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IPL: Bad Idea. Really Bad - Pointe-Claire, QC

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Gone baby, gone.

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KikiLisa
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The youthful skin I had before IPL is gone baby, gone. My skin has no elasticity left in it. If I wear glasses or a hat, the lines left on my skin from doing so stay present for hours. I have constant acne problems and my skin never recovered. It is still full of lines, indents, pock marks and scarring. To make matters worse, my health is in a sorry state. I truly believe IPL contains harmful radiation and it has damaged me internally as well. I have a constant, debilitating fatigue. No amount of rest resolves it. My family doctor has diagnosed me with chronic fatigue syndrome, while my Naturopath has diagnosed me with adrenal burnout and anemia. At the age of 39, I have loose skin now hanging underneath my chin (i.e. turkey neck). I believe that these treatments should be banned.

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Arie Benchetrit, MD

Arie Benchetrit, MD

Certified Plastic Surgeon

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June 16, 2013
Thank you so much for posting this review. It was so very helpful. I was told that IPL could help some of the dark spots I have on my face, but now I am just going to leave them alone. I appreciate you writing, thank you.
June 18, 2013
.flickr.com/photos/oxygenspamiami/6264936849/sizes/l/in/photostream/ This woman in the photo above owns a spa in Miami, she has has tons of IPLs, Obagy peels, all sorts of powerful peels and Retin-A, Obagy hydroquinone and all sorts of vitamin C, microderms, and her skin with makeup still hyper pigmented. Bottom line is her skin is pigmented and lifeless. She looks young because of facial injections and her addiction to plastic surgery. As a master esthetician, not a BSer like most out there.. IPL, and PEELS CAN CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
June 19, 2013
Kiki Lisa, I understand about how you feel your skin was damaged. Mine was too, only worse. Your still very pretty despite the damage.
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June 19, 2013
I agree, you are very pretty.
June 27, 2013
What is the difference between Radiofrequency For Facial Rejuvenation treatment and IPL ? I had 6 Radiofrequency and the last one was 3 months , this has caused dents on both cheeks , a lots of wrinkles under my eyes and the texture of my skin is looking like burnish, I look years older than, I did when I had this RF , after reading some of the stories , I AM PETRIFIED ,is there anything to stop the process of getting worse or anything which can help. I had 6 sessions and on a couple of occasion i had 2 a week but was told there were not side effect what so ever by the dr . Now my skin is looking for the worse , the dents are REALLY bothering me , they are in the middle of the face then up near the eyes .. it is awfull ;-(
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July 10, 2013
RF can cause fat necrosis. Some machines are used in a way with specialized heads for circumferential reduction at the arms, thighs or tummy. RF is wonderful for skin tightening of the face but there is a risk of fat necrosis that is sometimes desired especially at the "turkey gobbler". What machine was used for your treatment?
July 10, 2013
Syneron's Emax. I've had multiple derms and plasitc surgeons verify the fat atrophy. They basically said the setting for the RF were to high and in conjunction with the IPL damaged the dermis and subcutaneous layer.
July 10, 2013
Hi Slowhonay, I had 2 Indiba and 4 TriAcitve RF , i am sure those machine work wonder on some people, but unfortunately it also can do damage if used wrongly , i have never once been told about Skin damaged when i ask about side effect , in fact i was told there were no side effect , now looking at what it has done to my face I can say this it is no true, if you use someone with qualification and a lots of experience your chance to have this happening to you is minor but I don’t think the persons who did mine had a lots of experience. Now I need to find a solution to stop the damage to continue and hope my dents will get better.. also my face has been itching/and tingling for the past 4 weeks even at night .. Any advice or products or anything would be great . Thank you very much.
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July 10, 2013
Sometimes when the collagen remodels it can do so at a slant and create a "depression" in the skin. They say it is transient and will resolve in a few weeks. Without seeing pics it's hard to say what happened to you but I do know that what u described can happen with RF- especially if they were very aggressive. I'm not sure how u would go about fixing this problem. See a dermatologist that also does RF procedures so he/she can help you.
July 10, 2013
The only options are fillers or fat transfers unfortunately which are temporary fixes and won't make the skin the same as before. Fat transfers are more long term but very unpredictable and lumps may occur.
October 12, 2013
The RF they use was DEKA TriActive + this is now 8 months since my Six session and my skin and cheek are awfull , my cheeks are dented and almost flat were the fat used to be and the texture of my skin is very crêpey, and to top it all my face have been itching on and off for the last 6 months , this make me look terrible and a LOT a older then my ages.. Doctors should tell the client the risk of those device as it can really damage people's life i know this has mine , i am now because very insecure and hate looking at myself . People should know the truth their is too many horror story regarding RF shame i didnt read those stories before i agreed to go ahead as i would have say no way and i would been happy now instead of miserable.
January 26, 2014
It is now 11 months since my last Radio Frequency ( deka Triactive plus) disaster, my face is awful now, loss of fat all over the face specially on the cheeks, chin and under my nose my face looks diferent in a bad way my skin is just terrible
January 26, 2014
Z01, I am sorry about the damage to your face that was a result of having an IPL. It really sukcs. I do think your skin can heal some. The fat loss may be a different story. I felt the fat on my right upper lip and around my noise was somewhat atrophied, giving my nose a pointier look (think witch!), and I have a slight sagging of skin on either side of my noise. I wont go on and on here as I've written it else where. There is a woman on youtube, a therapist, who works with people who have been traumatized by IPL and other treatments gone wrong. I spoke with here and found it helpful. As far as my face goes, I use a lot of oit (emu oil for the skin). I have permanent inflamation (actually sizzled fat) underneath where one would have bags ( I only have the illusion of bags, think carved out, as the fat fell underneath that area and stayed puffed up), I am in graduate school at the moment, but when I am done will look into having that corrected. I will also look into fillers and fat injections but am very wary. My skin texture is not great, but the oil helps. I am so sorry that you are having to go through this, I wouldn't wish this on anybody. People don't understand how damaging this can be to our sense of self. It is traumatic to have your face change, and to be damaged by someone and something that was supposed to be for the our betterment. There is a doc in Florida who does filler for aids patients who have had facial wasting (severe fat and muscle loss) and he looks like he knows what he is doing and does a great job with the guy in the video. Put "aides facial wasting cure" in the youtube search engine. I am sending healing vibes your way. be well.
January 26, 2014
I am so sorry to read this. I have had side effects from IPL too all I have done is Endymed to tighten my cheeks and Glycolic & Lactic acid chemical peels as well as lots of creams (synergie priority b ultimate b3 serum & suprema c) Will be getting dermal fillers under my eyes. Can I ask if you have had any peels yet?
January 26, 2014
Hi sp123. , No I haven't done any peels, I am kind of afraid too. Did it help the skin texture? The skin on my nose feels rough...and has big pores...though I am not too worried about anyone caressing my nose any time soon ; ) What is Endyned? And where can I find the other things you are talking about? I would love to know how the dermal fillers under your eyes work. I know if I have an eye job I will need some filler, otherwise it would end up looking weird. Thanks for writing.
January 27, 2014
I am a 20 year old male and I have the horrible british skin which freckles like there is no tomorrow in the Australian sun. I have had probably about 12 IPL sessions all up and afterwards my skin was loose, textureless and just looked gross. I have not had any IPL and 6 months and my skin has improved quite a bit. IPL does horrible stuff your skin there is no doubt. Anyway back on track umm I found the peels to be good because there is a lot of dead skin on the top layers which I could not get rid of with scrubbing. There is a peel called the Jessner peel which you are supposed to PEEL I'm looking forward to getting this one when I can afford some downtime. I have had the 25% glycolic peel and have had great results. 40% is the highest you go. Endymed is just a skin tightening machine (not painful like IPL) quite a few people on here have said it didn't work for them. It worked for me but you have to wait 3 months or so for results. I got it done for my cheeks where I had just lost so much elasticity. It's quite expensive (Think $300 AUD per treatment and you need 6-8 ish) I have the exact same problem with pores I have not researched into any fix for this yet. I think the Synergie skin range might be an Australian only but they are just (expensive) vitamin creams. I have always had some circles under my eyes but after IPL I lost quite a bit of fat from under my eyes which made the circles quite worse. Dermal fillers in this case are just a liquid that they inject under your eyes into the tear trough to fill the depression, because there is no fat under there this is what creates the circles) If you open up google images and search for "restylane under eyes" you will see what I mean. Restylane is just the type of dermal filler I am getting put in my tear troughs. I think I have mentioned this before in a comment on this thread that I thought peels might be a good option. Hope I could help!
June 27, 2013
Anyone From London or Kent ?
July 12, 2013
Hi, Yes - I am from this area.
UPDATED FROM KikiLisa

Just to be a bit more specific, I had 2 BBL Sciton...

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Just to be a bit more specific, I had 2 BBL Sciton treatments to the face. The first was in Sept. 2009 and the second in Aug. 2010. The settings used the first time: Filter:560; Frequency: 13J, 12ms; Degrees: 16. The second time: Filter:575; Frequency: 11J, 14ms; Degrees: 16.
In the year that followed my first treatment, I noticed less elasticity, more wrinkles, and some minor fat loss. I attributed all this to basic aging. After my 2nd treatment a year later, the fat loss, loss of elasticity and change in skin texture were so rapid and aggressive that it allowed me to put everything together. The IPL treatment is responsible for the unfavorable changes in my skin. I am extremely regretful I ever decided to have this procedure done and urge anyone out there to think very carefully before going ahead with an IPL.

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February 9, 2012
Crap!! I was just about to make my appts as recommended. 3 treatments per week for 3 weeks. Thanks guys. I'll think a lot more about this. I have deep vertical lines like on my upper lip (like you might expect on a long term smoker, which i definitely am not) and have led a fanatically healthy life as a type 1 diabetic. I'm wondering if having electrolysis in my early 20s for hair removal is the cause? I was looking at IPL to help get rid of the lines but now just wondering with amazement about the obvious risk involved. [Neither of my sisters (all above 45) have this problem]. For those who have had these horrible negative results, I'd probably be looking at what is available for preventing/ healing scarring in burns victims. Thanks from Australia.
May 15, 2012

I was thinking of IPL because I too had electrolysis to remove hair on upper lip and chin areas. My upper lip has vertical wrinkles from it, and so does my chin. I eat very healthy, don't go out in the full sun, don't smoke and take lots of vitamins. I even had one treatment from a machine that uses magnets instead of laser. And everyone said I looked older, right after the treatment with that machine. I was just considering the IPL. I'm glad I checked this out first. Thank you so much everyone.

February 10, 2012
No! I had no wrinkles, and ipl gave me smoker line because it zapped the natural fat n my face. Skin looks awful!
February 15, 2012

KikiLisa, thank you so much for posting your story. Really, thank you SO much. I was just researching IPL (wanted some treatment for sunspots), and now I'm definitely going to stay away from it! It is totally not worth the risk. It's just terrible that people like you had to have the bad experiences that serve as a warning to others.

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February 20, 2012
Jordan, you got hyperpigmentation from microdermabrasion?! My goodness, all these skin treatments I thought were on the safer side and I am hearing these cautionary stories. I thought IPL's were no or little downtime?
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February 20, 2012
Jordan, you got hyperpigmentation from microdermabrasion?! My goodness, all these skin treatments I thought were on the safer side and I am hearing these cautionary stories. I thought IPL's were no or little downtime?
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Wow is all I can say. I am going to post a few...

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Wow is all I can say. I am going to post a few more pictures soon. The skin does not recover from this. It continues to deteriorate. The fat loss is progressive and ongoing. It is soooo soooo sad.

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January 31, 2012

I just had this shared on my review and thought you would find it interesting as well!!

http://www.ctv.ca/w5/

Response to the Investigational Report!!
http://www.dermatology.ca/files/CDA-W5-Lasers-Jan-2012-EN.pdf

Kudos to the Canadians!!

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February 1, 2012
Yes, I was interviewed for this report. Sadly, they did not include me in the piece.
February 6, 2012

Did you read the article? It said the treatments were done in places like tanning and hair salons and cheap medical spas and by people who are clearly not trained. That's like going to a backroom "plastic surgeon" in Tijuana and wondering why you got a bad result.
The problem is that there is no regulation so you have to make sure your practitioner is experienced and legit and while this won't prevent 100% of negative effects, it will greatly reduce experiences like this. It also said they bought the deals off of internet deal sites which is a huge red flag. The last place you should be looking for deals when it comes to lasers and like treatments for your face. Sometimes the naivety of people really amazes me. They don't do their research or are so desperate they ignore the warning sings and then wonder why they got a bad result.

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February 6, 2012
Victoria, I know many, many people who were harmed by practitioners who were the foremost laser gurus in the country. My practitioner had been doing IPL for 10 years and it still managed to harm my skin. The problem doesn't just lie with inexperienced practitioners, it also lies with the technology itself. It's not an exact science. I admit I was naive because I trusted the clinic I went to, but that doesn't mean I should take all the blame for what happened to my face.
February 7, 2012
That would explain why they did not use your story since you went to a reputable, board certified office.

Many of the doctors on here admit that problems can occur with lasers even in the best hands. I wish I had been offered a better informed consent prior to my procedure.
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February 5, 2012
Oh Kiki, that is exactly my skin texture, and you have a lighter complexion than me. People wanted to say that I got that texture because of my tone, but clearly these machines don't discriminate.
Sigh... :(. Why aren't doctors even posting on our reviews? They are saying nada, pretending it's not them that have these outcomes...puhlease. If anyone goes for ipl/laser, this is the texture they are gambling with. So not worth it.
February 7, 2012

Just to jump in for a second - a lot of doctors don't feel comfortable posting on the reviews due to HIPAA laws, so that is why you don't see a lot of them on here.

February 5, 2012

no, they are not, but they still use other lasers.

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February 7, 2012
HIPPA is to protect the identity of the patient, they could post in general if they wanted to.
February 8, 2012

Yes, and some choose too, but others feel it is not worth the potential risk.

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