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Melasma battle

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I developed melasma about three years ago when I...

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Pamcat
I developed melasma about three years ago when I was 36. My skin has always been great,no problems really but after a wax ( upper lip) and a glycolic peel treatment and venturing out I to the sun I was left with a melasma moustache and a splodge of pigmentation running from my forehead down my cheek uggggh! I thought in time it would too it's own but NO the damn thing refused the budge. After about a year I decided to seek treatment, I saw a dermatologist who confirmed it was melasma and that it was in both my epidermal layer and my dermis. I was prescribed the rx obagi system and that's when things got really bad!!! My skin was sensitive , red, peeling and at the end if the treatment ( approx 3 months of diligent use ) there was no improvement - in fact it looked worse. Since then I tried all sorts of treatments - azelaic acid, mandelic acid , vit c serums, lots of pigment creams such as skinceuticals , caudalie , avene, la roche ( all the things recommended for melasma ) I spent a fortune but nothing worked and just made the patches look worse!! I then booked in for dual yellow laser with moderate success - I had 6 treatments , the skin went dark tan after treatment and faded off each time , however the only place to offer this was a clinic in London and each session was £300. Doing the maths the results didn't match the cost so I stopped treatment about a year ago and gave up. So what worked for me? I came off birth control - though I'm sure this didn't cause my melasma I was worried it could be contributing to it's continuance. I began taking a high strength vitamin c extract, and 500 mg of vit b3 daily ( lots of research on the internet about it's use for pigmentation etc) I laid off all the creams ,acids etc and started to wash with cetaphil and moisturise with cetaphil , I use a vit b3 serum twice daily - it's non irritating and gentle . I began to see a real improvement yay! The final piece fell into place for me when I went for a tattoo removal with the picosure machine - the aesthetician mentioned that the machine in multi functional and can be used for skin rejuvenation . I mentioned my melasma and she said that yes the picosure can be used on a low setting to treat the condition . I'm four treatments in and the results have been great, I'd say I've experienced a 60% reduction especially on the dreaded stache ????????????. Best thing is the treatments cost just £100 each. It's worth noting that I religiously apply factor 50+ sunscreen throughout the day . I can't obviously say which bit of my regime works the best but I really wanted to share that the simplest of things can work, you have to be patient , but go gently - a lot of the stronger treatments simply aggravate the melasma and make it worse in my experience . I hope this helps at least one person that reads this because I know only to well how soul destroying it can be and how this skin condition destroys confidence. Good luck to you all out there ????

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October 12, 2015

Interesting about the PicoSure!  Are you still getting treatments or are you done for now?

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October 13, 2015
Hi, I'm off for my fifth picosure today and still keeping up with the rest if my regime . Just a bit more fading and I feel I could carry on with life and finally forget it!
October 13, 2015

I hope you post a review update afterwards- we'd love to know more about the downtime/recovery, if any, and see pics.

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October 14, 2015
Hi, sorry I don't have any pics as I didn't take any before I started my treatment so there would be no comparison to draw on. With regards to down time , I had treatment yesterday and was red all day , it's calmed down now . The patches look a little darker but they always do , should fade off in a week or so - they have done so before . Apparently it works in a similar way to tattoo removal , dark pigment gets broken down and removed through the immune system whilst some exfoliates away .
October 14, 2015
Thanks for your story, I suffer from meals a as well. I've tried Obagi's new line (ZO) and my skin ended up very irritated and allergic to the bleaching cream. I've tried laser, which worked initially but 2-3 months later, and even with daily sunscreen, my patches were back and worse! I've tried microneedling (6 sessions) and very little improvement. I tried a chemical peel with little improvement. It's extremely frustrating to say the least. I would love to wear less foundation now that I'm 41, yet I can't because of the need to cover the melasma... Can you please tell me what vitamin c extract you're taking as well as the vit b3 serum?
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October 14, 2015
Hi , I initially tried a skinceuticals vit c but it was too strong for my skin as it had become over sensitive . I now use the body shop vit c range , it has a gentle face wash, serum and moisturiser which are gentle enough for me to tolerate . The b3 setum is by advanced skin care , again I can tolerate it - I found it on ebay. It's a frustrating condition , totally ruined my confidence . I take 2000 mg of vit c extract a day and 500 mg of b3. The sunscreen I use is la roche posay - again it's all my skin can tolerate . Hope that helps
October 15, 2015
Thank you for the information, I appreciate it. Dealing with melasma is extremely frustrating for me too!
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October 16, 2015
hi , I know they do picosure in London too but when I called they told me that they don't treat indian skin. Is that true that this laser is not suitable for indian skin?

I am 3 days post dermamelan. Trying to find something that can fix my melasma. Please see my pictures from 4 days ago before dermamelan. I will post more after 1 and 2 months and also long term. I plan to add more treatments such as vitamin C, retin-A with consultation from my dermatologist after 3 months since I have been told that dermamelan results are not permanent. Haven't been diligent with sun protection so far but would be 100% protecting my skin from sun and any irritation as long as I live. But really hoping to achieve atleast 50% fading with dermamelan.

any comments?
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October 17, 2015
Hi, as far as I was aware the dual yellow can be used on skin types that are higher up the Fitzpatrick scale, I may be wrong though! Tbh I didn't find a significant improvement with it. The picosure operates on a 755 wavelength , which is safe for skin type I to IV but not V ( found this on pico website) so I think IV is black/Afro Caribbean ? Maybe you would be ok? Only thing I could say would be to find someone that uses pico local to you and go for a consult. I steer clear from all chemical peels , hydroquinone and anything irritating as it makes my melasma worse and my ski sore . You absolutely have to use sun protection. I apply every day at least twice a day ( more in summer) otherwise treating melasma is pointless, it will just come back
October 22, 2015
I just finished my second picosure treatment for my melasma and I have yet to notice much of a difference. When did you start to notice a real change in your melasma?
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October 22, 2015
It took 3 before I really saw a visible change, I've had five now and am booked in for a final session in December , I can now stand a couple of feet from the mirror and I can't see it. When I'm up close I can see a shadow of it but it's massively improved. As my review says I also take supplements and vitamin creams and sunscreen diligently. I think it's a combination of them all. Good luck with your treatment !
October 30, 2015
Hi there.thank you for the reassurance as i'm having my second yag laser treatment tomorrow..I'm so skeptical as there was no difference after my first session..I really do hope for success or even just to see something by the 3rd session as you really do become hopeless and lose faith when nothing ever works!!!!
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October 30, 2015
I can honestly say that melasma destroyed my confidence, I completely changed as a person which may sound silly to some but all I wanted to do was hide. Harsh chemicals in my opinion just make it worse and it cones back twice as hard. I'm hopeful that after my last session in dec and continuing with a gentle and protective reigns that it will stay away !
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October 30, 2015
Regime not reigns!
November 1, 2015
I feel the same way. Thinking good thoughts for you!
UPDATED FROM Pamcat

It's back ????

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Sad to say that my Melasma has returned, I've been busy researching all sorts of options and slowly coming to the conclusion that the conventional treatments just don't work for me . I think the pico faded my epidermal pigmentation but I think I have dermal which has resurfaced. Anything with glycolic acid even in low concentrations upsets and inflames my Melasma adding pih to the mix. Hydroquinine and retin a has the same effect , the obagi system whilst working for some made my condition much much worse , pigmanorm also irritated. So I'm now taking efforts to try and reduce my symptoms naturally. I've started using hydrogen peroxide , diluted with equal part water as my final rinse after washing with cetaphil gentle cleanser , I then apply organic cold pressed castor oil , leaving on for a few hours each evening before washing again with Cetaphil. Because of the oil I don't need to moisturise afterwards. I'm supplementing my diet with 1000 mg msn, 1000 mg vit c, 200 mg zinc, 1000 mg grapefruit seed extract, and niacimide 1000 mg per day. It swallow these before food with Yakult probiotic for gut health . I have changed my sunscreen to cotz factor 58 sensitive which is a physical not chemical sunscreen. Trying not to lose hope because I feel very low right now, what a bloody frustrating thing this is!

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May 7, 2016
hi, I am in the same boat. I have stopped visiting dermatologists and don't use any chemicals on my face now. I am taking natural treatment with herbs, and using ACV as toner and coconut oil as moisturiser. I also use hyluronic acid and rosehip oil at night.

Yes for dermal melasma, you only have option of treating it internally. You say you are hopeful but not sure how many women actually rid themselves of this condition eventually. Read my reviews to know more about my current diet ( called ketogenic diet) too. Do update if something works for you. And, try to stay away from chemicals now on. It's very tempting to try another cream or laser, but try to stay away as it this line of treatment was to work for you it would have already!! don't ruin your face anymore..
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May 7, 2016
I most definitely will update if this works , I've done so much research I've driven myself mad !! It's not as bad as it was and I have no new patches but it is definitely worse than it was 6 months ago - most disheartening! Good luck with your journey I understand completely what you are going through
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May 7, 2016
Dear , I wish there was a way out of this obsession. I have tried moving on but no avail
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May 7, 2016
It's terrible isn't it, always trying to find the thing that will give us back the skin we had
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May 7, 2016
Sorry that last comment didn't post in its entirety , I just wondered what sunscreen you use ? And do you use an antioxidant ?
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May 7, 2016
I have many...latches-posy,bioderma and neutrons. .cure of melasma isn't in wearing right sunscreen but reducing sun sensitivity of your skin..
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May 7, 2016
Yes I think that's right, I think that physical blockers work best so here's hoping !!
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May 8, 2016
Have you tried cosmelan? I'm debating this or vi peel pricision. I use the body lotion and it has worked on my childhood scars/shaving nicks.
One thing that kinda helps is silicone scar cream and exfoliating 4-5 a week. Followed with la mer. It's expensive. But I don't laser cause all of them make it worse. ALL DO. If they worked then peel brands would be put out of business and people would look like porcelain dolls.
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May 8, 2016
I haven't tried Cosmelan , I know the uk system doesn't use Hydroquinine but other lighteners , I figure for it to peel that it would have some acid in it and I worry that would only aggravate Melasma . Ihave just looked at the VI precision peel, the results sound good but I think I'd be too scared to try it. My Melasma arose from a glycolic treatment / lip wax which traumatised my skin I think that it needs to be left alone . I exfoliate gently with a soft facial brush and then follow my protocol. Im just hoping that with time and patience it improves
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July 2, 2016
cosmelan is safe. you probably didn't use sunblock and stayed out of sun after glycolic peel. also, cosmelan is safe for all skin types. it won't aggravate.
May 9, 2016
Pam, I am so sorry the melasma is back. It is so incredibly frustrating to have it come back. I know only to well!! Did you do anything different over the last 6 months, have you been under any more stress, changed your diet?
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May 9, 2016
Nothing that I can think of though I have been extremely stressed out do that possibly hasn't helped , if anything I'm healthier than ever so not sure what the answer is :-(
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July 2, 2016
see, i feel you are not being patient with the internal treatments. you have to give at least six months of good diet and supplements to get good results. melasma takes about 1-1.5 years of consistent changed lifestyle to go away. you can try topicals to fade it away too. but internal cure takes time so be persistent with taking supplements and dietary changes.
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July 2, 2016
I'm still going forward with the lifestyle and internal treatments, I recognise a holistic approach is called for
December 21, 2016
I finally found something that worked amazingly. It's called Tri-Luma. You get it from your dermatologist. I have spent 1000 of dollars on everything you've talked about and nothing worked. So I decided to stop everything and just use this and it's worked. You can google coupon for it for 75 percent off. I hope it works for you the way it has me.
December 21, 2016
I've used this and it's really bad for your skin long term. Spots come back along with collagen loss and pitting
December 31, 2016
Have you girls tried Cosmelean?
UPDATED FROM Pamcat

Tranexamic acid for Melasma ?

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Have been reading some interesting stuff about the use of Tranexamic acid for Melasma , there's clinical trials I've found online with positive results plus forum feedback , it's used to reduce heavy menstrual flow but seems to lighten dermal Melasma when taken orally , anyone have any experience? You can buy these at BOOTS for around £7.50 so wondering whether to give it a go

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May 8, 2016
yes did for less than two months though...i noticed no changes at all... I think trials show it worked for epidermal melasma. I have dermal maybe that's why it didn't work. I tried the japanese brand Transino.
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May 8, 2016
Hi Mandy, was it tablets or cream you tried?
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May 9, 2016
Tablets
May 8, 2016
I'm trying it now. Have been on for 1 1/2 weeks I definitely see an improvement. Have stopped using all bleaching or any other type of creams. I have mixed type of melasma (dermal and epidermal) which is the most common. I have tried everything and this so far has had the best results. I would say about 20% reduction. You do need to complete the full 6 months of taking it twice a day. I have read many studies on this and in some patients there is a reacurrace so you may need two rounds of 6 months. Unless you treat the internal cause you will never get rid of melasma, any relief you have is inky temporary. Hope this helps.
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May 11, 2016
Thanks for the info, I'm worried about side effects but I'm going to try it . What dosage are you taking?
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May 11, 2016
I too have mixed Melasma X my derm said not to deep not too shallow . Ummm helpful lol !
May 16, 2016
In the us it's only available in a 650mg pill so I cut in half and take 325mg twice a day. So far there have only been very mild side effects, very slight spotting in between periods. I can say that my Melasma has significantly improved!! I'm wearing less make up and feel like my old self after struggling with it for almost 4 years!!
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May 16, 2016
hi, what kind of melasma do yo have? I heard it's only epidermal that responds to transxamic acid. do you have diagnosis whether it's dermal or epidermal. I am glad something is working for you. It's feels great after all the misery we faced due to this condition.
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May 16, 2016
Thanks for the information , I may well give it a go, when all said and done this whole process is trial and error
May 24, 2016
Could you please tell me where did you got the pills? thanks
May 24, 2016
I have read about Tranexamic acid too and all the result seem very positive.... i would love to give it a try. How did you got the medication? do you need a prescription?
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May 25, 2016
In the uk you can buy it from a pharmacy , or you can get a prescription from the doctor. They won't give it you for Melasma , only for heavy periods
May 26, 2016
Thanks for answering =)
December 14, 2016
I had terrible mela small just as described by these ladies..Recently I found a collagen and vitamin cream and a visible performance serum from Essence de Beaute..its all made of fruits by Nigerians...the 1000s that I spent over the years were my experiences..I now spend 85 every 2 months for both and am soooo pleased...
December 14, 2016
*Melasma*
July 8, 2017
Do you need a prescription to purchase Tranexamic acid?