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Laser Tattoo Removal - Small Black Ink Tattoo on Ankle - Harrison, NY

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I started the removal process Jan. 29th and had my...

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I started the removal process Jan. 29th and had my third treatment a week ago. So far I'm not too impressed. The photos are right before the first session, and right now (I know it looks a little slimy, I'm still slathering on the aquaphor twice a day).

The first two sessions were relatively painless (he iced the area beforehand, no topical creams or anything like that), then hurt a bit later in the day. No blistering at all. Just redness and swelling. I also didn't see any fading. When I went in for the third treatment, I said that I didn't think it was working, and my doctor assured me that it was. He used a different laser for the third treatment. It was more painful and actually bled during the treatment. It bled for about a day and a half, blistered a little bit, and is scabbed over now. At first I thought it was working this time, now I'm not too sure.

It looks to me like the ink has broken up a little bit, and there is one tiny spot that is almost completely gone, but otherwise it's barely faded at all. At this point I'm not positive if I want to continue. Initially I was told that it should be 50% gone following the third treatment, and that I should expect 8-10 treatments total, but more than likely not more than 8. It does not look 50% gone. I'm also considering having maybe one more treatment (at this place or possibly different one) and then waiting until the fall as I don't really want to deal with the healing process over the summer.

A few questions to those who have had more experience with this:
- My doctor ices the area for a few minutes before using the laser. I have read a few reviews on here, and I have seen people mentioned using injections and topical creams, but not once have I seen someone say their doctor used ice to numb the area. Is it possible that this is decreasing the effectiveness of the laser?
- Is it possible that the procedure is working even if I can't see any difference? It looks like most people have had at least some fading after one session.
- I know the extremities take longer to treat. I don't think I have great circulation (my hands and feet are almost always cold). Could this be an issue? I asked my doctor and he couldn't give me a straight answer. If that is the case, would it help if I exercised more?
- Given the results that I have seen, would it make sense at this point to keep at it, or look for another doctor?

I will try to keep this updated. Thanks in advance.

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April 16, 2014
Sorry to hear you aren't happy with the results so far. I think I would also expect more fading after three sessions. I would try a different place, like you mentioned. There are so many factors that effect what kind of result you get and maybe this laser/this person isn't doing what's right for you. I wanted to specifically respond to what you wrote about circulation/exercise. I've read online that smoking can have a massively negative effect on laser tattoo removal treatments (up to 70% less effective). This makes sense, the laser is breaking up the ink but it is up to the body to take it away from the tattoo site and get rid of it. It does this using the lymphatic system. If you are harming your body with all the rubbish in cigarettes then this mechanism is going to be negatively affected. Therefore it seems logical that the reverse would be true, staying as healthy as possible could have a positive effect. I personally am going to be doing everything I can to maximise this. It just makes sense that strengthening your immune system and supporting good lymphatic drainage would help.....e.g. eating well, exercising, getting lots of sleep, drinking water, massaging the area or doing dry body brushing (not directly on the tattoo). And if not, then my body will thank me for it anyway!!! Good luck with your removal journey :)
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April 16, 2014
You have some wonderful questions. One thing about laser tattoo removal is the uncertainty and that sucks big time. Everyone's bodies are different, the ink is different (it's not regulated, and each company is different), artists' tattoo expertise are different. There are so many variables, it's confusing. Another consultation with another doctor may be something to consider. As for the icing, I've seen it at tattoff locations. As for the lidocaine injections, the debate continues with that also. Some places say it's good, some places say it swells up the skin and the laser is not as effective. And then there's the location of your ink. One thing you might try is elevating your ankle following the removal process. I do that as my removal is on my extremity also. And finally, my clinician suggested lymphatic massage, which is wonderful. If you have a massage school near you, you may be able to get some wonderful discounts. In the meantime, follow the aftercare procedures suggested by your professional, ie) keeping hydrated, covered, and take care of your health. The whole process does take time, effort and money. And this sucks, but it's worth it in the end. Good luck, keep us posted, we're all here for you. aloha...k
April 19, 2014
Thanks for responding. I really have no interest in getting any kind of injection to numb the pain. I hate needles, and the burning from the laser is not nearly bad enough for me to prefer getting a shot. I just mentioned it because I've seen people mention using that as a numbing agent, but not ice, so I was wondering if there was a reason for it. I will look into lymphatic massage, thank you.
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April 17, 2014
Welcome to the community! What type of lasers were used for your treatment? Do you know what level you they were set at? Icing would have no negative impact in my opinion, I use it for pain management as well, helps alot. I have heard the numbing cream can reduce the effectiveness of the laser however I am not certain if that is 100% true and I continue to use it. 

As for question about extremities and poor circulation - I am not an expert but understand that cold hands and feet are common but if persistent and accompanied by other symptoms such as a blue or white tinge of color of your skin it could be something to follow up on with your Doctor for further diagnosis to ensure there are no issues. You could also Ask a Doctor on our sight as well. 

Exercise will be very beneficial and will aid in circulation - when you exercise the blood vessels dilate allowing for more blood flow in your body - when we are not exercising our vessels are like a garden hose, when we work out they are like a fire hose :)  Also eating healthy and staying hydrated are key in tattoo removal. Kahelelani mentions lymphatic massages which are strongly recommended during this treatment. 

Good luck and keep us posted!
April 19, 2014
It's a Q-switched Nd:YAG laser. Not sure what brand or what level it was set it. I haven't done much exercising since last summer...I've been planning to get back into it but have been slacking. The weather is still pretty dismal here which kills my motivation to get out for a run. I try to eat healthy and stay hydrated most of the time. Thanks for responding!
UPDATED FROM panacabaab
3 months post

Starting to fade?

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Thanks for your input! It's been about a week and a half since session 3. It actually looks like it's fading now. I'm not sure how much of that is the ink actually fading and how much of it is just dry, dead skin covering the ink and making it look lighter. I think you can kind of see in the photos what I mean. I picked it at a bit last week, otherwise I think it would have been healed by now. (By the way, the creases in my leg are from sitting on my foot a few minutes ago.)

If it's actually starting to work, how much fading should I expect to see over the course of the next month or so? Will it be consistent and gradual over that period or does it generally fade a lot in the first week or so of healing and then slow down?

If I'm happy with the result of this session after 6 weeks, I will probably go back in for a fourth one, then wait until after the summer to do a fifth.

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April 19, 2014
Wow there's definitely a difference in the new photos, awesome news :)
April 19, 2014
I hope so! : )
UPDATED FROM panacabaab
3 months post

Almost healed

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Okay, 3rd session was two weeks ago today. The only spots that are still raised up are the places where I picked at the scab. I'm not going to post another photo until it's completely healed. I think some of the "fading" I saw was actually dry dead skin covering the black and making it look lighter. It looks less faded than I thought it did, but I'm not certain. Still not totally impressed but it's definitely lighter than it was before, if only a tad.

There is a weird brown/copper looking discoloration to the right of the tattoo. At first I thought it was just redness from the treatment but the skin in that spot is healed and the color is still there. I'm not too concerned but I want to know what's causing it. Maybe a tan from the laser?

I think if I choose to continue with the treatments, I'm going to find a different doctor. I'm just not all that comfortable that my guy knows what he's doing. I want to look into the Picosure laser. Does anyone know if it is good for black ink? I was looking through the Q&A on here, and all of the doctors seem to give conflicting answers.

Will post another photo in a few days. Thanks for the support :)

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April 21, 2014
Thanks for the update, here is a forum that speaks to the brown ink you are seeing:

http://www.realself.com/forum/experienced-black-ink-turning-light-brown-laser-tattoo-removal

I also experienced the black turn to brown, then it faded. If you have any other symptoms or concerns please follow up with your Doctor. 


April 21, 2014
Thanks. The thing is it's not exactly where the tattoo is, it's off to the right. It's red in the pictures. Maybe it is ink, but if that's the case, it's migrating quite a bit.
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April 26, 2014
I had my first treatment done on April 9, 2014. I've got a tribal band on my ankle about a inch wide. The doctor that I'm seeing uses a Medlite laser. I could see a difference in mine the first day. Where I had once had smooth lines looks broken up. It looks distorted for lack of a better word. As it has healed I've seen places in the black ink that looks like it's polka dotted where it was once all black. They came in and completely injected 2% Lidocaine all the way around my ankle. So felt nothing of the laser but only the injections. My doctor said the black ink was the easiest to remove because of how the black absorbed the light from the laser. I started looking at ways to improve the removal of the ink and read about boosting your immune system. So I've started taking immune boosting vitamins and will continue to see if that helps/