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Help Me Going Through This Horrible Process!!! - Germany

UPDATED FROM stellina1991

First laser session

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stellina1991
I finally had my first treatment two days ago on the inside of the arm. Because of the testspot which had been done before, I was afraid of black ink turning brown. Unfortunately it seems that this has happened this time with the rest of the tattoo.....don't know what to think.... Is it a normal part of the progress..?

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M
June 21, 2015
Did you ask them about it? Did that test spot fade at all yet?
S
June 21, 2015
I will call them tomorrow :-/ no it didn't...
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M
June 22, 2015
Interesting. Ok, let us know what happens. I'm hoping for the best for you.
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P
June 21, 2015
Same is happening with me. I was reassured this is normal and will go away with further sessions! Good luck x
S
June 21, 2015
Thank you :)! I hope you're right. We have to wait and see what will happen :-)
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EG
June 21, 2015

Hey there, check out this review for information on black turning brown: A Costly Mistake - Mentally, Physically & Financially

Also, my black also turned brown, and it just faded away over time - so I see it as a normal reaction, and my doctor wasn't concered - however every situation is different as it depends on what ink was used and what it was mixed with. 

A
August 17, 2015
do a picosure! In Geramny there are some clinics that have pico and its fading is great! Please check it out after 3 treatments one guy posted here pictures of so much fading after 3 treatments...really great laser when the technician can operate the machine....
UPDATED FROM stellina1991

Test spot with revlite

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stellina1991
4 weeks ago I got two test spots with a revlite: 1 was done on pink (which became grey) and the second one on black. I am very concerned because the black ink turned into a brown shadow. Is that normal? I heard that if it turns brown it cannot be removed by further Treatments???

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M
May 28, 2015
I've done research on this and have actually asked my laser specialist about it since my black shading is also turning brown. My specialist and most everything I have read tells me that it's normal degradation of ink. Apparently with a couple more treatments that brown will go away as well. No worries. :-)
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P
May 28, 2015
Thank you for this - my skin is going brown too!
S
May 28, 2015
Do you think that the ink containing metal could also be responsible for the brown?
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M
May 29, 2015
From what I read there is a slight possibility that your tattoo ink could contain a lot of metals. (Especially in permanent eyeliner/makeup). In this case it is possible that the laser will make it turn brown, and the brown will get darker. But I'd have to say this is probably pretty rare. Most likely if you are seeing some browning its ink degrading. The area on mine that turned the most brown is actually fading the fastest.
S
May 30, 2015
Unfortunately I've already asked the tattooist about the ink he uses and he said it contains metals like chrome, zinc, nickel... So if it contains metals it will
S
May 30, 2015
Turn Brown??? Or do you think Every ink contains metals?
R
May 31, 2015
check inbox! (just in case you disabled mail notifications) :-)
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M
May 31, 2015
Ok so I looked into it a little more since I'm also curious. Apparently most inks contain metals, but apparently that's not 100% what causes the problem. Most professionals are saying that problem mostly and almost exclusively occurs with cosmetic inks (makeup). I guess it has happened in tattoos but it's apparently so rare that I'd bet money you are just fine. Just bring up your concerns at your next treatment. Like I said, the part of my tattoo that faded the fastest is the part that turned brown.
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M
May 31, 2015
I think permanent makeup inks are not as good as tattoo inks in a lot of cases...
S
June 1, 2015
I was so nervous Ehe whole weekend and called several Laser experts in order to ask them about black ink turning brown. Most of them told me they have never seen this happen which is very confusing because I've seen it several times on this website.
S
June 1, 2015
*the
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June 12, 2015
Do you still have some brown areas? Are some of them removed? I'm still not sure if it really is just ink breaking down because I've seen a number of reviews where black ink just becomes lighter with each session. Unfortunately I haven't seen someone who managed this "brownish problem" so far :-/
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M
June 12, 2015
Hi there, sorry I haven't responded. So I'm not sure when exactly your ink turned brown. Was it pretty immediate? If so that 'might' be cause for concern, not that I want to worry you... With my tattoo the shaded parts are fading the fastest. And those are the parts that are brownish. As far as I can tell, they are still fading pretty fast. The brown is getting lighter and lighter. I can post a picture of those areas on my review if you want. And when I brought it up to my laser specialist, he knew exactly what I was talking about. So I am a little shocked that none of the people you talked to had seen that before...... Unless it really doesn't happen to everyone, or if your case is different. Did it happen almost immediately?
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M
June 12, 2015
Oh, and I think it took maybe a month for the shaded areas to start turning brownish after my first session. So far the thick lines and smaller lines are still black... but I am thinking with fading they may also turn brown...
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June 13, 2015
I am not quite sure but I think it turned brown after two or three days but it definitely became lighter than the black ink before
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M
June 15, 2015
To be honest I really don't think you have anything to worry about at this time. Nothing really stands out as a red flag. However I am still shocked that the people you contacted said they have never seen that before... Maybe you and I and whoever else this happens to have a similar type of ink that fades to a brownish color before disappearing.
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Surgical excision possible?

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stellina1991
As I am still very depressed about this situation I am thinking of a surgical excision of my tattoo. I'd rather have a scar on my arm than the tattoo. I don't think that laser treatments bring the result i'd like to have. And I definitely do not have enough strength to go through this whole process.
Do you think that excision would be a way to solve this problem?

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W
April 19, 2015
Your tattoo is in the same place and roughly the same size as mine - I have often thought about the surgical route but with a tattoo our size our options are limited. As far as I'm aware if excision is possible then it would have to happen in stages, probably three or four maybe over a year or so. Or, it could involve a skin graft, but that would probably just awful. I'd be interested to hear if you get any opinions about excision. Failing that, laser is your best bet.
S
April 19, 2015
Do you think it's possible without a skin graft? Because I don't think so :-( today I sent an Email to a doctor asking if surgical excision is possible. I don't think there is enough skin to close the scar. Did you have any treatments on your tattoo so far?
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W
April 19, 2015
If it is possible then it would have to be done in stages - remove part then close it, then wait a few months then remove another part. I guess that would be the only way. Let us know if you get a response from them. I've had 8 laser treatments so far and probably need at least two or three more.
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M
April 20, 2015
I think you should have a consultation with a surgeon who does tattoo excision. Ask them all your questions. My honest thoughts are that excision may cause more skin damage than lasering, since your tattoo is rather large. But then again, I am not a surgeon. Definitely ask a professional. - - When it comes to lasers, if it makes you feel any better, a lot of hypopigmentation on tan people will fade. I read (and heard) that lasers will zap your skin pigment and basically take out your tan. But overtime with natural sun exposure your skin can gain those pigments back.
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M
April 20, 2015
After looking at your tattoo closer it looks really light in some parts and the red colors are very, very light. I feel like lasers would fade your tattoo significantly...
S
April 28, 2015
I decided to do a mixture: Laser Treatments and parts of it will be excised
J
April 25, 2015
Look into picosure. Your tattoo is light. It should wipe that tattoo out! Take alook at my process