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Orthognathic Surgery, Upper and Lower Jaw, Age 29 - Dallas, TX

UPDATED FROM saffronblossom
1 year post

Pictures - Post Surgery

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$45,001
Here are the pics...for some reason they didn't load earlier.

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Matthew Hill

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January 15, 2016
I think you are being so hard on yourself -- you are beautiful! Your chin is NOT too big or too square or too anything! Undoubtedly at some point you will want to do something about your bite to prevent disastrous dental consequences as you age, but aesthetically you look luminous. Your smile lights up a room.
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February 17, 2016
Hi! It's been a long time since I've checked in to RealSelf, so I went looking for you. :). It's wonderful to see the positive changes in your appearance, though disheartening to hear that you're still unhappy with it. I've never seen you pre-surgery and braces, but I prefer your look now to pre-surgery _with_ braces. I think you're beautiful, especially in the shots taking by others. And that's the way others see you. The way you see yourself is too critical! It's all too common, especially here on RealSelf, but I hope that you get used to your new face, and that you find a way to fix the bite issues, maybe further on down the road. Orthodontia and dental medicine are constantly evolving. Some solution may be found, so keep checking. Not obsessively, but just maybe once every five years or so, get an opinion. That worked for my husband, and he avoided jaw surgery completely (his bite isn't perfect but it's much improved), just by waiting another five years and asking a different orthodontist. There is still hope!

Thank you so much for continuing to update your story. It really makes a big difference for others out there who are contemplating this surgery!
June 16, 2016
Wow... the swelling went down so much! Your chin/lower jaw is no longer too wide or long. Looks great!
UPDATED FROM saffronblossom
1 year post

Post-Braces - 1.5 Years Post Surgery Update

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I meant to come back and post when my braces were off, but life got away from me...I had my braces removed on October 2, 22 months after I got them on. My orthodontist recommended against it and said that he would prefer I have a revision surgery, because despite the first surgery and the orthodontia, my bite is still very off. I don't have an open bite any longer, but only my back molars touch; sometimes, they don't touch and only my front teeth touch together. My bite shifts a lot, even though I wear my retainer every night.

My teeth do look great as far as being straight, and I think my orthodontist was fabulous--he was unfailingly kind, sympathetic, and so professional dedicated to doing a good job that I'd recommend him to anyone (if you're in the Allen/McKinney area, his name is Dr. Matthew Hill).

So, I'm pleased with my teeth but not my bite, and I still do really regret the surgery--I went through all of that for nothing, really, and spent a lot of money and time in the process. I have permanent numbness in my chin (pretty much my whole chin--I have directional sensation but that's it), and I also have permanent numbness in a large area of my gums. My lips don't close naturally together, or even close--I have to consciously force them closed to keep my mouth from hanging open. I also feel a lot of tightness in my chin, almost constantly.

While my bite did open up to the normal width (three fingers wide), I still have trouble biting because opening my mouth that wide causes popping and while it doesn't hurt, it's an unpleasant sensation.

As far as my physical appearance, I'm still not pleased with that either (and absolutely am not fishing for compliments!). I think my face was more symmetrical and attractive before, and it's hard for me to look at pictures of myself. I don't hate my face anymore--I've mostly adjusted--but I don't love it like I used to. I've uploaded a few pictures here of the final result--some selfies and then some shots taken by someone else because I don't feel like selfies really capture a face. This could just be because when you have the same face for thirty years, and then it changes, it's a big adjustment and hard to get used to!

I wouldn't necessarily discourage anyone from having this surgery, especially those who are in pain or really suffering about their physical appearance; I've read so many blogs where people had great results and looked amazing after, with amazing function as well. However, I think the key was that my insurance covered very few surgeons in the area, and the one I picked 1) had no bedside manner 2) didn't consider (to my knowledge) that aesthetics are important as well as function. I had a bad feeling about him from the start, and I should have listened to my instincts and gone with another doctor, even if I ended up paying more out of pocket.

Thank you to everyone who has posted and asked questions and said kind things! I appreciate it, and if you're about to have this surgery, know that after the first few weeks it truly does fly by and before you know it, your braces will be off and you won't be thinking about your jaw every five minutes!

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December 12, 2015
Thank you for sharing your story. I honestly think you look great! You have a beautiful smile.
January 8, 2016
Small world - I am in Allen! Who was the surgeon? Sorry to hear that you have had so many problems. I would be very unhappy if my bite wasn't correct after the surgery as that is the point of the whole thing - right?

Thanks for sharing everything.
September 28, 2016
Hi, I'm sure that you don't check this anymore... But I just had this surgery 9 days ago and I only wish that I would have seen this first!! I am older than you however, in my mid 40,s, so I kept trying to think that I am having such a hard time because of my age.... This has been really bad and if we lived in the same area I would think we must have the same surgeon!! I had an apt today and was laying there in tears as well!! Look I had three children with NOTHING for pain and one of them was a 9 lb 5 oz baby!! But this hurts so bad!! My surgeon " accidently" cut up my upper lip with the laser and now I am scared that I will be left with that! I did this for TMJ but also because I have never thought I was attractive and I just wanted to have a beautiful smile. I wish now also that I would not have done this... And that I would have picked a better oral surgeon... They seem to be like politicians.... They are so nice until you are laying there in pain screaming. I am so happy that you are over this now!! I know that you don't like how your lips stay open. Of course that is one of the things that I didn't like about my smile before the surgery and my surgeon told me that would be the hardest thing to fix. I guess I will still have that. Oh well.. I will never do this again!!
UPDATED FROM saffronblossom
6 months post

7 Month Update

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My second-to-last update--the next one will be at a year, which is coming up fast.

I still have my braces on, as none of my back teeth on the right side touch now--it has opened back up but will be fixed by rubber bands. Other than that, my teeth look straight and perfect to me (though they could use a whitening!).

I still have numbness in my chin, lower lip, and upper and lower gums, but it's improving--I'm pretty sure the chin and lower lip will regain full feeling, and the gums at least most of it (the gums are still completely numb in patches).

I'm eating everything I want, even if I'm still not chewing correctly (it's hard when the teeth don't touch on the one side.

My lips still don't touch together at rest, so I know they likely never will and I've accepted that, as it now looks natural when I push them closed (and once the braces come off it will look even better, I think). I really like my profile and my face at rest, lips closed. To me, there is a huge difference even though other people haven't really noticed.

However, I still really hate my smile and can't get used to how my face looks now--my chin is just too full, making my face too square, and I don't like looking at myself. I feel guilty complaining about it, but I still really, really wish I had chosen a surgeon who valued aesthetics along with function, even if it meant I had to save longer for the surgery. I might see a plastic surgeon about it eventually, but will wait until at least the year mark and just try to accept it and not be as vain.

Anyway, just a quick update until the year mark...so even if you're out there feeling like you'll never stop obsessing about your jaw surgery, or your healing, you will!

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January 9, 2015

I'm glad things have improved so much for you.  I'd hate to think you'll smile less after having all of this surgery done.  But it must be very difficult getting used to a new face, even if the difference to those of us on the outside is very slight, and you are still beautiful.  It took me two years to get used to my body after my mommy makeover, and that was way less than changing the face.  So I expect what you're going through isn't unusual.  I hope that you start feeling better about all of that soon. But it's difficult to know how everything will change once the braces come off.  Hopefully that will feel like an improvement for you :D.

Happy New Year to you!

January 12, 2015
need to know your doctor's name. Im flying out to Dallas next week to see a surgeon named Wolford. I was told he is the best doctor besides Sachs in New York.
January 14, 2015
Thank you for your comments on this surgical process. I'm scheduled to have my surgery in few weeks.
December 12, 2015
I hope it went well and everything is back to normal for you now!
February 11, 2015
Your surgeon sounds like a real ass.
December 12, 2015
Haha I can say without reservation he was! And I can honestly say I wasn't being a drama queen because anyone who went to an appointment with me agreed haha.
March 4, 2015
Looking at your before and after, and not knowing you, I honestly think you look better. The before profile pic especially highlights your issues as well as your gummy smile in the face on. I also wonder if you lost a lot of weight? No doubt you did. I see a FAR more beautiful person in the afters - no offense about your previous looks. For the record I have my own issues so I'm aware of aesthetics which is really my only problem. My bite is fine. So I'm telling you this not to make you feel better about the surgery but to be honest. Maybe the effort wasn't worth it to you given what you went through and I understand that, but I'd pick the new you even if not perfect now.
December 12, 2015
Thank you so much for your kind comment! Hearing an unbiased remark like that from someone who doesn't know me does make me feel better. :) I did lose a lot of weight--I started out around 127 and I went down to 111 before it was all done.