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TCA Peel 20% - Process/results 45 Yrs Old Fair Skin - 2 Layers W/in One Hour
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Last year I had IPL, which was painful but did...
ggchovMay 1, 2014
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Last year I had IPL, which was painful but did earn me some results which I liked. My skin was much more even toned and many of the small freckles and tiny dark spots I had disappeared. In general my skin looked 70% better. I've always thought that I could tolerate pain well, but the "snapping" on my skin was very hard to bare. I actually cried through the procedure, which surprised me. Anyway, since then I've been researching other lasers to potentially maintain my skin. The cost has been a bit prohibitive, but not a deal breaker, still more than anything the potential of pain and complications I'd read about with Fraxel lasers and other lower strength ones even put me off. That's how I got to the TCA peel.
Regularly, I've been using a glycolic pad (15%) at night on a bi weekly basis to keep up my skin. I'd purchased Kerstin Florian intensive renewal pads (don't know if they are still available) years ago after a great experience at a spa wherein the technician used it on me. As you can imagine, I've had this product for years, so bi-weekly is probably an overstatement, but still my face has known chemical/acid applications, so that's a factor I believe that needs to be considered.
I decided on using TCA, due to the fact that it's a more serious peel than glycolic and lactic and had the potential of creating similar effects to a laser application at a fraction of the price.
I ordered from Amazon and settled on the Trichloroacetic Acid Solution TCA 20% by Erlenmeyer's Laboratory. After reading other reviews on RealSelf, I also purchased Bio Oil for post treatment.
As I'd read elsewhere I prepped my skin by washing and I used a non soap wash I have. Next I applied acetone and found quite a bit of oil and dirt came off. I did this twice. I then put on a pair of latex gloves and soaked two cotton balls with the solution. I applied it generously all over and included the lower lid area, especially focusing on the crows feet area. My eye corners are not terribly defined, but when I smile they tend to bunch up quite a bit. I have had Botox in this area about 3 months ago (very little actually), but it's worth mentioning.
The initial application burned, but not strongly. I kept it on about five minutes and watched my skin closely for changes. Other than a bit of redness and some tightness there was little effect it seemed. Still, I neutralized with a baking soda paste I'd made and then applied the Bio Oil and waited further for anything to develop. Within an hour it didn't seem like much had happened. With that in mind, I went looking at feedback I'd read about layering (or applying the solution multiple times). I decided to go for it, realizing I'd be frustrated if there were no results and unsure of what the issue was or if the product itself was bad.
I washed my skin of the Bio Oil and with gloves applied a second layer of the TCA. This time the effect was entirely different. Immediately the burn I experienced was much stronger. Similarly, this time I quickly saw the change in my skin or the frosting effect many mentioned. The frosting started on my upper cheekbone (by my outside eye) and then progressed to all over. I swathing in areas that didn't appear to change and they did as well. The burn was intense in parts, but not incredibly painful, maybe like a bad sunburn with tingling. I waited about five minutes again and applied the same baking soda solution to neutralize. Almost immediately the burning stopped. This time my face was very flushed and red. Just like many others have mentioned it looked like a bad sun burn. I applied the oil and went to do some work. In an hour I came down to the mirror to look at my face and noticed something like dark freckles had developed by the outer corner of both eyes. Not sure if this has anything to do with the Botox or what really, but you can see them in the picture I'm uploading.
Today is day 2 and I woke up to find my face less red. The tightness is there, but no peeling yet. Fingers crossed. I'll try to keep this updated.
Regularly, I've been using a glycolic pad (15%) at night on a bi weekly basis to keep up my skin. I'd purchased Kerstin Florian intensive renewal pads (don't know if they are still available) years ago after a great experience at a spa wherein the technician used it on me. As you can imagine, I've had this product for years, so bi-weekly is probably an overstatement, but still my face has known chemical/acid applications, so that's a factor I believe that needs to be considered.
I decided on using TCA, due to the fact that it's a more serious peel than glycolic and lactic and had the potential of creating similar effects to a laser application at a fraction of the price.
I ordered from Amazon and settled on the Trichloroacetic Acid Solution TCA 20% by Erlenmeyer's Laboratory. After reading other reviews on RealSelf, I also purchased Bio Oil for post treatment.
As I'd read elsewhere I prepped my skin by washing and I used a non soap wash I have. Next I applied acetone and found quite a bit of oil and dirt came off. I did this twice. I then put on a pair of latex gloves and soaked two cotton balls with the solution. I applied it generously all over and included the lower lid area, especially focusing on the crows feet area. My eye corners are not terribly defined, but when I smile they tend to bunch up quite a bit. I have had Botox in this area about 3 months ago (very little actually), but it's worth mentioning.
The initial application burned, but not strongly. I kept it on about five minutes and watched my skin closely for changes. Other than a bit of redness and some tightness there was little effect it seemed. Still, I neutralized with a baking soda paste I'd made and then applied the Bio Oil and waited further for anything to develop. Within an hour it didn't seem like much had happened. With that in mind, I went looking at feedback I'd read about layering (or applying the solution multiple times). I decided to go for it, realizing I'd be frustrated if there were no results and unsure of what the issue was or if the product itself was bad.
I washed my skin of the Bio Oil and with gloves applied a second layer of the TCA. This time the effect was entirely different. Immediately the burn I experienced was much stronger. Similarly, this time I quickly saw the change in my skin or the frosting effect many mentioned. The frosting started on my upper cheekbone (by my outside eye) and then progressed to all over. I swathing in areas that didn't appear to change and they did as well. The burn was intense in parts, but not incredibly painful, maybe like a bad sunburn with tingling. I waited about five minutes again and applied the same baking soda solution to neutralize. Almost immediately the burning stopped. This time my face was very flushed and red. Just like many others have mentioned it looked like a bad sun burn. I applied the oil and went to do some work. In an hour I came down to the mirror to look at my face and noticed something like dark freckles had developed by the outer corner of both eyes. Not sure if this has anything to do with the Botox or what really, but you can see them in the picture I'm uploading.
Today is day 2 and I woke up to find my face less red. The tightness is there, but no peeling yet. Fingers crossed. I'll try to keep this updated.
UPDATED FROM ggchov
9 days post
Day 3 to 10
ggchovMay 10, 2014
Well day 3 and 4 were about tightness and thin little skin fractures. Nothing serious, these were the cracks of a very thin layer of skin that was about to peel. I'd forgotten to mention that by middle of day 2, I developed a blister just on the outside of my mouth by my lips. It didn't hurt, but was bright red and is actually just now (day 10) settling down. You can see it in the attached pictures.
Back to skin tightness and day 4...As I read someone else describe it: it felt like my face had been painted with Elmer's glue and every time I would frown, smile or laugh I could feel it giving and cracking. I couldn't help myself, I had to then exaggerate it, by exaggerating my face/opening my mouth wide, in the mirror just to watch in wonder as my skin cracked here and there. Of course that was the very first skin to come off then, that which was around my mouth (for that same reason). By day 4 I was very crinkly and looked like a much older version of myself. It was interesting. My husband found it that way too and kept saying, 'so this is what you'll look like'. Some of the skin on my cheek had come off during the night and during the day as I would gently scratch it with the back of my hand. The skin that came off was very thin with light pink skin showing on the other side. Some areas of my face, where I had applied the most attention and times (creases around my mouth and crows feet) were the reddest and most effected. By day five I ventured outside with big sunglasses and a hat. I did take them off at a restaurant and know that I didn't look normal, nor was I exactly scary, just someone with really bad blotchy skin. I got a bit cocky around day five and started to remove certain spots that I had convinced myself were ready. For that I got a bit red spot on my nose that only started to go away yesterday. Similarly I had peeled a small bit by my eye and immediately regretted the red open skin that revealed. Still, that was really on a few spots that it needed to stay and most of it was gone by day six. If I had wanted to wear makeup and go out I would say that I could have comfortably done so.
So here we are at day 10...Am I still glad I did it and do I have the results I wanted? Well, yes I am glad I did it. For one, I am an experimenter and this suits me to be in charge of myself. It's not for everyone for that same reason. When a girlfriend of mine asked if I could do it for her, my answer was a straight "no". She should go to a doctor and have them oversee her. I don't know how to do that. I know my skin and I know the chance I'm willing to take and to what amount after doing a lot of research and weighing the odds. She hasn't done that work and I wouldn't want to assume the responsibility of it for her. I wanted to create collagen, do a deeper than superficial exfoliation and potentially get rid of some clogged pores. Since I'd had good results with glycolic in the past I wondered what the next level would look like and think that this was the next natural step.
Improvements are there in the form of some bumps I had that I just couldn't squeeze out on the side of my cheek, now gone. some of the freckles I had are definitely faded and I see improvement on crease next to my mouth and tightness around my eyes that was a nice surprise. I didn't however get the glowing white pink skin I was hoping for that I felt I had gotten from IPL a year and half earlier. I didn't lose all the little sun spots on my cheeks and nose, but some. Doing it next time I would like to do it under the supervision of a doctor if for no reason other then they'll know better what they are doing. I don't think I would try to do anything stronger than a 20% on my own and that's my level of tolerance for gambling with my face.
Back to skin tightness and day 4...As I read someone else describe it: it felt like my face had been painted with Elmer's glue and every time I would frown, smile or laugh I could feel it giving and cracking. I couldn't help myself, I had to then exaggerate it, by exaggerating my face/opening my mouth wide, in the mirror just to watch in wonder as my skin cracked here and there. Of course that was the very first skin to come off then, that which was around my mouth (for that same reason). By day 4 I was very crinkly and looked like a much older version of myself. It was interesting. My husband found it that way too and kept saying, 'so this is what you'll look like'. Some of the skin on my cheek had come off during the night and during the day as I would gently scratch it with the back of my hand. The skin that came off was very thin with light pink skin showing on the other side. Some areas of my face, where I had applied the most attention and times (creases around my mouth and crows feet) were the reddest and most effected. By day five I ventured outside with big sunglasses and a hat. I did take them off at a restaurant and know that I didn't look normal, nor was I exactly scary, just someone with really bad blotchy skin. I got a bit cocky around day five and started to remove certain spots that I had convinced myself were ready. For that I got a bit red spot on my nose that only started to go away yesterday. Similarly I had peeled a small bit by my eye and immediately regretted the red open skin that revealed. Still, that was really on a few spots that it needed to stay and most of it was gone by day six. If I had wanted to wear makeup and go out I would say that I could have comfortably done so.
So here we are at day 10...Am I still glad I did it and do I have the results I wanted? Well, yes I am glad I did it. For one, I am an experimenter and this suits me to be in charge of myself. It's not for everyone for that same reason. When a girlfriend of mine asked if I could do it for her, my answer was a straight "no". She should go to a doctor and have them oversee her. I don't know how to do that. I know my skin and I know the chance I'm willing to take and to what amount after doing a lot of research and weighing the odds. She hasn't done that work and I wouldn't want to assume the responsibility of it for her. I wanted to create collagen, do a deeper than superficial exfoliation and potentially get rid of some clogged pores. Since I'd had good results with glycolic in the past I wondered what the next level would look like and think that this was the next natural step.
Improvements are there in the form of some bumps I had that I just couldn't squeeze out on the side of my cheek, now gone. some of the freckles I had are definitely faded and I see improvement on crease next to my mouth and tightness around my eyes that was a nice surprise. I didn't however get the glowing white pink skin I was hoping for that I felt I had gotten from IPL a year and half earlier. I didn't lose all the little sun spots on my cheeks and nose, but some. Doing it next time I would like to do it under the supervision of a doctor if for no reason other then they'll know better what they are doing. I don't think I would try to do anything stronger than a 20% on my own and that's my level of tolerance for gambling with my face.
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June 26, 2015
As a licensed aesthetician who has performed medical strength peels for 20 years, I have a word of warning : a TCA peel of this strength should NEVER be performed by anyone that isn't a licensed professional & well trained /experienced with chemical peels. There are so many things that could go wrong here, I don't know where to begin. TCA, especially in this strength, is an extremely potent acid. It's capable of causing severe burns, blistering and scarring to the skin. When performed in a medical setting, the patient is thoroughly evaluated to be sure there are no contraindications for having a chemical peel of this type. A person who is using retinols or other prescription topical/oral medications could have an extremely bad response to this procedure. It is definitely not a "do it yourself at home" kind of treatment! I doubt that many people would be happy to have red ozzing blisters on their skin and potentially more hyper pigmentation than before. Another disturbing thing in this post (by the person who experimented on her skin) is that several of the steps she performed in her "procedure" are incorrect and would never be used with this type of peel. Any rubbing of peeling skin can cause post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation, which means more brown spots and even white spots, which are usually permanent. Please take my advice and see a professional for any type of chemical peel you may be interested in having.... Experimenting on your skin with caustic chemicals is not worth the risk.
November 9, 2018
Ozzing blisters? Oh please. You’re short training doesn’t even make you a tenth of the expert in everyone’s skin types as you imagine it does. In fact, just as many damaging results from these kinds of peels happens under the care of a qualified aesthetician and even dermatologists and PS cause hyperpigmentation and hypopigmentation by misjudging skin types and healing reactions.
Also, how are YOU going to be there to ensure your client doesn’t absentmindedly rub her extremely itchy healing, peeling face post leaving the clinic? These are all instructions she had and didn’t need you or I to be aware of. I even fell into the trap occasionally, in full knowledge of the dangers!
The fear-mongering is pretty ridiculous when it’s done on people who self treat who have researched, know their skin, and have worked up with peels.
Save it for people that use a strong peel on virgin skin without any clue.
Some people are entirely capable of self peeling. Not everyone is an idiot, nor do they need to go to aesthy school for two years to learn it.
Also, how are YOU going to be there to ensure your client doesn’t absentmindedly rub her extremely itchy healing, peeling face post leaving the clinic? These are all instructions she had and didn’t need you or I to be aware of. I even fell into the trap occasionally, in full knowledge of the dangers!
The fear-mongering is pretty ridiculous when it’s done on people who self treat who have researched, know their skin, and have worked up with peels.
Save it for people that use a strong peel on virgin skin without any clue.
Some people are entirely capable of self peeling. Not everyone is an idiot, nor do they need to go to aesthy school for two years to learn it.
May 1, 2016
Hi FYI if you had kept creams and oils on your skin every day post you would have peeled in sheets ,,,,your body went through a lot and to help heal no seperate the old skin from new you must keep moist tell it's healed .....then cortazone will help with the pink look after all peeling is done ... I know your post is old but I hope it will help someone else,,,, it takes time to peel and if it itches that means there is not enough water in the skin so vit.E and coconut cream ...of whatever you choose but no perfume cream they are made with natural gasses and you don't want that on new skin......il love to see how your face came out.....I also put two layers on with a peel fan brush so there is no dripping and it goes on even all over....
May 1, 2016
Do not peel the skin that is coming off if it's a big piece trim it .. And never rub your face or any other part of a peel big nono
October 12, 2016
What the heck is a tiny skin fracture? Didn't know you could fracture your skin. I sincerly hope NO ONE follows this stupidity.
You should not get blisters from chemical peels unless they have been performed incorrect.
You should not get blisters from chemical peels unless they have been performed incorrect.
November 9, 2018
Performed incorrect? I think you mean incorrectly. It’s a little hard to take an extremely rude and abusive correction of a poster who was btw beyond generous to share a very detailed review of her self treatment (perfect, mistakes, or otherwise), when the ‘corrector’ can’t write as well as the original poster and has trouble with basic grammar.
I’m an esthetician myself - excellent training in Australia. I’ve also done this peel more or less exactly as OP did, and I think her description is excellent and demonstrates some pitfalls (difficulty avoiding rubbing those itchy peeling patches, or getting overconfident that they’re just ready to peel). It’s highly important info. I struggled with it, too.
If you are careful and understand your skin as OP does, do all the research, start with lower strength peels etc, there’s no reason not to use this strength of peel if you know your skin can tolerate it without adverse effects. The issues are inexperienced users who go straight to a strong TCA without having any clue how their skin will react and not having worked up from 10%.
I’m an esthetician myself - excellent training in Australia. I’ve also done this peel more or less exactly as OP did, and I think her description is excellent and demonstrates some pitfalls (difficulty avoiding rubbing those itchy peeling patches, or getting overconfident that they’re just ready to peel). It’s highly important info. I struggled with it, too.
If you are careful and understand your skin as OP does, do all the research, start with lower strength peels etc, there’s no reason not to use this strength of peel if you know your skin can tolerate it without adverse effects. The issues are inexperienced users who go straight to a strong TCA without having any clue how their skin will react and not having worked up from 10%.
October 13, 2016
Bravo and your blister was a herpetic breakout...why do people that are not trained do these peels? Not smart.
UPDATED FROM ggchov
9 days post
Products!! I forgot to mention.
ggchovMay 10, 2014
First I used Bio Oil, which I had read someone had great success with. It is a mild light oil that was okay. By the end of day two I felt like my skin needed real soothing, which the oil was incapable of. I had a tube of Lancôme Nutrix laying around somewhere, which is the best richest most lovely cream in the world and able to sooth a sunburn like nothing else, but I couldn't find it to save my life. Instead, I used a cream a doctor had suggested when I was in Spain a couple of years ago (I had burned my arm) which had worked very well and this moisturizing cream did the trick. So, make sure you have something un-perfumed and moisturizing around that can soothe the skin.
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May 26, 2014
Really helpful review, thanks. I am on my second day after my home tca 20% and am using Vaseline. Thanks for the tip about bio oil!
May 1, 2016
Lancôme has a perfume in it ..... Do not use perfume cream on peels use.....vitamin E, coconut oil or cream ....perfume creams are bad for the new skin........if you can't get good cream break a hole in vitamin E caps and use them till you peel and after with cortazone cream wash x2 a day but pat skin no rubbing at all .......PLEASE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A PEEL READ UP ON IT ....cotton balls hold a lot of fluid so you did triple time .
November 14, 2018
Agreed. Natural products are definitely best after a peel. I use tamanu and rosehip together with cocoa butter incorporated at night. I know rosehip is a form of vitamin A but I have had no problems with it. Also I use a fan brush (synthetic for wet applications) which is what is recommended for chemical peels.
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