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British 30 Yrs Old and Decided to Have Jaw Surgery to Help Close my Mouth - East Grinstead, GB
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I have always been unhappy with my appearance to...
sayah1May 3, 2015
I have always been unhappy with my appearance to such a degree that I would say it has seriously impacted on my life. My mouth closes at rest but only for a few seconds before it starts to ache. I have a very long face and no top lip. Throughout my life I have had hideous comments said to me because of how I look. Random people who don't even know me have thrown abuse and devalued me purely because I am not attractive enough to be respected. My appearance has stopped me striving for my dreams, has meant that I am to self conscious to go on dates and seriously effects my social life.
Anyway, I tell you this merely to set the stage.
I had braces from the age of 13 to 16 on the NHS - this straightened out my very crocked and crowded large teeth that have to fit into a very small mouth. My teeth moved outwards after the treatment finished to such an extent that when clenching my jaw shut I could fit my thumb behind my front teeth. At the age of 25 I privately undertook invisalign for 18 months to move them back into place and was very happy with how straight they looked.
The idea of jaw surgery came about after looking into having lip fillers. As stated I have no top lip - my mouth is very strange shape and my teeth are always on show - I look like a rabbit. The Dr explained that she could not perform the procedure because she wouldn't know where to place the needle. She suggested I saw a plastic surgeon. I of course was devastated she pretty much confirmed that I was a freak.
Anyway I went to see a private Dr who was the first to suggest Jaw surgery. By this point I decided that if I was going to get a top lip then I might as well go the whole hog and have surgery so that I can close my mouth as well. The Dr explained that my mid face was to long and that they could shorten the maxilla which would reduce my gummy smile (something that I had not even noticed)and enable me to (hopefully) close my mouth. He would then do a lip lowering procedure that would pull my top lip out. All this sounded to good to be true.
He wanted me to see a orthodontist just in case I needed minor brace work although he said he didn't think I would. He was very wrong
The orthodontist promptly told me that my centre line was out, I had a open bite and that my lower face sloped backwards. The only way to fix this was to have 3 years of braces followed by surgery to not only shorten the maxilla but to also bring it forwards and then rotate the chin. My dreams of having a new face within a couple of months were in tatters. I could barely talk through fear of crying and the orthodontist was wonderful.
It was then that she suggested doing this on the NHS which was really my only option as going private now would be way beyond my means. I didn't really think I was eligible but it turned out my open bite is my golden ticket.
So now I am waiting for the referral which means she will be referring herself to herself and both her and the original Surgeon I saw will be seeing me as a NHS Doctors rather than private. I am scared how long this will take. I am also scared of being a women in her thirtys in braces, yet another reason for people to say awful things to me. I just have to cling to the idea that 3 years of awfulness will lead to the rest of my life no longer hiding.
Anyway, I tell you this merely to set the stage.
I had braces from the age of 13 to 16 on the NHS - this straightened out my very crocked and crowded large teeth that have to fit into a very small mouth. My teeth moved outwards after the treatment finished to such an extent that when clenching my jaw shut I could fit my thumb behind my front teeth. At the age of 25 I privately undertook invisalign for 18 months to move them back into place and was very happy with how straight they looked.
The idea of jaw surgery came about after looking into having lip fillers. As stated I have no top lip - my mouth is very strange shape and my teeth are always on show - I look like a rabbit. The Dr explained that she could not perform the procedure because she wouldn't know where to place the needle. She suggested I saw a plastic surgeon. I of course was devastated she pretty much confirmed that I was a freak.
Anyway I went to see a private Dr who was the first to suggest Jaw surgery. By this point I decided that if I was going to get a top lip then I might as well go the whole hog and have surgery so that I can close my mouth as well. The Dr explained that my mid face was to long and that they could shorten the maxilla which would reduce my gummy smile (something that I had not even noticed)and enable me to (hopefully) close my mouth. He would then do a lip lowering procedure that would pull my top lip out. All this sounded to good to be true.
He wanted me to see a orthodontist just in case I needed minor brace work although he said he didn't think I would. He was very wrong
The orthodontist promptly told me that my centre line was out, I had a open bite and that my lower face sloped backwards. The only way to fix this was to have 3 years of braces followed by surgery to not only shorten the maxilla but to also bring it forwards and then rotate the chin. My dreams of having a new face within a couple of months were in tatters. I could barely talk through fear of crying and the orthodontist was wonderful.
It was then that she suggested doing this on the NHS which was really my only option as going private now would be way beyond my means. I didn't really think I was eligible but it turned out my open bite is my golden ticket.
So now I am waiting for the referral which means she will be referring herself to herself and both her and the original Surgeon I saw will be seeing me as a NHS Doctors rather than private. I am scared how long this will take. I am also scared of being a women in her thirtys in braces, yet another reason for people to say awful things to me. I just have to cling to the idea that 3 years of awfulness will lead to the rest of my life no longer hiding.
Replies (11)
May 6, 2015
Don't fear being a woman in your thirties with braces! I got mine at 46 and I had fun talking to kids and teenagers (and yes, some adults too! more and more common now!) about their brace-complaints. My guess is that you will find people more receptive to your appearance because they see you are "in transition" to making it better. Your life sounds like it has been miserable so far so I really hope you change this. About your lips--you may also be surprised by how much the soft tissue can change with changes in the bones underneath. I've recently had jaw surgery and I can see now that what some people call "full" or "thin" lips really amounts to how much the lips are being stretched. My nose was longer and larger before jaw surgery; now, without touching the nose, it appears shorter and smaller just because of where the bones are behind it. Best wishes for your journey. You deserve it!
May 6, 2015
Thank you for your kind words. The orthodontist actually said that I had a lot of top lip only it's not supported by any bone with is why it is 'underneath'. I am hoping this means that I will actually finally get a lip once I have the surgery but truely I would just be happy if I can close me mouth.
May 12, 2015
Hi, I was just today diagnosed with an open bite and told about this whole jaw surgery line that I have to go down. However I was in too much shock to properly question anything. When you say the "open bite is my golden ticket" does that mean that the NHS does all jaw surgeries when it's a case of fixing an open bite? I'm worried about how much it would cost going private.
May 18, 2015
I don't know for sure. I didn't even realise that I had an open bite because mine is very minor compared to others I have seen. I think it is also down the your dr.
May 17, 2015
Hi. You'll love it when it's all done and the time passes really quickly, so don't worry. Do post before photos if you can; you can black out your top part of your face to keep anonymity if that concerns you (I know it would me). Who is your surgeon? All the best.
May 22, 2015
Don't worry about going through it at 30, I am 51 and I am having trimax surgery in a couple of weeks. I understand your point in respect of the NHS, they ruined my teeth with braces when I was 15 and I have lived with an awful bite and bad teeth for many years. My overbite is in excess of 10mm yet they NHS won't entertain me and I need to go private. Even though I have broken crowns by biting into the back of them and my lower teeth have worn down, the NHS say it is cosmetic!! I have spent thousands of pounds on cosmetic dentistry in the past so I at least had a reasonable smile. Where is the fairness when someone can have breast implants on the NHS - you know who I am talking about!! It is a long and arduous process but I am sure it will be well worth it and I would really recommend you go through it.
Don't worry about wearing braces at 30, you soon get used to it. The first few months I apologised as I could not speak very clearly and I didn't like to eat in front of people as the food just stuck there!! After a while, you stop apologising and just get on with it.
I have had to save for a long time to be in a position to afford this but on my reckoning, I may have another 30 or more years on this earth and I want to be comfortable with my bite and with how I look. Good luck on your journey. Keep us updated.
UPDATED FROM sayah1
2nd Appointment.
sayah1June 22, 2015
I went to see my orthodontist last week to have my moulds and x-rays taken. She had a request for me. An online professional resource is being made for anyone considering jaw surgery and I was asked if they could film me having the joint consultation with her and the surgeon who would be performing my surgery. I have agreed although I am nervous.
I also asked what made me a candidate for having this on the NHS. I was told it was because I required both braces AND surgery to fix the issue. If it was just braces I needed then I would have to pay for it myself.
I am also so annoyed with myself. In 2009 I went to see a dentist who did invisalign. I couldn't cope with the idea of fixed braces and wanted the clear gum shields. I paid a fortune to straighten my teeth (it worked but didn't sort the fact that I can't close my mouth) but if I had gone straight to an orthodontist and mentioned ALL my concerns then maybe I could have side stepped that drama and fixed all this years ago.
I also asked what made me a candidate for having this on the NHS. I was told it was because I required both braces AND surgery to fix the issue. If it was just braces I needed then I would have to pay for it myself.
I am also so annoyed with myself. In 2009 I went to see a dentist who did invisalign. I couldn't cope with the idea of fixed braces and wanted the clear gum shields. I paid a fortune to straighten my teeth (it worked but didn't sort the fact that I can't close my mouth) but if I had gone straight to an orthodontist and mentioned ALL my concerns then maybe I could have side stepped that drama and fixed all this years ago.
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June 24, 2015
I am just starting to look into this and I am over 10 years older than you. Do it now, it is not too late for you.
Good luck!
Good luck!
June 24, 2015
Thanks for sharing your story. I'm sure you've spared many people from undue suffering & expenses. I hope this solved all your functional issues & you get a beautiful face & restored confidence in the bargain!
June 26, 2015
you wouldn't know what you exactly want until you start seeing the results after surgery.
that's the time when you'll be so specific and ask for fixing some particular points in your face.
get done with the major bone-related surgery first, then fix any minor thing a year later.
and voila, you're done :)
good luckkk
that's the time when you'll be so specific and ask for fixing some particular points in your face.
get done with the major bone-related surgery first, then fix any minor thing a year later.
and voila, you're done :)
good luckkk
July 13, 2015
Thanks for sharing your story, I'm just beginning the process of looking into this and your story mirrors mine! I completely understand not being able to shut your mouth- it makes me look gormless and hate my own appearance- it's hard to explain to someone who doesn't understand- so thank you! Your story has meant a lot!! - kelly
UPDATED FROM sayah1
Joint Consultation
sayah1July 17, 2015
Yesterday I saw both the orthodontist and surgeon together. They didn't used me for the online resource I mentioned in my last post because it was decided that my smile was to nice, which is always good to hear.
I went in for my consultation and had four people waiting for me. They examined me again and said lots of things that I kind of understood. They showed me an image of how I would look afterwards which was pretty freakish and not particularity flattering. They have some software that shows the results of moving your bones around but unfortunately doesn't give you the results of how your soft tissue will look i.e lips, nose, cheeks. So I looked bad, which I expected.
Currently my top lip sits 'inverted' because there is no bone to support it, so I have high hopes of ending up with a nice top lip once surgery is completed. I was also told I'd be looking at 18 months of braces rather the 2.5 years - THANK GOD.
Currently it looks like the plan is to reduce the hight of my maxilla by 1cm and bringing it forward by 5mm. They will then bring my jaw forward and perform a genioplasty.
The down side is that I was also told I had a 40% chance of nerve damage during the procedure which may leave me with slight numbness on my chin. This upset me. Part of me hates being vain enough to endure possible permanent damage, because I don't need the surgery to survive, it will just help with functional aspects of my mouth. But then I look at my situation, consider how it does affect me and my self-esteem and I know I'm still going to go for it.
I am now on the waiting list which is about 4 months - I will probably have braces before Christmas 2015.
Oh braces - I thought I was done with you..............
I went in for my consultation and had four people waiting for me. They examined me again and said lots of things that I kind of understood. They showed me an image of how I would look afterwards which was pretty freakish and not particularity flattering. They have some software that shows the results of moving your bones around but unfortunately doesn't give you the results of how your soft tissue will look i.e lips, nose, cheeks. So I looked bad, which I expected.
Currently my top lip sits 'inverted' because there is no bone to support it, so I have high hopes of ending up with a nice top lip once surgery is completed. I was also told I'd be looking at 18 months of braces rather the 2.5 years - THANK GOD.
Currently it looks like the plan is to reduce the hight of my maxilla by 1cm and bringing it forward by 5mm. They will then bring my jaw forward and perform a genioplasty.
The down side is that I was also told I had a 40% chance of nerve damage during the procedure which may leave me with slight numbness on my chin. This upset me. Part of me hates being vain enough to endure possible permanent damage, because I don't need the surgery to survive, it will just help with functional aspects of my mouth. But then I look at my situation, consider how it does affect me and my self-esteem and I know I'm still going to go for it.
I am now on the waiting list which is about 4 months - I will probably have braces before Christmas 2015.
Oh braces - I thought I was done with you..............
Replies (13)
July 18, 2015
I read with interest all that you have endured...I too have had many situations involving my teeth...best to you...
July 19, 2015
Oh please don't think you are vain. Everyone wants to look the best they can and all you can do is get the best advice possible, the clearest information and then make the decision you think will help you achieve what you are seeking. You are very brave. I hope you have family or good friends to support you through this.
July 19, 2015
I think you are very brave to take charge of a situation you don't like about yourself and be willing to take the steps to change things even though it is somewhat scary and a lengthy process. You can do this!
July 23, 2015
Good luck, wishing you the best. Do you have anyone to help you with recovery?

August 29, 2015
Just joined this site i'm from the UK too. I understand how cruel life can treat you and the way people treat you if you have a jaw issue. It can be frustrating knowing everyone around you disagrees with your choice of surgery and says you shouldn't change. I too have suffered low self-esteem and might be doing the exact same surgery
as you on the nhs :) I wish you good luck and please don't be too hard on yourself. Do what you want. Ignore the haters! Your better then them X
as you on the nhs :) I wish you good luck and please don't be too hard on yourself. Do what you want. Ignore the haters! Your better then them X
Thanks for sharing the beginning of your journey with us. It would be great if you could post some "before" photos so you can track your progress.