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10 months post-op explant & it's great to be natural again
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I specifically went to Dorner because he said he...
curious312February 20, 2014
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I specifically went to Dorner because he said he would remove my implants without a capsulectomy in office. My capsules were soft and thin. No problems with implants just preferred removal. At 2nd consult he wanted to remove some of the capsule "to prevent fluid buildup". I said I prefer not. He drew a picture for me and assured me the piece removed would be dime sized. During surgery he removed 1/3 of the capsule which caused alot of bleeding and put me at more risk. This affected the aesthetic result in that everytime I raise my arms the skin in the area where he removed the capsule pulls upward. I emailed him about my concern and asked to move my appointment up. His response was...it wasn't his fault, nothing could be done and no need to change the appointment...without seeing me. My incision also became infected right after surgery. I called him on the phone and he saw me days later. My photos are shown in the questions to other Dr's I posted. I feel he put me at risk by removing part of a healthy capsule unnecessarily and when I was assured he performed breast implant removals in office without capsulectomy. I would have preferred he listened to what I wanted and if he disagreed sent me elsewhere. Too bad I can't turn back time but for the rest of you I would not go to him or at the very least get another opinion. I didnt expect perfect with breast implant removal but this distortion can only be the result of removing part of a healthy capsule without considering muscle or skin attachment to that capsule.
UPDATED FROM curious312
9 months post
sorry for ranting
curious312February 24, 2014
First of all, I really appreciate all the brave, wonderful, supportive women on this site. Secondly, I am so glad they are out. Feels great to just be me again. I recommend explant to everyone thinking about it. You don't need that poison in your body, you are beautiful the way you are. With so many drs out there with different opinions and procedures. Take your time and get more than one opinion. My personal opinion is that if your capsules are healthy and the implants intact, leave the capsules alone, your body formed them. Removal of the a healthy capsule comes with risks since it is more invasive. I understand if you have CC than they should probably be removed. I am not a dr. Thats only my personal opinion. You can see my questions and picture's if you click on my username. They look fine, after all I am 50. Lol. The distortion is only when I raise my arms but I will take it over having those bags in my body......best wishes and thank you to all of you that are so supportive to others......best wishes xo
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February 25, 2014
Forgot to mention. Not only would Dr. Dorner not move up my appointment, they actually called to push it out further. Also I received no post op instructions as far as what to wear. I was wrapped in a thin guazy type of ace bandage that was not reusable and told to remove it after 2 days. But then what? Didn't mention compression bras or anything. I was kind of out on a limb. This site actually gave me some insight into post surgical care since Dr. Dorner did not.
February 27, 2014
I am very sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at my office. I am not sure why you did not receive our postop instructions. Our patients all receive a postoperative binder which most people find instructive. Infections are also taken very seriously and are generally seen promptly. Once again, I apologize that you had a bad experience, but this is not the norm. Keep in mind that these are just general statements regarding patient care here in my office as I do not know who you are, but I will personally look into these issues to be sure that this is not recurring. Sincerely, Dr. Dorner
February 27, 2014
I sent you a personal e-mail months ago with the photo's I posted on here included. I have posted the date of my explant and details. It would astound me that you do not know who I am.
March 4, 2014
I'm sorry, but I see many patients and am unable to recall all of them. It did come as a surprise to read your review. I must have not realized how upset you were with the outcome of your surgery and did not adequately address your concerns. For that I am sorry. Believe it or not, I try to do the best for every patient, with every operation. I take it very personally when patients are unhappy with their outcomes. I wish that everyone had a perfect outcome, but in surgery that simply isn't the case as everyone's individual healing cannot be controlled or assured. Unfortunately your outcome did not meet your expectations. As I was the last physician to operate upon you, I become the face of your displeasure, whether any technical mistake had been performed or not (as the other physicians on this forum replied, they did not feel any technical mistake was made). I'm sorry I was not able to address your concerns before you felt the need to write such a negative review, and I wish you the best of luck in the future.
March 4, 2014
I'm sorry you did not address my concerns sooner also. My surgery was 9 months ago. I'm over it. Still happy to be implant free. I feel Dr. Reviews are helpful to those looking for a Dr. Just gave my experience and rating based on my experience and opinion. Everyone can decide on a Dr. For themselves but I do stress multiple consults. It is very difficult due to so many varying techniques for the same surgery. This is a support group for people going through similar experiences so any sharing helps others. No need to reply to me again. As I've said, it was 9 months ago as specified in my posts. I look forward, not back. Best of luck in the future to you also.
February 27, 2014
From a medical perspective regarding the distortion of your breast when raising your arm: this is caused by transection of the pectoral muscle at the time of implant placement. When the implants are removed this can be exaggerated in some people. It does not correlate to removing a portion of the capsule. The only fix for this type of distortion is to reinsert the muscle onto the chest wall. I hope this information is beneficial.
UPDATED FROM curious312
10 months post
10 months after explant
curious312March 7, 2014
I wanted to post an updated pic. Still thrilled I had my implants removed. It's great to be natural again. Keep in mind I'm 50 and breastfed pre implants. The skin still pulls up when I raise my arms. I still feel thats due to the unnecessary partial capsulectomy that I allowed against my better judgement. But I can live with it and would never wish for the implants back. What really gave me strength to get through my journey was that I learned from the ladies on here that giving myself time to heal was imperitive and it could take 6-12 months. At my one week check with my dr. he said I could expect no more healing and how they were then was how they would be. I said no. I have faith and am giving myself more time (again, thanks to the stories of the ladies on here). He laughed. But that's ok because he was wrong and the ladies were right! 2 things I cannot stress enough. Pick a dr. You are comfortable with. Give yourself time to heal, you will heal. Love and best wishes to all going through the explant journey. The road might get bumpy but it ends in happiness. Be patient : ) xoxo
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March 7, 2014
You look great love !!! Glad to hear that this is all in the past and you are happy with the new you ;-) oh and by the way, you do not look 50. Keep on smiling :-) xoxo
March 7, 2014
Thanks for the update and encouragement! You look fantastic!!!
March 24, 2014
Curious312, Did you have a lift? Your 10 month post op picture looks great!! You give this 56 year old a little more hope!
March 25, 2014
Hi. Thank you so much. Their small and squishy but I love that now over the implants. I didn't have a lift. Had them out in office, under local. The Dr. Did remove a small portion of the capsule that he really didnt need to because it was thin and healthy. But overall it was an easy removal. I think it took me awhile longer to heal. I was pretty deflated and wrinkled right after surgery. When I went in for my week check the Dr. Said that was all the healing I could expect. I told him no. From what I had read on here, I had faith I would heal more. He laughed. He was wrong! The best advice I can give is be patient. You will heal. That saved me and gave me hope throughout the healing process. You will do great I know it. You will be pleasantly surprised!!!!!! ♡
June 16, 2014
Dr. Dorner did my implants a couple years ago and they are beautiful. I'm very happy with them and I'm actually happy to see your explants. I was worried that if I ever want them removed they would look saggy and bad but yours do not so that gives me much hope. I think he's a great, attentive and caring doctor.
October 18, 2014
Good luck with your implants. Did you know you're in the breast explant forum? The breast augmentation forum might better suit your needs. Just a helpful hint ; ) best wishes!
October 18, 2014
Hi again. After my reply I noticed this is your only post. You really should visit the breast augmentation forum and post pics of your "beautiful implants". Might be helpful to others considering it.
October 18, 2014
Yes. I was simply complimenting you on my doctor's work performed on you for which you are so unhappy. Your rude private message was very much unnecessary. For others to see, it read as follows: "curious312 sent you a private message on RealSelf:
Subject: seriously?
Hope you received a discount on your next procedure. LMAO!!!!!"
You are obviously the hard to please type who feigns positivity. Good luck IN LIFE to you ma'am!
November 2, 2014
It's just soooo obvious that you became a member on the same day you commented on my post. It was your one and only post in a forum you don't even belong in. Obviously Dorner's attempt to make himself look good after his botched surgery on me. People on here are not that stupid and many have dealt with incompetent doctor's themselves. Thank you for posting my email. I have nothing to hide. Just calling you/dorner out. Next I will post my email to him and his reply to me right after my surgery to further prove his incompetence. Still lmao!!! Hard to please? Forgive me for wanting a competent plastic surgeon who would not cause me a deformity. How silly of me.
November 2, 2014
I do not work for Dr dorner! paranoid much? I signed up specifically to comment on your post. If you really think my response sounded like a doctor's response or a PR attempt you're a freakin idiot!! You really think you were botched. Whatever. You should see my best friend's implants. She was botched. And how dare you tell me what forum I'm SUPPOSED to be in. I can read and post in any forum I please. Maybe I'm considering explants. You have no clue.
November 2, 2014
Email to Dr. Dorner from me, sent 6 months after explant:
Hi Dr. Dorner,
I saw you in May of this year to have my breast implants removed. I came to see you because I wanted my implants removed in-office, under local anesthetic and without a capsulectomy since my implants were intact and the capsules were soft and normal with no capsular contracture. I just wanted them removed because at almost 50 years old, I felt it better for my health and frankly I was just over having implants. You wanted to remove a "tiny piece" of the anterior capsule to avoid fluid buildup. I explained I really didn't want any capsule removed since I have little breast tissue, "I need all I can get". You drew me a picture of the side view of the capsule and how much you would remove. You said it would be just a small hole in the capsule. In the picture it looked smaller than a dime size piece. Of course at that time I didn't realize from a front view it was probably more of a 3"width by at least 1"height. During the first consult we had already decided no capsulectomy and about 30 minutes total. We changed it at the second consult.
During the surgery one of the girls didn't know the plan and when you started on the capsule, she asked if you were doing a capsulectomy. I think she was a bit taken aback. You did the right side first and when you started on the capsule I screamed in pain and felt blood rush down my side. You were shocked that I felt that because you said the capsule has no nerves. You used extra anesthetic on the left and I felt no pain just the blood run down my side. That was the only pain I felt during the procedure.
That was just some background. I know you see alot of patients. Sometimes it's hard to keep track. I'm a dental hygienist. When there's one of you and lot's of them sometimes it's hard to remember specific patients and their last appointments. Lol.
Trust me, I did not expect wonders after breast implant removal. However I have some odd healing symptoms. I am sending pictures. I hope they come through. I am not very technologically literate. Lol. I am definitely not a plastic surgeon bug I'm going to put my lay person's guesses out there. I have an appointment with you in a couple weeks. I wouldn't mind if I could get in sooner though since this confusion is driving me nuts although I'm not sure anything can be done about the problem. I definitely do not want implants again.
Forgive my ignorance if my guesses are totally off the wall. Here goes....I think I had complete muscle adherence from having the implants. The first were subglandular and the second were submuscular. When I flex, both entire breasts raise. That I can live with. What bothers me is when my arms are down, my medial tissue close to ghe sternum is trying to pull up and when I raise my arms the distal tissue on the outside of the breasts near my sides pulls up. I'm curious if removing the piece of capsule combined with the adherence caused this? Is there some technique I can use to help it. I've been doing massage. I've tried both sports bras and braless and lotions. Please check out the pics and if you can seeme sooner that would be great. I just am having a hard time trying to figure out wwhat's going on and it's driving me nuts. Like I said I wasn't expecting miracles but this is odd. Thank you.
Dr. Dorner's reply email: Removing any amount of breast capsule has nothing to do with this. When implants are placed, they cause stretching of the tissues and physical changes. I can see you sooner but there is nothing urgent to be done. The surgery to have the implants removed has nothing to do with this. Dr. Brian K. Dorner, MD
November 2, 2014
These emails were exchanged between Dr. Dorner and myself prior to any posts on this site.
November 2, 2014
Sorry, laughing way too hard, tears are streaming down my face and I'm rolling on the floor!!! Too hilarious to dignify with a comment. You're making my point for me! Considering explants after you just sung his praises? Hahahahahahahaha........
November 2, 2014
I was simply making a point that you don't know why I viewed your post. I'm not considering explants at this time, but when I'm old like you, maybe. I think it's hilarious that dr dorner told you you were wrong and you seen to think it's an admission of a mistake on his part? Learn how to read.
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