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don't do it!!!! - Edmonds, WA
UPDATED FROM foreveryounglibra
Six months post Botox. It's VERY SLOWLY wearing...
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Six months post Botox. It's VERY SLOWLY wearing off, but my left eyelid is still hooded, sagging and drooping (with extra folds), which it NEVER WAS BEFORE THE BOTOX injections. My "elevens" are back, so I assume most of the Botox is gone. I fear I am stuck with this eyelid now, as well as the horrible long vertical wrinkles that extend down through both eyebrows every morning (also never had those before) unless I use "Frownies" at night. Never thought I'd have to go to bed with brown paper stuck all over my face, and if they aren't in the exact right spot, you get other creases because of that. I am still praying for my old face back. It was better than this one. In the meantime, I took advantage of a coupon for Ultherapy (see my other nightmare posts on that) in hopes it would help. It was expensive, EXTREMELY PAINFUL, I was dreadfully ill afterward, my forehead and scalp are still very sore and tender, and I would never have done it if not for the botched botox.
I'm sooooo weary of all of this.
I'm sooooo weary of all of this.
UPDATED FROM foreveryounglibra
Update: 13 Weeks (about 3 months) post bad botox...
Update: 13 Weeks (about 3 months) post bad botox injections in forehead. It supposedly lasts 3-9 months.
I continue using my home version Galvanic Spa (by Nuskin) three times a week. It helps lift my eyelids on the days that I use it.
Some of the botox is starting to wear off...in particular, the tiny injections that she put over the outsides of my eyebrows after she over-injected the middle of my forehead and "Spocked me" (her words).
The supposedly "conservative amount" that she put between my eyebrows in the frown lines (which turned out to be waaaaay too much) is very slowly lessening, and I have a tiny bit more movement in my forehead now, and my eyelids aren't quite as droopy. BUT, because the middle part of my forehead still doesn't move, while the outsides do, and because I'm a side sleeper, I have very deep vertical creases that run down through the middle of my eyebrows every morning. Because this has been happening for three months now, the creases are becoming permanent and don't relax or go completely away during the day. I've tried taping these areas before bed, but my forehead just wrinkles up elsewhere and looks bizarre.
I also still have the other eyelid wrinkles that I did NOT have before which start at the inner eye and "splay" across the eyelids. These are because there is still a lot of botox in the lower middle of my forehead and between my eyes and those areas now sag, which means I can't hold my eyes open, so the extra folds of skin bunch up.
My forehead is STILL "numb" and leaden (feels heavy, like it's hanging down, which it IS). I've forgotten what my "old" eyes used to look like (bright and open). They were a great canvas for dramatic eye makeup. I haven't been able to wear hardly any since this nightmare began. All I can do is some liner at the base of the lashes and mascara. My droopy eyes have also been more susceptible to allergy irritation.
My class reunion is coming up, and the prom queen won't be going. I look at least ten years older than I did last year because of what this doctor did to me. HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT, AND STILL WANT TO WARN EVERYONE ABOUT IT. THERE'S NO WAY RISKING THIS DISFIGUREMENT AND PRE-MATURE AGING OF YOUR EYES IS WORTH 'SOFTENING' A FEW WRINKLES.
I continue using my home version Galvanic Spa (by Nuskin) three times a week. It helps lift my eyelids on the days that I use it.
Some of the botox is starting to wear off...in particular, the tiny injections that she put over the outsides of my eyebrows after she over-injected the middle of my forehead and "Spocked me" (her words).
The supposedly "conservative amount" that she put between my eyebrows in the frown lines (which turned out to be waaaaay too much) is very slowly lessening, and I have a tiny bit more movement in my forehead now, and my eyelids aren't quite as droopy. BUT, because the middle part of my forehead still doesn't move, while the outsides do, and because I'm a side sleeper, I have very deep vertical creases that run down through the middle of my eyebrows every morning. Because this has been happening for three months now, the creases are becoming permanent and don't relax or go completely away during the day. I've tried taping these areas before bed, but my forehead just wrinkles up elsewhere and looks bizarre.
I also still have the other eyelid wrinkles that I did NOT have before which start at the inner eye and "splay" across the eyelids. These are because there is still a lot of botox in the lower middle of my forehead and between my eyes and those areas now sag, which means I can't hold my eyes open, so the extra folds of skin bunch up.
My forehead is STILL "numb" and leaden (feels heavy, like it's hanging down, which it IS). I've forgotten what my "old" eyes used to look like (bright and open). They were a great canvas for dramatic eye makeup. I haven't been able to wear hardly any since this nightmare began. All I can do is some liner at the base of the lashes and mascara. My droopy eyes have also been more susceptible to allergy irritation.
My class reunion is coming up, and the prom queen won't be going. I look at least ten years older than I did last year because of what this doctor did to me. HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT, AND STILL WANT TO WARN EVERYONE ABOUT IT. THERE'S NO WAY RISKING THIS DISFIGUREMENT AND PRE-MATURE AGING OF YOUR EYES IS WORTH 'SOFTENING' A FEW WRINKLES.
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MP
June 16, 2012
It makes me so sad to hear you aren't going to go to your reunion because of this. :( I understand though. I'm glad to hear it is wearing off. My guess is the lines you are seeing form will disappear once you have full movement back, but I'll be really interested to hear what actually happens with that.
Sending you a hug!
F
June 17, 2012
Thanks so much, as always, for the compassion, comfort and encouragement, Megan, while we rant on and on! :D You are certainly the person for this job!
Anne88's report is painful to read, but the truth often is, and I am thankful, again for this forum in the hopes that many, many women will read our "real life stories" and be spared the same misery.
I take full responsibility for not informing myself of the possible repercussions before I impulsively agreed to the injections. We cannot expect practitioners to warn us (though they SHOULD). She didn't inject me against my will, and I'm fairly certain that I waived all rights when I signed all of those pages of paperwork. However, I DO think the stuff should be banned for "casual" cosmetic use, and it should be against the law for practitioners NOT to warn patients of every possible side-effect. Mine are cosmetic, but it's awful to read where people experienced panic attacks and other negative psychological effects also !
I know it sounds shallow that I would skip my reunion over this, but I just don't want people looking at me and it being obvious that I've "had something done." I've always looked great "for my age," and never wanted, nor ever will want anything that changes my appearance the way this has...for the WORSE. My eyelids have lost all elasticity now, and have double folds, and my eyes remain much smaller (squinty and often bloodshot) than they were before.
The only reason I look in the mirror is to gauge if there is any improvement, but "recovery" is so slow that it's almost imperceptible, and if it's an allergy-kind-of-a-day, then my eyes are still fully hooded. I hope and pray that it wears off sooner than later (ten months? OMG).
I would love to believe that my 63-year-old skin will revive and the deep new wrinkles will disappear, but I don't think so (maybe the Galvanic Spa will save me?). My reasoning is that when they first showed up (I'm talking mainly about the long deep, vertical wrinkles that run through my eyebrows), it was in the mornings (because of sleeping on my side and my forehead not moving in the middle), and by afternoon they would relax and be gone. Now, after three months of creasing, they are still there by nighttime. Maybe you're right. Maybe when the Botox completely wears off, and (if) the creasing stops during the night, they'll go away.
I do want to mention that you can use micro pore tape (and anne recommended "Frownies") in little strips on places to help keep wrinkles from deepening at night. But the problem is that when I've tried it, my forehead just puffed up scrunched in other places which looks really weird, too. Sigh.
I honestly think that I'm going to need an eye lift after this. Certainly nothing I'd ever planned on, and knowing, now, how much can go wrong, it terrifies me.
Still loving life...I'm not completely consumed by vanity! :D
Anne88's report is painful to read, but the truth often is, and I am thankful, again for this forum in the hopes that many, many women will read our "real life stories" and be spared the same misery.
I take full responsibility for not informing myself of the possible repercussions before I impulsively agreed to the injections. We cannot expect practitioners to warn us (though they SHOULD). She didn't inject me against my will, and I'm fairly certain that I waived all rights when I signed all of those pages of paperwork. However, I DO think the stuff should be banned for "casual" cosmetic use, and it should be against the law for practitioners NOT to warn patients of every possible side-effect. Mine are cosmetic, but it's awful to read where people experienced panic attacks and other negative psychological effects also !
I know it sounds shallow that I would skip my reunion over this, but I just don't want people looking at me and it being obvious that I've "had something done." I've always looked great "for my age," and never wanted, nor ever will want anything that changes my appearance the way this has...for the WORSE. My eyelids have lost all elasticity now, and have double folds, and my eyes remain much smaller (squinty and often bloodshot) than they were before.
The only reason I look in the mirror is to gauge if there is any improvement, but "recovery" is so slow that it's almost imperceptible, and if it's an allergy-kind-of-a-day, then my eyes are still fully hooded. I hope and pray that it wears off sooner than later (ten months? OMG).
I would love to believe that my 63-year-old skin will revive and the deep new wrinkles will disappear, but I don't think so (maybe the Galvanic Spa will save me?). My reasoning is that when they first showed up (I'm talking mainly about the long deep, vertical wrinkles that run through my eyebrows), it was in the mornings (because of sleeping on my side and my forehead not moving in the middle), and by afternoon they would relax and be gone. Now, after three months of creasing, they are still there by nighttime. Maybe you're right. Maybe when the Botox completely wears off, and (if) the creasing stops during the night, they'll go away.
I do want to mention that you can use micro pore tape (and anne recommended "Frownies") in little strips on places to help keep wrinkles from deepening at night. But the problem is that when I've tried it, my forehead just puffed up scrunched in other places which looks really weird, too. Sigh.
I honestly think that I'm going to need an eye lift after this. Certainly nothing I'd ever planned on, and knowing, now, how much can go wrong, it terrifies me.
Still loving life...I'm not completely consumed by vanity! :D
MP
June 18, 2012
I'm so glad to hear you are still loving life!! :)
Anne88 certainly has a valid point that it seems people don't fully understand the potential risks when they decide to try something like Botox, and you certainly are not alone in rushing through the papers and not fully reading it all.
As you both probably know that is one of the main reason RealSelf exists, to try to help people approach medi-beauty decisions as safe as possible, though of course they will never be without risk. Anyways, we pulled some data recently to see if going to a board certified doctor increased satisfaction, compared with the overall satisfaction rate of community members who had the procedure done. Here is a blog post about it. The differences seen in the injectables is pretty interesting, I thought.
MP
June 19, 2012
I definitely hear what you are saying about people needing to know about the risks. When I had my injections done (in 2 different offices) I did have to give a medical history report, and I did have to sign off on a paper that discussed the risks. Obviously each office is responsible for setting & following protocol, so I can't speak to what different offices do.
As for the doctors intentions, while I'm sure there are some doctors who are money-grubbers, I think they are few & far between the doctors who truly care about their patients and do the best they can by them.
I'm glad you are on here sharing this information so people can be made even more aware of stories like yours.
F
June 19, 2012
Thanks anne88...I'm ordering the frownies NOW.
Sending blessings...just remember to B-R-E-A-T-H-E...I remind myself of that a lot :)
Sending blessings...just remember to B-R-E-A-T-H-E...I remind myself of that a lot :)
F
June 19, 2012
I'm praying for you. Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
I've been to hell and back a few times in my life, too.
The mantra that got me through (along with holding Jesus' hand) was:
THIS, TOO, SHALL PASS. It pretty much always applies.
And, one more quote (I'm sure you already know it!) "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
If you are being tormented daily, I would say you must be a major threat to the devil. He doesn't bother the people who cooperate with him.
I know you're tired, but you're still fighting and the world needs spunky chicks.
Sending love, and more encouragements should you need them, anytime!
I've been to hell and back a few times in my life, too.
The mantra that got me through (along with holding Jesus' hand) was:
THIS, TOO, SHALL PASS. It pretty much always applies.
And, one more quote (I'm sure you already know it!) "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
If you are being tormented daily, I would say you must be a major threat to the devil. He doesn't bother the people who cooperate with him.
I know you're tired, but you're still fighting and the world needs spunky chicks.
Sending love, and more encouragements should you need them, anytime!
UPDATED FROM foreveryounglibra
2 Months Post Injections Update Botox still...
2 Months Post Injections Update
Botox still very obvious in my forehead, which feels like it has permanent Novocaine. It makes me nauseous to focus on it, so I try very hard not to think about it. The tiny amount she injected higher on my forehead over the outer ends of my eyebrows to correct the "Spock" effect created by the original injections over my nose in the frown lines, is wearing off faster than the original injections between my eyes, so when I raise my eyebrows (which I can do a tiny bit now), there are deep wrinkles and puckering over my outer eyebrows that weren't there before. My eyelids are still hooded and droopy and have an extra fold now that I didn't have before.
At my age (63, though I used to look 50), I don't know if the skin will recover. Because my eyebrows have now "fallen," I also have extra new crows' feet type wrinkles on the insides of my upper eyelids (next to my nose) which I did not have before. Don't know if they will go away after this or not, either. As the middle third of my forehead is frozen, and the outside two thirds not, when I wake up every morning I now have deep prominent vertical lines that extend from the middle of my forehead, down through my eyebrows and onto the tops of the eyelids on both sides. Obviously, that happens because I'm a side-sleeper. Never had even a hint of these lines before. VERY aging.
I continue to use my Galvanic Spa (a home-version from NuSkin) almost daily, and it makes a huge difference. My eyelids are completely droopy before a treatment and are significantly lifted afterward. Still nothing close to my normal appearance. I used to love making up my eyes with shadows, liner, etc..for the big, smoky effect. All I can do now is put on dark liner and mascara in hopes of looking less old and tired. I can hardly wait for this poison to completely go away, and pray that I will again have full function of my forehead muscles, which I read on a doctor's blog that an older person NEEDS to keep their eyes more open.
If you're 50 or older, you should know that Botox will disable those muscles and your eyebrows will drop as a result...which definitely does not make you look younger! I would NEVER, had I been informed, have opted for fallen eyebrows and droopy eyelids in trade for fewer wrinkles in my forehead. I didn't have that many, and was told that the Botox would just "soften" the frown lines. The irony is that the frown lines are still very prominent, but frozen.
Still hating it, but getting through it. Scared I won't completely recover. Looking into Ultherapy now.
Botox still very obvious in my forehead, which feels like it has permanent Novocaine. It makes me nauseous to focus on it, so I try very hard not to think about it. The tiny amount she injected higher on my forehead over the outer ends of my eyebrows to correct the "Spock" effect created by the original injections over my nose in the frown lines, is wearing off faster than the original injections between my eyes, so when I raise my eyebrows (which I can do a tiny bit now), there are deep wrinkles and puckering over my outer eyebrows that weren't there before. My eyelids are still hooded and droopy and have an extra fold now that I didn't have before.
At my age (63, though I used to look 50), I don't know if the skin will recover. Because my eyebrows have now "fallen," I also have extra new crows' feet type wrinkles on the insides of my upper eyelids (next to my nose) which I did not have before. Don't know if they will go away after this or not, either. As the middle third of my forehead is frozen, and the outside two thirds not, when I wake up every morning I now have deep prominent vertical lines that extend from the middle of my forehead, down through my eyebrows and onto the tops of the eyelids on both sides. Obviously, that happens because I'm a side-sleeper. Never had even a hint of these lines before. VERY aging.
I continue to use my Galvanic Spa (a home-version from NuSkin) almost daily, and it makes a huge difference. My eyelids are completely droopy before a treatment and are significantly lifted afterward. Still nothing close to my normal appearance. I used to love making up my eyes with shadows, liner, etc..for the big, smoky effect. All I can do now is put on dark liner and mascara in hopes of looking less old and tired. I can hardly wait for this poison to completely go away, and pray that I will again have full function of my forehead muscles, which I read on a doctor's blog that an older person NEEDS to keep their eyes more open.
If you're 50 or older, you should know that Botox will disable those muscles and your eyebrows will drop as a result...which definitely does not make you look younger! I would NEVER, had I been informed, have opted for fallen eyebrows and droopy eyelids in trade for fewer wrinkles in my forehead. I didn't have that many, and was told that the Botox would just "soften" the frown lines. The irony is that the frown lines are still very prominent, but frozen.
Still hating it, but getting through it. Scared I won't completely recover. Looking into Ultherapy now.
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MP
May 18, 2012
I can completely understand why you would feel afraid you might not fully recover, but my guess is in another couple of months it will have worn off & you will be back to normal. I know this kind of stuff can be so frustrating, and even depressing at times, but do your best to keep a positive attitude and know that each day is one day closer to the Botox being out of your system. Hoping that goes as quick as possible for you!!
V
March 19, 2018
Botox is terrible. I had it at 28 for my 11s. My left eyelid drooped and still hasn’t fully recovered two years on plus sometimes it still pains. I feel like disabling your muscles in your fAce is actually ageing because those muscles also keep your face “lifted.” I should have figured this when I saw how terrible the receptionist looked. These injectors are full of it and liars to say there are no permanent effects and that this is a “rare occurrence”. It’s awful how Botox is advertised as risk free. It’s not and this drooping thing is more common than they make it out to be
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