The light of that very long tunnel is getting brighter

I know they all protect themselves. It's been really hard. My kids have been looking for surgeons all over and a lot of them don't even want to take on my case

I never had a choking feeling. However, three years after my initial facelift and platysmaplasty, I felt my face/neck was hanging from picture wire. My new doctor wasn't sure why I felt that shoelace sensation. During my consultation with him, I was the one who told him the palpable scar tissue corresponded with my discomfort. I'm assuming my body rejected the non-dissolvable sutures as though they were foreign matter. I also told him that when the skin of my face was held tauter, it relieved my discomfort. The inside of my face was too tight. The skin on my face was too loose. He listened. He heard me, unlike the thirteen other plastic surgeons I consulted. They had different plans for me. They all wanted to do another deep plane facelift, another platysmaplasty, etc. One even told me that he could only help my situation by including an endoscopic browlift and a lateral temporal lift. You must be your own advocate. I had done my homework for more than three years. I wouldn't allow anyone to railroad me into anything that I knew instinctively would not better my situation.

Dear Gia, I read all your posts - they were "the light in MY dark tunnel".
I am going through the exact same thing you went for 4 years and NOBODY has an idea what has been wrong. I am going though that hell you described: extreme discomfort and pain every single day. I can't imagine how you lived like that for 4 years, but assume because it is extremely difficult to find a doctor who is capable to help. To listen and "hear' you, like you put it. I saw about 8 doctors and you are right - they all have their own agenda and it is NOT to help you. I was offered total redo by one and steroid injection by another, but nobody could actually explain what is wrong.
Another thing - they can not "see" how tight and uncomfortable I am within my face and think I am complaining about extra loose skin, hanging over that "picture wire" like you put it. That's true - I look worse than before the surgery, but this is not my main concern right now, I just want to FEEL better.
I am so glad I came across your posts and I have already contacted Dr.Thorne.
I wanted to ask you if you had any tests done prior to the revision that could show the excess of scar tissue? I had CT, but it doesn't show the fibrosis. I am wondering if ultrasound does. Did you have any tests or was it only during the surgery that the severe scar tissue was discovered?
I thank you in advance for the answer and also - for your posts. They were truly the only thing that gave me hope of recovery.

Loving297328, who was your original doctor?

Dr.Barnavon here in Hollywood, FL. I just left him a review here. I am sure he can't care less, but it could be a warning to other women.
He does mostly breasts, from what I understood and might be good at breasts surgeries. Not sure why he decided to work on my face... But the most frustrating part is that he has totally ignored my complains from the beginning and is ignoring my calls and messages now.

Ultrasound is incapable of picking up internal scar tissue. I was able to feel it inside my face. It was thick and globular. You are in great hands with Dr. Charles Thorne. If you should need to ask me any questions, feel free to message me. Anytime.

Thank you so much, Gia! I am still guessing if it is a scar tissue or the surgeon damaged something because I still have pain in my TMJ area (what I complained about from the very beginning) or he overpulled one side. It is hard to determine because I don't have ANY doctor to discuss it with. No-one actually, so I so much appreciate finding you. I will make a virtual consultation with Dr.Thorne (I am in FL), hope he will be able to diagnose virtually.
Thank you so much for responding, Gia!

P.S. Scar tissue can be removed. It's just a tedious process, and the surgeon must be super careful as scar tissue is often near nerves, and it is hard to differentiate between the two. From my experience, very few plastic surgeons want to deal with that issue. Instead, they prefer to perform facelifts, neck lifts, brow lifts, etc. That's what I meant when I wrote that they have their own agenda. Keeping that in mind, there is a risk that surgery could create more scar tissue. I was so uncomfortable for so long that I took that risk, and I usually am not a risk taker. I also don't have any medical background. For the past (close to) four years, I dove into researching my particular complication, and now I'm just sharing what I learned.

I will check him out! I hope he can fix my pixie ears and terrible scarring. I already had a revision with my doctor who made it worse.

Do you live in NY? If not, where did you have to travel from?

I live in New York City.

It's worth checking him out. He will hear what you say, and if he can help you, he will. He won't string you along. Besides being an excellent surgeon, he's genuinely a decent man.

Thank you so much...... I did email the office and may schedule a consultation.

Excellent. I hope for a positive outcome for you, no matter your choice.

Thank you. So many doctors told me to go back to my original doctor the fix the pixie ears/ scars/ thick tragus etc. I did and he made it worse!

I am wondering if you can send me photos of your scars close up in a private email?

Ty for taking the time to answer me....

My discomfort came from internal scar tissue. I don't have visible scars. So I have to be honest and say that both doctors did a good job regarding that matter. Dr. Thorne works a lot with ears. I'm sure you saw that on his website.

Ty.
Would you say this is a 3rd time you went in. Dr. J tried to fix his mess?

Just did a consult with Dr. Thorne unfortunately he said that two out of 22 patients have found relief and he wasn't very hopeful with a case like mine that had a very tight feeling inside the face

Well, thank you very much!

Hi Gia - I can’t figure out how to direct message on here. I have the exact symptoms. Would you be willing to talk to me?

She was banned by Realself. I spoke to her before the ban and also had a Thorne revision after bad Jacono results so may be able to help

Can you share her contact? Did you have similar concerns as Gia? I had a consult with Thorne last week (before I received my operative reports). He now has them so hoping we can revisit this coming week.

I spoke to her just before you can no longer private message her. Not sure why though. . So you used Dr. Thorne as well? I was considering consulting with him but for first time surgery for facelift and neck lift. Are you happy with your results?

How was your consultation? Does he spend enough time going over issues?

No, I didn’t use Dr. Thorne previously. I reaching to him to help correct previous issues. My consult was via video as I am not local. He needed my operative reports to really offer his assessment, so more to come on that.

I meant my question for georgiapeachy. It sounds as though she used Dr. Thorne.

Thanks, blondchic!

@keats19 I also have had recent conversations with Gia and had a few more questions for her but see her message button is off. I was sad to see that. Gia if you are seeing this can you contact me?

Thank you very much. I don't know how I trudged through. Most of the time, it was with the idea and hope that I would get better, being that's what my initial surgeon told me. But, I finally got to the point where I knew I could not believe him. So yes, thick scar tissue and non-dissolvable sutures were the culprits. But, I have to add that after my tweak by my initial surgeon, I felt slightly better when he released the platysma. At least that's what he said he did. But, the operative report of my tweak does not truthfully reflect the surgery and that is a fact. So I am very distrustful of all of it. Also, the bottom line is my initial surgery was way too aggressive.

Hi Gia, I've been following this thread and rooting for you. Could you share how you are doing at this point and what, if anything you found to be helpful.

Interesting. First, let me say that I'm sorry you're experiencing such discomfort. If anyone can understand, it's me. I genuinely hope you find a resolution to your issues. Your review of Dr. Jacono on April 27, 2020, should be removed as it sends the wrong message to prospective patients. Dr. Jacono is not a genius or "the man," as you wrote. That is just my opinion.

You are right. I am removing it. I did look much better at first but when he went back to revise some things he actually made things worse. My eyes have been killing me since. He removed too much fat and skin under my eyes.

If I were you, I would remove it and write a review about how you are currently feeling/doing. And again, I sincerely hope you find a resolution to your situation. Unfortunately, due to social media, people look at Dr. Jacono's before and after photos. What they can't see is the suffering his patients' experience. No one wants to ask how you're feeling. They're just interested in how you look. It is still the biggest regret of my life. I can never get those four years back.

Oh no! @googoofor you. Your review on Jocono fixing Kao's mistake was why I was going to try Jocono to fix me. I'm sorry you are suffering.

I don't know why anyone would consider having surgery with Dr. Jacono after reading a plethora of undeniably serious negative reviews of him that have been posted on this website. I have even posted a picture of sutures that, after four years, were removed from my face - which Dr. Jacono told me at least a dozen times were dissolvable. Clearly, they were not dissolvable sutures. So it doesn't surprise me that Googoo4you can feel her internal sutures.

Really? Were you planning on having surgery with Dr. Jacono after reading and posting on MRE's review?