POSTED UNDER Porcelain Veneers Reviews
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UPDATED FROM brandonhunt
5 months post
Just help people understand what's going on...
brandonhuntNovember 9, 2015
$6,000
So I am posting more pictures to help everyone kind of understand what my issue are as far as my comfort and my bite as well as some more befor pictures I have found.
Anyway I don't feel like my crowns need more adjusting I feel like they need some rebuilding if that makes since if you look at my first set of temps which where a little more comfortable compared to my ones have now. I just got them redone at a cosmetic dentist and not happy with the comfort of my current temps so if anyone can tell me more information thatd be nice! I also feel like I have an overjet with these new ones as well.
Thanks !
Anyway I don't feel like my crowns need more adjusting I feel like they need some rebuilding if that makes since if you look at my first set of temps which where a little more comfortable compared to my ones have now. I just got them redone at a cosmetic dentist and not happy with the comfort of my current temps so if anyone can tell me more information thatd be nice! I also feel like I have an overjet with these new ones as well.
Thanks !
Replies (5)
November 9, 2015
Are they veneers or crowns ? They look awesome
November 9, 2015
they might be a bit uncomfortable , however they look awesome , a nice upgrade
November 10, 2015
Being a dentist (not one here on RS), I can't help but comment. Your dentist should make sure your temps are completely comfortable before seating the final crowns. Even if that entails doing the whole thing over again, and it takes numerous appointments. I'm so sorry you are going through this! Once the permanent crowns are seated, it's much harder to adjust the porcelain. So whatever it takes, try to hang in there, but insist on comfort! Also, make sure to have a guard made for your bottom teeth to protect them from the damage porcelain can do to natural enamel :/ (wear at night, especially if you are a grinder). Same thing happened to my mom's lower teeth, and over time it can really wear them down, to the point they could need crowns/ root canals. I know it doesn't help, but like others have said, they do look very nice. However, comfort (bite) is extremely important! ASK if you want them remade, and insist on comfort!
November 10, 2015
thanks so much for commenting! if you have any time at all would you mind if I inbox you with some questions! it would mean the world to me and can help me out alot!
November 10, 2015
I'm not a cosmetic dentist, (I do non-profit, public health dentistry), but no, I don't mind at all.
November 11, 2015
BTW, I just read through almost all of your posts, and looked at the pics. Looks like your new dentist has really done a fantastic job cosmetically. Just make sure to be patient and that your temps are as comfortable in a way that is acceptable, even if it takes a bit more time. I just had to have an all porcelain crown done on my molar this last year. She's a great dentist, but it will never be the same as my natural tooth. I just accept it, and now consciously give it less thought and importance. I now hate the dentist too!!! Even she had to redo it....and she was good. Hehe!!! Anyway, you will have a beautiful smile. I know. Just get it as comfy as possible, do it, then forget about it! Except please go in for regular check ups and cleanings, to avoid future major problems :)
November 11, 2015
I inboxes you !
oooh no more dentist for me...my teeth are just gonna fall out I can't even stomach going back to the dentist I just wish my debtist gave me veeners instead of crowns and I wouldn't be having this issues
oooh no more dentist for me...my teeth are just gonna fall out I can't even stomach going back to the dentist I just wish my debtist gave me veeners instead of crowns and I wouldn't be having this issues
November 11, 2015
Dr. - Would you mind clicking my name, checking out my dental review, and weigh in on my expirience/outcome? Please?
November 11, 2015
I was just looking at the length again and I think it is perfect! How are you feeling about everything? Have you spoken to your dentist?
November 12, 2015
idk if I like the length still :/
I emailed them a couple days ago and nada
I emailed them a couple days ago and nada
November 12, 2015
They never responded?
Definately get a new temp before moving forward! Good Luck with your phone call...
Definately get a new temp before moving forward! Good Luck with your phone call...
November 12, 2015
I was way too nice to my last dentist. It's one thing to be a [RS bleep] and another to ask for what you need.
November 12, 2015
Being nice and conforming to others got me here. Rise up for the occasion.
November 13, 2015
Hi there!
Sorry to hear about your horrific ordeal, but don't give up, you cannot settle for discomfort since it affects your quality of life.
I am an RN and use to advocating for all in need as I have done so many times for myself and my patients. However, one must always try to preserve ones' own teeth always (ie try to salvage as much as your own teeth in old age ie only floss the teeth daily that you want to keep)...... That means the first stop is a good Orthodontist to discuss bite issues, night retainers etc also they refer onto maxillary surgeons if bites/jaws need surgical adjustment; once this is addressed via surgery, lingual or Buckle braces (as invisaligns are for very minor issues as they really are a waste of money) then if one needs to move into crowns, veneers, lumineers etc one can easily transition into this.
I would find the top orthodontist and pursue this avenue or else the only other solution is a complete set of titanium implants (I know some who have had this done, it's expensive but they never complained and the teeth do look perfect), but it's important to always salvage as many of your natural teeth as possible.
I currently have lingual braces (I have Harmony braces from France, there's also Incognito braces from Germany, they're hidden so they don't show on the outside, they're high maintenance as one needs to use wax or "Gusy Goo" as the tongue likes to explore and the tongue needs cushioning from cuts and scrapes ), but I know it will be worth it in the end and the teeth can be pulled down, pushed up, moved as
needed and perfectly aligned (4yrs of Invisalign barely did much hence I have lingual braces now) once all the teeth are in the right place and aligned (and hopefully the jaw/bite doesn't need minor surgical adjustment) then the teeth may benefit from a Whitener and its that simple! I find it very unfortunate that dentists do not firstly recommend their patients to an excellent Orthodontist (braces can be challenging, but it's only temporary for 1-2yrs and worth it, besides a little Milk of Magnesia dabbed onto the minor mouth sores from braces works wonders!!)
I'm fortunate to have one of Canada's best Orthodontist in Vancouver, BC, Canada (Dr Strelsow, Ortho Arts) he teaches dentists and orthodontists about lingual braces and they have just informed me of a brand new device on the market that speeds up orthodontics by 30-50% (ie moving teeth along) it's a device that looks like a retainer and one bites down on this vibrating device for 20 minutes 2 times per day for Bone Remodelling; one can find this information at acceledent.com
I wish you all the best, but don't settle for a reduced quality of life, and your team of dental professionals need to assist you even if it means at their cost or a wholesale cost if they have any integrity and consciousness as they need to fix their mistakes and not let you suffer because I'm sure you could easily find a malpractice attorney that will work on a contingency basis to recoup your losses especially with pain and discomfort that has led you to a diminished quality of life.
Take Care,
Johneen.
Sorry to hear about your horrific ordeal, but don't give up, you cannot settle for discomfort since it affects your quality of life.
I am an RN and use to advocating for all in need as I have done so many times for myself and my patients. However, one must always try to preserve ones' own teeth always (ie try to salvage as much as your own teeth in old age ie only floss the teeth daily that you want to keep)...... That means the first stop is a good Orthodontist to discuss bite issues, night retainers etc also they refer onto maxillary surgeons if bites/jaws need surgical adjustment; once this is addressed via surgery, lingual or Buckle braces (as invisaligns are for very minor issues as they really are a waste of money) then if one needs to move into crowns, veneers, lumineers etc one can easily transition into this.
I would find the top orthodontist and pursue this avenue or else the only other solution is a complete set of titanium implants (I know some who have had this done, it's expensive but they never complained and the teeth do look perfect), but it's important to always salvage as many of your natural teeth as possible.
I currently have lingual braces (I have Harmony braces from France, there's also Incognito braces from Germany, they're hidden so they don't show on the outside, they're high maintenance as one needs to use wax or "Gusy Goo" as the tongue likes to explore and the tongue needs cushioning from cuts and scrapes ), but I know it will be worth it in the end and the teeth can be pulled down, pushed up, moved as
needed and perfectly aligned (4yrs of Invisalign barely did much hence I have lingual braces now) once all the teeth are in the right place and aligned (and hopefully the jaw/bite doesn't need minor surgical adjustment) then the teeth may benefit from a Whitener and its that simple! I find it very unfortunate that dentists do not firstly recommend their patients to an excellent Orthodontist (braces can be challenging, but it's only temporary for 1-2yrs and worth it, besides a little Milk of Magnesia dabbed onto the minor mouth sores from braces works wonders!!)
I'm fortunate to have one of Canada's best Orthodontist in Vancouver, BC, Canada (Dr Strelsow, Ortho Arts) he teaches dentists and orthodontists about lingual braces and they have just informed me of a brand new device on the market that speeds up orthodontics by 30-50% (ie moving teeth along) it's a device that looks like a retainer and one bites down on this vibrating device for 20 minutes 2 times per day for Bone Remodelling; one can find this information at acceledent.com
I wish you all the best, but don't settle for a reduced quality of life, and your team of dental professionals need to assist you even if it means at their cost or a wholesale cost if they have any integrity and consciousness as they need to fix their mistakes and not let you suffer because I'm sure you could easily find a malpractice attorney that will work on a contingency basis to recoup your losses especially with pain and discomfort that has led you to a diminished quality of life.
Take Care,
Johneen.
UPDATED FROM brandonhunt
4 months post
just screw it.
brandonhuntOctober 29, 2015
This whole cosmetic dentistry thing sucks.
Worse decision of my life ever, and I'm tired of trying to fight to be happy with this, it's a little to late for that at this point, I feel as though my oral health has dropped pretty drastically just over a short time.
I went to see an orthodontist yesterday that was close to my house, and basically the only thing he could do was offer me braces or invislign to move my bottom teeth down, which i simply can't afford, and it could take six months to a year before they could move.
on top of the adjustments to bottom teeth, they have been worn down as well pretty bad, so my bottom teeth went from healthy and fine, to very worn and short. Adjustments only made the wear process faster.
My right side (the side I am having issues with) is a little off position; (see picture two). During my first set my crowns, I had one front tooth that was thicker on the right side, was that to fix that ?
Anyway, I've given up hope and just gonna get my permantes and move on with my life, being sadder than I was with my teeth before, granted they look good, but still uncomfortable for me, and very unnatural feeling, which i would assume is from my bottom teeth wear which the damage has been done, none the less I'm still in the temps, so my last hope is the perms will be better, I seriously doubt it though. So the fact of the matter is it just is what it is, my teeth where something I just wasn't meant to be happy with.
It's about to be November i have spent so long worrying about this everyday, things i've missed out on all over teeth just to look good.
If it wasn't for the shorting and wear on my bottom teeth, I might have been able to be happier about it...
of course this is my fault for being talked into something like this so I guess I have to live with the consequences of it.
I just walk around at school looking at the other students looking at there teeth and how they still have there natural teeth and there only worries are college, what mine should be but here I am worried about f'ing teeth. So just screw it, I'm just going to get my permeates and NEVER go to the dentist again, ever.
I wish my issues where just cosmetic instead of being bite issues, guess I got the short end of the stick.
Everytime I look in the mirror its just a constant reminder of the hell I been threw for nice teeth, and was it worth it not one bit, how short my bottom teeth are now is ridiculous, and are so worn so they fit into the back of my top teeth like a puzzle piece.
So im gonna let them know I'm ready for the permeates and just get this whole thing over with and not ever go back to the dentist. I attached my photos my orotho gave me, I explained to my new dentist that my bite doesn't feel right still but he just blames it on the grinding, even though I wear my night guard so. so my last hope is the merman
Worse decision of my life ever, and I'm tired of trying to fight to be happy with this, it's a little to late for that at this point, I feel as though my oral health has dropped pretty drastically just over a short time.
I went to see an orthodontist yesterday that was close to my house, and basically the only thing he could do was offer me braces or invislign to move my bottom teeth down, which i simply can't afford, and it could take six months to a year before they could move.
on top of the adjustments to bottom teeth, they have been worn down as well pretty bad, so my bottom teeth went from healthy and fine, to very worn and short. Adjustments only made the wear process faster.
My right side (the side I am having issues with) is a little off position; (see picture two). During my first set my crowns, I had one front tooth that was thicker on the right side, was that to fix that ?
Anyway, I've given up hope and just gonna get my permantes and move on with my life, being sadder than I was with my teeth before, granted they look good, but still uncomfortable for me, and very unnatural feeling, which i would assume is from my bottom teeth wear which the damage has been done, none the less I'm still in the temps, so my last hope is the perms will be better, I seriously doubt it though. So the fact of the matter is it just is what it is, my teeth where something I just wasn't meant to be happy with.
It's about to be November i have spent so long worrying about this everyday, things i've missed out on all over teeth just to look good.
If it wasn't for the shorting and wear on my bottom teeth, I might have been able to be happier about it...
of course this is my fault for being talked into something like this so I guess I have to live with the consequences of it.
I just walk around at school looking at the other students looking at there teeth and how they still have there natural teeth and there only worries are college, what mine should be but here I am worried about f'ing teeth. So just screw it, I'm just going to get my permeates and NEVER go to the dentist again, ever.
I wish my issues where just cosmetic instead of being bite issues, guess I got the short end of the stick.
Everytime I look in the mirror its just a constant reminder of the hell I been threw for nice teeth, and was it worth it not one bit, how short my bottom teeth are now is ridiculous, and are so worn so they fit into the back of my top teeth like a puzzle piece.
So im gonna let them know I'm ready for the permeates and just get this whole thing over with and not ever go back to the dentist. I attached my photos my orotho gave me, I explained to my new dentist that my bite doesn't feel right still but he just blames it on the grinding, even though I wear my night guard so. so my last hope is the merman
Replies (5)
October 29, 2015
Time will heal this wound Brandon. Please don't give up on your dental health, because of a dentist.
Your going to be awesome if you let yourself.
Your going to be awesome if you let yourself.
October 31, 2015
Totally agree, dk. :) And Brandon, I'm sure people are looking at you wishing they had your nose, your ears, your lips, eyes, body, etc. You don't know the problems and worries people have. They may be looking at your teeth wishing they had yours! This too shall pass.
October 29, 2015
Your bite needs to be perfect or you will wear your teeth out and be uncomfortable. I went to Dr Glen Dupont in St Petersburg Fl for a full mouth restoration. My teeth were done perfectly the first time. He is an international teacher for bite disorders and head of the Dawson Academy. You have to live with your teeth the rest of your life. Google Dupont and Wilkerson. Get an evaluation. He has patients come from all over the USA.
October 31, 2015
Brandon, over time you will become accustomed to the new feel of your mouth... Yes, it is going to feel foreign and wierd for a while. But as long as you are not in pain and can chew properly etc... You will get there. Try to focus not so much on your mouth but your mental and emotional state... That's where it all starts. Counseling changed my life!
October 31, 2015
Ps- sending you lots of support and good vibes :-) we hear you!!!
November 1, 2015
Brandon you are truly a handsome young man and your teeth are beautiful, relax. Take a deep breath go out for a run or a bike ride and try to focus on other things in your life, your teeth will be fine.
November 2, 2015
Ditto...^^^^^^^^^ What they said, I echo!
Blessings friend.
Hope you find peace of mind.
Blessings friend.
Hope you find peace of mind.
UPDATED FROM brandonhunt
4 months post
Well...
brandonhuntOctober 20, 2015
Just giving an update I wanted to wait at least a week to let everybody know how everything is going.
Well so far not so good, my bite is not "corrected" as much as I thought it would be...I think they look great better than what I had before...but I must say im a little disappointed as far as comfortablitly goes..honestly it feels almost the same just a little different and a little bit more stable, I go in this Thursday to talk about what I do and don't like about the temps, so we will see how's this goes.
But what im really upset and pissed about the most is the fact that my bottom teeth have been ground down to almost nothing and look uglier than they did before now I hate the way my bottom teeth look and there is nothing I can do about it at all! I can get crowns replaced but the bottom teeth can't be brought back the are sooo much shorter now like significantly shorter than before and I don't understand for the life of my why just like why dentist would do that.
I started my depression meds, but i am behind on school and behind on everything on life right now I don't do anything but worry about my teeth, especially the bottom ones because there is nothing I can do to bring that back at all!
so at this point I feel as though it's not something I am going to be. happy with just somthing I have to deal with, I would've left my teeth alone if i knew what I knew now and at least I wouldve been comfortable having a nice smile is worthless if your not happy, I'm going to explain what I do and don't like about my crowns but honestly I don't know if he is gonna try to help me anyway. I literally give up on trying to be happy with this it just something im gonna have to deal with and be on depression meds for the rest of my life more than likely. I posted pictures of my teeth before and now and I hate them i went from hating my top teeth to hating the bottoms and can't do crap about it!
I probally would've been over this by now if my bottom teeth hadn't be messed with but here I am with a new worthless smile when I'm still sad, Almost 5months of my life gone over teeth. So looking like I'm screwed so far and just have to live with it I'll never be the same again which is fine and after I go back for my temp discussion im hoping that we can work somthing out, but I doubt it I'm all out of hope and tired of the dentist after all this is said and done I am never ever gonna go back to the dentist, for the rest of my life. cosmetically I'm happy physical im not and I rather be happy physical than cosmetically, cause I don't even want to smile anymore so all this I've been threw was for absolutly nothing.
so I went to being a normal 23 year old to a 23 year old with a messed up bite and more teeth problems than ever before and grounded down bottom teeth to that I can't get back.
so I get to spend my holidays sad
Well so far not so good, my bite is not "corrected" as much as I thought it would be...I think they look great better than what I had before...but I must say im a little disappointed as far as comfortablitly goes..honestly it feels almost the same just a little different and a little bit more stable, I go in this Thursday to talk about what I do and don't like about the temps, so we will see how's this goes.
But what im really upset and pissed about the most is the fact that my bottom teeth have been ground down to almost nothing and look uglier than they did before now I hate the way my bottom teeth look and there is nothing I can do about it at all! I can get crowns replaced but the bottom teeth can't be brought back the are sooo much shorter now like significantly shorter than before and I don't understand for the life of my why just like why dentist would do that.
I started my depression meds, but i am behind on school and behind on everything on life right now I don't do anything but worry about my teeth, especially the bottom ones because there is nothing I can do to bring that back at all!
so at this point I feel as though it's not something I am going to be. happy with just somthing I have to deal with, I would've left my teeth alone if i knew what I knew now and at least I wouldve been comfortable having a nice smile is worthless if your not happy, I'm going to explain what I do and don't like about my crowns but honestly I don't know if he is gonna try to help me anyway. I literally give up on trying to be happy with this it just something im gonna have to deal with and be on depression meds for the rest of my life more than likely. I posted pictures of my teeth before and now and I hate them i went from hating my top teeth to hating the bottoms and can't do crap about it!
I probally would've been over this by now if my bottom teeth hadn't be messed with but here I am with a new worthless smile when I'm still sad, Almost 5months of my life gone over teeth. So looking like I'm screwed so far and just have to live with it I'll never be the same again which is fine and after I go back for my temp discussion im hoping that we can work somthing out, but I doubt it I'm all out of hope and tired of the dentist after all this is said and done I am never ever gonna go back to the dentist, for the rest of my life. cosmetically I'm happy physical im not and I rather be happy physical than cosmetically, cause I don't even want to smile anymore so all this I've been threw was for absolutly nothing.
so I went to being a normal 23 year old to a 23 year old with a messed up bite and more teeth problems than ever before and grounded down bottom teeth to that I can't get back.
so I get to spend my holidays sad
Replies (5)
October 22, 2015
Feeling your same pain here :(
But I do know that somehow we have to find the courage to be alive again.
During your meeting tomorrow I hope they are able to address the concerns you still have. I bet they are able to do almost anything you want, besides giving you back your cross bite. Thinking about you... Rise above. Mel
But I do know that somehow we have to find the courage to be alive again.
During your meeting tomorrow I hope they are able to address the concerns you still have. I bet they are able to do almost anything you want, besides giving you back your cross bite. Thinking about you... Rise above. Mel
October 22, 2015
Yeah somebody else on here said that.... Before the procedure the two teeth on either side of your front two teeth sat behind your bottom teeth when you'd bite down...... Known as a cross bite, from what I have read from information retrieved from others on this site....
A crossbite is not ideal........?
Ask your dentist...
Cause I read it on the Internet :)
A crossbite is not ideal........?
Ask your dentist...
Cause I read it on the Internet :)
October 22, 2015
Or not? Lol I don't know...... But I do know your restorations do not look like your originals, but I thought it was because they were correcting that...
October 22, 2015
who knows my mouth is all jacked up. I just wish my bottom teeth where left alone
October 22, 2015
Yes, and the best thing to do is let it be. We are not in control here.... We want to think we are, but we are not.
More useful information that I have read is that this type of cosmetic surgery can take a very long time to get use to.
We have to allow our minds to move on....
Concentrate on something that deserves more attention, like your girlfriend.
More useful information that I have read is that this type of cosmetic surgery can take a very long time to get use to.
We have to allow our minds to move on....
Concentrate on something that deserves more attention, like your girlfriend.
October 24, 2015
@dkspaceguitar.... you seem like a very kind soul & I enjoy reading your posts.
Keep on encouraging others, it is super refreshing in today's negative environment online.
Thumbs way up!!
@brandonhunt
I'm going on Monday to get my top 6 crowns done. I'll give you an update on how everything goes.
Seeing the complications and reports of folks unhappy with their results here on real self?
Has definitely got me a bit concerned, but not worried.
Worrying causes depression, depression causes death. Because being depressed is the absence of being alive.
I'll be praying for you....I would agree with the advise by others here that are encouraging you to please try to let your brain settle and accept your current situation and try to find peace about your situation at least until the opportunity arises to get your issues either fixed, or you learn to live with the beautiful smile you have.
Wish me luck!
Keep on encouraging others, it is super refreshing in today's negative environment online.
Thumbs way up!!
@brandonhunt
I'm going on Monday to get my top 6 crowns done. I'll give you an update on how everything goes.
Seeing the complications and reports of folks unhappy with their results here on real self?
Has definitely got me a bit concerned, but not worried.
Worrying causes depression, depression causes death. Because being depressed is the absence of being alive.
I'll be praying for you....I would agree with the advise by others here that are encouraging you to please try to let your brain settle and accept your current situation and try to find peace about your situation at least until the opportunity arises to get your issues either fixed, or you learn to live with the beautiful smile you have.
Wish me luck!
October 22, 2015
I know how you feel. My dentist must have grounded my teeth to nubs. She will not send the post impressions after I had 10 root canals in one month in 2014. I still have horrific pain/ tender gums and am limited on what I can chew . She must be s horrible human to have perpetrated such lack of care for my person. Very depressing. But nobody can see your pain and certainly nobody wants to hear about it 24/7. I am so sorry I ever walked in Dr. Vickniki's office.
January 11, 2018
My dentist will not send the post impressions either. It’s been 4 Years, and every day my mouth hurts 24/7. I have to watch what I eat still. Also I have secretion which are slightly think and I have to keep swallowing all day or I will have a coughing fit. Terrible what one human can do to another ; and she was so flip about it!!
Regarding your bite, I can imagine that's not comfortable, but understand that once you do something cosmetic to alter oneself, there is little to no chance of it going back to the way it was. Once you really & truly accept this, this will be liberating - AND your new starting point!
The reason your post spoke to me is because of your inherent distress with all that's happened. I feel sad that all the blessings in your life now come second because of this issue. It's a little like when you have a little rock in your shoe; the rest of your body is in perfect condition, but you just can't get your mind off that little rock! My darling, I'm here to share that I know exactly what that's like, but it will take away from YOUR happiness; YOUR confidence; YOUR life - if you let it! You have the power to choose what you focus on, and whether it will make your life better or worse is completely up to YOU. THAT'S the power YOU have.
Depression is also a challenge; I've been through that to. Use the meds to help you re-learn to focus on all that's RIGHT with your life ... you have many blessings - focus on those, and more will come! I can promise you that with every cell in my being. Start with simple things - however small. Maybe you are feeling glad about an awesome pair of shoes you're wearing; or a shirt; or that you had your favourite food - something - anything - that will help turn your mind to the positive.
Once you get back in that frame of mind, the next step on your journey will become clear & you'll just KNOW to take back your power & speak with confidence to whomever you need to.
Thinking of you, and wishing you well on your journey. xx