything. Everything went smoothly though. The pain wasn't too bad. I was very surprised however to see High Profile on my implant card. I said as much a few days later at a follow up appointment, and he answered that I won't have ripples with HP and that I can still expect that natural teardrop shape.
I massaged as instructed, and went back to the gym at 6 weeks doing legs only. At 7 weeks on Monday I did a couple of arm exercises with light weight during my workout. Wednesday morning my right implant wouldn't move in the pocket and was high. I developed capsular contracture in my right breast at 7 weeks.

That day my doctor performed a closed capsulotomy (he squeezed my implant until the capsule popped). It sort of felt like bubble wrap popping. It hurt. It was immediately softer though. The nurse wrapped me tight in a wrap that I wore for about 24+ hours.

By Monday it was high and tight again. I was feeling pretty low and figured going to the gym would probably help my spirits. I read online that lots of girls work out with capsular contracture, and my doctor didn't say to take it easy or anything. So I did some light weight at the gym Monday, went to the Rodeo Tuesday, just got back to life.

By Wednesday afternoon my right breast was extremely swollen. I already had an appointment to see my PS the upcoming Monday but wasn't sure if I should wait. I spoke to the nurse and she had me text her a photo. She showed it to my doctor and texted back "I showed him the photo he said come in Monday ". Thursday it was a little more swollen so I decided to post a photo to the doctors here. I knew my doctor was in surgery Thur/Fri so didn't know what to do. They assured me I needed to make contact again. He returned my call quickly, had me send him a photo, and called me several times that evening to check on me. He was going to meet me at the hospital that night but I felt comfortable waiting until Friday morning.

It was hematoma and seroma. My right implant was replaced at 8 weeks and he removed some of the capsule. I’m guessing I must have had some fluid building up then exercise made it worse. After surgery I was prescribed Singulair to help prevent cc from recurring. My PS was very compassionate, kept telling me how sorry he was and how rare this was. He actually had only seen one case similar to mine in 30 years, and that patient had contributing health issues.

One month after replacing my right implant, my left breast became firmer. It didn’t ride high like the right though. Then a couple weeks later righty got firm again and started aching. My right one stayed higher after the revision surgery. It was actually slightly lower before BA. My PS said it was due to scar tissue. I know they can’t predict how the scar tissue will heal so, it is what it is.

At my follow up appointment in May I expressed concern about how hard they both are, the shape (no slope), and the ache. I asked what my options were, what I would look like if I decide to explant, if we should consider going under the muscle since lower cc risk. He didn’t want to discuss going under and said he was concerned about explanting since I experienced so much seroma. He referred to how much better they looked now, comparing to how they looked at emergency surgery, and considering my experience, I should be satisfied with a little asymmetry. He appeared uncomfortable and rushed out saying, maybe you’ll get used to it, see you in 6-8 weeks.

I know they were not “twins” before and I am ok with a little asymmetry, but they are hard and my right one aches. I am embarrassed to wear a bathing suit because they look fake and are hard. I’m afraid to hug people, I can’t find a pretty bra that fits right, most bras hurt. My most comfortable bra doesn’t have a wire or lining and it’s a 34DDD, and still has a gap under the strap on right side. Top Drawer sold me a 32 F! At least it has a lining.

So I visited a few other surgeons last week and learned Strattice is being used for CC, with amazing results. I read a study that was done on 75 patients for CC, follow up was up to 4 years, with no recurrences. 2 of the doctors I met with said they have had no recurrences. It’s very expensive though.

I must say, I was impressed with the new patient process at 2 of the PS offices. I was shown implants, measured, examined and told I had Bakers Grade 3 at one, and the other PS said Grade 3 on left and 4 on right breast because I was in pain on that one.

I scheduled my follow up appointment with my PS last. He thought I looked great. He barely examined my breasts. Just a light squeeze mainly on my breast tissue, and said they aren’t that bad. I asked what Grade he thought they were and he said “2... maybe 2 ½”. I asked about Strattice. He said it’s used for padding/pocket repair, then changed the subject. I guess they shouldn’t discuss if they don’t have experience using it for CC. Understandable. I asked again about explanting and he said “I wouldn’t do anything. They look good, remember how they looked before?”

I didn’t have a melt down or anything, just smiled and asked, “So you wouldn’t do anything? But my right one aches.” He confirmed he wouldn’t do anything and didn’t acknowledge my pain comment. I’m somewhat a quite person, shy, so of course I’m not going to push the issue.

All 4 doctors agreed that I would be saggy if I explant. I’ve only had these for 6 months and I’m scared they may be right. I wasn’t saggy before and would be devastated to go through all this and end up smaller and saggy. I’m going to go for it. Remove capsule, replace with lower profile, under muscle, with Strattice. Wish me luck! I’ll probably start another review on the Revision side :-)

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August 6, 2015
I'm so sorry you are going through this! I would be unhappy too, with all the complications. I hope you get some relief with your next surgery. Are you going with a different surgeon?
August 6, 2015
Yes I scheduled it with a different surgeon yesterday.
August 7, 2015
Who was your Dr?! I'm scheduled in Houston on Sept 25th with Dr Vitenas, he's amazing, goes for the most natural look.
August 7, 2015
Coincidentally my revision is scheduled with Dr. Vitenas Aug 18th!
August 7, 2015
Yay! You won't regret it, two of my friends went with hi. And they have nothing but good things to say. Best of luck!
August 15, 2015
Omg, I know exactly what your going through, I have a very similar story. On September 5th 2014, I had a breast Aug with 500 cc textured implant above muscle. I'm 45 and still had a decent D size breast with a little droop. I wanted to look younger and had a stupid boyfriend at the time who liked big boobs. I had 2 option at the time, go above the muscle with a larger implant above the muscle or under the muscle with a breast lift. Between his nurse and my boyfriends advice, I decided to go above the muscle. This would save me $3,500 and scares and maybe it would make the baboon ( boyfriend ) happy. It ended up being one of the most painful and depressing years of my life. I had my surgery on a Tuesday and by Fridays, my breast were so swollen and shiny and the pain pills wasnt even touching the pain. Right then, I knew something was wrong. They had me come in that day, though my doctor was not there. His nurse when she seen as I was in tears tells me, we told you it was going to hurt and basic ly I was being a baby. I insisted something be done and had another dr in the office examine me and said get her some percocet right away and see my doc asap. He saw me and told me to continue to message and see him back In a week to have stiches removed. His nurse came in to remove my stitches, which I thought was stange, the dr didn't didn't examine me first, at that point all hell broke loose. When she snipped, I practice ly exploded, my Insistioins spilt open and black blood squrited all over the wall, sorry for being so gross and explicit, she screamed for the dr and he had a concerned look on his face. As he is squeezing the remainder of the blood, the nurse snipped the other breast and clear liquid also squirted quit heavily. The dr said he had never seen 2 very rare conditions on the same person. We waited a week by placing gauze under my breast with open wounds and I had to go back to work ( I'm a hairdresser, ouch) . Everytime I removed the gauze I would have bloody clearing flow and would scare the cap out of me. I went to my follow up by myself that day. When he examine me, both my implants were exposed. He then moved me into a different and gave me a local and while I was awake he removed my inplants, wrapped me up and sent me driving home alone. For about the next 4 months I was still in a lot of pain and had to still take something at night, not to mention my breast looked terrible, very deprssing, it took almost a year for them to heal enough for them to be fixed. I was finally ready to have them fixed, had to sell my car to do it, but at this point I had no choice. I went with the same dr because he still showed a lot of caring for me and wanted to make it right. The plan this time was a 400 hp behind muscle with a lift. He charged me $3000, the difference if I had a lift the first time, it still cost him out of his pocket, but was doing the right thing because of my unique situation. Your dr should be ashamed of himself, he is in the wrong business. Never mind, it will all be better soon. I had my lift with Aug on August 5th and so far so good, I like the natural size a lot better, still riding high. I get my stitches out next week, wish me luck there's no explosions. And good luck to you as well, hopefully we are a couple of happy girls after what we went through, take care

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August 18, 2015
Wow, what a nightmare! I think they see so many cases they just assume everyone is crying wolf. Good luck! With all we are going through, they better be perfect!
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August 16, 2015
Ah good luck huni wishing you all the best. Keep us all posted x
August 19, 2015
Thank you! Did it yesterday and i'm wrapped up for 1 whole week so won't get to see them next Tuesday.
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August 19, 2015
Did any doctor suggest lying on a hard surface for 10 mins, 3 times a day? Also my doctor also suggested a hyperbaric chamber. Both of these help to soften up the implants. I didn't end up needing the hyperbaric chamber (it would have been around $200 a session)Oxygen helps cells regenerate. I'm sorry you are not happy with the results. I know that I would not want to explanations either. Take care and keep in touch
August 19, 2015
Dr. didn't suggest laying on hard surface, but I read others had done it so I did lay on the floor, pressed on counter, massaged aggressively, every morning before getting up turned over and laid on my belly for a while. It hurt to lay on belly too by the way, they just poked me. They did soften up and ache less but it's just a lost cause. I also did laser treatment for 6 weeks after my right one was replaced. Who knows if really does anything but I was willing to try it all!
UPDATED FROM tam53
7 months post

Here is a video, and there are a few before/after photos in my Q&A from 5 months ago.

tam53
The last few months I could only guess that they were not supposed to feel like this. It’s been very confusing trying to decide if I could live with the pain and firmness. They have never felt like a part of me but instead like 2 balls sitting on my chest. It pulls really tight along the bottom when I raise my arms above my head as well.

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August 7, 2015
Although your boobs do look great, I am sorry they harden so much. I'm not well informed about above the muscle breast augmentation, is this a common con of this particular placement?
Regardless of being outspoken or shy, this is your body and u have to live with it, my advise would be to speak up! Tell him exactly how you feel and that u are not satisfied. Express how they don't move with you naturally hence it makes it difficult to have a normal life (like wearing a bikini top). I'm not trying to sound rude but luv, it's your body and I strongly believe everyone needs to speak up and not settle in situations like this. Take an outspoken friend with u so she/he can speak your mind when u remain quiet. Or at least seek some type of legal help where maybe a lawyer can write a letter to the Dr. explaining how u satisfied you are with your revision.
Unless u have tons of money and the post op was a breeze for you, I'd be raising hell.
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August 7, 2015
Best of luck to u luv, keep us posted
August 7, 2015
I did express all of it to him in May, so really expected the response I got last week. It honestly hurt more than anything to know he just didn't care. Obviously I need a new PS, which I found. I am pretty sure I would have gotten CC going under the muscle too. It's just the way my body seals off the foreign object. I hope this Strattice is the miracle it's made out to be!
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August 8, 2015
Oh great! I will say a prayer for you and wish u the best of luck with your new ps. It's a shame how some people can disregard other's future and emotions. I also like to work out and I'm trying to educate myself on BA above and below, pros and cons. I'd hate to have to stop working out. Your review was of much help to me, thank you. Stay blessed
August 18, 2015
Hi doll, Im going to be late for work but I had to reply to you. I work out as well. Your story is much like mine. Although I had my first under the muscle. I was VERY clear I didn't want the "fake "look. I gave my surgeon the choice on size. I knew some thing was not right after post op. I had a 410 cc way too large for my frame. I had a double bubble. The implant slipped out of the pocket. Lifting at the gym was weird. I had a revision from a well known dr. I interviewed tons. All said I should go over the muscle. I did. Again too large with a implant 375 cc. I should of saved 2000 and used the old ones the were not in very long. With almost the same size. Had a hematoma and C.C. one the right side. Had another surgery with 275cc and the same thing.C.C. on the right side. I did MASSIVE amounts of research. With all that mental, emotional, and time spent .I could of opened my own business or written a book. In stead of worrying about my [RS bleep]. I also asked about the Stratice. It comes with complications as well. Its either donor tissue of from pig. Your body can reject it. My doctor is very familiar with it. Did not advise using it. They all make make no this you see. I woke up one day and decided to get off the crazy train of face boobs and explanted a month ago. You should not sag.. I didn't. I chalked it up the the dumbest most expensive mistake… thats why I'm late for work to reply. Have any questions feel free to ask. I have already been through all of it . God Bless
August 19, 2015
I was just afraid to explant after removing the capsule twice, it seems like my breast tissue wouldn't be the same. I saw many photos of explants that looked great though. I've been going back and forth on it for quite a while and just figured I may as well try this first. I had it done yesterday so we'll see. If it happens again though I am definitely explanting. I feel pretty stupid myself. Should have left well enough alone. I do miss my old boobies tremendously. I also feel really stupid for letting him do the lower eyelid surgery. I didn't need it and now have scars where he never told me I would, extending from outside corners. Only about a centimeter or 2 but it's the first thing I see every time I look in a mirror... sorry, getting off subject!
August 19, 2015
did you have the strattice? How do you feel and did you sneak a peek?
August 19, 2015
Yes strattice and switched to under muscle. Very painful. I can see in the bandage that I do have a natural slope now, and bottom looks a little bumpy but I've read enough to know that is normal And will smooth out. My new PS was very detailed in explaining reclovery process so I know what to expect. I guesss I need to start a review on Revision side so as not to confuse the doctors if I decide to post names on review.
August 20, 2015
thats great…the strattice I was qouted by my dr..was pricey. 3000 each. not including the implant..ugh. Please keep me posted on the out come. I wish you well doll. Good luck
August 26, 2015
I wanted to correct my comment about bottom being bumpy when i took a peek. It was the tape making it appear so. Both breast are completely smooth.
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August 21, 2015
When did you develop the capsular contracture? How many weeks after surgery?
August 21, 2015
My right started riding higher at 6 weeks but I didn't realize what it was. At 7 weeks it was hard and wouldn't move in the pocket. My left got hard at 3 months. The replacement on right got hard again about 5 or 6 weeks after revision.
August 24, 2016
im sorry you are going thru this, yes your breast look un-natural. too hard and stiff. i am dealing with un-natural looks also but mine are my eyes. no lower lids, just pulled straight lower lids completely flat up against my cheeks and fat lumps everywhere. my doctor fluffs this off, saying he's proud of my end results... really ???
UPDATED FROM tam53
7 months post

Just thinking about all the times my doctor disregarded my questions with "Don't worry about that."

tam53
During recovery I think most of us have concerns that we're healing as expected and occasionally question something that just doesnt look right. Sometimes it's really nothing and that reassurance is comforting. Sometimes we know something isnt right though, and need an explanation.

There were several instances during my recovery with the eyelid surgery and BA that I just couldnt get an answer.

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August 26, 2015
I just wrote a very long review and only the beginning posted. I guess I'll write it again tomorrow :(
August 27, 2015
Hi. Thanks for sharing your journey. Have you done revision yet? I have been following/researching fat transfer to the breasts. It could be a great alternative to implants. I encourage you to check it out. Good luck
August 27, 2015
I did last week. So we'll see!
August 26, 2015
What PS you go to? I went to get consultations from three different PS in Houston. I just want to make sure not the same PS that you have reading you story it make me nervous. I hope anything work out for you soon
August 27, 2015
I've been trying to decide whether or not to post the doctor. I hate to give a bad review, but I can't honestly give a good review if I do. I certainly don't blame him for the capsular contracture, that's just a risk we all take. There is a lot more to my experience though. I'll write the rest of it and decide whether or not to post the doctor. I'll message you for now though.