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Smartskin CO2: Results Are a Little Better Than What I Hoped for - Fort Lauderdale, FL

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Smartskin CO2 Fractional Ablative Laser Resurfacing Review
I will start by saying that despite some of the reviews and advertising out there, this is a serious procedure that can do much more than simply leave you looking as if you have “sunburn”. The procedure and recovery time are of course, much better than with traditional CO2 resurfacing. There are also many types of lasers out there, and the aggressiveness of the treatment will vary depending on your doctor, and the skin condition you´re treating. As a result, the reviews are varied. My advice is to obtain as much information as possible from your doctor´s office about what your specific recovery will be like prior to deciding to go through with this procedure.


I have been considering some form of laser resurfacing to treat what I consider to be severe acne scarring that I have had for almost 20 years (since my late teens / early twenties). I have tried other, easier, more superficial treatments (including prescription products, glycolic peels, and a series of microdermabrasion treatments) and nothing really made a difference. I have put off laser resurfacing for several reasons: It’s expensive, it does involve down time no matter what type of treatment you have, I was a bit afraid of the pain and discomfort, and mostly I was fearful of spending money, and experiencing discomfort, and in the end being disappointed with the results.


After going to several consultations, and always leaving thinking that I would not follow through with the procedure, I found a dermatology and cosmetic surgery center that I really felt I could trust. I had my first full face CO2 laser treatment at the beginning of February, 2013. My doctor´s office fully prepared me for what to expect before, during, and after the procedure, which I so much appreciated. It was recommended that I have multiple treatments for optimal results. I have not yet decided how many treatments I will end up having. That will depend on how pleased I am with the results of each treatment and how strongly I feel it is worthwhile to have additional treatments. Time will tell.


Here is my review of the first procedure:
The procedure: The procedure itself was a bit more painful than I was expecting it to be, despite the preparation I received from the medical staff. It’s hard to imagine pain in advance. I was prescribed antivirals and antibiotics to use before and after the procedure. I was also prescribed a water pill (for swelling), Ativan (for anxiety), and Vicodin (for pain) the day of the procedure. I have a very low tolerance for pain medications and have had bad experiences with them in the past. I did not take the Ativan, but the nurse talked me into taking half of the Vicodin, and although it did make me sick in the end, I´m glad she did. They applied a topical numbing cream to my face for about 40 minutes and I was then given a LOT of injections on my face to numb me further. Some of the injections felt OK and others were quite painful, but the process was relatively quick. The laser treatment itself was painful at times. Some areas numbed very well , but other areas were very painful, such as around my lips and especially around my eyes. The PA informed me that I could ask for a break if I needed one and she did a good job of telling me where she would be working and exactly what to expect. She gave me items to squeeze which at first I thought was strange, but in the end I realized were very helpful. She did two passes over my whole face and then an extra pass (3 total) over the areas with the most scarring.


Day 1: Immediately after the procedure my face felt very hot and was throbbing. I was very shaky, but otherwise I was ok. My face was so numb that I really could not move my mouth very well to speak. For the first two hours this is how I felt. Hot, throbbing, and uncomfortable. It also felt a bit weird while the numbing faded. After 3 hours, I actually felt much better - no real pain - and it remained this way until night time. I applied cold, wet, washcloths to my face and then applied an ointment to my face. I did this about every 2 hours throughout the first day. The doctor´s office provided me with a post op healing kit that contained a gentle cleanser, a serum, and the ointment. It was a bit pricey, but in my opinion worth every penny. Throughout the day and evening, my face became increasingly swollen and I had increased spots of pinpoint bleeding, but I knew this was normal. Unfortunately, in the middle of the night I woke up feeling very lightheaded and nauseous (I´m sure from the half a Vicodin I had taken) and got sick twice, which with the condition of my face, was a really unpleasant experience. Not a very good night.
Day 2: When I woke up in the morning my face looked and felt very disgusting! There was oozing and crusting and bloody spots and I was a little more swollen. I was allowed to wash my face (which was a really gross experience by the way) and after washing, applying the serum, and then the ointment, it looked and felt much better. I went in to the doctor´s office the morning of Day 2 for them to just check on me and to sit under an infrared light, which is supposed to help with healing (not sure it helped, but who knows). They said I looked better than what they would have expected, which made me feel very relieved. For the rest of the day, my face became increasingly red (very dark red, like a kidney bean) and the swelling continued to increase and increase and increase, but I felt pretty OK under the circumstances. I continued using wet washcloths dipped in cold water with some ice cubes and a little vinegar. I also placed a small pack of ice on top of the washcloths. I did this about every two hours, then went through the face washing, serum, and ointment routine. I did this throughout the day. I felt OK until it was almost time for bed and then the itching became pretty bad. It was definitely better than pain (and also was expected) but I hardly got any sleep that night due to the severe itching. I decided not to even try to sleep – I read and watched Netfix and dozed when I could. It wasn’t so bad.


Day 3: I was in much better shape in the morning. My face was still dark red and very itchy, but the swelling had begun to lessen a little and I began to feel like a normal human being again, even if I didn´t yet look like one! The main issue on Day 3 was the continued itching!!! I continued my washcloth, face washing, ointment routine throughout the day. In the evening some of the dead skin began to come off very easily during the washing routine, which was great. The itching intensified even more at this point. Unfortunately, I had another almost completely sleepless night as a result. I think at this point I had slept an average of 4 hours per night since I had the procedure. I still hadn’t taken anything at all (not even over the counter medications). I probably should have tried Benadryl.
Day 4: Once again, I woke up feeling and looking a bit better. The swelling had gone down even more. Throughout the day, more and more skin came off each time I washed. By the end of the day it was about 95% gone and I had brand new and very red (like almost cherry red) skin. I used a new serum included in my post op kit this evening. This serum seemed to soothe the itching a bit. The itching was still present, but it was fortunately less intense than yesterday. My husband went out and picked up some Benadryl for me, which I took about an hour before bed. It helped and I should have done this 2 days earlier. I finally got a decent night’s sleep!
Day 5: I woke up so much better and in a great mood today, because I could tell the healing process was well underway. I also think the good night’s sleep helped a lot. I had planned to return to work this afternoon, but unfortunately this really wasn’t possible. My face was still too swollen, so I decided to reschedule my appointments. By the afternoon 100% of the dead skin had come off. By the evening, the swelling appeared to have reduced quite a bit and the shape of my normal face was actually visible again!!! The skin was still so red, which I knew was normal.
Day 6:
Ahhhhh……I felt and looked almost just like me again. I was so relieved and my mood was wonderful at this point. My face was still itchy. I still used the ointment during the day while working from home and still washed every few hours (it just makes it feel better). In the afternoon, I changed to regular moisturizer, used my post op make up and WOW…..I was so happy with how I looked that I actually cried. I don’t know if it’s just because I had been so hideous looking for the last week or if the results really were impressive, but I was really happy with what I saw. I was able to work and although I know I still looked a bit odd (still a little swollen and my face wasn’t moving quite right yet, especially if I smiled), but no one seemed to notice. I used regular moisturizer this evening and slept soooooooo well and appreciated my night of sleep so, so much!
Day 7:
Finally I look like I have a sunburn (albeit a bad one) and my cheeks are still a bit swollen, but otherwise I’m back to normal. Using my soap, serum, and normal moisturizer. Still washing every few hours to help soothe the itching (which is still present but very much improved). Back to work and to my normal routine.
Day 15:
I felt a little bit disappointed with the results at this point since the swelling had completely gone down and, of course, the swelling had made the skin appear smoother. However, I took some pictures and compared them to my “before” pictures and I definitely can’t complain. The results are visible and at this point I feel very strongly that the procedure was worthwhile.
Day 21:
I now feel the results I see are the final results, since there is definitely no swelling left. I am pleased with the results and scheduled my second procedure for the first week of April. The second procedure will focus only on the most scarred areas, not the entire face. This is mostly to save a little money, and also I don’t know that it’s necessary to do the entire face again. I’m taking things one procedure at a time and will make decisions about future procedures as I go.
Day 30:
I have days when I feel a bit disappointed with the appearance of my face, and days when I feel the difference is truly wonderful. I still feel the procedure was worthwhile. My face overall is smoother and tighter. The scars are all still there but since the skin is smoother and tighter, they are less noticeable and almost look a little blurred. I have gotten a lot of compliments and people who do not know what I´ve done have asked what I´m doing differently. Several people have asked if I have changed my make up, which actually makes me feel good since I am wearing much less makeup now than before I had the procedure. I am satisfied enough to feel that this procedures was worth the discomfort, the time off from work, and the money spent. I plan to continue with the second procedue in a couple of weeks.
Helpful Tips:
First I want to thank those that provided reviews and helpful information on this site! I’m not sure I would have decided to go through with this procedure without those reviews, and I’m glad I did. Some of the tips (like the vinegar and water) I learned from this site and these tips were so helpful. The following are the things that really helped me get through this procedure:
Wet washcloths (a lot of them), ice, and vinegar
Cloth Headbands to keep the hair off of my face (and prevent it from getting too greasy from all the ointment).
Sterile gauze, which I would use to dab my face for the itching (you really want to avoid touching your face while it’s healing, and while the skin is so new).
Benadryl!!!! (next time I will start using it on the night of Day 2)
The post op kit from my doctor’s office – fantastic!
Good lip balm
Saline eye drops (my eyes got so dry, especially overnight).
Plain, fresh, low sodium foods and lots of liquids (to help reduce swelling)

Most importantly, it helps if you try to avoid scrutinizing your face on a daily basis! My face would change so, so much in the course of just a few hours. Over the course of a few weeks I went from looking horrible, to looking great, to seeing actual results (which are very good overall but not as good as the first couple of weeks after the procedure when my skin was stil so new and a little swollen). I tried very hard not to look too closely or to compare before and after pictures until at least 2 weeks passed, but it was hard. I am now 6 weeks post procedure and can say that for me, the ¨real¨ results were not evident until about 30 days after the procedure. Since then, my face has remained the same.
I am not posting pictures, but am willing to share them directly with others who message me. I am also willing to share my doctor’s name if asked. I will also do my best to post additional updates in the future. So many people post reviews of the few weeks after the first procedure and then don’t follow up. It would be great to hear from people 6 months or a year afterwards – I will do my best!

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Shino Bay Cosmetic Dermatology, Plastic Surgery, and Laser Institute

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This place is wonderful. My procedures have been done by the physician's assistant, Amy. She has been truly amazing. I cannot say enough about her. All of my experiences with this office have been great. They do not always keep enough products in stock though, so if you need something for your procedure (pre or post) my advice is to just call ahead to make sure they have it.

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April 4, 2013
I had Co2 done by a doctor in Ft Lauderdale, and was left with new scars along with no improvement of older scars. My recovery time was longer than yours; my doc was pretty aggressive. Glad you got better results than I did!
April 4, 2013
I'm so sorry to hear that. It's expensive and definately a lot to go through to be unhappy with the results. Sorry you had such a bad experience.
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May 22, 2013
Whoa, I just noticed you paid $1,000 less than I did. Some things in your review make me suspect we had the same doctor. He sure has dropped his price, if that's the case.
May 22, 2013
Oh, I really hope we didn't have the same doctor, since you had such a negative experience! :( But I realize we might have. It makes me wish even more that your experience would have been better. As for the price, it certainly is possible the price has come down. I think a lot of procedures are costing a bit less than they did a while ago. Also, I had the procedure done by a physician's assistant, and not the actual doctor, so that may have made a difference as well. Have you tried anything other than lasers? I'm having one more treatment tomorrow (which I'm not particulary looking forward to). I'm hoping it might be the last, at least for a while. We'll see, I would like to look into other options that may be helpful now that the scars are so much less visible, but of course not gone.
April 21, 2013
Have many lip lines around my mouth and under eyes. Have been told only way to eliminate is Co2 laser. Very nervous about results such as what I have read on this site, it is good to read of yours. Am 60 now and keep waiting for some new machine that won't cause all those problems. Experienced Dr might be the answer as well as difference in skin types. I am in California and wondered where your doctor is. Thanks joan_kuchta52
April 21, 2013
My doctor is in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. I did a lot of research ahead of time (the negative reviews were so scary for me) and yes, I do think finding the right doctor is the most important factor. For me, it was important to see before and after pics of people with similar skin issues to mine, but most doctors were showing me stock pics from the laser companies - not their own pictures of procedures they performed. The doctor I chose, had this available for me. Also important to find a doctor that gives specific pre and post op instructions and answers your specific questions (not general answers or percentages). I had my second procedure earlier this month and am very pleased. My skin is much smoother and tighter and the scars are so much less visible. Fortunately, I had no complications or side effects either time. The improvement for me has been wonderful. Please just do your research and wait until you find a doctor you trust. And be prepared for a few uncomfortable days....but for me, it was definitely worth it. I'm so happy I did this and feel so much less self conscious. It sounds like a small thing, but after being bothered by my skin for a couple of decades, not worrying about it (even without make up) is truly a nice feeling. I wish you the best of luck!!!!
May 4, 2013
Was this an ablative procedure where they remove the top layer or the kind where the pinholes are pierced by the laser. And what was ballpark price?
May 4, 2013
The laser gal I use is a guru. She went full ablative with a low setting only in my chin. The results are very promising so far. This peeled much differently than the pin hole areas. It peeled as if it were one entire piece opposed to the shedding. I pay 750 for each laser and this included my full neck.
May 4, 2013
I would suggest doing some research as to doctors who concentrate on lasers only. The problem is that all types of doctors can go get certified for lasers, but the machine and start doing it, much like Botox. My gal is not a doctor but a nurse who has been doing only lasers for years. This is all she does. My dermatologist does lasers but not that many so I found a guru. I know it's very scary but my understanding is that the DOT is designed so that it really cannot cause any damage. I have never found any blogs, articles etc about any permanent damage caused by this laser. It doesn't dig at the skin it layers so I'm not sure what laser these people are getting to cause scarring.
May 4, 2013
Yes, it was an ablative laser. The price when I did my full face was about $1500.00. To concentrate only on my scars (which is still a large portion of my face) the cost was about $900.00. I need to post an update, because I'm now 30 days post my second procedure and still very pleased with the results.
June 20, 2013

I am considering this procedure. I live in South Florida, how can I get the name of your doctor

April 28, 2013

I'm writing this as my face is itching like a you know what right now. Day 4 of the DOT and as uncomfortable as I am right now, I want to say, I love this procedure. This is my third one and hopefully my last. I'm sharing my story because I suffered my entire life from cystic acne which left embarrassing scars. So much that it limited my life. I think I was realistic in expecting and hoping for maybe. 25% improvement. Well, it's well exceeded that. What made me feel really good was, prior to this most recent laser, the doc said, wow, I'm hardly seeing any problem areas. She went very aggressive the first two times and although it was both painful and disgusting, but on the 7th day, the heavens open up and I'm amazed. This DOT laser is designed for continued improvement. FL1202, I had the same response as you did, great plump baby skin initially then reality sets in. But with that said, please take pics now and three mos from now. It'll be so gradual that you may not appreciate the improvement but realistically, I have achieved at least 50% improvement with each laser. It's designed to stimulate collagen over time. I encourage you to try it again. I know it's hard to go through but imagine not having to wear make up at all. I'm 48 and at my age, less is best!

May 22, 2013
Thanks so much for the encouragement. You're absolutely right. The appearance has improved even more with a little time. Our experiences are very similar. I too did not have tremendously high expectations and was hoping for about a 30% improvement. It's been much better than that in my opinion. I just turned 40 and to be able to feel comfortable enough to go out without make up for the first time since I was about 15 is something I really appreciate. I'm having another treatment tomorrow - can't say I'm looking forward the the whole process, but I think it will be worth it. Hope your third treatment went just as well as the first two!
January 6, 2015

This is very detailed, thanks for posting. I am considering this, I am in CA. Very terrified of the whole processes, there seems to be so much pain involved. Do you have any pics of the before, after the procedure, and after the swelling, etc. went away? ***email removed***. Thank you. The doctor I am considering is offering this procedure at an incredible price: $800, other doctors I consulted where offering this procedure for $3500 - $5,000. Although I consulted with him, I have a ton of questions now for him, your post has helped a lot as to what I can now ask him that I didn't know. I am wondering if the price is too good to be true now.

February 1, 2015
So sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I would be willing to send photos. Although your e-mail address has been removed from the public post, I think it still shows up on the e-mail I received when you posted this comment. If so, I will e-mail you shortly. As for the price, is this for your whole face or just sections? When I had mine done I was charged $900.00 to treat only the scarred areas (which were large areas), so it may be ok. $5000.00 is terrible! I am now unfortunately in a position to do research all over again. I am considering doing a follow up treatment, but the amazing PA that did my treatments has moved out of state and I believe the prices at the same office have increased substantially. It's so important to use the right person - not sure I'll be brave enough to try again with anyone else. Please let me know if you've decided to go through with this, or maybe you already have?
July 16, 2018
Hi Ms Tink, I live in Sacramento, I saw two doctor's one in Navato and the other in Concord, both charged $700 for SmartSkin Co2 to the hands, however, I'll need three treatments. I think the cost might be okay, especially if your doing three treatments. From what I understand on the pricing, is the more aggressive the more down time the more money. Take the Fitzpatrick skin type test, good luck.
September 2, 2015
Thanks for providing such a detailed review. I'm considering the treatment, but scared to make the commitment.
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Smartskin CO2 update

FL1202
It's been a while so I just thought I'd post an update. I've had 2 further treatments since posting my first review. The second treatment went very similarly to the first. Less swelling but more bleeding for some reason but the healing process was exactly the same and the results as far as minimizing the scars improved even more with the 2nd treatment. I'm still recovering from the 3rd treatment but I'm hopeful the results will be even better in a few weeks. I was reluctant to add photos, but I'm very thankful to those whose photos I was able to review before having my procedures, so.....attached is a set of before and after pics. Hopefully this will help someone out there. I'll update again in a couple of months.

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May 31, 2013

FL1202 - What a wonderful lady you are! Thanks for all the helpful info! And btw, from your pictures, my genuine assessment: if "percentage" improvement is based on before vs. the skin of a Scandinavian fashion model, 80-85% better (90% if the picture was taken in naked sunlight); skin of "normal" citizens, 95-100%. Please post the same angle pic again after your third treatment heals! (Maybe a couple, e.g., one at a month or so out, one at two months or so out, if you don't mind and it's not too much trouble.) Thanks again!!

July 4, 2013
Thank you so much for the kind words!!! I haven't been on this site for a while, but the 3rd treatment went as expected. I will post some more pictures in about a month or so.
June 25, 2013
What a great and helpful review! I have been going back and forth for over a year, but never got it chronicled like this. So generous of you!!!
July 4, 2013
I did the same. It took me a long time to decide to do it. It's not an easy procedure. Good luck with your decision making!
June 27, 2013
I've just had my first ever laser skin resurfacing treatment and I'm on day 5. I can only describe it as brutal!! I've been in and out of hospital almost everday. I've been in agony and no amount of tramadol or anything else would help. I've got severe dizziness and its actually difficult to write this and focus. My face is huge and swollen, I've hardly slept it eaten due to the pain and discomfort and all I did yesterday was cry. If I new how bad this treatment was going to be I would never have got it done, I've feel like I've been to hell and back and it's only day 5. I have a 15 month old daughter who I've not seen since the treatment as I've literally been laid in a dark room feeling horrendous. I would say do you research before getting it done because it does NOT feel like sunburn. I'm hoping for great results at the end of this!!!
July 4, 2013
I'm so sorry to hear you've been in so much pain! Did you have traditional CO2 laser resurfacing of fractional? This doesn't sound typical. :( I wish you the best and hope you recover soon.
July 3, 2013
Very good review. Thank you. I had my laser resurfacing 2 weeks ago. Wasn't too bad altho I looked like a zombie for 5 days. Not too much redness followed. I don't see much of a difference yet so am reserving judgment for 2-3 months when I was told I would see results. I also took the anti-viral, antibiotics and took maybe 2-3 pain pills. Had the numbing cream, xanax & numbing shots; not the worst. Make sure you have someone with you. My advice: Don't do it in the summer when you have more sunlight. I live in Florida and wore a big hat for days along with sunscreen when they gave it to me. The follow up with the techs has been wonderful and I'll see the doctor in another week. My skin was pretty good to begin with so I hope I see the tightness that is supposed to be one of the results, altho I have my doubts. Be sure to ask to see befores & afters, and ask if anyone in the office has had it done. I should have done more of that because some of the techs who had it and are younger than I am, don't have "perfect" skin. I would say by day 5-6 I looked normal enough to face the world, notwithstanding the redness. I was told that this particular laser (don't ask me because I don't know) treatment lasts 5-7 years, which is the only reason I did it. The doctor said I would only need the one. Thank you again for your in depth review.
July 4, 2013
I hope you get the results you're hoping for!!! In my experience the improvement has increased with time, so hopefully this will happen for you too.
July 4, 2013
I am taking photos of my face with my ipad every Sunday - so if there is an improvement I'll see it. The doctor's office doesn't take any photos for at least 6 weeks.
July 4, 2013

just read you review sounds just like me had laser on Monday night getting to the itchy stage now going to get some piriton now thanks makes me more reassured as it sounds like I am progressing along the same lines

July 25, 2013
Hope you recovered well and are now at the stage where you're pleased with the results!
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Wrong doctor's name listed for me

FL1202
I intentionally did not list a doctor's name in my review, but have provided it to anyone who has asked for it. Somehow there is a doctor listed for me in Bulgaria??? I did not enter this information. I do not know this doctor. I had my procedure done in Ft. Lauderdale, FL and have never been to Bulgaria.

I am now 2 months after my 4th, and hopefully final, procedure. I've had more improvement and am still very glad that I've had these procedures. For me, these procedures have drastically improved a condition that I had always thought was not correctable and that had always bothered me and made me. It's nice to have the scars be so much less visible and to feel so much better - not always trying to hide my face in any way possible! The cost and discomfort have been worth it for me.

Hopefully the inaccurrate doctor information can be corrected soon.

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November 5, 2013
You look great!  Congrats! Try to email your community manager at real self for help in changing the doctor's name.
November 5, 2013
November 5, 2013
I´ve been on this site for a while and never had this problem, so I don´t know if all of a sudden I´ve become completely unfamiliar with this site.....but why is someone else answering all comments that are posted to my review????? Why is my doctor information the same information as the person who is responding to my posts? Maybe I´m the one who is confused but this is getting uncomfortable. I´ll follow up with an email for assistance from a community manager.
November 5, 2013
Thank you for clarifying fl1202. It seems like someone else took over your review. I also live in south Florida and wanted to know who your doctor was. I was really confused because the title said laser in Fort Lauderdale and then there was a dr in Bulgaria listed.
November 5, 2013
Yes, someone has clearly taken over my review. Initially I thought it was due to confusion on the part of another user, but it's pretty clear now that it's intentional. Not sure why anyone would do this - maybe to promote a specific doctor, but people actually use this site to obtain helpful information (I know I did), so this is unfortunate. Initially I had not wanted to post my doctor's name, just to try to keep things as confidential as possible, but now I guess it's better than having someone else post information on my behalf. I went to Shino Bay Dermatology on Las Olas and they were great. I've tried to change this information in my profile but I haven't been able to do so yet.
November 5, 2013
You should report any wrongdoing to the site.
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November 5, 2013

Hi FL1202,

Thanks for letting us know.

Due to a temporary error your doctor information was displayed incorrectly for a few hours. We've fixed this now. Your account has not been compromised; this was an error or our side that affected only your review and it has now been addressed.

Thank you again for bringing it to our attention!

--Sharon

November 5, 2013
This situation still doesn´t seem quite right to me. Someone else has been answering all comments and questions posted to my review and this person´s doctor is the doctor that ended up on my profile, so something strange has definitely been occurring. Thanks for you help.
November 7, 2013
November 7, 2013
I don´t really care. He was not my doctor.
November 7, 2013
Lol
November 7, 2013
PERHAPS you should read the community manager review and try to comprehend it; quotation: "Your account has not been compromised; this was an error or our side that affected only your review and it has now been addressed." If you are unhappy with some other issues perhaps you should address them to a certain specialist and seek help. Best of luck!
November 7, 2013
I have sought help. Yet you continue to use your doctor´s name in connection with my review AND the reviews of others, and as a result, our pics and reviews are showing up on internet searches for him. I will continue to seek help on this issue, because this is not right.
November 7, 2013
And by the way, your response to me was pretty obnoxious. This is supposed to be supportive site for people who are considering procedures.
March 16, 2017
May I see pictures please? I am thinking of having this done on my chest ,face and neck and am terrified! But I really need it done... any help would be so appreciated...thank you...