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My Large breast or breast Hypertrophy is causing...

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My Large breast or breast Hypertrophy is causing me functional problems such as; chronic back, neck and shoulder pain with shoulder grooving. I am 33yrs old, my height is 5ft4in, my weight is 130lbs, my BMI is 22.3 normal, my body surface area is 1.6431m2, and my current bra size is 34DDD/F, which is top heavy for my small body frame. Living with breast Hypertrophy makes it difficult for me to engage in normal activities such as running, jugging, and playing physical games with my friends and family. Some day's and night's I can be in so much pain in my back, neck, and shoulder area's that I am completely immobilized, unable to take care of house hold chores, or to take care of my family. To deal with the pain, I have been taking over the counter NSAID's such as Ibuprofen a few times a day, mostly in the evenings, for over a year. I have been using a heat pad on my back every night for the past 10 months. I've been wearing a wide strap bra since January to alleviate shoulder grooving, and have found little to no relief from the painful indentations. I went to physical therapy, from March 2013 to May 2013 to relieve my chronic pain. During physical therapy, I was doing strength training and specific exercises to improve the muscular strength in my back and shoulder area's. During physical therapy I also received back, neck, and shoulder massage. I have found the massages only relieve the pain temporary, and the strength training to have done nothing close to alleviate my chronic pain. My physical therapist told me she was astonished to find a women of my age 33 showing signs of mild Kyphosis, which is normally seen in women ages 65 and older. She believes that my back could greatly improve by eliminating excessive tissue extending beyond my trunk, for which such excessive breast tissue is causing injury and increased stress on my thoracic spine. My primary doctor prescribed muscle relaxers for me in May 2013, to help alleviate or temporarily relieve my chronic pain. Even though the muscle relaxers do help me deal with the pain some what, they have had harmful side effects, including extreme constipation. Even with a healthy diet filled with high fiber fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, I haven't been able to make a bowl movement within a weeks time on a regular basis, and have had to revert to using over the counter laxatives once a week. I am a mother of two young children and another side effect from taking muscle relaxers is that I am left feeling very lethargic, dazed, and often foggy. Because I am a stay home mom, to best take care of my small children, I wind up having to wait until bed time to take the muscle relaxers, leaving me with hours of pain before bed time. I believe I have tried every conservative therapy to relieve my chronic pain, leaving the only other option being breast reduction mammoplasty. On August 14th I had my first consultation with a board certified plastic surgeon. First he asked me questions about what procedure I was interested in, then he asked me about why I was interested in breast reduction surgery. I told him about my chronic back, neck, and shoulder pain and shoulder grooving. He then examined my breast with out my bra or top, with a nurse in the room. He took measurements of my breast. From my sternal notch to my nipple, I measured 27cm each. From my sternal notch to my inframammary fold I measured 22cm. And from my nipple to my inframammary fold under my breast, I measured 14cm. He then took pictures of my breast from different angles, for insurance purposes. I then got dressed and we talked more about the surgery, my expectations, and my post op size. He said having large breast with a small thin frame, usually means my breast are mostly made up of glandular tissue with less fat. I asked him how many grams he believes was in each breast and he said less then 900grams each. I told him I wanted to be as small as possible, preferably 34B/32C cup post op. He said he believes that's possible and that he thinks we can achieve that size by reducing each breast around 500grams. He believes I'm a great candidate for breast reduction surgery and should have no trouble getting my health insurance company BCBS of Kansas to cover it. I hope they believe its medically necessary, because with out coverage I wont be able to afford a breast reduction at this time. He told me that he does the Anchor technique, and keeps the nipple attached. He does this at a hospital in Denver. He has his patients spend the night and he removes the drains in the morning, then you can go home. He then checks up on you in a week. He uses absorbable sutures and surgical glue over the incisions. And he said I can shower the next day. We went over all the risks, like nipple death necrosis and expected scars. Also when you have absorbable sutures it can take up to 9months for them to fully be absorbed. Sometimes absorbable sutures work there way through the wound before they can be absorbed, causing infection around the stich, requiring drainage of the abscess pimple, removal of the suture remnant and antibiotics. He told me the hospital will provide me with a surgical bra after surgery and they will show me proper wound care. He said the first week I'll need the most help, but by the second week I should be back to doing normal stuff. He said each person's recovery is different. He said no strenuous activity for 6weeks, since it usually takes 6weeks for wounds to fully heal and become strong again. He said I should have my final shape 6months to a year out. I asked him about my size post op, he said my nipple will be 35mm, my nipple now is around 38mm. He said my nipple to my inframammary fold will be 4.5cm and he didn't say what my projected nipple to sternal notch distance will be post op. I'm thinking probably 16.5cm, but I'm not totally sure on that. Those dimensions should make me a B cup, I hope. I feel positive but a little nervous, I'll feel better when I find out weather or not my health insurance company is going to cover my surgery. My plastic surgeon is an in network doctor, and so is the hospital in Denver. So hopefully that helps. My primary care doctor's nurse had a breast reduction a few years ago by the same surgeon, and she showed me her breast (I did not ask to see them :P), but I'm greatful she did, cause her breast look great! You can barely see her scars and her breast are small, symmetrical and perky. I hope mine come out looking that nice. I've been a D cup size since middle school, that's 2/3'rds of my life having big breast. Its been a long struggling journey with all this weight on my chest, and I look forward to a happy ending with a new beginning and a new chance for a happy life. A new life of happier bathing suit shopping, Bra shopping, and all clothes shopping. A new life of running play sports and being over all way more active. I want a new life where people look at my face my and not my huge breast. And most importantly a new life with out my chronic pain. Wish me luck, I'm hoping to hear back about my insurance they said it usually takes 4-6weeks, so hopefully sooner then later. I'm hoping for surgery by September 20th 2013. I pray ever day that they will cover the procedure. My husband will miss my big breast, but he's being very supportive. I love him very much, plus he say's he's more of a butt guy, then a boob guy anyway. He say's he loves my small butt and just wants me to be happy. Happy wife happy life :)

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Replies (19)

August 18, 2013
I'm happy to hear you're getting this done, beautiful small perky boobs here we come! :) Thank you for your review, I can relate to a lot if it. I too am 33 yrs old, & a stay at home mother (of 3 children). My frame is smaller & I'm looking forward to not having to go to specialty shops or online to purchase my bras (32G). My surgery is scheduled for this coming Mon the 19th, I haven't posted before pics yet but I took some & hopefully will post them soon. Thanks again & Congrats!! :)
August 18, 2013
My frame isn't smaller than yours, I just meant smaller in general .. ;)
August 18, 2013
I know what you mean myheather. I probably should be in a 32G instead of a 34DDD, I recently lost some of the weight I gained after having my daughter. And I was thinking about buying a few new bra's and that's when I decided I'd rather just have the surgery. I usually buy my bra's online from Bare Necessity since most places don't carry larger cups for smaller backs. My Bra's are so much pricier then the ones at Walmart. I was in with the plastic surgeon and I told him I'm not usually 130lbs, I'm usually 120lbs, but after having my daughter its been tough losing these last 10lbs. I asked him if I have the surgery and then lose 10lbs is that going to give me flatter droopier breast? He said no, 10lbs is not going to matter. He said 30lbs might change the look of my breast but not 10lbs. With a 32 back your probably a small person too :) 32G is not very common. If it was we would be able to shop anywhere. And after surgery I know I told my husband I wouldn't have to buy pricier bra's anymore but that's not completely true. I wont have to buy pricier bra's but I will any way's because I want to buy the pretty Victoria Secret Bra's that I haven't been able to fit in. It's his fault, he knew I had good taste when he married me ;) I hope after your surgery you get to buy your bra's where ever you want as well :) Good Luck on Monday myheather!
August 18, 2013
Thank you HappilyMarried!!! You are so sweet! & yes I love bare necessities, another GREAT one is Herroom.com ..they have an awesome review section on each bra & I go by those reviews a lot; and figleaves.com is good too, you should check out their swimwear for our sizes, it's one of the best I've seen.. Not that we'll be needing that anymore Lol :) And I know I was thinking the same thing about the expensive bra thing! .. I never can say it's to spend less $$ on bras cuz Victoria Secret is just as pricy as what I'm getting, & I too am looking forward to being able to buy bras from there :) I love that you mentioned asking your PS about losing the 10 lbs & if that would make them droop a bit more. I Reallyy needed to hear that answer cuz I'm in the same boat.. I even looked that question up on here and read the dr's answers to it & they basically all said the same thing as yours, 10 lbs won't matter but yes 30 lbs probably will. I really wanted to lose the weight before my surgury, but here it is the day before.. I just never got serious soon enough. Well you have time my new friend, just live healthy till your surgery date.. You will most likely lose a good portion of that before it's time. Take care & have fun preparing!! :))
August 18, 2013
Thanks myheather :) I never thought about how hard just losing 10lbs is, but it is. I feel sorry for the women who have to lose a lot of weight before their surgery. I think its going to be easier to take off that last 10lbs of baby weight after my breast reduction, at least around 6weeks post op. Its so much harder exercising when you have large breast. I so look forward to the day when I can going running with out having my large chest bouncing every where with every one staring at me. I'm eating healthy and doing yoga. I'm not allowing my self to eat potato chips, candy, soda pop, or wine until after surgery. The wine until 6weeks after, so that I heal properly. It's hard though, my husband is always bringing chips candy and soda pop in the house :P So I'm not gonna stress about it, since it will be easier after. You cant see it in my pic's cause I do well to hide it but, ever since I had my daughter I've had like a permanent pooch under my belly button. I know there's muscle under it, maybe like an inch under the squishy. Hopefully it goes away once I start running, cause I hate doing stomach crunches. Good luck on your surgery, you must be so nervous. I was very nervous just going to my consultation. I'm shy about having a strange man touch my breast. Also I wasn't sure if I was going to like him, or if he would agree to help me get down to a 34B/32C cup. But everything went well and he was real nice. I remember being so scared before I gave birth to my children, but both times everything turned out really well. A little while back I had a dream that I was being operated on and the anesthesia stopped working and I could feel them operating on me, and then I woke up all freaked out. I've been under anesthesia before, so I think I'll be ok, but I'm still so nervous about the whole thing going well. I'm trying not to think about it. I'm worried what if my plastic surgeon doesn't make me small enough and I have big breast with scars. And I'm worried about nipple necrosis, since I've seen some other women on this site get it. And necrosis is not pretty :( I feel so bad for those women who get it. I just keep telling my self the good out weighs the bad. I keep trying to be positive. I haven't even gotten the ok from my insurance company, and that's what I've been most worried about. I wish you luck tomorrow. I hope you get a good nights sleep and that everything turns out the way you've hope for myheather :) I'll be looking to see how things went for you after tomorrow :) Good Luck!!
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August 18, 2013
We are having surgery the same week! Mine is September 18. My husband also loves my breasts but he is very supportive of my decision. It's so hard because we have to be anxious for ourselves and our hubbies too! We of course want them to be satisfied as well. = )
August 18, 2013
When I was giving birth to our daughter, I told my husband not to look at all the mess that's going on down there, so that he wouldn't be traumatized. He listen to me and kept his eyes north, and was glad he did. A few months ago when I decided to have this surgery, I showed him pictures of other women's breast after breast reduction surgery. He was not to impressed and didn't care for the images, but he said he just wants me to be happy. When you first have the surgery done, the sight of your breast are jarring, but with time the scars do fade, and on most women look great within a years time. So I told him I wont be showing him my bear breast for 6months to a year post op, to save him from being traumatized. I have been blessed with a husband who loves me on the inside and out. And even hits on me when my skin breaks out, I'm bloated, and when I haven't had a shower, he still thinks I'm beautiful. I told him no sex for 2 months post op, and when we do have sex again I will be wearing my bra for the first 6months. Which isn't to strange, since I wear my bra most of the time when we have sex. I've known for along time I was going to have this surgery. I just wanted to be done with having children first. This year we both decided that two children are enough, and that's when I decided I'd like to have this surgery this year. I told him before we got married that someday I will have breast reduction surgery, so he's known for many years now this was coming. And all year every time he puts his hands on my breast I tell him enjoy them while they last :) I told him more then a handful is too much anyway, and then he shows me he has big hands and they can cover my entire breast. I know this will be a challenge for us, but he'll be happier, because I'll be happier. Plus he's going to save money by not having to buy any more expensive bra's and bathing suits. So that should make him happy :) I'm no longer going to be in pain, and I know he feels bad when I'm in pain. I was reading another women's post and she was talking about feeling self conscious about her scars when her boyfriend feels her up during intimacy. I know were trading one issue for another, but I'm sure with time our scars will heal and our lives will be back to a better normal. I want my husband to continue to be attracted to me, and I know that part of attraction is physical and the other part is emotional/mental. He will be more attracted to my higher self esteem with my more proportioned perkier breast I think, then the reserved large chested women I am now. Plus you don't hear me complaining about his hair loss. Know body's perfect, but we love each other and support each other and that's what matters most. When he comes home from the barber's I just tell him how handsome he looks, like Bruce Willis, I think that gives him confidence about what's left of his hair. I didn't marry him for his hair and he didn't marry me for my breast. Love comes in all forms, and I hope he can learn to love my new figure as much as he loves the old one. Most importantly I hope I love my new figure more then they old one.
August 18, 2013
Wow HMarried33!! As with the rest of the ladies.. I'm praying ur acceptance into this Sorority of BR Sis. :)) I had to go thru all that as well. Whew!! Best to you. And your Husbandly support sounds awesome!!
August 18, 2013
Thanks Sharr1 I love all the support we give each other :) This site is so helpful without it I would be going at this alone. I feel like I'm leaving the big breast sister hood to join the smaller breast sister hood, it's so wonderful. I really hope my insurance cover my surgery. I've never wanted anything so much in my whole life :)
August 18, 2013
Thank you Kimski and myheather for you comments and support :) I love Real Self, its so wonderful to have others who are going through the same personal journeys, to be able to communicate with. Good luck on your surgery on Monday myheather, and good luck Kimski on your surgery in September as well :) I hope you both end up with beautiful, healthy, and smaller perkier breast :)
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August 22, 2013
Good luck to you too happilymarried !
August 22, 2013
Thank you Kimski :)
August 18, 2013
I am 2.5 weeks post op & am glad I did it. I also wanted to be at my ideal weight but am 10lbs over. I ended up with an allergic reaction & just got on steroids. Feeling so much better now. Was already able with a bra on to get busy with my hubby. Can't wait til exercise & lifting restrictions are done. My two small boys will be glad too. My 2 yr old doesn't understand why I can't carry him. Insurance covered mine 100%. I went from a 34DDD to a small 34C. They removed about 400g from each side.
August 22, 2013
Thank you for your post Tmom2boys. I'm sorry to hear you had an allergic reaction, but I'm glad to hear your getting better :) I have a 3yr old and I know it's going to be hard for her to understand mommy's restrictions. I too am a 34ddd and I hope to be a 34B/32C. My doctor said he's going to remove 500grms I hope that is enough to make me small. He's afraid if he makes me real small I'm not going to like it, cause I'm so used to being big. Which is weird, cause the reason I want to be so small is because, I've been so big for so long. I really don't want to end up a D cup, I just want to be small. Your lucky your insurance paid 100%, I hope my insurance will approve my surgery and at least pay 80%. I don't know why its so hard to lose 10lbs, but I'm sure it will come off after surgery, cause I plan on doing a lot of walking post-op, little by little, until I can start running. Good luck on you last 10lbs, I hope it comes off with ease :)
August 25, 2013
Thanks Happilymarried33. They should definitely approve it. 500g each side should take you down to your desired size. Trust me mine feel so small compared to before. They don't seem too big at the 34 B/C. I'm mentally ready to exercise but I'm still healing internally, which feels like it goes slow. If I stretch too far lift something over 10 lbs I hurt. So the 4-6 weeks may be more on the later side as its only 4 days til 4 weeks.
August 26, 2013
I can only imagine what it must feel like to be so close to being able to go running with your new body. When I was younger running was one of my favorite things to do. After my body changed running was no longer fun. Not only was in more difficult to run, it was more embarrassing doing it in front of others. Having a breast reduction would be liberating for me. If I'm lucky enough to get my procedure done soon, I know after ward I'd be like a child the night before Christmas. My new breast would be like a gift I cant wait to play with. Being pregnant is a good way to learn patients. You have to wait 9months to get your new baby. The whole time your pregnant your restricted from doing so many things, like lifting, running, and sleeping on your stomach. I'm so looking forward to be where your at now, and when I'm at your point, I'm going to look forward to finally healing too. Thanks for the tips, I'll try real hard not to stretch too far or lift something heavy. But being a stay home wife and mother of two young children, I know that's going to be hard. Happy Healing Tmom2boys :)
November 13, 2015
OMG these look like they could be my pix! Your after job is amazing!
UPDATED FROM smaller34
28 days pre

Waiting for ok from insurance :P

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I'm just going to clean and organize my whole house until I find out if I've been approved. When I was younger I was a scrawny skinny little girl. The boys were always so mean to me. My mother was very pretty, she was a trade show model for Tequila Patron. My mom was 5'8'' 115lbs and 34D cup with long blonde hair. No matter where we went she was always getting crazy attention from men. Men would do anything for her. My grandmother always loved to tell the story of when my mother was a teenager walking down the street with her mom, a men was driving by her and he couldn't keep his eye's off her, she was so pretty, that he crashed his car. The man was ok. I remember praying one day when I was a kid, that when I grew up, I want to have big boobs like my mom, so all the boys will like me. Well just a few years later I wound up with the biggest boobs out of all my friends. I got what I wanted, the boys stopped being mean to me, and all started being very nice to me. I didn't realize how unwanted that attention would become, it got old quick! Sometimes I would think it was my fault for asking for big breast. All the women on my mom's side have big breast, and all the women on my dad's side have smaller breast. So my sister who was two years younger then me wound up with small breast. She has an A/B cup, and I have a DDD cup. We both had problems with men, I'd get too much sexual attention from men, and she couldn't get enough. I was always the prude and she was always the promiscuous one. Now I'm married with two kids, and she's still dating at 31yrs old looking for Mr. Right. As hard as it has been having big breast, it does have it's up side's sometimes. Before I was married, I used my figure to get what I wanted sometimes, and it worked most of the time. I didn't even have to put out. I told my husband when I was in my 20's and I went to the bar's and club's with my girlfriends, I never had to buy my drinks, ever. Men would do anything just for my attention. But once I feel in love and got married, I didn't want anyone but my husbands attention. Now that my son is getting older, and no longer a baby, I've had to watch the way I dress, so that I don't come off looking too sexy. When you have a small waist and a big chest it's hard not to look sexy in just about anything. I wear T-shirts and jeans most of the time. If I wear a crew neck, I feel like a football player. So I mostly wear V-neck t-[RS bleep], but when I bend down every one can see my cleavage. I hate having big breast now, not only do they hurt my back all the time, but you get so much unwanted attention. When I go to my son's games or when I'm at his school or around other parents I just want to look normal, not like a [RS bleep] star. I cant wait to have a normal smaller chest. I want to take my kids to the pool, without all eyes being on my chest. When I'm at the pool with my kids, I always have to wear a t-shirt in the water, and I still get people staring at me like I'm in a wet t-shirt contest. I just smile, and act like I don't notice when I'm being ogled, but it bothers the heck out of me. I'm sure most of it's in my head, and I'm being overly self conscious but, I cant wait to have smaller normal breast. Sometimes I wonder how I'm going to get treated after I get my reduction, how men will treat me then. Will they completely ignore me, will they see me as a regular women? I hope they will treat me with respect. And I'm going to take good care of my self, so I'm hoping to be seen at least somewhat attractive to the opposite sex. I hope my husband will still find me attractive. My husband asked me a strange question the other day. He said " Has anyone ever gotten divorced after their wife had a reduction?" I was taken back a little by his question, not that I he's thinking about divorcing me, I know he adores me ;) I said "I don't know, I wonder if anyone's ever gotten a divorce because their husband plays to much video games." He thought that was funny, but sometimes he play's so much, it does drive me a little crazy, and the thought of divorce does pop in my head when I get mad enough about it. He's obsessed with his games. You can't talk to him when he's playing, you can't get him to do anything when he's playing, he always comes to dinner late, and it drives me nut's when were all in the car waiting to go someplace and we all have to wait for him to be done playing his game. I'm hoping he's just going through a faze right now :P So have any of you ever wondered if you were going to be treated differently, after you had your breast reduction, good attention or bad attention? I know I say I don't care about what men think, but I'm still a young women and want to be seen as attractive. I hope after I get a reduction, I get all good attention. I'm staying positive. It's driving me crazy waiting to find out if I've been approved by my health insurer Blue Cross Blue Shield. My plastic surgeon was very optimistic about it, and that helps me feel more positive. So I guess I'm going to go clean something to take my mind off it :)

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August 22, 2013
Just want to wish you a best of luck.
August 22, 2013
Thank you Nia80 that's sweet of you :)
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August 22, 2013
Good luck to you!!! We have pretty similar situations/stats, although you are much thinner, I am hoping to be around your weight when I have my surgery :) I absolutely sympathize with you about the attention, and everything! Keep us posted!
August 22, 2013
Thank you Tamjoy, yesterday I went grocery shopping and I bought some Reduced Fat Oreo's for me and the kids. They are 30% less fat then the regular Oreo's, but we usually get double stuff. Last night my son was like "MOM! These Oreo's are AWFUL!" then he show's me they barely have any frosting in the middle. He said the frosting is the best part. He said "I'm NOT going to Eat these!" So I said fine more for me. Which defeats the purpose of getting them, since I got those so I'd be eating less of them, about 30% less, and now that he's not eating them I'm going to be eating more of them, probably about 50% more :P
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August 23, 2013
haha... yup, that's usually the way ;)
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August 22, 2013
You and I are really about the same size, I will keep you posted of the progress. 1 week to go!
September 1, 2013
Thank you JenH57 :)
November 19, 2015
just curious how you are now after all this was done. If I am reading correctly you had to have a Corrective surgery to the 1st one...? I just had this done a week ago and am regretting it... My husband really wanted me to do it for 23 yrs he really didn't touch my breast so I finally got it done b c insurance approved.. I did not see this site before the reduction or I probly would not have done it. I feel all my Sexy is gone now. But I can totally related to the Pool gauging, I got that all the time. I am 5'3 and had DDD+. now I fit into the same swim suit but no spill over in the breast area. I always thought the ladies were jealous b c they did not have boobs. I have 6 children and the pregnancies basically gave them to me.. So I figure God wanted me to have them.. Now I feel a little like a boy with no chest.. My husband is the same age as me and doesn't play viedo games he is a serious business man. But when he saw my breast for the 1st time this Saturday, he later cryed and said he was sorry he ever made me feel like I should have done this. He said the Dr. Deformed me... I feel like a C, B- but who knows what size I am. I have that Corset bra you all show in the pictures. It is very uncomfortable at night and hurts my back more than my regular bra did when I had the DDD plus. I feel like I got Boob on the Sides of my chest now, Dr. assistant said that could be swelling still.1 week post op. So I don't know if that is just swelling.. Going to see a New Gynecologist so he can look at them with my family Dr. and give me some opinions.. So how are you doing now? Are you happy with your Results your notes are 2 yrs old.. Thanks
UPDATED FROM smaller34
23 days pre

Waiting on Dictation?

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I had my consultation on 8-14-13. On 8-23-13 I called my plastic surgeon's office to see if they have had a chance to fax my courtesy review along with my medical records, doctor and physical therapist recommendation's, and my patient testimony. And his assistant said they haven't sent any of my info yet, cause they are waiting on my surgery dictation, and that can take over a week to get. I asked her to e-mail me when they get it and she fax's my info, so I'm not going crazy waiting. She still hasn't e-mailed me and it's 8-27-13. So, I'm not sure if they've sent my info to Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas yet. She said even after they fax my info it take 3-4weeks to find out whether or not I've been approved for surgery. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get my surgery on Sept.20th anymore. It maybe in Oct or November now, since it's taking forever to get my surgeon dictation. Did any of you have to wait for a dictation before they could send your info to your insurance company? Sept.20th is a day that would be perfect with our schedule, but I may need to find a different day, if all of this is going to take so long to get preapproved, if I'm even lucky enough to get preapproved. It will take even longer if I have to appeal. I have to get this done before the end of the year since we've all ready used up most of our deductible. The surgery will be much cheaper for us if we can get it done before the end of the year. And September's just around the corner, so I'm kinda stressing thinking about how much time this is all taking, and I feel like a hour glass is running out of time to get all this done. Aghhhhhh! Stress! Alright I guess I'm gonna go clean something to get my mind off of all this stress :P

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