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Facelift & Lower Bleph to Revive Face Ravaged by Thyroid Problems
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Well tomorrow is the day. I meant to do this last...
WORTH IT$11,000
Well tomorrow is the day. I meant to do this last year at this time, but hit a little snag called uncertainty. I am 54, have a history of smoking (quit a year ago, had a relapse & quit again 5 1/2 weeks ago) but was actually somehow still looking younger than my age until I was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism & Graves' Disease at 50. I had my thyroid removed a year later and my body apparently hates living on thyroid meds with all the subsequent ups and downs. I have aged 10 years or more in the last 3! My levels are mostly stable so last year I went for plastic surgery consults, did all my research and then chickened out. I'm still nervous, mostly because I tend to be the bad luck kid. But I really want to look in the mirror and see me again...not this Graves' patient.
Here's the plan: Lower & mid facelift that extends up to crows feet area of hairline and lower bleph with incisions just below lashes that extend a little past outer corner of eye (these 2 approaches are necessary because of how much structure has been lost below and around my eyes from thyroid issues, smoking & sun). I'm expecting quite a bit of swelling in the eye area. I'll also be getting a deep peri-oral peel for lip lines.
At this point I just need to get this ball rolling so I can quit second guessing myself!
Here's the plan: Lower & mid facelift that extends up to crows feet area of hairline and lower bleph with incisions just below lashes that extend a little past outer corner of eye (these 2 approaches are necessary because of how much structure has been lost below and around my eyes from thyroid issues, smoking & sun). I'm expecting quite a bit of swelling in the eye area. I'll also be getting a deep peri-oral peel for lip lines.
At this point I just need to get this ball rolling so I can quit second guessing myself!
UPDATED FROM DinaTelli
1 day post
Post-op Day One - NOT!
So yesterday I showed up at my PS's office for the BIG DAY. Didn't sleep a wink the night before and have basically been an airhead for the past week because this has been all I can think about. Drove an hour to get there in rush hour, sent my husband home to await the call to return, and got into my gown. My IV was placed after 3 painful attempts (without gloves, because the anesthesiologist is old school and can't do it gloved). I asked if we had another person who could place it if he missed on the 3rd attempt, and he said no. Luckily he got it, but I swear I've never felt a more painful insertion technique. I signed my consents. I was given my pre-op meds, we started drawing on my face, and then we cancelled. Despite my telling them 3 times over that past 2 months that I have a history of SVT and am on a beta blocker for it, the anesthesiologist says he misunderstood and thought I had hypertension. So at the last second he calls some of his peers for advise, and then finally my cardiologist and my cardiologist's first question was if they can put me under general anesthesia if there is a problem (so they can cardiovert me if the epinephrine causes severe SVT). Since they couldn't in my surgeon's surgical suite they opted to cancel my surgery. I agree. But I'm not sure how I feel about it really. On the one hand it is good that they caught the error before surgery so I could reschedule in a facility that has more emergency services if needed. On the other hand, not sure how this happened. Not only did I tell them at my initial consultation, but I mentioned it on 2 separate phone calls since. So the good news is that I'm safe. The bad news is that I now have to get myself mentally prepared again and my recovery is more likely to run up against an appointment that I thought I'd be able to make. And I suppose that my confidence is a little rattled. And this may seem small...but I took 2 weeks of pre-op meds and have 2 weeks of Vitamedica left for post-op....but now my surgery is postponed a week. I started my acyclovir for the peel, and now I need to get more so I can restart it for the new date. I went low-salt the week before, need to do that again. I went NPO, did the hibiclens wash at home (yuk), and my poor husband did about 3 1/2 hours of driving that day. And I had 2 IV sticks, so many meds that I slept for nearly 24 hours, and now we're rescheduling and the new facility is making all the call and asking all the questions that should have been done before (including calls to my cardiologist). And they're trying to bill me for anesthesiology and facility charges, something I already paid to the PS. I'm sure they'll work it all out, but right now it is all so doggone confusing. I'd probably cancel, and maybe I should...but I actually really really like this surgeon. But I think there is a problem in his office somewhere. I started thinking that when I didn't get a pre-op visit actually. I had my consult 2 months ago, scheduled a week later by phone...and then about a month before I called to see when my pre-op visit was and was told they don't do them, I don't need one but if I had any questions I was are to call, etc. Got a little worried then. So I called a week before my surgery when I still had no written pre-op questions and told them I felt a little lost-in-the-cracks...so they gave me an appointment for the day before my surgery. At that appt, the day before yesterday, I told them about my SVT again, but still no alarms went off I guess. They did manage to ask for urine for a nicotine test tho. I wonder how they were going to do that if I hadn't insisted on seeing them before the surgery date? Ugh. So confused. Safe, but frustrated and scratching my head. lol
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March 13, 2016
Who is your doctor? I've been looking in both Vero Beach , Florida and in Cincinnati, Ohio also, since I share houses in both states. Sorry to hear about the cancellation at the last minute but it's better to be safe... Keep us up to date and good luck to you.

March 17, 2016
True Marisue! And the support they've given me since has been outstanding. I could PM his name to you if you'd like, but I have know idea how to do that! lol
March 18, 2016
I would really appreciate it if you could do that. I see that you went ahead with the surgery? It is true that the anesthesia is completely separate from the surgeon performing the operation. As long as you felt comfortable and felt good about being in capable hands I believe after a year researching doctors I would have gone through as well. I'm at the point after getting fillers for last four years and researching different doctors, I'm at int where it's now or never! I hope you are doing well and my thoughts and well wishes are with you for a speedy recovery and I hope you love you're new face! Please keep me posted please!
PS.... How do you send pm's through here? Or could I leave my email? Thanks again so much for sharing you're experience.
PS.... How do you send pm's through here? Or could I leave my email? Thanks again so much for sharing you're experience.
March 18, 2016
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out the PM thing. And my mind isn't in top form right now! lol From the looks of things my surgery went super well. I think I'm really going to like it once I'm less swollen. I have less bruising than I expected and the hardest part of recovery for me is this peel (hate slathering on the thick gooey stuff). No pain from the facelift or bleph and very little bruising/swelling with either. Just that doggone peel! Hearing it will be very worth it tho.

March 14, 2016
Who is your doctor? Please keep us posted on your journey. Stay strong doll and best of luck.

March 17, 2016
I was going to wait to put my doctor's name in until I know my final result. :) I want to be completely fair to him & not ruin his reputation over misunderstandings with staff or my crazy moods while healing or anything like that. In the end it will be the result that matters.
March 18, 2016
Maybe the universe is trying to tell you something. Facelift is a major procedure with a lot of risks that surgeons don't disclose. I learned the hard way after permanent nerve damage after a mini FL -- and I'm very healthy and have never smoked. At any rate, wishing you the best.
March 19, 2016
That's great. So happy to hear that your recovery is going well so far. I'm anxious about any pain because I'm such a baby. Thank you so much for your updates you have no idea how much I appreciate them. Hope you have a speedy recovery. Best wishes. And we can figure the pm thing when you are up to it, thanks!
UPDATED FROM DinaTelli
2 days post
Losing confidence...
Here are 2 of my 3 IV sites from two days ago...and man do they hurt. Site 2 was started below the 1st site the anesthesiologist blew in my forearm. Site 3 was done on the other side. Looks are deceiving tho...each site actually represents more than one needle stick. Ouch.
The thing that is making me nervous is this - is this the anesthesiologist's fault (who they say is one of the best & they've worked with for years) or does this represent a new problem in me (since I've always had good veins)? If this is some sort of new problem in me then should I be getting surgery on my face? If this is because their anesthesiologist just isn't very good, should I be concerned that they've stuck with him all these years (despite the fact that I'll have a different one now that I can't have surgery in their office suite)? Does this say something about their attention to detail & quality? Or is it more likely just an issue with me? Is this even a big deal? Or is it just nerves?
The anesthesiologist that day was very nice, took the blame, said I had good veins & couldn't understand how this happened or why and told me it never happens to him. So what happened? Can't decide if I'm crazy for going forward or if there is something I should do or expect from this PS's office to decrease my anxiety.
The thing that is making me nervous is this - is this the anesthesiologist's fault (who they say is one of the best & they've worked with for years) or does this represent a new problem in me (since I've always had good veins)? If this is some sort of new problem in me then should I be getting surgery on my face? If this is because their anesthesiologist just isn't very good, should I be concerned that they've stuck with him all these years (despite the fact that I'll have a different one now that I can't have surgery in their office suite)? Does this say something about their attention to detail & quality? Or is it more likely just an issue with me? Is this even a big deal? Or is it just nerves?
The anesthesiologist that day was very nice, took the blame, said I had good veins & couldn't understand how this happened or why and told me it never happens to him. So what happened? Can't decide if I'm crazy for going forward or if there is something I should do or expect from this PS's office to decrease my anxiety.
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March 15, 2016
Maybe you were dehydrated? Lack of fluids in the body make the veins harder to reach. Perhaps consider Dr Harley in North Carolina (Biltmore Lift). His work is amazing and he uses only twilight anesthesia. No IV at all. In addition, your cost would be significantly less. I certainly understand why you are confused and disappointed. Best of luck to you.

March 17, 2016
I actually think I may have been dehydrated like you suggest. Or something. I've sine gone back for the surgery & had no issues at all! And I stuck with him because I really did like him & attributed a lot of this other stuff to communication issues with a couple of staff along with a bad case of nerves on my part. I'm a couple days post-op and I'm really glad I did it. He also uses IV sedation, no general. Have you already had work done with Dr. Harley? I see his name everywhere!
March 15, 2016
I gotta agree with previous comment. Find a new surgeon. Things shouldn't be this difficult. Read Flags....

March 17, 2016
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of too. But I ended up having opens conversations with everyone involved and really felt good about everything so I proceeded with my surgery and did great! It was worth taking the extra time to do that since I'd spent a year checking out surgeons and this one was the one I loved. Any miscommunications or IV hiccups had nothing to do with the surgeon's hands or eyes. At least that's how I decided to approach it. Glad I did. But I truly appreciate your concern idlebrook...CdOsmond, & specky's too! The concern was reasonable, but their response was spectacular in the end and reminded me why I chose this team in the first place.

March 16, 2016
find a different surgeon to have a ps make those kinds of mistakes are not acceptable red flags get your money back dr Harvey has great results please keep us all update
March 16, 2016
Could you please tell us your plastic surgeon? My history of thyroid problems ( mine was removed and now I'm on syntroid for life and being an ex smoker ) are similar to yours. I believe I have my choices narrowed down to either Dr. Martin or Dr. Mendolson but still researching all doctors. I agree with the other ladies who commented. This is pretty frightening especially if you are allowing him to operate on you're face! Eeks!

March 16, 2016
Dr. Martin is excellent by the way. He has performed 3 separate surgeries for me...and I am all smiles. He is truly a caring and ethical plastic surgeon! Best wishes!!!

March 16, 2016
By the way I do not convert my T4 to T3 so I tried the compounded medication and now I am taking Armour Thyroid.

March 17, 2016
I've heard good things about Dr. Martin. And I loved my surgeon who also has an excellent reputation. My surgeon listens really well, offers up helpful ideas, takes all my history into account and even reviewed old pics to see what I was saying. Since the problems were not with my PS but with some staff & because he was open to discussing them and my subsequent fears in an open honest way...I now feel our dr/patient relationship is tons stronger than it would have been before. He's been great and so has his staff. I was so scared going into the whole thing that I think that I probably contributed to some of the pre-op issues I was feeling...but not all of them. It's a new solo practice so it's also possible that a couple of service bugs needed to be worked out.
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