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41 and Tired of Looking Tired | Eyelids and TCA peel - Columbus, OH
UPDATED FROM Anon352358
2 years post
Almost 3 years later..
$3,500
Still not happy with the lowers but wanted to post some updated pics.
Oddly, some of the pics when taken in the direct sunlight look ok- and some look terrible. But they are still wrinkled even if it’s not extremely visible.
Oddly, some of the pics when taken in the direct sunlight look ok- and some look terrible. But they are still wrinkled even if it’s not extremely visible.
UPDATED FROM Anon352358
2 years post
2 years later....
At 2 years post surgery, I still have good and bad days. I'm not sure if diet or environment has any influence, but looking back on some photos, there are definitely some that are way worse than others. But the one consistant issue (one of my original complaints) is the wrinkles under my eyes. In some pics they look terrible!!! And in others, not so bad. That's why I'm not sure if it's lighting, environmental or even dietary that may cause the fluctuation. I will post a few recent pics and then a pre surgery / 2 yr post side-by-side.
I would LOVE to get rid of my wrinkles once and for all, but am not willing to undergo another bleph to try. I've used renova for 6 months but it doesn't look like it works. I'm kind of at a loss now. I'd love to hear from others who've had similar experiences. This site is so wonderful for sharing these personal experiences.
I would LOVE to get rid of my wrinkles once and for all, but am not willing to undergo another bleph to try. I've used renova for 6 months but it doesn't look like it works. I'm kind of at a loss now. I'd love to hear from others who've had similar experiences. This site is so wonderful for sharing these personal experiences.
Replies (5)
August 14, 2017
I think you look really good! But i feel for you regardibg your long journey with these various eye surgeries. Are the bumps gone on eyelids and is there any irritation in the eyes now?

August 15, 2017
Thanks AstridTau! The little bumps I was mostly worried about are not nearly as bad as they were. It doesn't look as smooth as pre-surgery- but a definite improvement.
There is a little bump below my lower lash line just below the skins surface. I believe it is scar tissue from the lower bleph. But that is visible too (some days its more pronounced than others). I don't really have too much irritation issues any longer (thank goodness). Lesson learned with cosmetic surgery....time is your friend!
There is a little bump below my lower lash line just below the skins surface. I believe it is scar tissue from the lower bleph. But that is visible too (some days its more pronounced than others). I don't really have too much irritation issues any longer (thank goodness). Lesson learned with cosmetic surgery....time is your friend!
August 23, 2017
Are you happy with your upper eyelids?

August 28, 2017
Jarry1- if I could travel back in time and know what I know now, I would not have had the surgery. There is not a significant improvement (not nearly enough for all I've gone through). I am disappointed. But, I have seen others here that have had beautiful outcomes. I posted my journey as a reminder to others that there is no guarantee.
September 5, 2017
You got an upper and lower bleth for less than what I paid for just my lower - but it seems like the dr wasn't worth it! I'm sorry you had to go thru this - nothing is more disappointing then saving your money to do something special for yourself and end up feeling worse afterwards. The fad pads under your eyes look more prominent now than in the before - not sure if that is the surgery or just a couple years of aging. You might be able to soften that indent with a little filler - in the hands of the right person! For the fine lines have you ever tried one or two units of botox under the eye and also getting microneedling treatments? Peels under the eyes work temporarily but then tend to dry out the skin and the lines come back. Microneedling builds collagen and thickens the skin. Renova might do more harm than good too if its too strong for the delicate eye area. You still look beautiful - you have a lovely full face and great skin. I think you are right to avoid another bleth

September 5, 2017
Yes ...I agree that after saving up, the results just aren't what I hoped for *sigh*
The lowers (which is /was my biggest complaint visually) are what I would love to "fix". I just don't know what the best course of action would be. I've read and researched til I've exhausted myself. The delicate area makes me very nervous to try most everything. I still have some irritating sensations in my lower inner lid- so I may find another doc to assess and offer suggestions. The easiest thing would just to quit being so hard on myself and just age naturally- but that also makes me want to cry when looking in the mirror and at pics. Ugh!!!
September 6, 2017
LOL, I've tried to accept aging naturally a few times and I am just unable to do it. Women get treated much differently than men do past a certain age. Once you look "older" you are treated irrelevant by most of society - so its in our interest to stay as youthful as we can for as long as we can BUT using caution not to cross the line into doing too much and looking odd or overdone. You've tried surgery, so try some none invasive daily practices that may help - microcurrent therapy and hyaluronic acid could also do alot to soften lines and reduce puffiness.
September 6, 2017
I can relate to your roller coaster ride as I am on my own! I've had a few bad experiences with filler for the tear trough area and have much spent time and money and pretty much ended up with a lot of angst instead of a great result. For what it's worth, I also think you look great overall though it really does not matter what others think if you don't like what you see. We all tend to zero in on what we don't like rather than look at our overall appearance and it's hard to not get obsessed.
I do see the wrinkling you are talking about but it's not terrible. Was laser resurfacing ever recommended? I believe that is supposed to address that area by tightening the skin. Also, have you consulted with an oculoplastic surgeon?
September 6, 2017
PS sorry if any of this was already discussed but it's hard to weed through all the posts.

September 11, 2017
He did a chemical peel that was *supposed* to take care of the wrinkles. I don't think he applied very much if at all because I had a "mask" where he applied to the rest of my face- looked like I had goggles on (I also had a full face TCA peel at the time of surgery). I'm just really over it- I don't have high hopes that anyone can fix it; and I'm not willing to sink thousands more into another potential short term fix.
September 14, 2017
I think you look great. Your uppers have a terrific improvement post surgery and the lowers have a modest improvement. Some under eye wrinkles are normal for mid 40s. You could try a little fat or restylane in your upper cheeks to see if you like results but you already have very full cheeks. Honestly, I think you are just being hard on yourself. We are our own worst critic.
January 28, 2018
I think you look great in your 2 yr. post surgery pics! (So sorry that you had to go thru all the problems in healing.) Overall, for the procedures that you had done on your face & eyes, you actually healed faster than some other people that I have seen. (Some could not go out of the house for 3 weeks!)
UPDATED FROM Anon352358
9 months post
Doc suggests another bleph to correct the first one
I am 7 months post surgery and not happy with my results. I've had conversations with my surgeon and he is very empathetic towards the situation, and has suggested to do a Transcutaneous bleph to correct the Transconjunctival procedure I had done.
I am scared that I will undergo a more complex, invasive surgery that does not guarantee the result I want and not only lose more money (the costs to pay him, lost wages, and prescriptions) but not get the result I am looking for. I am not one of those very picky people, and have realistic expectations- but, I am not convinced this is the right way to go.
Another surgeon with his practice also concurred that the Transcutaneous bleph is the right solution. However, he also eluded that a fat transfer may be beneficial - but followed that up with "it is only a camouflage technique; not a permanent solution". I don't think I have a lot of excess skin that needs removed. I think I need something below it to fill it out. When I was swollen after the first surgery, it looked great - and then after the swelling subsided, the wrinkles returned and the indentations were visible again. That is why I am skeptical of doing another bleph. But what do I know? I am not a doctor.
Along with that major disappointment, I have some other areas that I am not happy with either. The upper right eye has a "fat pocket" near the scar line that looks terrible. I have a visible difference in skin tone and color where the full face chemical peel was missed on the bridge of my nose. They don't seem concerned with correcting that. Thank goodness it can be camouflaged with enough makeup.
I am happy with the upper portion of my left eye. The scar lines healed great, except I have 3 little bumps near the corner of my eye that will not flatten. The doc said they aren't significant enough to do anything about fixing. I disagree.
Also, a side note: There was nerve damage when the upper was done. It feels numbish when any part of my forehead is touched or pressed and on up into my hairline. I was told feeling would return in 9-12 months due to the slow regrowth of the cells. I am in the 7th month and it is still numb. Hopefully the feeling will come back in the next few months. Has anyone else encountered this?
If anyone has a similar circumstance, I would love to hear from you.
I am scared that I will undergo a more complex, invasive surgery that does not guarantee the result I want and not only lose more money (the costs to pay him, lost wages, and prescriptions) but not get the result I am looking for. I am not one of those very picky people, and have realistic expectations- but, I am not convinced this is the right way to go.
Another surgeon with his practice also concurred that the Transcutaneous bleph is the right solution. However, he also eluded that a fat transfer may be beneficial - but followed that up with "it is only a camouflage technique; not a permanent solution". I don't think I have a lot of excess skin that needs removed. I think I need something below it to fill it out. When I was swollen after the first surgery, it looked great - and then after the swelling subsided, the wrinkles returned and the indentations were visible again. That is why I am skeptical of doing another bleph. But what do I know? I am not a doctor.
Along with that major disappointment, I have some other areas that I am not happy with either. The upper right eye has a "fat pocket" near the scar line that looks terrible. I have a visible difference in skin tone and color where the full face chemical peel was missed on the bridge of my nose. They don't seem concerned with correcting that. Thank goodness it can be camouflaged with enough makeup.
I am happy with the upper portion of my left eye. The scar lines healed great, except I have 3 little bumps near the corner of my eye that will not flatten. The doc said they aren't significant enough to do anything about fixing. I disagree.
Also, a side note: There was nerve damage when the upper was done. It feels numbish when any part of my forehead is touched or pressed and on up into my hairline. I was told feeling would return in 9-12 months due to the slow regrowth of the cells. I am in the 7th month and it is still numb. Hopefully the feeling will come back in the next few months. Has anyone else encountered this?
If anyone has a similar circumstance, I would love to hear from you.
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February 15, 2016
I am so on the fence now after reading your story. I am 46 and my eyes puff so bad. I recently lost a ton of weight so now the only thing that Shows my age are these puffy eyes. My bf is 45 and he doesn't have them. I was looking up ways to prevent the bags and came across the surgery,of which I got really happy, then saw your story.....Ouch and ouch...
Still waiting on a miracle for under eye puffiness....Maybe I will just do the extra pillow and a ton more water. I thought right after surgery your eyes looked amazing........:-)
Still waiting on a miracle for under eye puffiness....Maybe I will just do the extra pillow and a ton more water. I thought right after surgery your eyes looked amazing........:-)
February 18, 2016
Hi there! I understand your dilemma of hesitation. I have seen many people with amazing results and honestly was soothed by that when making my decision. I was pretty optimistic about the results and after seeing the final, then became realistic about how I was going to look. I know there are no guarantees - I just hoped for the best. I shared my story not to bash the doctor or procedure (he's had many beautiful results on other people) but to give an unbiased opinion and experience of what could happen. We are all different and heal different. Unfortunately I didn't get those amazing results as hoped for. I do believe there are many more happy patients than disgruntled for whatever that's worth! I wish you well in what ever you decide!
June 25, 2017
good luck , and I think your doctors duty of care is very poor! Maybe a second /third oppion is the way to go .
February 8, 2017
I experienced nerve damage after a bunionectomy and nose job in my early 20's. I lost feeling in little areas near each surgery. I was advised that the nerve would regrow and begin functioning after a year. Sadly, it was not true.
May 6, 2017
I know when you look closely you may see imperfections but I want you to know I think there is still a big improvement. You look very beautiful! Your skin is so smooth and your eyes opened so much. To me there is less overall puffiness under neath your eyes and your pores are smaller. Your skin looks amazing! I am a cosmetologist for 27 years now. I see women up close, their skin and hair, and how they complement her appearance. In my professional opinion, you look much younger than before your procedure. I am also 45 now and can see age changing my face. I think you should be proud of yourself because you took a leap of faith to take care of you! You really do look younger and really attractive!
July 11, 2017
Hey pretty girl - yours is an interesting story because it sure seems like you were the perfect candidate for a beautiful outcome. I don't think you look worse, but I understand why you feel your results are a bit underwhelming and not what you envisioned when you had the surgery.
What I don't understand is why you originally went to a PS who does body work to perform surgery on your face? I felt compelled to write because you are considering going back to this practice for corrective work! Please - if you feel you need revision surgery find a PS who specializes in the face. I realize an occuplastic surgeon is hard to come by, but I think a person is taking real risks letting someone who is knee deep in breast augmentation and tummy tucks work on the face. Often people make choices based on the surgeon being near them or cheaper and that is definitely not the way to go. When I decided to have a lower facelift I traveled to another state for the procedure because I wanted the best outcome and the fastest healing time. I realize money is an issue here, and you like your doctor as a person - but read some of the reviews from people who have had disfiguring results from eye surgeries. If the doctor has suggested more fat, why not try an under eye filler? Yes its temporary, but its also reversible if you don't like the results of extra fullness under the eye. Also consider that eye surgery results are not forever and if you have the propensity for bags under the eye you will probably have this return in the future and may need a second surgery. I had a lower bleth done ten years ago and now I have some hollowing under my eyes again...however I choose to use filler to camoflage because I don't want to take the risk of ruining my eyes. If it gets really bad I might consider a second surgery, but it will be with someone who specializes in the eyes. Please be very careful about who you choose to do your revision. You are a pretty woman and I would hate to see you end up with a result that ruins your self esteem.
What I don't understand is why you originally went to a PS who does body work to perform surgery on your face? I felt compelled to write because you are considering going back to this practice for corrective work! Please - if you feel you need revision surgery find a PS who specializes in the face. I realize an occuplastic surgeon is hard to come by, but I think a person is taking real risks letting someone who is knee deep in breast augmentation and tummy tucks work on the face. Often people make choices based on the surgeon being near them or cheaper and that is definitely not the way to go. When I decided to have a lower facelift I traveled to another state for the procedure because I wanted the best outcome and the fastest healing time. I realize money is an issue here, and you like your doctor as a person - but read some of the reviews from people who have had disfiguring results from eye surgeries. If the doctor has suggested more fat, why not try an under eye filler? Yes its temporary, but its also reversible if you don't like the results of extra fullness under the eye. Also consider that eye surgery results are not forever and if you have the propensity for bags under the eye you will probably have this return in the future and may need a second surgery. I had a lower bleth done ten years ago and now I have some hollowing under my eyes again...however I choose to use filler to camoflage because I don't want to take the risk of ruining my eyes. If it gets really bad I might consider a second surgery, but it will be with someone who specializes in the eyes. Please be very careful about who you choose to do your revision. You are a pretty woman and I would hate to see you end up with a result that ruins your self esteem.
July 12, 2017
Hi honey. Your eye situation looks like mine. I have hashimotos and am hypothyroid. Have you ever had your thyroid tested?? It causes fluid build up like we both have. Some people confuse it with fat. If my meds and levels are okay my eyes go down to almost normal. Check it out before you do anything more please, just so you aren't throwing your money and time away.

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Thankfully you are young and cute so aside from a little puffiness under your eye, you look fine, but I do understand your frustration. What I don't understand is the doctor asking you if he could move the fat around your lower lid.
I too had fat pads removed from my eye via laser. It did remove the excessive fat and I was relieved. As far as wrinkles go I have them and as far as I can tell there isn't much we can do about it, but they will tell try to get you to spend your money.