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44 and After 4 Kids Needed Nips and Tucks (Tummy Tuck, BA/BL + Medial Thigh Lift) - Traveled Internationally from Asia to LA

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Hi! I'm a healthy, 44-year old working mom of...

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Hi! I'm a healthy, 44-year old working mom of three. I am a US citizen who now lives abroad. My youngest is 6 years old. I am 5'4 and weight 112 lbs. I don't have weight issues (chasing around three kids seems to be enough to burn the calories) but I don't get to exercise either. (This is part of my "step two...") For years, I've been thinking of getting a little cosmetic surgery help to improve four things that bother me.

First, due primarily to my pregnancies, my stomach had some laxity. Generally, I could wear a bikini and it was OK, but it was a little poofy...It was mainly in private situations when it was hanging down that I would feel embarrassed. My husband never said anything, but I felt like things could be improved on that front...

Second, my breasts had all fullness of before I had kids. I had always been smallish, but when I put on my wedding dress, there is this big empty space where the bust is. Hope my kids have that additional point or two of IQ that I was promised from all those years of breast feeding!

Third, there was laxity on my inner thighs that was visible when I wore a swim suit and in private moments. Again, I think I noticed it more than anyone else...

Finally, I've always liked to wear sleeveless and shoulder-baring tops, and my upper arms have had minor stretch marks and laxity since puberty, and they've probably gotten worse as I've gotten older.

I've always worked full time. I used to work in the US, but now I live abroad in a developed country. You hear all about medical tourism and how the doctors are great and also cheap, but when I did extensive research in my region (Asia), it was clear that the US is the place to go for doctors with experience and expertise in body-related cosmetic surgery. For me, I'd much rather spend a lot more money (including transportation, accommodations, etc.) to go with doctors who know what theyre doing. That's my background.

20 days ago, I had a tummy tuck, BA with lift and thigh lift in LA. Here are some things I wish I had done differently. If you're reading this, you would, by definition, avoid some of these...

1. Do more research.
2. Take more time off from work and remain close to my doctor's office longer.
3. Not plan any travel for at least 4 weeks after the surgery.
4. Wear the compression outfit without the big hole in the bottom/ tell the doctor to provide a compression outfit without the big hole in the bottom - the one I was put in originally had hooks and zippers on the sides and went down past my knees. There were two problems with it. First, the reinforced hole for going to the bathroom was too large and crossed the area of stitches where the tigh lift was done. Therefore, the edge of the hole rubbed against the stitches irritating that area and prolonging healing there. In addition, the compression garment hole in that area made it so that thigh lift area made it so that some of the stitches were under the garment and the there was a bulge of my thigh closer to my crotch that stuck out of the garment resulting in uneven compression for my thigh lift. Second, the tightness of the compression garment below my knees on my calves was uncomfortable and started to give me a rash, particularly annoying when trying to fall asleep.
5. Ask the doctor and pay for a second compression outfit so that I could have one to wear while washing the other.
6. Ensure a good supply of Neosporin, gauze (bid and small squares and rectangles) and rubbing alcohol and band aids and surgical tape. When strange bonobos appear from having your tubes rubbing against you, you get bruises and scrapes and its bice to just slap a band aid on these and let them heal so you can focus on the real recovery.
7. Buy Milk of Magnesia in advance. I didn't go to the bathroom for four + days and was starting to think I needed to go to the hospital. I can't find MOM here in Asia and sure wish I had some!
8. A more supportive bed with one of those stuffed pillows with the arms that you have in college - wish I had gotten one of those!
9. I wish I had taken more "before" photos.

Now, what worked out well? Most of this was serendipity, btw...

1. Really wonderful caretaker away from all children and responsibilities for about 2 weeks.
2. Really understanding husband who took the kids away so I could focus on recovery.
3. Keeping drains in (this is a tbd) but after having three drains in initially, i had one removed in Los Angeles and I ended up returning to Asia with two drains still in. They are a huge hassle and I hate them. I removed one with my surgeon's approval at the 2 week mark. I still have one in.
4. Having one of those name badge cords/ necklaces you get at conferences to hang my drains when I shower or change clothes.
5. Putting Neosporin on weird boo boos, scrapes and rashes that have developed on my abdomen around the top of my rib cage where the top of the compression garment rubs or by the ends of my thigh lift stitches.
6. Buying this oil changer funnel for $1.19 from Walgreens that I still use to go #1.
7. Getting my toes pedicured right prior to the surgery so they make me happy whenever I look down at my tummy :)
8. Taking a 2-4 hour nap in the middle of the day for the first week - turned off all phones, etc. also wore ear plugs at night.
9. Washing hands religiously and using alcohol whenever going close to my stitches or drains.
10. Still on antibiotics until drains are completely removed. No infections (knock on wood).
11. Not going out. I went to work one day after 2 weeks and decided to work from home after that so I could lie down, wear a loose t- shirt, sit on the toilet for an hour to wait for a miracle, etc. I've read a lot of doctor responses saying you can return to a desk job after 10 - 14 days. My experience is that that is not realistic. If for no other reason, it takes a while to get in and out of the compression outfit if and when you go to the bathroom, and you don't want it touching the unsanitary floor or walls of the public bathroom. Also, it hurts / is uncomfortable to sit down and get up, and if you're like me, I'm still hunched over because it's uncomfortable to walk straight up from the tummy tuck. So save yourself some grief and don't push yourself to go to parties or restaurants or the office too early.
12. Letting my kids know in advance that I had a big boo boo so they couldn't jump on me or hug too hard.
13. Drinking lots of water.
14. Using suppository laxatives for the first five days.
15. Video recording the nurse and doctor when they were changing bandages, milking drains and removing drains so I could do it myself later.
16. Picked a surgeon who responds to email immediately so I'm not fretting...
17. This one is my favorite. I asked the doctor for lives references so that I had someone to talk with before and after the surgery. My contact was a great source of support!

Photos are of:
1. How I look after about 16 days post surgery. Still is strained on right leg so that's why it's bent. Also, breasts look uneven because I'm holding the iPad.
2. The handy funnel I bought.
3. The second drain that we (mainly my husband - how romantic!) removed ourselves. Yes- those things are long. From th black stitches all the way to the end of the white rectangular rubber is all inside the body!

Will post more updates and photos later.

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March 22, 2014
Congrats!! Can't wait to see your updates fellow Barbie!
March 26, 2014
You are the poster girl for the BBL! I just talked with someone on the phone and told them to check out your blog. Hope all continues to go smoothly!
March 26, 2014
Hahaha!! Thanks so much fellow Barbie!!! Wooooooo!!!! I'm jumping up and down in my head for u!! U look soooo awesome!!!! Congrats!! I so hope u continue to remain in great spirits and heal!! U are going to feel like a goddess when u slip into that first perfect dress that hugs ur curves n all the right places! Hey that's y we do it! I'm too excited for u!! Hugs:)
July 16, 2015
This is exactly what i'm looking at having done... do you mind giving me an estimate of the cost for all of this?
September 16, 2016
Very thorough and sound review. Really helped to paint a picture of what to expect.
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September 20, 2017
How are your scars doing?
UPDATED FROM circus ringmaster
22 days post

Why I Traveled 10,000 Miles to Get PS in Los Angeles - The Good and Bad of Traveling for Plastic Surgery

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Why I traveled 10,000 miles to get plastic surgery. I made an explicit decision to travel for this procedure. The reason was that, although there are world-renown surgeons in Asia, they just don't have the volume and experience that they do in the US. Plus, there isn't the volume of feedback on surgeons that there are on US surgeons. I just didn't want to "chance" it. That said, I would use the same logic for any place in the US that doesn't have the volume. I only have one body and set of skin, and I didn't want to regret having gone to the wrong surgeon over a few thousand dollars. I spend a lot of money taking the kids on vacation, and my husband just got a new hot motorcycle, and I spend thousands of dollars on lessons and camp for the kids - why not do what's absolutely the best for me? So I decided to go to LA for my surgery and take the time to do it. (In the end, I wish I had taken even more time...)

There are lots of considerations of doing this. You have to have a place to stay. Using AirBNB or something like that is really great and can be cheap and you have access to a kitchen, bath, etc. If you go to a place like LA, there are cheap options. This can actually be a blessing in disguise - you can choose a place close to your surgeon and easily see your surgeon in person if you need to.

You also have to have a caretaker. You basically need someone who can help you get up, walk around, help you with the bathroom (thankfully, not wiping, though that's a challenge, too), and buying you meds, supplies and food (and preparing food) when you need it. If you're going to LA, there is a high supply of service sector folks, and the cost isn't that exorbitant.

In many ways, having this cocoon of time and space to be alone and to recover is ideal, if you can afford it financially and from a time-away-from-family-and-work perspective. Just doing the basic things like going to the bathroom or trying to put your compression garment on are somewhat undignified processes that you may not want your hubby or kids seeing you do. Being by yourself, you can limp around mid-bathroom attempt with your compression outfit half off trying to get that People magazine realizing that you'll be on the toilet for a lot longer than you originally anticipated. As opposed to (now that I'm home with my family) being called upon and having the bathroom door opened about four times while trying to get the trains moving down below...During the first few days, I must have peed all over myself, the bathroom and my compression garment at least once a day. The process of removing the garment, washing the garment, drying the garment, putting the gauzes back on the body, milking/squeezing out the drains, etc. putting the compression garment back on - took about 2 hours. Now - with three kids - I can't think of one situation when I've had two hours to myself without being asked to do things for the kids. Being by yourself (and your caretaker) is just a lot more...civilized. Also, I don't know about you, but being able to ask someone else to take photos of places I can't see (and not have it be my husband) is a blessing, since at the end of the day, part of this process was to increase the "romance" in my life...

Another bonus is that I was able catch up on lots of movies I've been wanting to see for a long time. Since it hurts like crazy to laugh, I have to say that I busted a gut laughing at some of this - but comic humor is good, also!

A final consideration is there's the travel back to wherever you're coming from. For me, having a 24 hour flight back home, it was critical to have an upgraded class for travel. But if I were going less than 4 hours or so, I could have done it in coach. Sitting is somewhat painful, but the meds make it bearable. I've seen questions about traveling by car for a few hours vs. traveling by plane for 1 hour. Honestly, as long as you've had at least a week of recovery time, probably either is fine. It's getting up and down (from sitting position) that hurts a lot. Also, going to the bathroom is challenging. So whether you're driving (hopefully, it's not you doing the actual driving), you're going to be uncomfortable while sitting and trying to go to the bathroom.

If flying - getting wheelchair assistance curb to curb was essential. I called the airline in advance and got their reassurance. Limping slowly into the terminal made it easy for the people at the counter to come running toward me asking me if I needed help. The manager of the check in counter personally wheeled in my 200+ lbs of luggage and took care of me. The airport wheelchair assistance took care of all of me and all of my carry ons (which included a garment bag and huge carry on). They were all very service-oriented. You get to short cut all of the lines (although sometimes it takes a while anyway).

Hope this helps for those considering traveling for surgery...

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March 24, 2014
What a thoroughly and totally awesome review! I don't know how long it took you to type this up, but I thank you from the bottom of my heart! You are going to help SO many other women. Especially those traveling for their surgeries. I'd love more updates as you continue to heal. Hope you are able to get that last drain out soon!
March 26, 2014
Thank you - drain is out! I feel like I should have a major celebration!
March 26, 2014
Hahaha! U shld! Post the ahem cupcake! No no protein shake w fun straw so we can celebrate w u. Lol congrats!
March 25, 2014
I -too- flew into town to see Dr. Hughes --he is awesome and so accommodating and thoughtful. That DOES NOT SURPRISE me that you had am email from him waiting for you, to check on how you were feeling! I know that made you feel good. He does EXCELLENT work and gets even better results--but at the same time, all his work is so personalized. I'm happy for you! {{hugs!}}
March 26, 2014
I went on your blog - you look great! Congrats on taking on so much at once and having such a great, positive attitude. Keep turning heads!
UPDATED FROM circus ringmaster
25 days post

Last Drain is Out! Bride of Frankenstein is Feeling Less and Less So...

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Hi friends!

It's been 3 weeks and 4 days since I had my tummy tuck, breast augmentation and lift and thigh lift. Since I didn't do it before my surgery, I now read realself at night on my iPad trying to get to sleep. I think that if I had known all the complications that can arise, I would have chickened out! I have to say, I think that it takes a lot of courage for those women who have had complications to share everything - their emotions, their feelings about their decision, etc. It's a big decision, your body is really important, how you feel about yourself...

So I didn't take many "before" pictures, but I dug up some befores that I had sent to doctors when I was first looking into this. I had always thought that my body was "cute" and attractive - a little worn out from life and pregnancies - but cute enough. Fortunately, my husband agreed (or he said he thought so). Just today, he was telling me that my body was really cute before, and that he's looking forward to my new body, also. (What a champ!) Then, I looked at my old photos, and thought - Oh my God - I had some serious droopy and lopsided boobs and muffin top. Is my husband delusional (or an amazing liar) or just really really really nice? Believe me, I'm not an heiress or anything, so he really doesn't have to lie. It's a good thing I believed him and that I didn't spend a lot of time looking at my own pictures, because I would have been a lot more self-conscious! Here are some before pictures, and then the ones in the bikini are the afters. Bear in mind, for those of you who have visions of Jo-Lo or Kim Kardashian dancing in your heads - that I actually like my square-shaped body, minimal bust and flat butt. (My husband loves those big butts, but that's just not me...) So I had to repeatedly tell Dr. Hughes about that - and he kept his promise to not make me something that I'm not...

Also, the big news is that I got the doc's OK to pull the drains! Again, I can't say enough about Dr. Hughes' responsiveness. I write an email, and I usually get a response within a few minutes (I'm in Asia, so I'm not usually writing during California business hours when he's supposed to be working). The email goes directly to him, so there isn't a gatekeeper receptionist who slows down the response time.

Other than that, breasts and tummy are really getting there. I started massaging my breasts last night, and not only is it kind of fun, but it does make a difference in how they feel in the AM. The thigh lift incisions are still healing. I'm still moving slowly. Worked like a demon this past few days trying to meet a deadline. Came home one day and literally collapsed on the floor and was crashed until I heard one of my kids in the kitchen. Re. travel - I ended up canceling three trips (Cambodia, India and Hong Kong) over the past two weeks because I underestimated recovery time, and the last thing I wanted was to be the dumb American who had to be medi-vac-ed out of Angkor Wat because her plastic surgery stitches split open.

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March 26, 2014
Great review, thank you for taking the time to be so thorough! I too had a medial thigh lift; I am 11 days post-op medial thigh lift and implants. There isn't much info on here about the medial thigh lift. I don't have a whole lot of pain from that procedure, more discomfort. However, when getting in and out of my truck I DO have pain and sitting…my incisions go just barely onto my butt cheeks and when I sit, the tip of the incisions are right where I sit on my butt bones…YOUCHY! Thank you for the advice about the compression garment; I too am having problems with the hole in the crotch. My postop visit isn't for another week, so if he says I have to still wear it, I will be asking for one without the hole in the crotch. How long did it take for your groin incisions to heal? Also, how long did you "morning boob" for? My boobs feel so hard and the morning is the only time they hurt. And do your boobs itch? Thanks again for the wonderfully thorough review!
March 26, 2014
Thank you for your comment. I agree with you - there isn't very much information on the trials and tribulations of the medial thigh lift - so maybe I should write something. Of the three areas that the surgeon worked on, I think the medial thigh lift was the one that surprised me the most in that it (apparently) takes a lot of surgical skill and (for me at least) takes the longest from which to recover. My breasts didn't hurt and are healing rapidly. Recently, I started to massage them the way the nurse showed, lying down, using both hands and firmly (but not too hard) holding them on either side of each breast and rubbing them one direction and then changing directions (like clockwise and then counter clockwise). She said that it's to ensure that the implant has enough room on top and on bottom to not get lumpy. (I'm paraphrasing here.) I noticed a difference first thing in the morning of a softer feel, the implant more integrated into my own tissue. Try it! The tummy tuck progressed well and immediately looked good. It's scabby right now, but I have a good feeling that the scar is going to be slight. For the thigh lift, since the idea is to pull your skin tight where it was saggy before, by definition, it feels tight (and sometimes hurts) to do things like bend down or bend my leg. Getting in and out of cars still takes a while for me. Also, sitting on the toilet is painful, because that's exactly where the stitches are. If I have to sit for a while, it's my thigh lift stitches that dislike it the most. For that reason, I am using suppositories every few days if I don't have a BM. Finally, the compression garment that I was originally wearing crossed right where the incisions were, and I think that irritated the incisions a bit. I changed to Xess Shapewear (which doesn't have hooks and zippers, so you have to pull it up) but you get the hang of it. The hole is more like the hole in men's boxers but made of nylon, and so it doesn't stay open and doesn't rub the way the regular compression garment does. After a number of mishaps, I got the hang of how to put the funnel through the hole so that everything stays clean and dry! Did you have a tummy tuck? Good luck!
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March 26, 2014
I had a TT 14 months ago, this surgery was 2nd (& final) stage. My 1st stage was 14 months ago, I had a TT & breast reduction; 12 days ago I had a medial thigh lift & implants. Are your Thigh lift incisions STILL healing? I have switched to a CG without a hole, this morning, & already feel some relief. Monday & Tuesday I was back to my normal routine (except going to the gym) & decided last night I overdid it. Hadn't been in pain yet since surgery til last night. Have been in bed all day today & feel better.
March 27, 2014
So glad you are in a new compression garment. Makes a big difference. On my upper thigh that didn't rub against the compression garment crotch hole, it's been great since week 2. On the other side, all of it is closed up. Part of it looks terrific, and you cant even see a scar because it blends into the crease line. There is a small section that is still going through the scabby stage. And then there is where my drain was that is also in the healing scabby stage. Everything is progressing well - no complications or infections (knock on wood!) - takes a little time but it's actually amazing how quickly it progresses in light of everything done! Keep in touch!
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March 26, 2014
44? Where? Greasy Review
March 31, 2014
I feel like a grandmother who can't work the remote, but is "greasy" good? :)
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March 31, 2014
That was suppose to say great review. I'm sorry, so yes, in this case greasy is good. Lol. (These smart phones)
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March 26, 2014
you look amazing!!! Congrats on your new body! thank you so much for taking the time to write this review... it really helps those of us who are having our surgeries in the next few months : )
March 27, 2014
Glad it's useful! It is a big decision!