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I am on my fourth day of recovery after my Fraxel...

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California Crookedteeth
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I am on my fourth day of recovery after my Fraxel Re:pair procedure. My recovery has been uneventful, so far, but the procedure was unimaginably painful. It was done in a surgery center, under "twilight" sedation -- and with nerve blocking injections in my face -- but I felt everything. The passes of the laser were like being peeled with a hot knife. This procedure should be done under full anesthesia!

If you are considering having more than one thing done, it's possible to pair Fraxel with other work, such as liposuction, that is done while you are fully out. The fact that some doctors do Fraxel Re:pair in-office, with just a local injection and oral pain killers, is shocking. I have a very high tolerance for pain, and I was prepared to have this procedure hurt. Nothing could have prepared me for what it actually felt like. My body convulsed with each pass.

But on to the recovery.

After my treatment, my face looked frightening and raw, like it was covered in "road rash", as blood oozed from the laser perforations. It felt hot initially, but the nurses placed a cool vinegar compress on it, and my skin cooled. When I got home, I slept for an hour, then got up to do my first vinegar-water compress. The blood washed away, and I could see the dots of the laser's tracks. As the seepage of blood and serum continued, it looked as if I were sweating blood. I quickly applied a thick layer of Aquaphor, lay down on a towel-covered pillow, and waited for my next vinegar compress. I continued with compresses every two to two-and-a-half hours for 48 hours (setting an alarm at night). I had no pain, or stinging from the vinegar, and almost no inflammation. I slept with my head elevated, and I took a pain pill at night mostly so that I would remain still as I slept.

I was scrupulous about cleanliness when doing my compresses. I sterilized the bowl, in which I soaked my gauze, with Pinesol every time I used it. I washed my hands before touching my face for any reason, or used a tissue to press lightly on any place that tickled. I changed and washed my p.j.s and robe twice daily (seepage around my face, and sticky Aquaphor). I changed the towel on my pillow. I used a straw to drink.

On the second day, my skin was seeping only serum, not blood. There was no crusting, due to the regular compresses. My face looked red, but not overly raw. It felt deeply bruised in places. My eyelids were visibly bruised and purple. When I touched my forehead, where the skin is stretched taut, the skin felt thin and fragile, as if it might break. I made sure to keep away from the light in my bright house, and I kept up the soaks and thick slathering of Aquaphor (which by this time was in my hair, and all over my house).

On the third day, my skin was showing signs of wanting to crust. I upped the soaking times for the compresses, and applied Aquaphor as if I were frosting a cake. Some small pimples had erupted, and my skin had taken on a much redder, almost purple color. I was afraid of infection and an acne breakout, so I phoned my doctor's office and got the go-ahead to start using cleanser on my skin on day four.

Today is day four, and I was finally able to wash my hair and my face with mild cleansers (Aquaphor cleanser for my face), and switch to a mild moisturizer instead of the Aquaphor. My skin has formed a rough, almost sandpapery layer of what I assume is dead skin. In some areas it shows signs of wanting to slough off. When I applied a heavy layer of moisturizer followed by a titanium dioxide sunblock (the chemical sunblocks will sting and irritate your skin after Fraxel, so physical sunblocks are preferred), My deeply red skin turned purple, with a metallic sheen. So I strongly disagree with my doctor, who said that I would be able to leave the house on day four. I am still housebound and looking freaky.

Overall, I like the firming up I see on my skin (which I am told is partially due to temporary inflammation, as long-term improvement happens over months). I am very worried about how red my face is, and that some areas of my face seem to have diminished feeling, topically. However, that seeming numbness might be due to the layer of dead skin that hasn't peeled yet. I like that my acne scars seem to have been zapped off. It's too early for me to have a a final opinion on this procedure. But I cannot stress enough to anyone considering this: Fraxel Re:pair hurts. If I'd know what the pain level was, I never would have agreed to do this under partial sedation.

I will update this post as my face changes over the next weeks.

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December 8, 2008
I had my fraxel repair three weeks ago. My face is still very red , with some places more so than others giving my face a patchy look. Makeup does not go on smoothly so it is very hard to cover the reddness. My skin has areas where it is very bumpy. Unfortunately, I got a bacterial infection on the 4th day of my procedure. It was resistant to the antibiotic, Keflex, the Dr. had me on. I was given Cipro which cleared the infection,but the infection had spread to several areas on my face and those areas are still very scaly and also difficult to cover with makeup... powder or liquid mineral makeup! Even without the complication I encountered, I can not see how anyone can say the "downtime" from this procedure is only 7 days. The positive side of this ordeal is what appears to be the tightening around my eye area. That area healed right away and looks good. Hopefully, I will be able to say the same thing about the rest of my face in another couple of weeks! I agree with California crookedteeth, the pain from this procedure is unbelievable even with nerve blocks and valium.
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December 10, 2008
Thank you so much for reporting your experience! I just had Pixel Perfect CO2 fractional laser which they told me is similar to Fraxel Repair. It was painful as I just had the topical lidocaine cream applied for 1 hr before the procedure. But I was very determined to drive home myself (so couldn't take drugs) and got through the procedure OK. Post procedure I was covered with 1000s of "dots" from the laser which eventually crusted and most have now sloughed off. I had no blood/serum weeping as described above. But now my skin underneath is bright red!! They told me 3-5 days post procedure and I'd be OK. NOT!! I thought it was going to look normal after my skin peeled. I'm 5 days post, and am canceling appointments, social events right and left. I'm so glad others are posting their experience or I'd be freaking out. Sounds like this is just part of the process - wonder how long it lasts?
April 20, 2009
Cyn What is the update on your bumps from the infection. My mother just had this done - contracted a staph infection and we need to understand if there is going to be long term effects. Would love an update.
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December 8, 2008
once again this is an example of the understated downtime and recovery. as well as the side effects. file a report with reliant (now thermage) so they are forced to change their literature.
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December 9, 2008
Thank you for the excellent play by play regarding your recent Fraxel Repair. Sorry to hear about the pain you experienced. Why didn't you demand more pain meds. This is inexcusable. Well, keep us posted on your healing process. I would love to see pics if you have any. I really seem to think it takes a good month to look halfway decent and perhaps three to see results. I wish you all the best and be patient .I think the final outcome may be worth it. I'm, next!! Oh! can you email me your physicia's name as it doesnt say in your post. Thanks, Chardy
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December 9, 2008
Chardy, my doctor said he asked me during the procedure whether I wanted to stop and get more meds, but in fact he didn't ask. He just kept going. At one point I did interrupt him to tell him to stop pushing so hard on my eyeball (which he was doing while using the laser near my eye). One of the drugs you get in "twilight sedation" is supposed to make the patient forget the entire procedure, including the pain. I remember the whole thing, though. So I think that the drug mix was off. May the anesthetist have Fraxel! This is day seven for me, and the skin on my lower face is much smoother. My forehead is still looking like a wall from which you've partially stripped wallpaper -- patchy and vaguely striped. I've had some pigment come up in stripes on my left cheek. I think this must have been from driving to the doctor's office yesterday (sun through the driver's side window), even though I was plastered with sunscreen at the time. I'm sure this pigment will fade over time, but I'm not going to be driving mid-day for a while. There is one thing that is really bugging me. In between my eyes I have a patch of dark red dots about the size of a nickel. They are obviously the holes left by the laser, and they came up after I had peeled. I have a similar dark spot in the indent of my chin. Areas of thin skin? I am anxious for them to fade. No improvement in the feeling in my temples yet. My doctor suggested that this numbness might help my migraines (!). Skin care has been washing in the shower with Aquaphor cleanser, short vinegar water soaks three times a day, Cetaphil cream during the day and Aquaphor ointment at night. I think that the vinegar soaks are no longer part of my required regimen, but they feel good and they make sense to me. My skin still feels very vulnerable. The vinegar water feels deeply cleansing and soothing. My husband brought home a chocolate cake from a good bakery and made reservations for us to visit a resort in a month. That's an entirely different type of medicine, but a good one.
December 9, 2008
Hi California "CT"... You sounded like you were very careful about evading an infection. I also changed Pillowcases, washed hands etc etc. I thought I did everything right, but obviously I did NOT! The bacterial infection certainly complicated my recovery. Thanks for the hint on makeup help. But, any type of powder just "CAKES" and looks terrible. My face feels so tight and sort of "itchy" after a couple of hours after I apply any type of cover up on the face..[forget trying to cover the neck]. I am just trying to be patient and realizing that "time" will heal. I am sure the type of skin one has makes a difference in the recovery time. I do have 'thin' skin' which contributes to the prolonged reddness of my face and neck. I also had some of those patches of dark areas you describe. As I said I am over three weeks out and they are fading... Hang in there! I also had some numbness in my face area, but that has subsided three plus weeks out. I did start to add VIT. C to my recovery creams and that really seemed to help in my skin recovery. . I use COSMEDIX vit c in a powder form that can be added to any product. Very happy with that product.

A note on why I did not provide the name of my...

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A note on why I did not provide the name of my doctor: I have purposely left off the name of my doctor so that I can be completely honest about the details of my Fraxel experience-- good and bad. I have encountered some reviews on this site that appear to be blatant promotions for medical practices. I do not agree with the practice of listing the name of the doctor for that reason: it invites such disguised advertising. For the record, the doctor who did my Fraxel is a well-respected, Board-certified plastic surgeon. The price I was charged is the going rate for my area.

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All previous updates on recovery are in the posts...

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All previous updates on recovery are in the posts below. Two weeks after the procedure, my skin is almost normal, and I am back to my regular life. Since some of the immediate improvements from Fraxel:Repair do regress before your collagen replacement takes over, I am still undecided as to the usefulness of this procedure. My choice of the "it's not worth it" button is based entirely upon the level of pain I experienced. No beauty treatment is worth that much pain to me. Done under full sedation, I would not consider this such an onerous procedure. My recovery process was relatively easy, though I did have a few side effects (including some potentially permanent facial numbness). Had I been fully sedated, would I have considered Fraxel "worth it"? My answer to that depends on whether I regain full feeling in my face. If I do, I'd say "yes". If I don't, then I would have to say "no way". Right now, I'm sticking with the "no". I would urge anyone considering Fraxel Re:Pair to do a lot of reading about it first, and consider all the risks -- large and small -- before going ahead with it. Try to find someone who has had it done, with whom you can talk in person. Then ask yourself whether it's worth it for you. This is a cosmetic procedure. It's optional. Always keep that in mind.

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December 17, 2008
I've decided to pull my socks up and get on with my normal life, albeit one that involves liberal use of sunscreen and moisturizer. At two weeks plus one day post-Fraxel, I am seriously feeling my lack of exercise, so I am headed off to the gym. I will hold off on swimming for now, out of concern for the pressure of my goggles on tender skin, but for everything else...Thunderbirds are go. I was able to wear my hair down around my face yesterday for the first time, as my skin hypersensitivity has abated. It's silly, but it made a big difference in how I felt about skin. My hair covers some of the problem areas around the edge of my face. I received an e-mail from a man castigating me for "obviously" choosing the "wrong doctor" for my procedure. He went on to detail how much better and easier his procedures were -- *multiple*, sequential procedures, which were "obviously" the much less invasive Fraxel Restore, not Re:pair! So you need to be careful when reading reviews on this site. Make certain that you are reading about the correct treatment. I would question anyone who claims they felt nothing during Fraxel Re:pair, unless they were knocked out. And beware: there are promotions posing as reviews out there. I have a final check with my doctor in about a week. I'll update if there is anything new. I plan to confirm with him what my laser settings were, and I will post that information here.
January 19, 2009
How are you doing now? Any update to give us?
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January 26, 2009
The short answer, Mom2tj, is that I am really bummed about this whole experience right now. It's been nearly eight weeks since my procedure. I don't like what I'm seeing in the mirror. I did finally regain full feeling in my temples and along the edges of my jaw. I still had twinges of pain in my jawline until about two weeks ago -- as the nerves woke up, but it's normal now. On the negative side, the pigment on my forehead came back in stripes and patches, and I have a rough area of skin above the bridge of my nose that was not there before. I am disappointed in this detail especially because my forehead was not an area of concern for me before the procedure. It was pretty smooth, in fact. My overall impressions of Fraxel Re:Pair after 2 months: * Overall tightening of skin: Yes. However, I see this lessening rather than increasing as the projected three-month active improvement period progresses. Visible laxity is returning especially under my eyes. My eyelids are fully as wrinkled now as they were before the procedure. * Improvement in skin texture: No. Although the tightening has given my skin a firmer appearance overall, it is no smoother, and is in many areas rougher in texture than before. My pores are more apparent than previously on my forehead and around my mouth. My formerly smooth forehead now has a pebbled texture that I find extremely unattractive, and that texture extends down alongside my nose to the area around my mouth and chin. Coupled with the pigment changes caused by Fraxel, these problems make it absolutely necessary for me to wear makeup every day. Previously, I could go without. * Vertical lines above top lip: Improved. This is about the only area where I can categorically say that Fraxel Re:pair makes a difference. I still have some fine lines there, but my upper lip now has fewer creases than before (and I didn't need line filler there when I had it done last time). * Acne scars: No measurable improvement. To be honest, I was warned that the Fraxel might have to be done more than once for acne scars. I'm not doing it again, though. * Orange Peel skin on chin: No improvement. I do have at least another month to go before making a final judgement on this procedure, but so far I feel that I have exchanged a bit of skin laxity (quite normal for my age and acceptable) for tighter skin that is unhealthy and damaged looking. I'm still crossing my fingers for the pebbly texture to smooth out, but at this stage I doubt that it will. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, do peels work to smooth it? Or dermabrasion? My laser setting was 40 mJ, level 10 for my entire face, except for nose and eyelids. Four passes.
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January 26, 2009
On the subject of laser settings, if any Fraxel patients reading this know their settings, can you post them? I just read on another site where someone said they had this done with a setting of 70 mJ at 60%! I would think one's face would fry at that setting (they were pleased with the results, though). Compared to that, I was done at a very light setting.
January 27, 2009
CC, I just had the peri-orbital (SP?) area done on the 14th of this month which is basically the area from the bottom of the nose to the chin, using the nasolabial folds as the line to feather out from. I believe my settings were 50mj for depth and 35% coverage (density, I believe). I've seen a level number mentioned before (like yours was 10), but I don't know what that relates to. Anyone know? I have not written a review yet since I don't know yet if I can give it a thumbs up or thumbs down. It will be 2 weeks tomorrow and the area is light pink at this point, dry, some slightly numb areas still (tho' better every day)and still a little tight feeling. Wrinkles are improved, better on the top lip area than on the bottom, but that might just mean the bottom ones were deeper. Still waiting for complete recovery, but almost there. I had a laser pioneer here in Boston so I feel I was in the best hands possible.
November 23, 2009
I am also looking into the Fraxel repair. Was your doctor in Westborough Ma?
November 24, 2009
I have to say that I am disappointed in the results or lack of results, I should say. I have taken pictures all along and really there appears to be no improvement. It has been 10 months now and I think by about 6 months all the lines above my lip had come back, in spite of my doctor's assurance that I would see improvement going forward from that point. Didn't happen. Not the doctor's fault, just didn't work for me. He's a pioneer in laser out of Boston. Good luck.
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February 8, 2009
Ten weeks post-procedure now. My skin is still patchy, ruddy and rough. My entire face is a very different color from my neck, so daily makeup is necessary,and not always successful in covering it. An area of pitting has come up on my cheek where it was not apparent before my Fraxel treatment. Fine lines have returned, and the crinkling around my eyes is nearly what is was before my procedure. The pigment that has returned (I wear face block daily and wear a hat when outdoors for extended periods, but I live in a sunny climate and some UV rays are going to get through) is in patches and, on my forehead, in stripes. The effect is very aging. I was in a department store the other day testing cosmetics, and I told the saleswoman that I'd had Fraxel and that the particular product I was testing had been recommended to me for use after laser treatments. She looked at me and winced and said, "Oh, is that why it's (my skin) so red?" And I was wearing makeup at the time.