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A Decision I Have Regretted Every Day for 6 Years

UPDATED FROM Youngerat50
1 year post

Photos of scarring, hairline loss & roll of skin on neck.

$23,000

Providing pictures of bilateral hairline loss, unsightly skin roll on neck (later removed in revision which caused hairline to move back even farther & a plethora of complications) & scarring behind ears. Also have pictures of cobra neck & tilted ears. Hairline has not recovered 6 years post op and skin remains scarred.

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Kevin J. Cross, MD

Kevin J. Cross, MD

Board Certified Plastic Surgeon

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UPDATED FROM Youngerat50
1 year post

Revision to flatten the skin roll his surgery left & adverse and potentially permanent consequences:

I continued to experience & be treated for ongoing pain from, among other issues, the unsightly skin roll the surgery left on my neck, and ~two months post-op Dr. Cross performed what he referred to as a little “scar revision”, (“no more involved than removing a mole” he had advised) that opened up the entire descending length of the scar behind my ear to my neck and “changed the vector” of the skin roll, requiring 10 stiches (see picture). He added a filler, Restylane* 0.3cc to the “left hairline indent” caused by the roll ‘to elevate skin until healing matures” (see large, discolored area in picture). (*Restylane package contains FDA Warnings with regard to injecting in areas with prior surgical procedures and the “known adverse event” of “delayed-onset inflammation near the site of dermal filler injection”). That evening and over the next week I experienced extreme pain far in excess of the pain from surgery, muscle spasms in my neck, and loss of neck mobility. I contacted Cross Medical staff multiple times via text and telephone but was informed that they were unable to see me in the Philadelphia office until a week later. The nurse prescribed pain medication. By the time Dr. Cross was able to see me in Philly, there was significant inflammation, requiring first a nurse, and then with a larger needle and more aggressively Dr. Cross, to very painfully drain a significant amount of fluid from my head. I had to return to be checked for draining every 2 days.

Following this "in-office" procedure I experienced tightness and pain over a much larger area of my head on an ongoing basis and Dr. Cross referred me to a pain specialist. The tightness & pain persists 6 years on, not only at the “headstrap” but following this revision, in the entirety of the back of my head.

Note on Medical Records:

When I requested my medical records for the pain specialist, I found glaring omissions, and misstatements. My post-op medical records did not document the pain and tightness (or the long skin roll) even though my first seven post-op appointments were spaced 3-10 days apart in attempts to address the pain and administer numerous Kenalog injections (~10 or more each session). The Kenalog injections were also not consistently documented and when they were they were only mentioned as “1 cc kenalog 10 mixed 1:2 w/lido 1% epi” but without specifying the number of injections, the specific areas being injected, or the medical necessity for the injections. Instead, my medical records stated repeatedly “Patient is pleased. Patient has no complaints. Patient is progressing normally” “No significant problems”. Citing HIPPA, I requested my medical records be corrected. Following my insistence, Dr. Cross included pictures of a one-dimensional face with circles that were intended to convey where he had injected kenalog, and a list of medications that I had been prescribed both post-op and following the “revision”. He did not amend the narrative in the original records. When I argued that the omissions continued to be too sizeable to accurately convey my experience to another physician, Dr. Cross suggested that I have any physician that treated me in the future call him. In a final attempt to ensure the accuracy of my medical records, I provided Dr. Cross’ office with copious details from the notes I had taken at each appointment. Dr. Cross agreed that my notes would be incorporated into my official medical record with a brief note from him stating that he had reviewed them.  When I requested a copy of my records, I was provided with a pdf in which my handwritten notes were often barely legible alongside his typed records, and would prove difficult for any physician to decipher. Regrettably, this approach only created a parallel and competing narrative since it would be impossible for anyone to reconcile my notes with Dr. Cross’ own notations (“intense pain that required numerous steroid injections to control” versus “patient is pleased/no significant problems”). As a result of both circumstances, I explain to each new physician that I do not have any accurate medical records of my post-operative experience and that my verbal account is all that is available. This complicates my ability to secure appropriate care on an ongoing basis.

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This is a major red flag: living in a fantasy world and having no connection to his patient's reality.
Did you ever get a platysma release?
No.
I have the same neck appearance as you and it has ruined my face and is constantly pulling from my mouth and behind ears and restricting my movement. I’m trying to have my doctor release the muscle from behind ears. If you don’t mind me asking, why didn’t you decide to go through with the release?
There were no guarantees it would make it better and a risk it would make it worse. At this point I have heard from many, many women with this unrelenting tightness ("the headstrap") as a result of this type of surgery and the ones that have obtained *some* relief from this procedure had very extreme tightness (for example not allowing them to rest their heads or sleep) and had the release done early on. Even at that, it did not entirely eliminate the tightness and pain & several rely on medications to make it through each day. I know of some women that have had 3 or 4 procedures to address it, each marginally improving the situation. I cannot provide any type of medical advice but I understand that if it's not done early, then the tissues will have restructured in the new position & it is more difficult to correct. Surgeons have varying views on the utility of the release.
Are you considering the surgery with your original surgeon? Are your operating notes and medical records complete enough for you to take them to another surgeon?
Unfortunately I had a full revision with my original surgeon. He was mainly supposed to reduce the submandibular glands which I believe would have corrected this but for some reason he ended up only reducing them slightly and then doing a bunch of other stuff and making the platysma even tighter! Now I’m back in the same boat all over again! He does not believe me when I tell him about the functional issues this is causing. I keep begging him to release the posterior suspension and he keeps stringing me along. I’m going to see if I can recruit any other surgeons to help although it’s early on.
Have you ever considered a revision to reduce the submandibular glands to take weight off the platysma hammock? I have put together that everyone with this same cobra neck appearance experiences the pulling so I’m trying to figure out how it could be corrected
Ask for a copy of your medical records and ensure they are accurate. As per my update above, each time I go to a new physician I have to explain to them that I don't have medical records that accurately reflect my post-op experience or treatment. So, check on this early.
The experience of most of the women I've spoken to that have sought out a new surgeon for revision is that no new surgeon will touch you until the statute of limitations has passed for malpractice on your first surgery. They'll just keep sending you back to your original surgeon, and obviously, it's very difficult to trust the surgeon that did the surgery (or in your case the surgeries) that landed you in the situation you are in now. Unfortunately, more often than not there is no other alternative during the first two years post-op. You either trust the surgeon who botched you, or you live with it.
Some of the professionals I consulted opined that too much skin had been removed during the original surgery & that the quality of the skin was materially compromised (potentially as a result of excessive kenalog (steriod) injections) - see pictures- and therefore that it would be risky to do another surgery of any kind. I feel fortunate I did not have complete skin necrosis
I have a copy of my original procedure notes. Before my revision, I consulted with a dozen other surgeon that were all willing to revise. I regret going back to my original surgeon SO bad! I have a consultation set up for tomorrow with one of the surgeons I met with previously to get his opinion and see if he can offer me any help.
That is horrible! I don’t think I have an issue with too much skin removal. Today my surgeon did offer steroid injections behind my ears but I declined. I just strongly feel it won’t help and I’m underweight already so I don’t want to lose fat and cause more issues. I’m really at a loss on what to do right now
This is fantastic news! Be sure to get the operative notes from the second procedure too! Good luck!
Thank you so much! I will definitely have to figure out how to ask for the most recent operative notes. My relationship with my surgeon is a bit…. Awkward right now. He doesn’t believe me and keeps bringing up anxiety, therapist, etc. when I’m telling him these very real, life altering problems he created for me. Hey, also, do you have any idea on the women you know of that had the platysma released. What did it do cosmetically to free that muscle? I’m wondering if the neck just says down or what. Thanks for chatting! I’ve seen all your comments and questions on here and have been dying to get ahold of you!
I can't say with much certainty what the aesthetic outcome has been. The women I've communicated with that had the "headstrap" pulling or the cobra neck stopped caring about the impact of treatments on their appearance as long as they got relief. That's the irony of it all I think.
ORIGINAL POST

A Decision I Have Regretted Every Day for 6 Years

I underwent a lower facelift and neck lift procedure with Dr. Cross at age 54. I came in as a healthy patient with specific expectations for the outcome.

My Post-Operative Experience: Pain, tightness and an unsightly roll of skin on my neck.

Following surgery, I experienced significant & prolonged pain & tightness and was left with an unsightly and thick roll of skin (~3 inches) clearly visible on my neck (see photos). My post-op medical records did not document this pain and tightness (or the long roll of skin) or consistently document treatment even as Dr. Cross was injecting multiple steroid shots into the area every 3-10 days.  My records instead stated repeatedly “Patient is pleased. Patient has no complaints. Patient is progressing normally” “No significant problems”.

 My Concerns About the Surgery:

The description of the procedure in my operative reports is unusually brief for an approximately 5-hour procedure (2 hours longer than estimated pre-op)—with just over 1/2 page of narrative of which ~40% is dedicated to preparation & fat extraction for transfer. Dr. Cross came in to mark me in the examination room prior to the surgery, but I did not see Dr. Cross in the surgical theater before being placed under anesthesia. When I awoke from surgery, Dr. Cross was not present. A man was present in the surgical theater whose name does not appear anywhere in my medical records & who was not introduced to me as a member of the surgical team, which I find concerning. Additionally, I spent the night in a hotel near Dr Cross so he could check in on me the next morning, but he canceled.

Cosmetic Outcomes:

The visible results include what appears to me as a "cobra neck" appearance, a hairline that has receded significantly revealing scars in the area behind my ears and on my neck that, in my view, resemble significant burn damage.  My ears appear tilted back in a way that is noticeable to others. I experience ongoing nerve-related sensations and discomfort that have not resolved in the six years since surgery and neurologists are still trying to address. While there was initial improvement in facial appearance, these changes have not held over six years.

My Request and His Response:


When I requested a refund of my surgical fees to help cover ongoing medical expenses related to complications, Dr. Cross declined. Since I work in banking he compared his surgical outcomes to investments: "Banks try their very best to make proper investments for their clients, but they don’t pay the clients back if the investment doesn’t go as expected.”

Overall Assessment:

In my opinion, this surgery has been profoundly negative for my quality of life. I experience daily discomfort and visible changes I find distressing. I deeply regret having this procedure. I would not recommend Dr. Cross based on my personal experience with this surgery and its aftermath.

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This is horrible. Is it possible Dr Cross had a stand in for the surgery??? Very strange you didn't see him before or after. Unheard of really!! I am so sorry this happened to you!!
My surgery was his last surgery on the Friday of Halloween weekend. I want to clarify that he did mark me & each member of the surgical team introduced themselves to me while I was signing documents in an examination room. But once I was in the operating theater, a man who had not introduced himself was by my side & I asked him who he was. He said he was in all of Dr Cross’ surgeries & then I became unconscious. I saw Dr Cross mark me & then again two days later. I cannot hypothesize outside of those facts.
I did inquire with Dr Cross as to why his initials on my admission sheet were a clear KC, and on the operative forms they looked very different, almost like 3 C’s but he said he sometimes uses different initials/signatures.
I feel absolutely terrible for you! At the very least, he could have refunded your money so that you could use it to cover some of the costs resulting from the complications he caused. And comparing medical procedures to investments is incredibly arrogant and insensitive. Patients put their health and trust in a surgeon’s hands — that is nothing like making an investment.
The implication is that a surgeon has no more control over the outcome of your surgery than a banker has over movements in the stock market. There are millions of buyers and sellers and economic influences on the stock market. In the operating theater it is just you and the surgeon - and you are unconscious!