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TCA CROSS Method for Acne Scars, at Home
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I am writing to review the TCA CROSS method for acne scars, which I performed on myself at home using 50% TCA initially then switching to 80% TCA that I purchased online. I should note that at this point my scars are very minor having previously had laser and also dermarolling at home but they did not start out small. It's only been through hard work and determination that they have become much smaller than they were. I became interested in TCA cross after reading some studies. The science is there behind these studies so I felt confident going in. I also watched some videos of dermatologists and plastic surgeons performing the cross method as well as scouring forums about TCA cross for people's opinions and experiences. I started out by using TCA 50% just to test my skin's reaction to it and make sure there were no adverse reactions. I used a toothpick dipped carefully in the TCA solution. Initially it stung a little but this was very minor pain. I was careful to stay within the center of each scar and not go outside of the edges. I had three small scars that were very close in proximity to each other, and I had read through some other user's experience that there was concern about scars bridging and become one bigger scar instead of 2 or 3 smaller scars. To avoid this, I crossed the middle scar only and left the other two alone. I then came back about three weeks later and crossed the other 2 scars only leaving the rest of my face alone. By doing this I was also able to note progress, comparing the depth of the scars that I had not crossed which was deeper than the other scar, which had filled in about 40 percent. Originally they were about the same depth as each other. I had 2 types of scars on my face- icepick scars, I only had these on my nose and one scar only on one cheek, and boxcar scars(small saucer like scars), which were the majority of my remaining scars. These have previously decreased very much in size due to laser and dermarolling. After applying the TCA my skin frosted just in the small area I had crossed. It didn't turn red or look irritated after the frosting subsided. Different skin types react differently though and if you intend to try this method I really advise doing a test area. I was concerned that my skin wasn't forming scabs, but about 4 days later I had tiny scabs throughout my face. (I only did one side of my face to see how it would react at this point.) Again the time frame will vary from person to person. After about 5 days or so my scabs had either shrunken or fallen off. I was very careful not to upset the scabs, I wanted them to stay on as long as possible. Whatever you do don't pick the scabs, it will make it much worse. Only one scab fell off prematurely. It did fill in evenly and the same as the others though despite falling off early. I should also note that my scars looked slightly worse when the scabs fell off; this is normal. It's now been 30 days or so since my initial cross, I went ahead and did my whole face using 80% TCA (other than the 2 tiny scars that are near each other, I only did the middle one again.) From the studies I read which I linked above, they did the crosses six times spaced 30 days apart. This was very easy to do, very inexpensive. No one in my area performs TCA cross or I would have considered letting a doctor do it for me, at least the first time. Since the studies reflect such sound results I really wanted to try it for myself. The results I am seeing so far are very good. The boxcar scars are filling in but they will take some time. The small scars that looked like dilated pores are completely gone after a single cross. The icepick scar on my nose is gone (I only did one scar on my nose to test.) I still have more of the same type of scar on my nose, which I crossed for the first time today. I didn't notice much change in the icepick scar on my cheek but its very small to begin with before crossing. I am optimistic about this. I plan to cross six times a month apart unless the scars get worse (which I hope they won't but if they do I will share the results.) I advise everyone who plans to try this to read the studies, watch a few youtube videos on how to perform cross, and do a test scar before doing your whole face.And be very careful handling the TCA, wear gloves. As always it's so important to do your research before doing anything to your face or body. There is no such thing as being too informed. I am offering up my own personal experience in the hopes that it can help others who have similar issues. Best of luck to everyone. :)
UPDATED FROM LaGirl89
1 month post
Here is what the frosting looks like
Here is what the frosting on my crossed scars look like. Also I forgot to mention that you can neutralize the frosting with a paste made from baking soda and water. It's policy not to link third parties on realself so if you'd like to do your own research you can just type Tca cross study or Tca cross journal into a search engine and the results come up. :)
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November 5, 2015
How long did you leave the 80% on for? I tried it on my nose & cheeks but they never made a scab, maybe because once I saw it start to frost I took it off. Did you put Neosporin on or Vaseline to keep them moist or nothing at all? Thanks

November 6, 2015
HI there! I did not neutralize my tca frosting at all, I just left it on and it self neutralized on its own. Different people do it differently, but for me this way works the best. When I first got the 50% Tca I neutralized it with baking soda and water and it did not scab when I did it that way which lead me to just leaving it on. If you are apprehensive about leaving it on why don't you try doing a single scar that way to test it out? Also, for me I noticed that my nose is quite oily just due to genetics. I have to wash my face then cleanse my nose with alcohol to get all of the oils off or else it won't penetrate. The natural oils act like a barrier to the TCA. Hope that helps :)


November 6, 2015
Oh and I do not put neosporin or Vaseline on my scabs either. The only thing I do is my usual routine of washing my face and moisturizing in the morning, and at night I wash it again and apply retin a to everywhere except my eyes. Around my eyes I use a good moisturizer at night. I had previously tried retin a around one of my eyes and it actually made fine lines around the one eye. So now I have fine lines to this day under one eye only. Lol
November 6, 2015
I posted below, also the red marks from my tca cross are still there after 25 days..and now I have to wear makeup. they look just like the teenage red marks after acne, a scar.. I didn't have to wear makeup before and had NO red marks.. no scabs are left.im upset that I still have red marks and have to use makeup after 3 weeks. it has not returned to skin color yet. I am a very pale person. so its not pigmentation,its red/pink...I have copper peptides and every thing every site suggested. theyre just still there. I can admit now they faded a bit.. from bright red to redpink... so that is good news.. but I want my skin all one color again.. my skin color! my scars are so annoying I almost cannot regret anything I try to do even when results seem adverse. im just so tired of them that I NEED TO FEEL proactive at all times. but.... I certainly look worse in downtime....... :( NOT better. im upset . if patience pays off im fine,even 6 months..of off and on downtime.. but more weeks and weeks of red marks oh nooooooooo. im so confused honestly... what if putting ca cross on same spots as red marks makes them worse..... does it have to return to normal skin color before I do another???? its been 3 weeks, no sign of them disappearing yet.. they look like something thatd take months.

February 15, 2016
Thanks for sharing, where can I find this on line ?

UPDATED FROM LaGirl89
1 month post
Here is what the scabbing looks like
Here is a photo of what my scabbing looks like. I kinda feel like a teenager with this on my face. It's not that bad though, it's already starting to go away. I do not cover my scars with makeup because I find that can make my scabs come off prematurely.
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November 6, 2015
I need to do this but I hate the downtime. its psychologically traumatizing. I did the home method and I did it wrong. so I did what you mentioned avoiding above and I connected 3 or more scars together making a larger scar.more like a ditch! a trench in my face. like a deep wrinkle. :( im so upset. so ill have to do it again. but im scared of cross now so I think ill do an even layer of the whole area of 50%..i did 100% cross. but not precisely. I didn't even have a toothpick. I had a q tip and I cut it and used the shaft (I didn't use cotton part) I have a long inch long scar now.. that I never had in my life. I was hoping its a look worse before better thing because collagen remodeling I read takes months! 9 weeks to 6 months total time... 6 months with THREE total cross procedures.... all over peels I read can be done every 2 weeks I think that is way too often considering the skin is still healing in two weeks. I am new to this. but I did ruin my skin by making new BAD BIGGER scars.. at the same time the OTHER areas look better,thats why I have hope. ill give it the full 6 month/3 time suggestion that I read everywhere...going into winter now.. it is November so if by June/July next year I do not see better skin I will never do this again...and stick with my lifetime of glycolic/lactic/retin a etc.. (but my scars were bad never did any of those help at all) I just purchased derma roller at the same time as the tca so I haven't used it enough to see if it will help nor do I know how to use it in conjunction with tca peels! that's just too much!???? my left cheek is covered in pitted scars it looks like cottage cheese. I need to fix it. I am 41 so its saggy but wasn't before. I did something wrong.
November 7, 2015
Do not cover an entire area of skin with 50% TCA! That is crazy. That is a very strong percentage and can potentially scar you even worse. Clearly you've already had complications, please don't make it worse. I urge you to take a step back, pump the brakes, and research this before you just start applying acid randomly.

November 7, 2015
Try not to get too down. Is it possible that you could find someone to do excision on the bridged scar? All we can do is learn from our mistakes, getting depressed won't help. Just take the time to do your research and make sure you have the right supplies. A q tip is too big, the toothpick is great because it allows for precision. I don't think it's a good idea to put 50% on your whole face, it's likely better to cross your scars but just don't repeat your previous mistakes. If you want to wait 9 weeks in between crossing it will be fine. The reason I am doing it every 30 days is because that was what they did in the study with great results. Waiting longer won't hurt so if you feel more comfortable doing it that way it's fine. Just listen to your body. I would not combine derma rolling with Tca cross because Tca on its own will do the job and it might be overkill otherwise. You wouldn't want to over-traumatize your skin. The roller will certainly come in handy later once you have seen your final results from Tca cross to maintain those results. I understand about the downtime- it can be frustrating. Having tiny scabs all over my face isn't my finest look either lol but to me it's worth it for the results. So my advice to you is just to slow down, take your time to know what you are doing so you don't make it worse. You will be ok. :) best of luck to you going forward
November 7, 2015
thank you soooo much!!! for replying, its funny with tca cross you can look like a monster one day and have a good skin day the next lol, today is a good skin day, although it may mean "relatively" good and I hate the back and forth.. tmrw could be bad.... one thing I am thinking is that if the WHOLE POINT of tca cross and "collagen rebuilding" then why should I think the collagen would be rebuilt in one day! it takes months.. so instead of thinking my cars are worse.. ill just try to make myself realize that an acid on an INDENT is common sense that itll be deeper... but collagen will come to that spot as it heals and even the red spots mean healing is in order for those areas...I notice a HUGE correlation between eating nuts,berries, and kale.. and my skin,, those three things right there make a difference every day..if I don't eat them... I can look bad quick.. please avoid sugar while remodeling!!! my husband brought home a ton of sweets because he gets them free at his job , I never buy them.. I found myself eating them everyday for a week and I looked like crap! soon as I stopped I literally started looking MUCH better. your post is the LATEST on this procedure plus I liked everything you had to say.. ive been following real self but never posted before, I am going to keep in touch and watch your progress. thanks again so much!!! I have hopes that next June July..my six month mark I will see improvement... and whats 6 months, a year even... for progress..when otherwise we will look in mirror a year from now anyway without progress.... that's what I was telling myself..because years takes patience yet... they go by anyway lol... at 41 im starting to realize this.... avoid sun.. it ruined my skin and is why I ordered tca in the first place.. it broke down the collagen... I was FINE until this past summer.. and my job was all outdoors.... .. I wasn't good with sunscreen ..ill never do that again...ive had these scars since about age 18..SAME ones.. and here at 41 they all just suddenly caved in!!! the SUN did it :(
November 7, 2015
oh im also doing the camellia oil.. they said 1-TWO YEARS until indents fill in.. I got time lol. I hope! looks great under makeup..not oily... so.. I use retin a at night.. or whatever I grab.. in my myriad of products...

November 7, 2015
It's good that you realize what's triggering your skin problems. I love sweets so much too, I really need to stop but they are so good lol. I try to eat a lot of orange juice, tangerines, oranges, anything with a lot of vitamin c. Vitamin A, E, and D are also great for the skin. I never go out in the sun, mine is purely genetic. They say that if you have oily skin you will get less wrinkles though, hopefully that's true. My skin is so oily I have to wash my hair everyday and my face twice a day at least. I have hated the sun for awhile now, it makes my eyes hurt. I hardly go out in daylight if I can avoid it. I tried a salycic acid peel recently and it softened my skin a bit and improved the texture. It cleared up a breakout under my chin so that was nice. I did that one at home too. I always research a great deal before I do anything at home. I try to do things that are low cost and low risk. I am only able to do anything major like a treatment by my doctor once a year or so because my husband will give it to me for my birthday.

November 15, 2018
Plz try rosehip oil mixed with a carrier oil. I had great success with it. You have nothing to lose. It's cheap. Mix with tamanu or castor oil if you get acne.
November 15, 2018
thank you! I did try some rose hip oil and my skin looked good. I guess ill buy more...still indent now Nov 2018/scar happened from tca mishap Oct 2015 no more redness..all red gone looong time ago...just still have indent from tca. I suppose its filled in a little.filled in much more from camellia but why after I stopped camellia it indented/sunk in again?? I do not like temporary results!!! maybe skin stretching from aging as well as my issue with yearly weight gain and loss is the culprit here.

November 7, 2015
Do have any before and after photos to show the improvement? Thanks for the well written review:)

November 7, 2015
Yes this is true. So far I only have before photos but I promise to update and add after pics :)
January 16, 2016
Can you hide it with make up or is it not recommended?

March 24, 2016
If you absolutely have to, but try not to. I understand if you have to go to work or something like that. I prefer not to if possible because it can make your scabs come off early.
November 15, 2018
Makeup also highlights the peeling skin. You can use vegetable oils too such as rosehip, avocado, evening primrose, etc.
November 15, 2018
What is beneficial with the scabs staying on longer? What does this do for better results?
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How do u do my box car scars though since they are larger