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A CAUTIONARY TALE: MY EXPERIENCE + HISTORY WITH 2 ULTHERAPY TREATMENTS bet. 2011 - 2016 (1st Review was after my 2nd Treatment)
ORIGINAL POST
I have gotten Ultherapy previously, when it first...
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I have gotten Ultherapy previously, when it first came out (and it's changed since then). There are more heads you can use and overall, the techniques have been improved.
Three years ago I noticed some results, but the girl who gave me the procedure was a nurse (not a Plastic Surgeon or Dermatologist), and it was so new, she had limited experience delivering the procedure, and thus, (even tho she is great), I did suffer from a cyst-like burn (which is now a scar), above my forehead and I also had some bruising.
This time, I wanted to get my money's worth, and spoke to the people at Ulthera before I started researching options for a practitioner. I put together a list of very specific questions, and also made sure I selected a Ultherapy practice that had most or all of the various heads that are available (Ulthera has released different heads and if you are a skilled Ulthera practitioner, you can use each head in a different manner during treatment to get the maximum results vs. using the same head the entire treatment) It's more effective to be able to have options for each patient in terms of the heads that are used during treatment).
Also there is a technique and specific level of facial symmetry and proportion knowledge the practitioner must have to deliver the best results possible. Case in point: The doctor I went to did not treat my cheeks specifically b/c he said they looked good, and I told him I had some filler in my cheeks and under my eyes). We wanted to focus on my forehead, temples, lower face and neck as priority in terms of the treatment.
I will update this review in 6 months with final results... :) (which I am sure will be great)
Overall, best experience ever -- still pretty painful - Yes - so take painkiller or xanax -- but nothing that you can't get through - and no pain - no gain! :)
UPDATED FROM dallasgirl32
1 year post
I HATE ULTHERAPY
I am 43 and have had Ultherapy twice – once in 2010 and a second time in 2014. The first time I had Ultherapy, it was the hottest thing out there and was brand new. I went to a prominent facial plastic surgeon’s office in Beverly Hills, who I had been seeing for Botox and Fillers for years. There was a trust level there. The biggest problem here is that his nurse was trained in, and performed the procedure. It was extremely painful, and at the time, there weren’t a variety of heads/head sizes available, so she was limited to what she could do. Also, back then, there was not a significant amount of history with Ultherapy, and many did not know at the time, that it DOES shrink facial fat, and the TECHNIQUE of the Ultherapy technician is CRITICAL to the end result. During this treatment, I developed a large “cyst” above my right eye, which proceeded to turn into a deep indented scar above my right eyebrow, that I am STILL treating to this day and need to fill with filler. It’s almost as if the Ultherapy burned off part of my eyebrow, as well, and the scar remains. At the time, I emailed Ultherapy to notify them of the issue and they told me to go back to the doctor. My doctor seemed to brush it off and offered to fill it for me, with a filler, (he had an Ultherapy machine to pay for, after all, and why would he admit there was anything wrong with it, or that the procedure had been performed incorrectly?)
In any event, 4 years later, I thought I would try Ultherapy again. Even though I had gotten the Cyst above my eye from the first time, I thought I’d find an experienced Facial Plastic Surgeon, who performed the treatment him/her self vs. having a nurse practitioner do it. I relentlessly searched for more info, interviewed doctors via Skype, asked questions about their training, their technique, the head sizes they use, etc. I settled on one doctor in LA, who I felt was the right guy. The interesting thing is that he told me he did not want to touch my round, high cheekbones, because he directly told me “it can cause volume loss”. His comment made me feel more comfortable in my selection of a doctor. “He knows what he’s doing”, I thought.
The first three months after Ultherapy, you think everything is fine. You feel good, your face is numb in certain areas, and you’re thinking “hey, this really works!” You’re even kind of glowy (probably from the intensity of the pain). In the first three months, you feel great because your skin is slighly puffy and swollen and then you start to see some tightening. However, cut to 9 months to a year later…..The perception usually changes, as I’ve read so many others have experienced, as well.
In Early-2015, I started seeing photos of myself and had a shocking reaction. “Why did my eyes look so different??”…I had this shocked look I had never seen before)….I was horrified. “What else was different?” I couldn’t put my finger on it, but my face / head seemed smaller and I looked OLDER – my face was so small I had lost a lot of my baby face look that helps you look young. I have great genes and people always assume I’m in my early 30’s so there was no way I’d aged at that pace in 4 years since first-getting Ultherapy. I’d spend frustrated / agonizing hours analyzing 2009 photos (Pre-Ultherapy), when I felt I looked great and was confident to take selfies, to now, when I couldn’t take a selfie that would turn out good. I could not figure out why my eyes looked SO different. I went to 3 different plastic surgeons for their own review, brought pictures of myself “before” and showed them “now” in person. Unfortunately, many had Ultherapy in their office and would never say anything bad about it, even if I suggested that might be the culprit. I was told I should get fat injections by 2 of the doctors.
Initially…..Never in a million years did I think the Ultherapy had something to do with it. After all, Ultherapy is supposed to BUILD new Collagen and thus, I’d expect, PLUMP the skin! There was no way this amazing investment I had made, could be NEGATIVE….esp after all of the photos out there with such amazing results. However, after hours of analysis and online research, I began to come across all of the VERY negative reviews on Ultherapy, and also noticed a pattern of facial fat loss and atrophy, and also facial distortion.
One of my eyes is “lazy” now, and the other is so wide, the brow is permanently arched up, something I have been unable to fix even with botox. I also have a wide surprised look with my right eye (the side withe overly arched brow and cyst), and it’s pulling my eyelid back so far, the whites of my eyes are visible so I have this “Shocked” look in one eye, and it’s not the same size as my left eye. It’s Bizarre.
I have three consults with Top Ocular Surgeons next week to get to the bottom of this and I may need surgery my new “trusted” doctor in Newport Beach, told me. Note this new “trusted” doctor has heard horror stories on Ultherapy, and is highly against it. This new doctor suspects it’s NERVE DAMAGE (from the burn/cist) from the first treatment resulting in my eye issue on my right side. I got my new drivers license last week – a straight forward shot – and I look crazy – as compared to the one issued 10 Years ago, where my eyes looked SO DIFFERENT and a lot Sexier.
Note, aside from Botox once a year, I’ve had NO OTHER laser procedures, or any other procedures at all, for that matter. And I am NOW CONVINCED after hours of research and review of my own photos, review of other’s experiences, and three doctor’s opinions, that ULTHERAPY caused these issues. It mad me look OLDER, made my face shrink, caused facial atrophy, changed the shape of my eyes, caused SCARRING, and burned part of my eyebrow off.
I have spent (in the past 2 months): $3800 to have my jawline re-built with filler, by a specialist, who is a NYC/BH maxillofacial plastic surgeon , who was able to inject under my jawbone. I then spent another $3400 at my trusted “new” doctor for PRP w/ Injections of a variety of fillers on my cheekbones, temples, forehead, + all around my chin. Today, I went back and “finished-up” rebuilding my face in the follow-up appointment for another $1,600….a little more around my eyes, and my mouth. First thing I did was take a couple selfies and compared them to the old shots. Looking MUCH more like “me” again. (sigh of relief…but no relief to my pocketbook….I’ll be paying through the end of the year to pay everything off). But I feel MUCH more like myself again and it makes me realize how MUCH of the I FINALLY am looking better again. Now, to fix my eyes, and off to the consults at the Ocular Surgeons next week.
This has been a nightmare and I HIGHLY ADVISE you think twice before getting ULTHERAPY. There are other lasers that are less invasive and damaging out there. Do your research! In fact, speaking of research, I read that Ulthera is now doing a study on the cell damage from Ultherapy….so they are aware of the issues!
In any event, 4 years later, I thought I would try Ultherapy again. Even though I had gotten the Cyst above my eye from the first time, I thought I’d find an experienced Facial Plastic Surgeon, who performed the treatment him/her self vs. having a nurse practitioner do it. I relentlessly searched for more info, interviewed doctors via Skype, asked questions about their training, their technique, the head sizes they use, etc. I settled on one doctor in LA, who I felt was the right guy. The interesting thing is that he told me he did not want to touch my round, high cheekbones, because he directly told me “it can cause volume loss”. His comment made me feel more comfortable in my selection of a doctor. “He knows what he’s doing”, I thought.
The first three months after Ultherapy, you think everything is fine. You feel good, your face is numb in certain areas, and you’re thinking “hey, this really works!” You’re even kind of glowy (probably from the intensity of the pain). In the first three months, you feel great because your skin is slighly puffy and swollen and then you start to see some tightening. However, cut to 9 months to a year later…..The perception usually changes, as I’ve read so many others have experienced, as well.
In Early-2015, I started seeing photos of myself and had a shocking reaction. “Why did my eyes look so different??”…I had this shocked look I had never seen before)….I was horrified. “What else was different?” I couldn’t put my finger on it, but my face / head seemed smaller and I looked OLDER – my face was so small I had lost a lot of my baby face look that helps you look young. I have great genes and people always assume I’m in my early 30’s so there was no way I’d aged at that pace in 4 years since first-getting Ultherapy. I’d spend frustrated / agonizing hours analyzing 2009 photos (Pre-Ultherapy), when I felt I looked great and was confident to take selfies, to now, when I couldn’t take a selfie that would turn out good. I could not figure out why my eyes looked SO different. I went to 3 different plastic surgeons for their own review, brought pictures of myself “before” and showed them “now” in person. Unfortunately, many had Ultherapy in their office and would never say anything bad about it, even if I suggested that might be the culprit. I was told I should get fat injections by 2 of the doctors.
Initially…..Never in a million years did I think the Ultherapy had something to do with it. After all, Ultherapy is supposed to BUILD new Collagen and thus, I’d expect, PLUMP the skin! There was no way this amazing investment I had made, could be NEGATIVE….esp after all of the photos out there with such amazing results. However, after hours of analysis and online research, I began to come across all of the VERY negative reviews on Ultherapy, and also noticed a pattern of facial fat loss and atrophy, and also facial distortion.
One of my eyes is “lazy” now, and the other is so wide, the brow is permanently arched up, something I have been unable to fix even with botox. I also have a wide surprised look with my right eye (the side withe overly arched brow and cyst), and it’s pulling my eyelid back so far, the whites of my eyes are visible so I have this “Shocked” look in one eye, and it’s not the same size as my left eye. It’s Bizarre.
I have three consults with Top Ocular Surgeons next week to get to the bottom of this and I may need surgery my new “trusted” doctor in Newport Beach, told me. Note this new “trusted” doctor has heard horror stories on Ultherapy, and is highly against it. This new doctor suspects it’s NERVE DAMAGE (from the burn/cist) from the first treatment resulting in my eye issue on my right side. I got my new drivers license last week – a straight forward shot – and I look crazy – as compared to the one issued 10 Years ago, where my eyes looked SO DIFFERENT and a lot Sexier.
Note, aside from Botox once a year, I’ve had NO OTHER laser procedures, or any other procedures at all, for that matter. And I am NOW CONVINCED after hours of research and review of my own photos, review of other’s experiences, and three doctor’s opinions, that ULTHERAPY caused these issues. It mad me look OLDER, made my face shrink, caused facial atrophy, changed the shape of my eyes, caused SCARRING, and burned part of my eyebrow off.
I have spent (in the past 2 months): $3800 to have my jawline re-built with filler, by a specialist, who is a NYC/BH maxillofacial plastic surgeon , who was able to inject under my jawbone. I then spent another $3400 at my trusted “new” doctor for PRP w/ Injections of a variety of fillers on my cheekbones, temples, forehead, + all around my chin. Today, I went back and “finished-up” rebuilding my face in the follow-up appointment for another $1,600….a little more around my eyes, and my mouth. First thing I did was take a couple selfies and compared them to the old shots. Looking MUCH more like “me” again. (sigh of relief…but no relief to my pocketbook….I’ll be paying through the end of the year to pay everything off). But I feel MUCH more like myself again and it makes me realize how MUCH of the I FINALLY am looking better again. Now, to fix my eyes, and off to the consults at the Ocular Surgeons next week.
This has been a nightmare and I HIGHLY ADVISE you think twice before getting ULTHERAPY. There are other lasers that are less invasive and damaging out there. Do your research! In fact, speaking of research, I read that Ulthera is now doing a study on the cell damage from Ultherapy….so they are aware of the issues!
Replies (33)
January 26, 2016
Instead of Ultherapy, get a serum with arginine. I also use a Lightstim for collagen building. It takes time and commitment, but, at 48, I have very few lines, and my skin is very tight. I use Serious Skincare from HSN. The Reverse lift line is awesome. I also use the Glycolic, Vitamin A, and Vitamin C lines. I rotate and layer the products.
It takes time to learn how to use the products, but it is s good investment in yourself. The products are not expensive, but many have more active ingredients in higher concentrations than other way more expensive products. Try it out. Perhaps some of this information can help you or someone else. Be patient and persistent. Your skin will improve.
Good luck.
It takes time to learn how to use the products, but it is s good investment in yourself. The products are not expensive, but many have more active ingredients in higher concentrations than other way more expensive products. Try it out. Perhaps some of this information can help you or someone else. Be patient and persistent. Your skin will improve.
Good luck.
February 5, 2016
I have light stim also and I love it and use it everyday. I bought the D.P.L. panels too, but was disappointed and was losing facial volumne so I only use light stim now, as it keeps my skin plump and Dewey. The D.P.l. dried out my skin too. I thought it would be better as hollywood beauty secrets says its the holy frail of led lights. Boy that wasn't th case for me at all and I gave it about four or five months until I looked way worse and went back to light stim. I haven't tried that skin care line. I was using o bagi but its so expensive I might have to switch.
February 5, 2016
I have light stim also and I love it and use it everyday. I bought the D.P.L. panels too, but was disappointed and was losing facial volumne so I only use light stim now, as it keeps my skin plump and Dewey. The D.P.l. dried out my skin too. I thought it would be better as hollywood beauty secrets says its the holy frail of led lights. Boy that wasn't th case for me at all and I gave it about four or five months until I looked way worse and went back to light stim. I haven't tried that skin care line. I was using o bagi but its so expensive I might have to switch.
February 5, 2016
I have light stim also and I love it and use it everyday. I bought the D.P.L. panels too, but was disappointed and was losing facial volumne so I only use light stim now, as it keeps my skin plump and Dewey. The D.P.l. dried out my skin too. I thought it would be better as hollywood beauty secrets says its the holy frail of led lights. Boy that wasn't th case for me at all and I gave it about four or five months until I looked way worse and went back to light stim. I haven't tried that skin care line. I was using o bagi but its so expensive I might have to switch.
February 5, 2016
I have light stim also and I love it and use it everyday. I bought the D.P.L. panels too, but was disappointed and was losing facial volumne so I only use light stim now, as it keeps my skin plump and Dewey. The D.P.l. dried out my skin too. I thought it would be better as hollywood beauty secrets says its the holy frail of led lights. Boy that wasn't th case for me at all and I gave it about four or five months until I looked way worse and went back to light stim. I haven't tried that skin care line. I was using o bagi but its so expensive I might have to switch.
February 6, 2016
Hi,
Thanks for your response. My friends are always telling me that my skin looks amazing. (I don't do botox or fillers. At least not yet. I prefer a more natural approach.)
Anyway, I think some of it is genetic; Some of it is the products and the lightstim.
Try out the products. I think they are the "bomb"
I can get everything I need with SS Xbox and stay on budget. I love it !!!
Thanks for your response. My friends are always telling me that my skin looks amazing. (I don't do botox or fillers. At least not yet. I prefer a more natural approach.)
Anyway, I think some of it is genetic; Some of it is the products and the lightstim.
Try out the products. I think they are the "bomb"
I can get everything I need with SS Xbox and stay on budget. I love it !!!
June 8, 2016
I have a lightstim as well and it's made a big difference for me. I was starting to get lines and bags under my eyes and it really helped get rid of these issues. I also had some mesothetspy on my double chin and it helped with tightening the skin and thickening the skin that was getting so thin on my neck. I still do some fillers and peels but rely alot on my lightstim.
June 16, 2016
Dear Meganice,
I don't know how any red light can be that much different than any other one. Maybe more wattage or more powerful?? But, I don't understand how a product designed to build collagen can cause loss of facial volume? That sounds strange. I have not had any problems with the lightstim product as far as adverse reactions. I use it for my knee pain, too. It's warm and feels good anyway. Sometimes I even fall asleep while holding the lightstim on my face. I've done that a couple of times. The warmth of it makes me feel relaxed. lol
Then, I wake up thinking, "Hey, what's that red light I see (under my covers)?" Takes a minute to realize its the lightstim, and that I have not actually been abducted by aliens. lol
I don't know how any red light can be that much different than any other one. Maybe more wattage or more powerful?? But, I don't understand how a product designed to build collagen can cause loss of facial volume? That sounds strange. I have not had any problems with the lightstim product as far as adverse reactions. I use it for my knee pain, too. It's warm and feels good anyway. Sometimes I even fall asleep while holding the lightstim on my face. I've done that a couple of times. The warmth of it makes me feel relaxed. lol
Then, I wake up thinking, "Hey, what's that red light I see (under my covers)?" Takes a minute to realize its the lightstim, and that I have not actually been abducted by aliens. lol
June 22, 2016
Maybe it was paranoia but I felt the dpl panels didn't work as well for plumoing the skin up. I found out they didn't have the amber lights. The new one does now, so it must be an important feature. I'm the light stim web site they mention the amber lights are what generates collagen growth. I get confused I admit trying to figure what's the best red light for best results. When I get my new light and use it I'll let you guys know if it's better than light stim.
February 5, 2016
Your story sounds EXACTLY like mine. This machine is so evil and should be taken off the market. I've also spent thousands of dollars trying to rebuild my face. Just had two cc's of sculptra to rebuild my jaw and I'm going to need another two at least. That's on top of the 3 cc's of voluma and 2 vials of sculptra, and hundreds of dollars of Botox to help my eyes from drooling because there is remaining fat to support my eyes. Don't even get me started on my eyes! They are so weird and unrecognizable. I look and feel like an alien. This whole nightmare has been beyond depressing! If you don't mind me asking, who did you see in NY to help rebuild your face? I need under eye filler next, and some sort of filler around the top lid. I was told I need a brow lift, but going to try repairing it with filler first before surgery. I HATE Ultherapy too!
February 5, 2016
To clarify, (because I clearly did not proof read before posting my last message) I've had: 3 cc's of voluma, 2 vials of sculptra mid face, 2 cc's of radiesse for jaw, and a ton of Botox. I still look awful, but it's getting better. Such a disaster! Saving for eye filler next and will need filler around my mouth. That means 2 more cc's of filler.
April 24, 2016
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June 16, 2016
Dear Kevans 19,
It looks like you've figured it out !! They are counting on people not being nearly as smart as you are.
Ultherapy is a new thing, and I think in time we will see exactly what the quirks are with it. I try not to rush out and get anything right away. It's kind of like you never want to buy a car the first year it comes out. It takes a couple of years to work out all the kinks.
It looks like you've figured it out !! They are counting on people not being nearly as smart as you are.
Ultherapy is a new thing, and I think in time we will see exactly what the quirks are with it. I try not to rush out and get anything right away. It's kind of like you never want to buy a car the first year it comes out. It takes a couple of years to work out all the kinks.
June 8, 2016
Dear Meganice,
Hi. Thanks for your response.
I do not know what the D.P.I. panels are. Never heard of it.
Jennifer Stallone (Sylvester Stallone's wife) is the creator of SSC. Her skin is Amazing. I think she just uses mostly natural approach. (Of course, you never can tell with those "Hollywood" women !!!
Anyway, the last year or so, I have noticed some brown hyperpigmentagion on the sides of my face. I hate it. If I stop the stim, it gets worse.
I have been wanting to try the Vi peel, but I am worried that it might be too strong for me. Any suggestions?
Which peels have you tried??
Also, I would not mind trying fillers, but only the ones that are dissolvable with hyaluronase. I would never do Sculptra or Bellafill. There is no way to dissolve those of you don't like it.
But, if I ever did try fillers, I want to get just a tiny bit first.
Same with botox. I think I have a pretty strong and possibly overactive immune response. I seem to have a lot of allergies to certain meds.
At any rate please let me know which peels you've done. I could just start off with something like salicylic. Or even pumpkin or grapefruit.
Thanks!!!!
Hi. Thanks for your response.
I do not know what the D.P.I. panels are. Never heard of it.
Jennifer Stallone (Sylvester Stallone's wife) is the creator of SSC. Her skin is Amazing. I think she just uses mostly natural approach. (Of course, you never can tell with those "Hollywood" women !!!
Anyway, the last year or so, I have noticed some brown hyperpigmentagion on the sides of my face. I hate it. If I stop the stim, it gets worse.
I have been wanting to try the Vi peel, but I am worried that it might be too strong for me. Any suggestions?
Which peels have you tried??
Also, I would not mind trying fillers, but only the ones that are dissolvable with hyaluronase. I would never do Sculptra or Bellafill. There is no way to dissolve those of you don't like it.
But, if I ever did try fillers, I want to get just a tiny bit first.
Same with botox. I think I have a pretty strong and possibly overactive immune response. I seem to have a lot of allergies to certain meds.
At any rate please let me know which peels you've done. I could just start off with something like salicylic. Or even pumpkin or grapefruit.
Thanks!!!!
June 15, 2016
The dpl panels are red and infared lights in two panels. Hollywood beauty secrets sells it. They have a new one out that's supposed to be better and had amber lights too. I'm going to buy it next month. The peels I've done are obagi radiance peels. If you've got decent skin allready I would stay away from their blue peel. It's too unpredictable and drastic from what I've heard, and also very expensive. My neighbor ordered a cream for me that makes her good skin look uncrediable and she's alot older than me. I'm excited to try it. It's called vine vita merlot day cream. Her skin looks peaches and cream and her neck has no crinkely skin. I really need it for my neck! Take care!
June 15, 2016
Juvederm is the filler I've used. I've done my lips and chin and nasal folds and eleven between my brows. The dpl didn't work good for me as it doesn't have amber lights like light stim does. I heard that have a new one with it now. I want the new one wish I hadn't bought the other one.
June 16, 2016
Dear Meganice,
I will have to look up what the "panels" are for. I don't see how it's any different from the light on the lightstim, unless it just covers more area at one time.
As far as the blue peel. Nada. I read about that one. No for Vi peel, too. Right now, just doing the PTR FirmX , SSC pumpkin scrub, various other masks, and an SSC glycolic peel.
I just rotate depending on how my skin looks and feels. I do think that you can most likely get better results with a spa peel because they can go deeper into the skin layers, but now that it is summer, it's not a very good time to be peeling. I have to sit out in the sun at bmx with my daughter a lot, so I can't really "avoid" the sun at this time of the year.
I can only wear sunscreen and a hat. I suppose I could also wear a Hijab or a Burqah, but it looks awfully hot. :))
I will have to look up what the "panels" are for. I don't see how it's any different from the light on the lightstim, unless it just covers more area at one time.
As far as the blue peel. Nada. I read about that one. No for Vi peel, too. Right now, just doing the PTR FirmX , SSC pumpkin scrub, various other masks, and an SSC glycolic peel.
I just rotate depending on how my skin looks and feels. I do think that you can most likely get better results with a spa peel because they can go deeper into the skin layers, but now that it is summer, it's not a very good time to be peeling. I have to sit out in the sun at bmx with my daughter a lot, so I can't really "avoid" the sun at this time of the year.
I can only wear sunscreen and a hat. I suppose I could also wear a Hijab or a Burqah, but it looks awfully hot. :))
June 16, 2016
Dear Meganice,
The cream sounds awesome. It probably has resveratrol in it from the name. From the grapes used to make the red wine Merlot. I would drink red wine, because in moderation, it is good for you, but it gives me a headache. So, no red wine for me. Let me know how the cream works out.
I might be interested.
The cream sounds awesome. It probably has resveratrol in it from the name. From the grapes used to make the red wine Merlot. I would drink red wine, because in moderation, it is good for you, but it gives me a headache. So, no red wine for me. Let me know how the cream works out.
I might be interested.
June 22, 2016
It does have resveratrol. I should get it this week and I'll let you know. It's pricey but lasts a long time so it's not too costlt and her skin looks so smooth and taut and beautiful color. It's got pretty good reviews online on amazon, and people say it works right away. It sure did on her. Theyre sending me a free body cream too. I like wine TOO much unfortunatly, so I've had to give it up lately.
June 22, 2016
Dear Meganice:
Let me know if the cream works....
Every now & then I try a new one, but then go back to my SSC.
There is no possible way to like wine too much. lol
No, I think if you feel that you need to cut back, then it's a good decision for you.
Just don't ever drink and drive.......Please.
I feel obligated to say that. I once worked at a place where an employee died after drinking and driving. We knew she had a drinking problem, but none of us spoke up. I was the last person at work to see her alive. I carry that guilt.
( not that you have a problem.....I just always say that now.....Please forgive.)
Anyway, good luck with that cream!! I would love to hear your results!!#
Let me know if the cream works....
Every now & then I try a new one, but then go back to my SSC.
There is no possible way to like wine too much. lol
No, I think if you feel that you need to cut back, then it's a good decision for you.
Just don't ever drink and drive.......Please.
I feel obligated to say that. I once worked at a place where an employee died after drinking and driving. We knew she had a drinking problem, but none of us spoke up. I was the last person at work to see her alive. I carry that guilt.
( not that you have a problem.....I just always say that now.....Please forgive.)
Anyway, good luck with that cream!! I would love to hear your results!!#
July 1, 2016
I got that cream and I do like it alot. That's too bad about the co worker who drank and drove. Wine has alot of calories and I felt it was impeding my fitness progress. The DPL covers more space and would be easier to use on your body, I think it maybe is stronger too. I definatly have to have amber lights like light stim has. The new panels have them now and are now connected so it's like opening a book and laying it on you. The older design were separated and attached by a cord and you had to hold each panel. The new machine people say in reviews that has used the older one, say the new machine gives better results too and easier to use. I really want to get it.
July 1, 2016
Dear Meganice,
Thank you for your kind words about my co-worker who died. She was 35 at the time, so young. I think about her a lot, as I do a lot of the cancer patients I've lost. We treat them so long; they are like our family. Their experiences become mine. It is hard to separate yourself. To stay emotionally detached. I got better at it. Them you start "living in your head". Your body just goes numb. It hurts to feel, so you just don't. Sorry for that. Sometimes I just get lost in my thoughts....
What, exactly, is the name of the new machine you are using, and is it for the whole body or just your face?
Thank you for your kind words about my co-worker who died. She was 35 at the time, so young. I think about her a lot, as I do a lot of the cancer patients I've lost. We treat them so long; they are like our family. Their experiences become mine. It is hard to separate yourself. To stay emotionally detached. I got better at it. Them you start "living in your head". Your body just goes numb. It hurts to feel, so you just don't. Sorry for that. Sometimes I just get lost in my thoughts....
What, exactly, is the name of the new machine you are using, and is it for the whole body or just your face?
July 2, 2016
Oh she was only 35. How sad! Drinking can get away from us, when you're sad it momentarily masks pain and lifts loneliness. The new machine I haven't got get but I think it's called DPL two. It's the newer version of the DPL which stands for deep penetrating lamp I think. You can find it on Hollywood beauty secrets we site. They have the best prices and there are reviews in Amazon as well. The machine is used on the face chest and hands but you could use it anywhere on your body. It's about the size of a book and you open it and lay it on your skin. It covers a greater area than the red light units that are the size of a flash light head.
July 8, 2016
Dear Meganice,
I wrote you a response yesyerday, but it didn't post. At least, I don't see it here.
I said thanks for the info on the DPL stim machine.
Yes, my co-worker was very young, and it was sad. None of us, as professionals, did her a favor by keeping our mouths closed about her drinking problem. We failed her. As friends, co-workers, and professionals.
As far as the drinking goes, I can only drink wine, no hard stuff. It bothers my stomach. Even though I am alone a lot since my husband travels, I don't feel lonely (I am always busy...And I like my own company). Lol
I just like the taste of wine, and it helps me relax, and I sleep better. But, I can only do one glass.
More than that, and I begin to numb out. To me, that crosses over into using it to forget about life. Well, nothing wrong with that every once in a while, but that is where dependence begins.....So, I do agree that people can start to slip from casual drinking to habitual.
I think the reasons we do it are almost more important than the amount. And I think people know when they've crossed over......So, your cutting back is a personal decision, and only you can know how much is OK for you. But, congratulations on taking a step towards being responsible about it. I pray that everything will work out for you, and that you will be happy in your life.
Good luck. Take care.
I will be watching for your posts!!!
I wrote you a response yesyerday, but it didn't post. At least, I don't see it here.
I said thanks for the info on the DPL stim machine.
Yes, my co-worker was very young, and it was sad. None of us, as professionals, did her a favor by keeping our mouths closed about her drinking problem. We failed her. As friends, co-workers, and professionals.
As far as the drinking goes, I can only drink wine, no hard stuff. It bothers my stomach. Even though I am alone a lot since my husband travels, I don't feel lonely (I am always busy...And I like my own company). Lol
I just like the taste of wine, and it helps me relax, and I sleep better. But, I can only do one glass.
More than that, and I begin to numb out. To me, that crosses over into using it to forget about life. Well, nothing wrong with that every once in a while, but that is where dependence begins.....So, I do agree that people can start to slip from casual drinking to habitual.
I think the reasons we do it are almost more important than the amount. And I think people know when they've crossed over......So, your cutting back is a personal decision, and only you can know how much is OK for you. But, congratulations on taking a step towards being responsible about it. I pray that everything will work out for you, and that you will be happy in your life.
Good luck. Take care.
I will be watching for your posts!!!
July 8, 2016
It's hard to tell someone that they're drinking too much. I'm sure I've failed on that one too, by not wanting to be critical and hurt their feelings. When I drank too much wine, I really felt I had no room to talk either. Wine was my drink, and I feel it's bad for me. I've had a margarita on two 'occasions about a month after zero drinking, and it was fine. I didn't feel an urge to keep on drinking. It is easy to fall into the trap of medicating to forget. Ive got stuff Id like to forget, but I feel so much better now, its ok to remember now. Its better for my marriage as well. Anyway, I love stuff like red light therapy that you can do yourself at home to look alot younger but still natural. I've got no problem with spreading the word. Im turning inti a do it yourself type as much as possible , and I plan on doing my own peels and tinting my own lashes. I allready tint my own eyebrows as they're too blonde.
July 8, 2016
Dearest Meganice,
You are So right. It IS hard to tell someone that they are drinking too much, but the alternative is to watch what happens when you don't. And maybe she wouldn't have listened anyway, but then at least we could have been somehat comforted by the fact that we tried. Our failure was just that: We didn't even try.....
You can only do so much. The rest is up to the other person.
I am glad that you are taking care of yourself and dealing with your issues instead of drinking to forget. That takes courage, and you have it...
Kudos.
If you find you need more help, then you might try seeing a counselor. Talking helps; especially talking to someone in complete confidence, who is basically non-judgmental. ( The good ones are.) Sometimes you don't realize something is true until you say it out loud to someone else. It can be startling to you, even.
Like the truth just woke up and took a deep breath. And when you let it out, you are FREE from holding it all in. That is my experience with therapy, for what it' s worth. You aren't gonna find that at the bottom of a wine bottle.....(No that wasn't a judgment. It was a commercial in favor of therapy over alcohol.)
I am exactly like you are with believing in the more natural approach to beauty ; I am not against fillers and botox, it just isn't my first choice.
I also want to learn how to do peels. I know that there are guides you can read. Just be sure to start out with something more mild and go from there. You can burn your skin. As far as tinting your own lashes goes: Please be very careful. I am sure you know that certain dues have peroxide and ammonia in them which can cause blindness. If they make a special dye for this, then you would be wise to use that.
I do my own eyebrows with non-permanent hair dye. (No ammonia/peroxide)
I just use mascara on my eyelashes. It comes out pretty good. I don't see how anybody wears false lashes. My eyelids are way too sensitive for that. Plus it looks like a PIA to apply. I would never even bother trying it.
Let me know how your latest beauty adventures are going. Now that I am back from vacation, I will try to spend some time reading about that machine!!
It is fun talking to you; Keep writing to me!!!!
XOXO
Txmom
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You are So right. It IS hard to tell someone that they are drinking too much, but the alternative is to watch what happens when you don't. And maybe she wouldn't have listened anyway, but then at least we could have been somehat comforted by the fact that we tried. Our failure was just that: We didn't even try.....
You can only do so much. The rest is up to the other person.
I am glad that you are taking care of yourself and dealing with your issues instead of drinking to forget. That takes courage, and you have it...
Kudos.
If you find you need more help, then you might try seeing a counselor. Talking helps; especially talking to someone in complete confidence, who is basically non-judgmental. ( The good ones are.) Sometimes you don't realize something is true until you say it out loud to someone else. It can be startling to you, even.
Like the truth just woke up and took a deep breath. And when you let it out, you are FREE from holding it all in. That is my experience with therapy, for what it' s worth. You aren't gonna find that at the bottom of a wine bottle.....(No that wasn't a judgment. It was a commercial in favor of therapy over alcohol.)
I am exactly like you are with believing in the more natural approach to beauty ; I am not against fillers and botox, it just isn't my first choice.
I also want to learn how to do peels. I know that there are guides you can read. Just be sure to start out with something more mild and go from there. You can burn your skin. As far as tinting your own lashes goes: Please be very careful. I am sure you know that certain dues have peroxide and ammonia in them which can cause blindness. If they make a special dye for this, then you would be wise to use that.
I do my own eyebrows with non-permanent hair dye. (No ammonia/peroxide)
I just use mascara on my eyelashes. It comes out pretty good. I don't see how anybody wears false lashes. My eyelids are way too sensitive for that. Plus it looks like a PIA to apply. I would never even bother trying it.
Let me know how your latest beauty adventures are going. Now that I am back from vacation, I will try to spend some time reading about that machine!!
It is fun talking to you; Keep writing to me!!!!
XOXO
Txmom
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June 11, 2016
Try the FirmX facial peel by Peter Thomas Roth. ( Sephora). Rub it in circular motion. You will feel the dead skin on your face just ball up. It's more of a deep exfoliation. Love it. I do this then follow with serums then light stim before bed. Wake up to amazing skin every time !!!
Good luck !!!
Good luck !!!
UPDATED FROM dallasgirl32
2 years post
This is how I felt the first night I glanced at myself and thought "who is that girl in the mirror??"....(but did not realize at
I remember after the second time I had ultherapy. One night I was washing my face, and I casually glanced in the mirror. I thought to myself "who was THAT?" It did not even look like me! I could not put my finger on it. Of course, my first thought was that I was simply, well, AGING...I mean, I am 42, but I am dating someone who's in their early 30's and have good genetics, and I was wondering who that person was. It did NOT happen overnight. It was a slow progression. It's like when you are gaining weight and suddenly your clothes don't fit, and you're like "uh-oh...I better cut down on the carbs!" I remember that night like it was yesterday....I remember thinking "wow....I'm looking older"....to me, I looked like a hint of my grandmother, who's character and facial features already always reminded me of myself. I felt....well....."old". It was the first time, EVER, I felt like my face looked bony. I looked lithe. I have a small face and thin skin to begin with....so this was a big shock to see hollowed eyes, and a bony jaw. It was then, that I decided to start doing research....it took me MONTHS to figure out that what I thought was the "holy grail" to facial treatments....was actually my arch nemesis. I was watching Real Housewives of OC the other night and I live in OC, and have connections to many of the girls on the show....and when I saw they were doing ultherapy on the show....I winced. I thought to myself "wow....if they only knew!!!!" :( #sad #tragic #myfacewillneverbethesame
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July 1, 2016
Oh I noticed the scene too, on the house wives show. I thought oh no, theyre giving ultherapy a plug, probably in exchange for a free treatment, and it's going to encourage viewers to get it done. The people who ended up with problems, say that other people just don't understand how it feels to watch your face change. I think at first I may have not understood because I didn't think the treatment could go so wrong, but I get it now. I don't think ANYONE should get ultherapy. From what I've heard from someone I know that works where they do it, it only works as touted on a select few, and there's NO WAY to tell who that might be. Everyone else is disappointed and feel it was big money wasted. They could have done so many things to enhance their beauty instead. Anyway, I'm so glad you're finding good doctors and treatments to give you your face back, and spreading that info, so others can do that as well. I would love to see ladies even improve after being harmed by ultherapy. Would be interesting to see how Shannon and Tamra respond to their ultherapy treatment, and they both appear to have alit of fillers allready.
July 3, 2016
Same here. I was upset seeing them hop up on that table for what they think is a non-invasive procedure.
I can only imagine the horror that you and countless other women have experienced realizing what ultherapy had done to you.
I'm soooo glad to read that you are back to normal. :) You've certainly been through the ringer but hopefully your post will be an inspiration to the others that feel so hopeless right now. ((Hugs))
I can only imagine the horror that you and countless other women have experienced realizing what ultherapy had done to you.
I'm soooo glad to read that you are back to normal. :) You've certainly been through the ringer but hopefully your post will be an inspiration to the others that feel so hopeless right now. ((Hugs))
July 19, 2017
Are there any pics available so we can see the changes in your face from the first and second treatments?
October 12, 2019
The exact same thing happened to me except with one Ultherapy. It ruined my face, now I'm trying to find a doctor/s out there somewhere who can help rebuild my face.
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