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Asian 33 F: Subcision w/suction and Microneedling (w/Dr. Rapaport) - Englewood Cliffs, NJ

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I just got this procedure done today. I've heard...

hots4koshi
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I just got this procedure done today. I've heard positive things about subcision, so I went to Dr. Rapaport, who is one of the few docs performing this surgery. Once at the office, the doctor gave a free consultation during which he determined Subcision with Micro-needling to be the best solution for me, because I had some rolling scars and mostly a lot of enlarged, pitted pores on my cheeks and temples. The subcision would cost between $800-900 and the micro-needing would cost $695, plus extra fees for hydroquinone (to prevent my asian skin from hyper-pigmenting) and a new technique called Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) which supposedly helps skin heal faster (this involved about 5 of my many needle injections that day). Dr. Rapaport recommended that I may need to do another round of micro-needling, but that I wouldn't have to do any more subcision after this first time.

My subcision experience: Dr. Rapaport took a marker and noted the areas he needed to treat. The most painful part is in the beginning when the nurse (whose wonderful bedside manner really helped) injects an anesthetic called Lidocaine into the marked areas. Though the needle doesn't go deep, the Lidocaine burns, so it felt fairly painful (around 8 from 1-10) but brief. I was glad when it was all done. Then Dr. Rapaport took his subcision needle and went over my face. I didn't feel anything there, but did smell my blood initially, which I could tell the nurse was wiping away a lot of. It was all over in 10 minutes or less.

My micro-needling experience: Then I was taken to their operating room, and after the nurse wiped my Plasma onto my scars, Dr. R took a pen-like machine with 10-15 short needles on it and began to "drill" my face with it. All over, multiple times. It hurt only a little bit, felt more like getting scratched with a prickly vibrating brillo pad. That took about 10 minutes too. Dr. R injected the regions with my plasma (PRP). Then the nurse bandaged my face up, advising me to take my bandages off the next night, after which I need to use the suction machine they provided and keep my skin slathered in sunscreen.

The worst part of the whole experience (besides the Lidocaine) was having to take the public transportation to and from NJ (I'm coming from Queens, NYC) with obvious face bandages. I was very glad to be home.

I will keep anyone reading this updated with my thoughts on the procedure's effectiveness. And will add pictures too eventually.

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Jeff Rapaport, MD

Jeff Rapaport, MD

Dermatologic Surgeon, Board Certified in Dermatology

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Replies (68)

December 19, 2014
Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you post some pictures if possible? I am thinking to do subcision too. The suction machine was provided to use at home for free or with extra charge?
December 19, 2014
You're welcome. I do plan to post pictures. I have Before shots already, but would like to give this a couple days for the micro-swelling to go down before I take After shots. I'd prefer to post them altogether. The suction machine was provided to use at home for free.
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December 19, 2014

I a so glad you took the time to share your journey to removing your acne scars with us. The microneedling sounds like it would be so painful, glad you didn't find it that bad. I look forward to your updates. Take care!

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December 20, 2014
I had the same procedure ,the same day ,let me know how is healing ur skin
December 20, 2014
Hi Luna, Well, I took off the bandages yesterday and there are a lot of darkish red marks where the subcision occurred. I guess this is the hyperpigmentation, which I'm supposed to apply hydroquinone on. I'm not too worried about that. There are also some small hard sometimes itchy nodules under some of the red marks. I've heard of this happening to others, and feel confident that they will disappear with time. Skin feels tender in areas, like it's bruised. As far as the acne scars the Dr. treated, they do look much flatter and smoother, not noticeable at all. But it's only the 3rd day so, gotta wait for all the swelling to go down.
December 20, 2014
Hope your happy with your results, it takes time but from what I read this is the way to go for pitted scars. How many did you have subcision on?? and did you get the suction machine to take home?? How much did it cost you for the subcision & needling w/prp?? I hope your happy and I think you will be. Just remember to suction the scars, a Mr Matt on another site got great results from the same procedure using suction. Some times they put filler under it to keep it raised. Keep us informed please. Happy healing!!
December 20, 2014
Thanks! To answer your questions: - I think I had about 35 scars treated with subcision, based on the number of red marks. - Yes, Dr. R gave me a suction device to take home free of charge. - It cost $1046.30 total for this first session. Not including hydroquinone, it cost $950. - I didn't get fillers because Dr. R said it's best to do that after healing from subcision.
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December 20, 2014
Me too I have bruised ,swelling..im scars because I have a lot lol ...but I forgot to ask the dr when I can star to used hydroquinone
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December 20, 2014
Im so scared with the hyper pigmentation,did u stars to used hydroquinone
December 21, 2014
You can start using it after the bandage is off. Once a day, at night.
December 21, 2014
Hyperpigmentation is nothing more than red marks left after injury to the skin. They always fade with time, and you can speed it up with lemon juice or hydroquinone, etc.
December 21, 2014
Do I have this right??The hydroquinone alone was 950.00 ??!!! I ask only because others have said it was much cheaper. I think the prices I had read were for 4% hydroquinone that cost them anywhere from 20 to 70.00. And 35 subcisions with the needling w/ prp was 1,046.00 ? That doesn't sound bad at all for subcision & prp needling but 950 for the cream sounds like a lot if I'm reading your post right. Does he make you buy that there or can you get your own? If you go again for more needling is he going to use prp again & charge you again or is the 2nd treatment included in your orig price ? If it's not included how much does he charge for needing w/prp without subcision? I'm dying to know what you think once it settles down, I think you'll be happy, or at least I'm hoping so because that was my next option. Thanks so much for getting back so soon.
December 21, 2014
No, 950 for the subcision and microneedling + PRP. $96.30 for the hydroquinone.
December 21, 2014
I think Dr. R needs to get more PRP to use for the 2nd microneedling, so he would have to charge me again. PRP was about $100. You can probably get the hydroquinone yourself (I thought I was charged too much for it too but paid anyway). Needling with PRP only is $695 + $100. Hope that answers all your price questions.
December 21, 2014
Oh that's not bad at all. Can't wait to hear what you think but do far still reading that that's the thing to do that helps a lot. He seems to know what he's doing. Keep us posted. Very. very interested in your results. Hope you can post before & after's. It would be very helpful. Great time to do it too during the winter. Wishing you all the best for you & hopefully for me. Just need to know how long it takes to heal since I have affairs to go to. When I go I'll let him know I heard about it from you.
December 21, 2014
Yep it did and to me it's very reasonable for doing 35 subcisions and needling with prp. I'd have bought it there too. Know your using a good brand. Thanks I think i'll be going asap. Just need to hear how long it takes to heal since I have some places I have to go to first. Thanks so much.
December 21, 2014
Sorry I made a typo: it's $850 for subcision. Microneedling is $695. PRP is $100. Not sure how long it will take to heal, but will keep you updated.
December 21, 2014
Luna, What's the name of your Dr?
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December 24, 2014
Hi ,I have the hydroquinone from my regular dermatologist,the insure doesn't cover so I bought for 40 dollars..the dr Jeffrey rapaport didn't give any cream..I paid 1200 dollars for one subcion and one micronedles .now I my skin dry and red and I see some mark I think from the nedlle I hope this treatment help because im tired with this scars
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January 18, 2015
He changed me for ,800 subcision and 400 for micronedles,how s ur scars,did work for u