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Considering Upper Lid Retraction Repair After Second Tarsorrhaphy - Cleveland, OH
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Somebody, please read my story. I cannot find the...
Somebody, please read my story. I cannot find the answers I seek anywhere, and I just want my story be HEARD and LISTENED TO. I've searched the internet for any stories like mine and have found nothing. Please help me.
"You have the most striking eyes I've ever seen" was the first thing my last boyfriend ever said to me.
My eyes, to me, represented my power, my importance; getting people to look into them was always my goal. I sought connection, and that was my absolute gift with people. I always felt my eyes were my strongest asset, since my nose had developed dorsal deformities that worsened with age. You definitely never realize what you have until it's gone..
My relationship with that boy lasted three years, during which I was diagnosed with Graves disease, had a thyroid that measured 4 times the normal limit, and received a nuclear ablation to destroy my thyroid gland. After six months of waiting for my metabolism to slow completely down, I was elated to finally be put on a dose of synthroid. I was wearing a lot of extra weight, and was very puffy in the face, which is when my boyfriend decided to end things. Spiraling into depression, I moved to Europe for a semester to pursue a minor.
It had been about a year since my thyroid had slowed completely when I started to notice that my dosages were suddenly off. My face got extremely puffy, I had unexplained weight gain and pressure behind my eyes, dark bags underneath them, and excess fluid in my face (I looked old/sagging skin). The second group of photos below were taken of me while I was experiencing this discomfort. I eventually went to a foreign endocrine, who told me my thyroid was too slow, and I was put on a higher dose of levothyroxine, since synthroid did not exist in the country I was residing in.
When I got back to the States, my ex and father both asked if I was punch in the eye. My left eye looked lazy, but when I went to the eye doctor, they told me that my right eye had actually been pushed forward about a millimeter, with my upper lid pulled up. I was horrified. I had never heard of "thyroid eye disease". All I could do was wait until it was considered "post-inflammatory" to discuss surgical options. It was more noticeable in photos than anything, and being an aspiring actress, I was so disheartened. I tried to conceal what I could with make up, but it was completely futile, I stopped looking people in the eyes altogether.
After two long years, the inflammatory stage of my disease had run it's course and I was ready to discuss operating. I decided on the least intrusive approach, called a tarsorraphy, where they sutcher the outtermost corner of the eye shut slightly to make the whites of the eyes a little less noticeable.
Apparently people get this procedure while awake, but it was agreed upon that I would be put under a local anesthetic, or a "twilight" for the procedure, since I have such sensitivity to pain. Apparently that did not knock me out enough, because Graves patients eat the twilight much faster than normal patients, and I kept waking up combatively during the procedure (I had no recollection of this). The result was bruising that lasted a month, and the inability to drive for the first week and a half. The pictures below will show you how the bruising was not that terrible directly following the procedure, and that my eyes actually looked symmetrical for the first time in years! But as I healed, the swelling went down, my eyes were still asymmetrical once again, and the bruising just got uglier. When I finally healed, my eyes were still as they were before, with only slight improvement (pictures below).
My friends and family all said how they couldn't notice any asymmetry at all and how my eyes were beautiful they way they were and to just leave them alone.
How can anybody understand how this feels? To not recognize the face you were born with when you look in the mirror. To feel like a monster. I have not dated since that last relationship; after graduating from a prestigious university and good grades with a very translatable communications degree, I've been living at home with my parents in the house I grew up in, unemployed, and have not dated or had romantic interactions with anybody in three years. This is emotionally debilitating and nobody is supportive or understanding. When it's not YOUR face why should you care if it's not symmetrical? How would you feel if every time you went through old photos with people they told you how you looked like a completely different and unrecognizable person three years ago?
I decided to undergo a second tarsorraphy after consulting with my surgeon whosaid he's never had a patient go back on a second tarsorraphy (*it's the least intrusive option because it is reversible). This time I was put completely under full anesthetic, and there were absolutely no complications, I didn't even need Tylenol (I can't take anything with codeine in it without puking) after day 1. I had almost no bruising. But here's where I'm at now (photos below).
I've had one post operative appointment since the second tarsorraphy where I was told I won't be able to discuss another surgery for at least six weeks, so from this point in time that I'm writing this post, about a month.
My mother is pushing therapy on me, which is hard. She says "it's your eye, then your nose, is it ever going to all be okay?". I understand her concerns, thinking I have some psychological obsessive disorder. But I've been through entirely too much therapy in the past three years and here I am completely debilitated on the couch, no friends, no job, no romantic prospects of any kind, trying to figure out how much longer I'll have to stay here and recover from surgeries. Sure I want to get out of here and start working a job, but I want this problem fixed. I've worked all the low wage customer service non-degree jobs, and I'm so tired of thinking my intelligence, my degree, all that time spent was wasted, and that I'm ugly and that fifteen different therapists couldn't diagnose me with any psychologically debilitating disorders and yet somehow I've ended up where I am now.
They are not going to help. It's not going to be okay until I recognize myself again in the mirror. I haven't felt beautiful in years, and I'm 23. This is affecting me so much. The next option at this point is upper lid retraction repair, and I've read it's one of the most difficult of all plastic surgery procedures.
My surgeon says it's sacrificing one deformity for another, since typically after upper lid retraction, it's hard to keep the rounded almond contour above the eye, and it flattens a bit. What scares me is that, as you can see from the photos, my contour on my affected eye is ALREADY flatter than the crease of my other eye, since my second procedure. It involved a lot of clipping up and pinching together. When I asked the fellow if they would have to do undo the stitch before doing the lid retraction repair, she actually said no.
I am very confused, because if my lid is fixed effectively, then why would I keep either of the stitches? Wouldn't that just make my eye look smaller? If the lid issue is fixed-why would I need to keep the stitches?
Has anybody ever had a tarsorraphy removed before? Does the skin around your eye look saggy or loose? Does it end up looking the same as before?
All I can say is, the corner of my eye is so pinched, it's irritating. I'm fully recovered but it's itchy, my eyes burn if I lay on my right side, it's uncomfortable. And I'm distressed. I don't know what to do.
Somebody please tell me there is someone who has gone through all this before. I don't want to ruin my face, I just want to feel like me again. I don't know who this girl is, but she's not me. No amount of psychotherapy will change that.
"You have the most striking eyes I've ever seen" was the first thing my last boyfriend ever said to me.
My eyes, to me, represented my power, my importance; getting people to look into them was always my goal. I sought connection, and that was my absolute gift with people. I always felt my eyes were my strongest asset, since my nose had developed dorsal deformities that worsened with age. You definitely never realize what you have until it's gone..
My relationship with that boy lasted three years, during which I was diagnosed with Graves disease, had a thyroid that measured 4 times the normal limit, and received a nuclear ablation to destroy my thyroid gland. After six months of waiting for my metabolism to slow completely down, I was elated to finally be put on a dose of synthroid. I was wearing a lot of extra weight, and was very puffy in the face, which is when my boyfriend decided to end things. Spiraling into depression, I moved to Europe for a semester to pursue a minor.
It had been about a year since my thyroid had slowed completely when I started to notice that my dosages were suddenly off. My face got extremely puffy, I had unexplained weight gain and pressure behind my eyes, dark bags underneath them, and excess fluid in my face (I looked old/sagging skin). The second group of photos below were taken of me while I was experiencing this discomfort. I eventually went to a foreign endocrine, who told me my thyroid was too slow, and I was put on a higher dose of levothyroxine, since synthroid did not exist in the country I was residing in.
When I got back to the States, my ex and father both asked if I was punch in the eye. My left eye looked lazy, but when I went to the eye doctor, they told me that my right eye had actually been pushed forward about a millimeter, with my upper lid pulled up. I was horrified. I had never heard of "thyroid eye disease". All I could do was wait until it was considered "post-inflammatory" to discuss surgical options. It was more noticeable in photos than anything, and being an aspiring actress, I was so disheartened. I tried to conceal what I could with make up, but it was completely futile, I stopped looking people in the eyes altogether.
After two long years, the inflammatory stage of my disease had run it's course and I was ready to discuss operating. I decided on the least intrusive approach, called a tarsorraphy, where they sutcher the outtermost corner of the eye shut slightly to make the whites of the eyes a little less noticeable.
Apparently people get this procedure while awake, but it was agreed upon that I would be put under a local anesthetic, or a "twilight" for the procedure, since I have such sensitivity to pain. Apparently that did not knock me out enough, because Graves patients eat the twilight much faster than normal patients, and I kept waking up combatively during the procedure (I had no recollection of this). The result was bruising that lasted a month, and the inability to drive for the first week and a half. The pictures below will show you how the bruising was not that terrible directly following the procedure, and that my eyes actually looked symmetrical for the first time in years! But as I healed, the swelling went down, my eyes were still asymmetrical once again, and the bruising just got uglier. When I finally healed, my eyes were still as they were before, with only slight improvement (pictures below).
My friends and family all said how they couldn't notice any asymmetry at all and how my eyes were beautiful they way they were and to just leave them alone.
How can anybody understand how this feels? To not recognize the face you were born with when you look in the mirror. To feel like a monster. I have not dated since that last relationship; after graduating from a prestigious university and good grades with a very translatable communications degree, I've been living at home with my parents in the house I grew up in, unemployed, and have not dated or had romantic interactions with anybody in three years. This is emotionally debilitating and nobody is supportive or understanding. When it's not YOUR face why should you care if it's not symmetrical? How would you feel if every time you went through old photos with people they told you how you looked like a completely different and unrecognizable person three years ago?
I decided to undergo a second tarsorraphy after consulting with my surgeon whosaid he's never had a patient go back on a second tarsorraphy (*it's the least intrusive option because it is reversible). This time I was put completely under full anesthetic, and there were absolutely no complications, I didn't even need Tylenol (I can't take anything with codeine in it without puking) after day 1. I had almost no bruising. But here's where I'm at now (photos below).
I've had one post operative appointment since the second tarsorraphy where I was told I won't be able to discuss another surgery for at least six weeks, so from this point in time that I'm writing this post, about a month.
My mother is pushing therapy on me, which is hard. She says "it's your eye, then your nose, is it ever going to all be okay?". I understand her concerns, thinking I have some psychological obsessive disorder. But I've been through entirely too much therapy in the past three years and here I am completely debilitated on the couch, no friends, no job, no romantic prospects of any kind, trying to figure out how much longer I'll have to stay here and recover from surgeries. Sure I want to get out of here and start working a job, but I want this problem fixed. I've worked all the low wage customer service non-degree jobs, and I'm so tired of thinking my intelligence, my degree, all that time spent was wasted, and that I'm ugly and that fifteen different therapists couldn't diagnose me with any psychologically debilitating disorders and yet somehow I've ended up where I am now.
They are not going to help. It's not going to be okay until I recognize myself again in the mirror. I haven't felt beautiful in years, and I'm 23. This is affecting me so much. The next option at this point is upper lid retraction repair, and I've read it's one of the most difficult of all plastic surgery procedures.
My surgeon says it's sacrificing one deformity for another, since typically after upper lid retraction, it's hard to keep the rounded almond contour above the eye, and it flattens a bit. What scares me is that, as you can see from the photos, my contour on my affected eye is ALREADY flatter than the crease of my other eye, since my second procedure. It involved a lot of clipping up and pinching together. When I asked the fellow if they would have to do undo the stitch before doing the lid retraction repair, she actually said no.
I am very confused, because if my lid is fixed effectively, then why would I keep either of the stitches? Wouldn't that just make my eye look smaller? If the lid issue is fixed-why would I need to keep the stitches?
Has anybody ever had a tarsorraphy removed before? Does the skin around your eye look saggy or loose? Does it end up looking the same as before?
All I can say is, the corner of my eye is so pinched, it's irritating. I'm fully recovered but it's itchy, my eyes burn if I lay on my right side, it's uncomfortable. And I'm distressed. I don't know what to do.
Somebody please tell me there is someone who has gone through all this before. I don't want to ruin my face, I just want to feel like me again. I don't know who this girl is, but she's not me. No amount of psychotherapy will change that.
Replies (14)
May 14, 2015
I COMPLETELY understand your feelings of distress and no amount of therapy will heal how your feel. I underwent a cosmetic lower eyelid lift and had slight lateral retraction. Another surgeon noticed it and said he could "fix" it in an hour in his office. He shortened my horizontal eyelid length considerably (he did not tell me he intended to do this). I thought he was just going to lift the corners of my slanted down eyes. I have undergone multiple revisions, none of them lengthening procedures, which is what I keep telling the doctors is the problem (that my lid margin has been cut short!). I have been seeking a lid lengthening procedure and repair of the canthal webs that have resulted from previous surgeries. At this point, I feel so discouraged that I will never resemble my former self and I have that "pinched" distorted feeling at my lateral angles as well. It's painful and deformed feeling and looking. The size and shape of my eyes have been altered. I'd rather be missing a limb than have deformed, painful eyelids and small eyes. I know surgeons reconstruct eyelids for cancer patients and I keep wondering if reconstructing my cut off eyelid is a possibility but like you, I've been told to get therapy or learn to live with it. I simply cannot resign myself that there is no reconstructive surgeon on this planet who cannot reconstruct my missing lid margin, surgeons do it for cancer patients every day. But because my case started out as cosmetic and was essentially, destroyed by overly aggressive procedures, I'm seen as body dysmorphic or obsessive-compulsive. Who the hell wouldn't be obsessed when their eyelid has been cut short and is now deformed and painful? Doctors have tried hard palate grafts, fillers, canthoplasties, etc. But the real issue is, like a cancer patient, I'm MISSING LID MARGIN! I know I'll never have "MY" eyes back, but I wish and pray every day I could find a surgeon who is WILLING and talented enough to rebuild my missing lid margin, just like any other "trauma" patient who is deficient in lid margin. I am not seeking perfection. Not even close. Even if a surgeon WOULD reconstruct my missing lid margin, I would not have eyelashes, but I WOULD TAKE THAT over my short, small, webbed eyelids any day. I'm not body dysmorphic, I'm not crazy, I'm not obsessed. I've suffered a trauma, I've lost a significant portion of my eyelid and any NORMAL human being would be devastated by this and seek a reconstruction. The last three surgeons tried to pull my shortened lid margin laterally, but none of them attempted a reconstruction of the margin deficit. I don't know what else to do. I've had 3 revisions since the surgeon cut short my lower lid, but none of these procedures really addressed the reconstruction of the missing lid margin. If only I could find help. I truly understand.
May 26, 2015
I do not have $20-30k. I have a few k, but I would need nearly a charitable reconstructive effort. I feel hopeless
May 14, 2015
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July 31, 2015
let me know if you decide to do Ptosis with Dr. Taban…I had a consult with him and that is what he recommended for me, but I am too scared to do another surgery at this point. The upper bleph I had 9 months ago was traumatizing enough. If you have success I would love to know because then I will go back to him. Right now I don't trust any doctors to touch my eyes. If I can hear from a real person as opposed to questionable reviews on this site, I would be more trusting. thanks and good luck.

March 11, 2016
Go to Dr. Guy Massery - He's the best in this area - and highly respected by his peers - I've had drs turn me away from surgery - knowing I'm very picky - and told me I need to go to him. There's to much room for error when it comes to the eyes! Dr. Taban is good too, but I've had too many ocular surgeons tell me to go to Massery.
May 29, 2022
I just had surgery with him, I regret it and cry everyday. I look worse, but he left me with eyelid and facial pain. Horrible, devastating results
May 14, 2015
Hello, it looks as though your right eye is just a little bigger or wider open. Is it possible that your graves disease pushed this eye out a little farther? My sister had graves disease and it made her eyes bulge out very huge. She on the other hand (I believe) had the more in depth procedure to remove tissue behind her eyes so they could set back in again. Her eyes are not EXACTLY how they use to be, but she looks like herself. You would never know she had something done. I dont know if this helps at all, but i would be happy to forward questions to her if you had any!
May 26, 2015
I'm so sorry you are going through this pain. I know how difficult it is to not recognize yourself in the mirror - I understand your devastation. I had a surgeon perform an upper blepharoplasty on only one of my eyes when I was in high school (I had a ptosis and he performed the wrong procedure... Ugh) and now my eyes look completely different. It's heartbreaking to know you can't have your eyes back .
I have not had the procedure you are referring to but I'm sure someone on this site has and hopefully they can answer your questions about the procedure.
The only thing I can do is tell you that you are not alone and you will get through this ordeal and please - I would urge you to go to therapy. You are are correct that therapy won't give you your original eyes back but it really does help to talk with someone. Take it from me - I've hated my eyes for over 30 years and was terrified of having another procedure (I'm 52 now and my surgery happened when I was 18). I'm now in therapy and it's helping a lot. And I'm now searching for a skilled aesthetic oculoplastic surgeon to help make my eyes more symmetric. It may help you to see other oculoplastic surgeons to get their opinion.
Please keep us updated.
I hope you find the info you are looking for regarding the tarsorraphy removal. I don't think you are the only person to feel the way you described, I hope you find support in our community.