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Full Permanent inplants on top, snap in denture on bottom

UPDATED FROM Kiawya
1 month post

Gums are a fickle thing..Water Piks & SeaBond Wafer Review!

Kiawya
WORTH IT$26,000
The other day, I got up, did my usual routine, and when putting in my temp bottom denture, it was SOOOO loose. Like my gums shrunk overnight. I couldn't eat with them at all, even with adhesive. I have to wait 2 more weeks to get them refit (soft reline?). I'm guessing this is normal, right? Its only been 6 weeks since surgery. Time is moving soooooo slow.

So, I tried the SeaBond wafer, for the bottoms. Wow, I got a great fit and they feel more secure then ever before. You must cut them down to fit, AND, you can't use them according to the directions. Best to press them in on a wet denture, then have the faucet on just a trickle, and lightly wet the whole strip on the denture before pressing them into your mouth. I'm still finding though, that eating anything that is really soft with a lot of particles (like a muffin) will make them slip. Eating was better with soft foods that are more solid. I hope that explained it well. Like, I could eat scrambled eggs and sausage with no problem, but chunky soup, muffins and bread are off the table.
Without eating, they would hold practically all day, comfortably. With eating, I had to change them 3x a day, (and they are zinc-free) but it was easy, quick and not real messy, the fit is very comfortable.

As for my top implant, the space between my gums and teeth, (normal with the temps) is getting a bit annoying. I have developed this kind of "sucking" habit, that is weird. However, I started using a Waterpik, and oh how wonderful, it just cleans though SO WELL. I highly recommend using one for cleaning, just don't put it on high pressure while you are still healing, (at least 4 months after).

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January 20, 2015

So much good information here!  Thank you so much for continuing to share your experience.  I'm sorry I'm having trouble keeping it straight, but when exactly are you going to be able to get your perms, again?  And when you get the perms is when you'll be able to get rid of the denture?

January 20, 2015
I'll get my snap in bottoms (perms) in 2 1/2 months or so. Yes, I will be getting rid of the denture and get a new piece with the connectors to my 2 bottom posts. Its a bit smaller than the over denture, and NO ADHESIVE or slipping. I cant wait!
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January 21, 2015

Why did I think it was only 6 weeks? :(  Still, that sounds wonderful!  Hopefully the time wills start going faster soon *fingers crossed*!  And I apologize in advance, cause in a few weeks, I'll probably ask you again, unless you start a count-down.  Whenever I read your posts, I'm just, like, is she getting them soon now?? :D

June 22, 2015
Im so glad I ran into this site..Im 6 weeks into it, but I have been back every week for pain and they fix them but..I too am starving, its a great weight loss.But I cant go out to eat for fear something will get under them and its excruciating and I have to take them out, which is impossible in a community type bathroom..LOL I hope I will be ok right now Im miserable.
May 24, 2018
This seems crazy to me. The all on 4 will wear down the snap in and, for aporox the same $, Dr Golpa and company does both upper and lower all on 4 with permanent bridges put in the next day. The chances of an all on 4 upper and a snap in denture working well in the long run are way too low to have to deal with the pita maintenance of the denture, all to save $3-4k. Why do it?
May 25, 2018
People do whatever suits their finances at the time. They do what they can and no one should judge WHY they choose a procedure that fits their wallet. What she chooses to do in the future is her business, unless someone wants to finance whatever they think she should have done in the first place
UPDATED FROM Kiawya
1 month post

Waiting for my snap in dentures. 3 months and counting. I'm HUNGRY!

Kiawya
I'm a bit depressed. This has been an emotional ride if ever there was one. I love love love my top teeth, but waiting for the 2 post snap in to heal an be ready is really getting hard. Time is moving slow. I'm trying to keep my denture in all day, and I'm eating soft foods, with difficulty and annoyance. It holds when I talk and all, but eating is such a challenge. I've used Fixodent plus, and it works great to last all day, if I don't eat. If I eat, my denture ALWAYS slips during the meal. UGH. At least it doesn't hurt. I just keep telling myself that, and patience is hard. Its only temporary, but its still difficult. What I didn't know, and would like to pass on, is the biggest problem with getting new teeth. DISTRACTION. It will take months to get used to how this all feels in your mouth, and while your not in pain, there are all new feelings, nerve twitches, and stuff that keeps you quite distracted. I've taken too much time away from work, its been 6 weeks, and my teeth are STILL on my mind ALL the time. Patience Patience, Patience!

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January 18, 2015

I cannot even imagine what you are going through :(.  I mean, I've had a lot of surgery, so I know what it's like to know recognize parts of yourself, and even a year or more later, be surprised by how something feels.  But I still can't imagine what it'd be like if it were my teeth.  I'm still not used to having my wisdom teeth removed, and they're way in the back and do not at all affect my ability to eat.  Hang in there...you're doing so well with a terrible situation.  But I'm very glad to hear you're not in pain!!!

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January 20, 2015
Your new teeth have enhanced your beauty.
May 24, 2018
Senseless suffering and high maintenance. Why? No need for it-really.
UPDATED FROM Kiawya
1 month post

Saved money, did implants on top, and snap in denture on bottom.

Kiawya
So, I've been out of surgery for a month now, and I chose NOT to go with Clear Choice. Not that I had a problem with them, its just that they quoted me a price, and then after I had to shop around, they dropped it and became all "salesy" which annoyed me. I found a surgeon, in Irving TX, that took my crappy insurance, unbelievably, and he was amazing. I went in on December 11th, and had 23 teeth pulled, and had permanent implants placed on top, (5 posts attached to a bar, its called the Bitelock) and 2 larger posts on the bottoms for the snap in bottom arch. I love the top teeth. The bottoms are more difficult, because you cant snap in the bottom teeth for 4 months to allow the posts to bond with the bone because the bottom bone is softer, so I have an overdenture until then, and I don't like it. Its not awful, but I have to use adhesive, because its not a perfect fit, at least its not painful. I cant wait until April until I can just snap the bottoms in! I only wear the bottom temp denture about 6 hrs a day, and I can chew soft foods. I work at home, so its a bit easier. I've lost weight, food has become a necessary evil, but I know that is only temporary. I've cried, been in pain, and had what felt like someone playing piano on the nerves in my upper jaw. All this is temporary. You must be patient, and it will so be worth it. I cant believe that I even did this. I was lucky in a bad way, that a week before my surgery I got a terrible access and was on antibiotics and pain meds and in SOOO much pain, that I was actually excited to go to surgery just to stop the pain. Don't let anyone tell you its easy. THIS IS NOT EASY. There is pain, swelling, and it is a long recovery. The pain may be manageable, but the way the implants feel takes some getting used to. I still sometimes feel like someone nailed a horseshoe into my upper jaw. I'm posting a pic from the night before surgery and now, 1 month later. I will update again when I get my snap in.

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January 13, 2015

You look absolutely amazing.  Twenty years younger, at least.  I've seen pictures of the bitelock before but you're the first person I'm seeing mention it, I think.  What doctor did you end up using?  I don't want to keep it saying 'ClearChoice', since you didn't go with them.  I also moved you into the new All-on-4 community, because even though you had five posts (did they say why they used 5?) it's most like the all-on-4, so I think you'll help more people there.

I'm so glad you came back and updated, and were so honest about your experience.  I think it's impossible for people to imagine how difficult this is, but seeing lots of reviews that say it's difficult has to help!  Was the pain actually manageable?  Did you have to take strong pain medication?  And for how long?  Thank you!

January 13, 2015
Dr. Pedro Franco, he was mentioned in Dallas Magazine as one of our top Dentists. DFW Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, in Irving TX. As far as the pain goes, I stayed on pain meds for 5 days, (hydrocodone, 325's, taking 1 every 4-6 hrs.) then managed with Advil. Yes, it was manageable. Way easier to deal with than having root-pain. I was in WAY more pain the day before with the infection then the week after. The first and second day are relatively easy, its the 3-5th day that were the hardest. Best to stick to protein shakes the first 3 days, and I also ate broth and applesauce. Its been a month and I still do feel occasional nerve pain, like a toothache, as the posts adapt to the bone, but it is manageable. The Bitelock procedure used 5 posts attached to a bar, its more secure, and the temps last up to 2 years. I wish I could have afforded the procedure on bottom too. I would like to upgrade to the permanent implants on bottom someday.
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January 13, 2015

Thank you for all this extra information!  Are you staying with temps for 2 years, then moving to perms?  I didn't realize there were temps involved for the bitelock.  Was the cost 26K for what you had done, or was that the ClearChoice estimate?

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January 13, 2015

Okay, I put in the doctor's name, and I removed the description you'd put in for ClearChoice.  So please feel free to review your experience with Dr. Franco for others :).  And let me know if for some reason it doesn't give you access.  You can either reply to my comment to PM me.

January 13, 2015
I'm hoping to get my perms in about a year. The costs for the top BiteLock was 19K and the perms will cost me 4K more. The bottoms were only 6K, including the permanent bridge. You don't get a huge choice on the temps, but you can customize the perms more, I'm looking forward to that.
December 24, 2025
Hi you look amazing! Thank you for writing all this it is helping me so very much! I just had 22 teeth pulled and I have to wait for my two post implants for my bottoms in 3-6 months...I'm so scared, did you experience severe bruising?? And I'd like to know if you are still having the nerve pain ? Thank you !!
January 17, 2015
I am really worried about getting them. I was thinking of getting all in 4 permanent on top and snap on 2 post on bottom. I don't know if permanents would be better on top and bottom. How long do the permanents last ?
January 18, 2015
That is exactly what I did. I found through my research, that the bottom jaw is better to hold the snap in than the top, with less problems down the road. The tops that I have now, will last up to 2 years, then the permanent perms will last 10 or more. I don't have my snap ins yet, but I do have the 2 post bottom. My DDS did it so that I can add the 2 more later and make them permanent for less cost. I'd like to do that in 5 years or so, Dealing with the temporary denture while waiting the 4 months for the posts to set is brutal. I hate the temp denture, but at least it doesn't hurt anymore. If you can afford it, I highly recommend doing the perms on top and bottom. I love my top teeth, I'm hoping I'll love the snap ins too when I get them.
January 19, 2015
You look ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!!!! WOW!! What a difference!! You honestly look 15-20 years YOUNGER!! GOOD FOR YOU!!! You are my impetus!!! THANK YOU!!!
January 23, 2015
how much? oh I needhelp so bad! my whole life also caps didnt work . i would love to eat again, where is the office? num.financing
January 23, 2015
Actually the snap in dentures are the most affordable option, I splurged on the permanent tops, wish I could have done both. I'm in TX, there is a place in Arlington called Affordable Dentures, they offer the snap ins, my surgeon was Dr. Franco, in Irving TX, he is awesome. Usually the snap in dentures are about 10-15K, for all, the implant permanents are 25k and up. Worth it though, really really worth it.