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44-year-old Having Tummy Tuck and Breast Lift in Thailand, TH

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Hi. I have three kids and my weight has fluctuated...

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Hi. I have three kids and my weight has fluctuated over the years between 55kg and 73kg (I'm 5ft 4in) outside of pregnancies. My breasts are set low and grew droopy with big areolas. I have always had slack stomach muscles and a stomach that you constantly have to hold in, despite exercise. Since my pregnancies my stomach skin has been very stretched out and droopy. I am a natural apple shape and carry most of my excess fat on my torso. I have lost 10kg over the last year and although I'm pleased with the results, I still look in the mirror naked and feel depressed by the melted candle I see before me. I feel I've never had a good figure and would like to feel good before I'm too old to care! I have wanted a tummy tuck and different boobs for years, and now I can afford it and my kids are older so I'm finally having surgery on 23 April 2016 with Dr Amorn Poomee at Bumrungrad Hospital in Thailand.

I am a UK expat living in Singapore. I have lived overseas for many years. I have been looking into these surgeries for years. I chose Thailand because it is close to where I live, it is cheaper than Singapore (by more than $25,000) and because I researched this Dr and this hospital and liked what I saw when I visited. I previously tried to arrange surgery with a surgeon called Adrian Richards in the UK but frankly it was so difficult to get information and correspondence going with his office, I just gave up. I felt they were not geared up for patients coming in from overseas and they also said I would have to be in the UK for at least 6 weeks, which is not possible for me. In Thailand I can be home within 2 weeks and it's only an hour or so flight away if I have to return for any reason.

My surgery is now less that one week away and I'm very, very nervous. My concerns are like the layers of an onion - with the worst fear obviously being death (the outer layer)! As you work your way inside my 'worry onion' :-) the next concern is that I don't die but there are serious complications, then that there are no complications but I hate the result and need revisions, then that the results are fine but disappointing or just 'ok', then that I feel really terrible after the op and take forever to recover/see results, then finally that I just regret it for some reason. Other than that, I'm really looking forward to it ha ha!
Assuming everything goes OK in general, I'm most concerned about scar position. I really don't want a high scar and I've seen his work on other patients on here and they look pretty high to me. If I go through all this, put my family through it and spend all this money, I will be seriously disappointed if I get dog ears and a really high scar that means I can't really wear a bikini in the end after all. Can anyone offer any reassurance on the best way or most likely scenarios to get a low scar and no dog ears? And who pays if revisions to dog ears are needed - you or the surgeon? I should ask him this, of course.
Any advice or words of reassurance would be very very welcome at this stage! Thanks for reading!

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I liked Dr Poomee and Mrs Poomee when I met them for a consultation a few years ago. It's quite a bonus that they work as a team (she is a nurse) so you feel you have double the point of contact. He seemed more 'gentle natured' than some Drs I consulted, which was reassuring and Mrs Poomee is warm and comforting. I know he is very experienced and worked in the US for many years as well as Thailand. Some people online have expressed concerns about his advanced age affecting his ability. I'm not sure exactly how old he is, but he looks and seems A LOT younger than I've heard he is. So I was happy to dismiss those concerns. He has been very clear and pleasant throughout this process, he's honest in managing your expectations and responds to your email queries very quickly.

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April 18, 2016
Hi I am happy for you and your upcoming surgery. I am 6 weeks post op come tomorrow and it was a good decision. I understand your concerns too I had all of them or most of them too. I think the scar placement has to do with your body type but I'm not really sure I had the same concern and I know that most doctors say they try their best to make it as low as they can so your bikini area is covering it. I know that that was something that my doctor did for me and I'm glad and pleased with the outcome. Since you are traveling for your surgery have you discussed with your doctor if you have any complications how will be handled will you need to be flying back for repetitive follow-ups? I'm asking because my doctor is only an hour away by car and I know that I've been going to follow up visits every few weeks. I've had a few bumps in the road but not really huge complications or anything . As far as who pays for things if there's any unforeseen issue you're right I guess you have to discuss it with your doctor or it might be in some of the paperwork you signed pre-surgery. You look like you already have a nice figure and your skin situation is similar to mine pre-surgery so I can only encourage you that I hope you'll be pleased with your outcome because I know it's hard to imagine but it can make a huge difference and your body looks really good now but you just have what we have with the frequent weight gains and pregnancies and weight losses so I just wanted encourage you that the surgery can make it a very positive impact in your life don't let the first few weeks discourage you. They're probably the hardest but then by week 3 things really start 2 gradually come together more and you'll gradually get back to feeling more like yourself as time goes on. Do you have a friend or family member who's coming with you? It is nice to have somebody supportive and loving to help you through the process. It sounds like you wouldn't decided to go with this doctor because you were confident in him and his abilities so that should make you feel more reassured that he has positive experience. I felt very secure with my doctor he put me at ease and I definitely don't regret going with him. Please keep us updated on your progress
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April 18, 2016
Sorry I'm using my voice text and I meant to say it sounds like you decided to go with your doctor because you are confident in his experience. And then that should make you feel reassured
April 19, 2016
Thank you so much for your reply Latteluvin! It's great to hear your reassurance and kind words and advice. Yes, my husband is coming with me and he's been well-briefed on what to expect. I'm only an hour or so flight from Thailand which sounds a lot but it's not really, so if needs be I can return fairly easily. If there are any complications I can also stay there longer. I'm glad you're pleased with your results on the other side. That's great to hear. Thanks again, and please let me know how you get on with your recovery.
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April 19, 2016
Oh that's wonderful I'm so glad that your husband's coming with you. It doesn't sound like it's going to be an issue for you to travel either so that's a plus. Your welcome about everything it's good to talk to people that are going through it. I think I talk to my husband ear off about it LOL. I really didn't have too much complications I had maybe one area of infection in the belly button and I had some trouble with my incision my belly button cleared up really well with the antibiotics and I'm currently putting antibiotic on one of the area of the incision so my doctor is hopeful that will resolve as well. Thank God no major complications. One thing you probably heard is just standing up straight is probably going to be really difficult in the early stages and as a result you will most likely have back pain. It will be great if you have some kind of recliner to rest in. Looking forward to hearing how everything is going. I'm one week 6 + I feel amazing except I'm really wishing that my doctor was going to clear me for my full exercise routines unfortunately he still wants me to curb that a bit for now. Rightfully so I don't want to mess up the diastasis repair. It's just I've been patient because I love junk food and the workouts I feel like allows me a little more leeway with food. Another helpful thing just to let you know is try to eat a lot of fiber rich things so you don't have to use your muscles to strain when you go to the bathroom. Looking forward to hearing updates from you thanks for everything
April 20, 2016
Thanks again! More great tips and info. :-)
April 26, 2016
Hi, Im enjoying your amusing but frank posts. Im planning on the same TT+BLift at Bumrungrad next month, haven't chosen a surgeon yet. Are you happy with your decision, anything you'd change ? (other than the first 48h obviously). I also have larger boobs so think maybe I don't need implants but also dont want to be disappointed hoping they'll look like they did at 18, are you pleased with the results ?
I hope you feel better soon and please keep posting :)
April 26, 2016
Hi Lara G - thanks for your message. So far I am happy with my decision regarding the Dr and the hospital. The room and staff were very nice. If you decided to go with him, I'd ask if Mrs Poomee would be able to be with you when you came round in recovery, that would have been very comforting. Tomorrow will be the first time I see 'beneath the binder' so not sure how I'll feel after that - hopefully not homicidal! I almost don't want to look. I think I still have quite a lot of alarming pen scribbles all down me as well as the bruises from lipo on my sides and horror zipper stitches. I have come to terms with the idea that it won't be perfect, even in the end, but it will DEFINITELY be an improvement. Coming round to this realistic viewpoint has helped me a lot. To be honest, I've never had good boobs or a little waist - my boobs developed low and droopy, with massive areolas and small flat nippes (even my own mother once said 'where are your nipples?'), and my ribcage is long and my hip bones high, so there's very little space between them for a nice long slender waist. Therefore, I can't expect that he's turned me into someone else. I have resolved to be happy with an 'improved' me.
The reason I didn't go for implants was that I have a broadish ribcage with low set boobs and button up clothes have never fitted my chest properly even when I was super slim, so I decided implants would just make me even broader and less likely to fit into things that were the right size elsewhere. Also, I can't be bothered replacing them in 10 years time or sooner. And with my papery skin, I thought the extra weight would just make them droop again really quickly. This is my big overhaul, I don't want to go through it again later. Anyway, just some things to think about while you decide. Thanks again and good luck with your research and surgery!
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July 20, 2016
The "worry onion".... perfect wording for this! Considering Dr. Poomee as well. Do you have any updated pics?
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3 days post op update

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OK, this is going to be a long update including all the things I would liked to have known about this experience. I hope it's helpful and you don't fall asleep!

I arrived for the pre-op appointment on Friday afternoon. I was there from 1pm to around 4pm in the end and by then the aircon had chilled me to the bone, so wrap up! I met Dr Poomee's wife in the waiting room and we had a bit of a chat before I went in to see him. He was very sprightly and cheerful and talked me through the procedure. I wanted some info about scar placement and dog ears etc so that I could manage my expectations, which he discussed honestly. He said there are usually dog ears unless you extend the scars quite a lot, but he said they often flatten by themselves and if not it was very quick and easy to correct them under local anaesthetic once the swelling had gone down. He said he would try to place the scar as low as possible but that the final outcome depended on how much loose skin there was below it, because if there's a lot, it allows the scar to move up with tension. I am quite baggy down there (yuck!) so I knew this would be an issue for me. I put my underwear on in a slightly higher position that I normally would and he said the scar would likely extend a bit from the top waist band at the ends. Once I pulled them up to what I would call 'mum levels' - (sensible but not granny high!!) he said yes, that would probably cover the scar. So it's sensible bikini bottoms for me after this op, at least until the scar fades. He talked me through all the stages and explained that I would only have to keep the drains in for two days because of the newer stitching technique he uses (when he pulls the skin down, he uses lots of small stitches along the way to reattach it to the fascia inside, so the skin is attached more tightly and there's less of a big gap for fluid to build up). He gave me some antibiotics to start taking straight away, told me not to take anything that could cause bleeding (NSAIDs, vit E etc) and he'd see me in the morning. Then I went and paid upfront to the cashier and did some tests (blood test, ECG and chest x-ray because I'm and old lady of 44).

I was nervous and ready to burst into tears on the morning of the operation and it seemed like I was whisked in very quickly after all these years of waiting . Before I knew it I was on my back, arms out while they apply monitoring pads, tubes and the gas mask before drifting into unconciousness. It didn't help that I had to remove my contact lenses and so was blind as a bat. Felt very vulnerable and when Wannie (Mrs Poomee - the sugeon's wife) held my hand as I went under I was ready to start blubbing!

Next thing I knew I was coming round in the recovery room, trussed up in dressings, a bra and binder and feeling very panicky and sorry for myself indeed! Very sick, dizzy, miserable, vulnerable and like I was about to vomit, in fact I thought I already had, but I don't know if I actually did. This was the worst part of the experience. I was being sporadically jostled about on the bed by a lot of young nurses who were all squabbling and gabbing on to each other across me and it felt like I was at the mercy of a lot of Saturday shop girls which was alarming when I felt so vulnerable and clueless. I really wanted there to be a 'grown-up' to take charge and help me and shush them all. I felt quite frightened and miserable and there were communication problems due to my language being very slurred and knowing no Thai, and their busyness and limited English. They kept messing about with my catheter and arguing about it in Thai so I was worried there was a problem. They weren't unkind, just insensitive. Once they understood they gave me a sick bowl and anti-nausea meds. Really I just wanted to be left alone and for a calm older person to say "there there, just relax, everything's OK, nothing to worry about you silly old woman."

They put some pneumatic leg squeezer things on my legs at some point - possibly before the op, to prevent DVT. I loved them and the massaging action was quite a good distraction from all the nausea and discomfort. They took them off when they de-catheterised me on the Sunday - bye bye old friends!!!

Later they took me up to my room where my husband was waiting and I was very pleased to see him, though still quite out of it. I still felt very nauseous and miserable and was terrified of vomiting because of the pain in my abdominal muscles and not wanting to tear the stitches - and just because vomiting is the worst!

From waking up in the recovery room until late on Sunday I felt so rotten that I regretted doing this. If I could have snapped my fingers and just hopped off the bed and gone back to how I was before the op I would have done. If a friend had asked me if they should do it themselves, I'd have said 'no, don't!' I think this was largely because of the medication involved in the general anaesthetic and/or the pain relief that was given intravenously (an opioid). Until that was all out of my system I felt completely wretched, nauseous, dizzy, scared, guilty, and foolish. I was also quite shocked at the level of incapacitation the op involves - I didn't realise how vulnerable it would make me feel. Of course I did know what was involved, I just didn't truly 'get it' until I did it. You daren't move an inch for ages and you're just stuck, very uncomfortable in the bed and you feel very very vulnerable. I also hated the canula that was still stuck in my left hand and stayed until I was discharged - it goes right through me and reminds me of the time my husband grabbed my hand and SQUEEEEEZED with excitement when my daughter was born. I coudn't feel a thing from the birth, I was screaming because he was jamming the bloody needle further and further into my hand!!! I also got a very sore neck, throat and headache from the weird sleeping position and that, the nausea and the canula were what bothered me most, my boobs and stomach being largely numb, though the stomach muscles are very sore, like a major stitch or cramp.

ANYWAY - once the meds were out of my system it was like the sky cleared and the sun came out! Everything started to seem manageable and I started to tentatively imagine a good outcome! Must just say here that I can't believe that I often considered doing this on my own. Now I can't imagine how much worse it would have been if I hadn't had my lovely husband with me. I really needed that support, practically and emotionally. And he gave me a life-saving neck, head and face massage when I had the drug hangover from hell - darling man! That made up for 'the canula incident' 13 years ago.

After we established that I didn't want any more sick-making opioids, I was given 1 x 500mg Tylenol every six hours and antibiotics twice a day I think. I asked them to up the Tylenol to the recommended dose of 2 x 500mg tabs per dose, as per the Tylenol website. They eventually agreed but had to get the doctor's approval to do so and as it was Sunday they couldn't get hold of him for a while. Apparently the lower dose had been prescribed because of some recent findings about Tylenol side effects or something. To me, there's about as much point in taking one Tylenol as there is in using one clove of garlic in your cooking :-)

I have been kept in a position of back of bed raised and knees raised at all times, apparently this helps relieve tension on the scar.

Sleeping was surprisingly OK, uncomfortable but possible. I just woke up a few times but easily went back to sleep. I was offered a sleeping tablet on both nights I was in the hospital but declined - I can usually sleep for England!

Woke with a splitting headache on Sunday which just got worse all day - like a super massive hangover headache that was making me feel nauseous again. Begged for more Tylenol - it was a while before they agreed to give me two per dose. Early doors on Sunday Dr Poomee arrived to say all had gone well and check how I was. I think Mrs Poomee came too and said they should take the catheter out and I should get up to pee. About mid-morning they did this and around lunchtime I shuffled bent over and very very very tentatively on the arms of two nurses to the bathroom. I was surprised to feel as though my breath was taken away and I couldn't speak at first when I was vertical - something to do with your diaphragm no doubt. It's improved every time. The nurses gave me a bit of a wipe down with some clean facecloths and then shuffle shuffle shuffle back to bed.

I won't lie, the binders and bra band are tight and uncomfortable all the time. And I'm really sick of tape stuck on me.

Went to the loo a few more times. It got easier each time. Had to try really really hard not to laugh - trust me DON'T LAUGH OR COUGH at the ridiculousness of the bathroom shuffle. At one point my husband was holding my hand as I shuffled along bent over and I said, and instantly regretted saying 'Aw look, it's like you're taking a chimpanzee for a walk'. DON'T LAUGH!

Oh, forgot to say, I've also been taking daily arnica pills for bruising, colace for constipation and vitamin C for healing from about Wednesday before the op on Saturday. Also had a glass of prune juice on Monday and hey bingo! no constipation!

Monday the drains came out - not pleasant but not terrible. Mrs Poomee (who is a nurse) did it with another nurse. They also changed my dressings and binder. Said I must keep it on, no shower before the appointment on Weds. Later that day checked out of hospital with some more Tylenol and anti-biotics and an appointment card for Wednesday back at the clinic.

Felt like a right idiot in my tracksuit and sunglasses sitting in the wheelchair to go home. Took a bumpy no-seatbelted taxi to the hotel (get an Uber instead, don't know why we didn't). Paranoid about catching a cough or cold from EVERYONE - cannot face the thought of coughing or sneezing.

On arrival at the hotel, crawled out of the taxi and bent over like a demented Mrs Overall attempted to scuttle round the umpteen staff determined to block the path and ceremoniously 'Sawadee Ka!' me while I tried to flee to the shame and privacy of our room!!

Today is Tuesday lunchtime. Still sore but somehow not as much as I thought I'd be. I thought it'd be the incisions that would cause pain, but apart from feeling a little tender and sometimes a bit prickly, they're not a problem. The abdominal muscles are the main concern - still terrified of coughing or making a sudden movement. Eating light but regularly and drinking lots of water. Trying to steer clear of salt to minimise swelling and anything that might constipate me. Watching lots of telly. Lovely husband is going back to Singapore today because he needs to attend something with our daugthter. Will be sorry to see him go but feeling more confident and able every day. Right now, can't imagine going to an airport with a suitcase myself, but maybe by Tuesday (which will be 10 days post-op) I'll feel quite differently. I'll get help at airport just in case I still need it.

Too scared to take off all the bindings and dressings right now but have attached a couple of photos that show a good boob uplift so i'm pleased about that, though I have to say from the view looking down at them they don't look pleasingly round like boobs with an implant do. I opted for lift, no implant. Still, much better than they were.

Oh, one last funny thing - my husband started to open one of two red plastic bags they sent back up to the room with me in hospital thinking it was my pre-op clothes. Thank God before he got it open the nurse told him that my old stomach skin was in one and my lipo fat was in the other!!!!!!! Poor man would have fainted!!! We couldn't get the nurses to throw it away (even though I had signed a form saying I didn't want it) and they seemed surprised we didn't want to see it! I suppose people might be curious but if you're squeamish like me, DO NOT OPEN any mystery red bags!

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April 26, 2016
Hi, I will start following your journey cause I have been searching for mommy makeover in Thailand. as I can only find third parties to do a cosmetic tour and I think it will be cheaper if I go straight to doctor. thanks for sharing your journey. if you don't mind, how much did it cost you for the surgery?
looking at your picture I think you have a good result when you take off your binder. hope you will recover well . again thanks for sharing your journey
April 26, 2016
Hi lengleng, thanks for your comment. It cost 470,000 Thai Baht, or US$13.3K. I chose this Dr because he has a good reputation, he worked for many years in the US and I liked him more than any other surgeon I met. His wife works with him so you feel you have another point of contact throughout. He or his office answer all your emails on the same day. The hospital also has a good reputation. I live in Singapore and it's more than double the cost to do the surgery there and I couldn't find many reviews about the drs online. It's easy for me to come to Bangkok from Singapore and it's comparably cheap to stay in a nice hotel while you recuperate. Good luck with your research!
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April 27, 2016
wow what a shocker!!! Seeing the stomach skin lol. Bet you don't miss it!! Your experience in how you were feeling was everything I went through as well. Especially the early regret and what have I done???? You are right though, as the meds wear off and the nausea subsides you start to feel like everything is more manageable. I am glad your husband was there for you. Thank God. You really don't realize how helpless you can be without the support. I relied very heavily on my husband and he was amazing too. It sounds like although early in recovery you are glad you went ahead with things. Please keep updates. I am not on here as often lately due to being back to work but I still would love to hear progress reports.
April 27, 2016
Thanks latteluvin! It's reassuring to hear that what you're experiencing is all normal. The big reveal today! Will try to get some photos. Maybe ;-)
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April 27, 2016
Yay!! Cant wait to see!
June 11, 2016
Awesome!!! Thanks for sharing. My plan is to have my surgery in November. Reading your story has given me confidence in my decision to have a better body. I have been wanting a tummytuck for 20 years. I will be traveling alone and hoping for the best...still looking for stories of travelers who have done this without someone traveling with them.
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Day 5 post op update

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Op was Saturday, today is Thursday. Today was the first day I could stand up almost completely straight. I am sleeping well and woke up feeling significantly better - abs feel less sore. I usually take Voltaren 75mg twice a day for Ankylosing Spondylitis (random back inflammation) but had to stop in preparation for surgery as it's an NSAID drug which may cause bleeding. Anyway, I took one for the first time at bedtime last night and I feel significantly less swollen and sore today - not sure if it's the Voltaren or just the regular healing process. Despite feeling better, I still took it easy all day, just stayed in my hotel room and did a bit of stuff on my laptop etc. I'm taking advantage of the peace and quiet before returning home, putting my feet up as often as possible.

Yesterday I saw Dr Poomee for a follow up review. It was uncomfortable to go there as I was still fairly stooped etc. I am also paranoid about catching a cold because it is murder on your abs when you cough so I'm avoiding going outdoors/getting in taxis and lifts etc.

He removed the bindings and dressings and took some fairly gruesome photos. I couldn't stand with normal upright posture so I look very boxy and osteoporotic in them. I still look very bruised and lumpy, with swelling below the stomach incision creating a pot-belly which he assures me will all settle down. No pronounced dog ears as yet, the slight one I saw he felt would go away on its own... The scar was higher than I would choose but then I expected that. I pulled my underwear up to cover it for the photos - nice and frumpy! Although my boobs are a bit misshapen right now (which he said will all settle down) I was impressed by how much sag he got rid of. However, today, when I look at them, I wish they'd been lifted a little higher up my torso (which I can achieve by pulling them up from above the nipple), but I'm quite prepared to accept that that may not have been possible - they are very low set to start with. Maybe they'd look higher up if I'd had a small implant, as there is very little fullness above the nipple, but I chose not to. In fact, he told me a few years ago when I first met him that the only way I could achieve fullness above the nipple was with an implant. I was pleased with the areola reduction. So, in a nutshell, pleased with the surgery but still not feeling much love for my god-given figure. I'll keep watching my diet and will do something like Pilates to tone and build muscle when I'm allowed. I suppose the lesson is to accept what you've been given and make the best of it, instead of wishing for what you can never have.

He put gauze over my incisions (without tape because my skin has really reacted badly to the tape - I knew it was up to no good! It was driving me mad!) and put the binder back on considerably tighter and gave me a new soft cotton bra. He said I can wear my own bras but I must wear the soft one while in bed at night. He told me it was OK to stand up straight now when it's possible and that I could sleep in any position except on my front.

He didn't remove the external sutures yet, I'm assuming he'll do that at my appointment on Monday afternoon before I go home on Tuesday. I had the kind of 'anchor incision' uplift on my boobs and I'm surprised to see that the lower curve of the scar doesn't sit on the crease where the boob meets the torso - it's slightly higher up on the boob. I wonder if that's normal? It will make wearing a bra more comfortable I suppose.

He said wait until Saturday to shower because it was very difficult to replace the binder by yourself. He gave me a set of 'before (during!!!) and after' photos to keep (won't they look nice in the family album?). I'm still taking the arnica, vit C and Colace.

I just took another quick look at my boobs and the shape looks much more natural today - just wish they were a bit higher up my torso aaaaarrrghhh!!!! This is so typical of my mentality and I will just have to tell myself to 'shut up'! Will post some more photos tomorrow.

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April 29, 2016
Thanks for sharing everything in your updates. Hang in there it will definitely get better for you as time goes on. It is pretty overwhelming 5 days post op especially with not being able to stand up straight. That's excruciating and off without having any extra back problem too. I hope you're able to get good rest. I think this surgery is so much to take in emotionally. I mean sure we read about people having highs and lows but you definitely go through many different emotions in dealing with the new body. So far you look great I hope you're happy. It took my boobs a few weeks to settle. How right you are though about accepting ourselves. I wish that process was easier at times. How long do you have to wear the binder for? I know what you mean about being afraid to get a cold coughing is excrutiatingly tough on the tummy tuck and I was nauseous and had dry heaves after my surgery and that was so painful in my stomach. Thank God it was temporary. I look forward to seeing more pictures and updates from you wishing you the best
April 29, 2016
Thanks for that. Every day is a bit different at the moment - usually better but sometimes a bit of a step backwards. I agree with you about the emotional impact. I think I have hung so much on making these changes over the years that it will take some mental adjustment to realize that I am still just 44 year old me. From a purely pragmatic point, I am glad to have done it. I now need to manage my emotional expectations, if you know what I mean. How are you feeling about it all at your point of the journey?
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April 29, 2016
Prior to having any surgery I think I was just at a point where I felt sick of societal pressures on women,my own standards of what I wanted to look like and I was sick of my own out of control behaviors that I put my body through with food. Bingeing and trying to excessively workout etc. I work in a very male dominated place and as a female you constantly overhear men talk about women on the physical level. To some extent this made me hyper aware of all my flaws to the point that I think I internalized it so much..... I don't want you to think I'm bashing men in anyway because I'm not. I think it just feels like as women we are constantly pushed 2 achieve some level of perfection on the outside but we're always going to find it never meets our expectations or other people's standards. So I think I feel a lot like you we just have to accept and love what you have and who you are. But that's just such a journey in and of itself I think a lifelong 1. I wish I could tell you I'm there even though I'm pleased with the results of the surgery it's just mentally I don't think that pressure goes away. Sure I got the surgery but now the pressure is you have to maintain it. Sometimes I think I feel like I'm on the treadmill I can't get off. Hope that didn't make you too depressed LOL. It's just my particular battle. I hope every day is more and more better for you. And I hope that you also feel more and more at peace. It does help me when I get too emotional to focus on my blessings. I do have a wonderful husband and children and they've been very supportive. I try to keep that in mind when pressure in this world get me down. Hope you have a wonderful day
April 29, 2016
I'm so with you on that. There's way too much pressure from our society, the men in it and definitely ourselves. I think life is very competitive. I got very bitter for a couple of years when I finally realized how truly superficially many men regard women, as being just something there for their pleasure and if we don't look a certain way they, sometimes literally, don't even see us. I got very sick of how much effort we put in and oftentimes how little they put in yet they are so judgmental and dismissive of us. Nowadays I'm more relaxed about it because in truth I don't want that kind of guy's attention, approval or company anymore. They're boring and juvenile and can't hold an entertaining conversation. I'm only interested in spending my time on decent men who treat everybody well, regardless of gender. And I also realized what great girlfriends I have whom I'd much rather spend time with. I think that came with age. It must be harder for you to have that dismissive attitude when you work in the environment that you do. You seem like a very intelligent and compassionate person and you look fabulous, so why not go ahead and fall a little bit in love with yourself - you sound and look great. I'm going to try to reengineer my thinking so that i set a realistic goal and then say "this is good enough". Then I'm going to experience the choices I make to maintain that as a pleasure because of the payoff. If I don't do that, I'll remain under soul-destroying pressure to maintain some unreachable notion of perfection. Sounds like you're in a bit of a slump right now. I try to see my emotions as weather these days - sometimes gloomy clouds blow in, sometimes terrible storms, but it's only weather, it's not 'real' and it always drifts off again eventually and the sun comes out again. Maybe you're feeling a bit of anticlimax after the thrill of your op's results? I can definitely imagine that happening to me. think the delay in getting back to normal levels of activity and fitness will be a challenge too. How close do you feel to being 'back to normal' at this stage? Btw, I don't include my husband in the man criticism - he's a good one. I should know, I trained him (only joking ;-))
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April 30, 2016
You know reading this I felt so many things!! I came home from work a few weeks before surgery was scheduled and I cried years of anger to my husband about these very things you said!! I was so mad at how dismissed women can be a nd how much pressure there is in this world on a woman to be be perfect and how men are not held to these super high physical standards. How they could go to the beach but not be ridiculed if they were overweight or if they were hired at the company their credentials background or personality would be discussed butt if it was reversed the first thing that would be talked about is how does she look??? This really is a heavy yoke in my opinion for a woman to bear. I feel like at times I'm really in a funk over it. And then like you said you know you just have to let it go. I definitely don't want to be some bitter woman it's just something that I guess come in from the work environment but I do Andover hearing the discussions that I hear it makes me very upset and frustrated to see that we really can be looked upon as mere objects. Thank you for fully understanding this. As far as enjoying everything in terms of where I'm at well I have to tell you that sounds really crazy but I feel like my new body so to speak is only on loan and that I have to work so hard to maintain but I often wonder what will be the point that I burn out? And then I have to examine myself and my motives and really I guess I just didn't want to be an object of ridicule physically. I mean all joking aside I can be one mentally because I usually don't hold back what I think and so being a female you can be thought of as a bit**. And I think getting off my normal rituals and routines are also part of feeling upset at times. You're very encouraging and so I really appreciate that it. And thank you for the kind words you said. Yes I definitely think I have to be re-engineered my thoughts as well and your philosophy is Right On Target to what I know to be true as well. There's only so much that can be done and the rest is acceptance. I'm glad you have loving husband and I do as well and so that's encouraging when these things really weighed heavily on . I also agree it's so good to have strong female friendships that really can encourage and support when dealing with these kind of things . I feel pretty close to being back to normal for the most part I go back Monday for another follow-up. I should be close to two months by then maybe one week shy and I'm hoping to get the green light for more activity level. You are funny about training your husband lol I know what you mean! ;) thanks for sharing that I'm so glad somebody said what I've been thinking. It really helps validate that you're not going crazy when you feel these things.
April 30, 2016
Absolutely agree - it's nice to know you're not alone and just being 'a difficult bi***' as many might see it!! Good luck with your check up - let us know how it goes. Glad we connected on here!
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May 1, 2016
I'm glad to have connected with you also!! Thanks for the support. Please keep your updates coming. I hope everyday is brighter for you :)
May 3, 2016
Hello How are you getting on ? I hope no news is good news !? I have an appt with Dr Poomee tmrw, do you feel more pleased/optimistic about the whole mommy makeover now ? Does it feel worth it yet ?
May 3, 2016
Hi. Yes it's all progressing well. I haven't posted any new photos because I'm still pretty bruised up and swollen etc, but everything is progressing well. I can now walk about pretty normally but can't lift anything heavy and get tired easily and go very carefully so as not to trip or have to make any sudden movements. Last night I went out for dinner with my husband and had a celebratory glass of Champagne and a nice meal but paid for it during the night as very uncomfortable - felt numb, swollen and skin felt sore so a bad night's sleep. That was the most uncomfortable I've been since I was in hospital. Feel ok again today. Had the stitches out yesterday which was just slightly prickly and uncomfortable but fine. I saw myself naked again at the appointment. There's still considerable swelling around the incision, I'm very numb on the abdomen where the skin was separated and still very bruised - all to be expected as I do bruise badly anyway. If I could wave a magic wand I would lift my boobs a little bit higher so there was a bit more fullness above the nipple and I would lower my scar, but those are not criticisms of Dr Poomee as my boobs are enormously improved and the scar is exactly as he told me it would be. Overall, I am glad I did it so far. If things continue to improve and the scar fades well I feel I will be very glad I did it. I suspect I may have to return for a small revision on a slight dog ear on the end of the abdomen scar but apparently that's easily done under local anaesthetic in the office. I haven't discussed this with Dr Poomee yet because he thinks it will go away when the swelling subsides.
Overall, I think the procedure was a much bigger deal and more shocking than I could have anticipated, but now I've done it, I'm glad I did. Would I do it again or recommend it? Not sure. Hope that helps.
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January 5, 2017
Hi there, Can I ask, did you get your TT with Dr Poomee in the Bumrungrad? If so, how did it go? I'm just starting to research for surgeons and he's top of my list so far so any pointers, or even photos if you have any, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks.
March 9, 2017
Hi, yes I did. I'm very happy with what he did. It was definitely worth it.
September 8, 2017
Hi! I'm from Sg too n would like more info from u? Can we get in touch privately? TIA!