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My Long Awaited Journey Has Begun... - Buffalo, NY

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If you're reading this then you already know...

GnrGirl2
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If you're reading this then you already know pretty much everything I am going to say. My breast's have put a damper on my life since the 8th grade. Sexual harassment, accusations of "stuffing my bra" and pain in my back, shoulders and neck have been my close friend since I was 12. Last Wednesday I received the letter in the mail from my insurance company ( Independent Health) that it's good-bye to all those burdens. I had a consult with my PS on March 9th. It was very quick to the point kind of appointment. He told me all the con's of the procedure, did measurements of my chest, looked at my back and shoulders and basically told me that from that point on it was an insurance waiting game. He also explained that it was a good chance that I would be denied. Wait, Denied?! How?! I am 24 year's old 5'6'' and weigh 160 lbs. Granted, I weigh a little more than when I was 19, but majority of my heaviness is presented nicely in my button-up shirts that seem to be screaming " HELP ME" around the breast area due to my 34 DDD/E/F breast.

On a side note I never found a proper fitting bra because they are SO large so I always bought whatever bra fit comfortably, or whatever bra smushed them against my chest to make them appear "smaller " Which in reality, didnt make them look smaller it only made them look wide or gives you the "meat biscuit" ( The part of the boob that buldges out of the top of the bra)...Ok sorry went off on a tangent. When he told me i could possibly be denied, I immediately went home and wrote a denial appeal letter because I was determined to have this done. It's been the only thing I have ever truly wanted. When I asked my PS why he thought I might get denied, he said the insurance companies have instated a new scale to measure the "medical necessity" based on numbers. It's something called the "Schnur Scale" and it operates by gathering the percentage of weight your breasts make up of your overall weight of your body and it puts a gold standard on who get's the surgery and who doesnt. I suppose it makes sense, they do not want every overweight woman strolling into the office looking for a fast way to drop ten pounds. But to make a "Standard" it's like they're saying " Hey, even though you are a size 4, weigh 140 lbs with 10lbs of that weight is on your chest in your 32 DD tiggle bitties...go home...lose 10-15lbs and come back and your boobs should be a B cup by then..Thanks, Buh-Bye" That seems absurd to me. Every body is different, and even though I weigh a little more, it doesn't mean if i lose 20 lbs it would just be my breasts. Trust me, tried it. I lose the weight everywhere BUT my breasts. And, exercise, Forget it...Don't even get me started on exercise OUCH! It is a genetic deposit of fat cells for me.

My sister, niece and Aunt all had Bi-lateral Reduction Mammaplasty's and still say to this day it was the best decision they have ever made. So, for all you ladies awaiting an approval dont get nervous, just stay positive and believe you will get it and you will. But before I recieved my approval letter I waited 4 weeks and still had not heard a WORD from the insurance company so i decided to call and check up. When i called i spoke with a nice woman whom informed me that my PS never submitted a request for an approval. What?! I'm pretty sure you could see the steam piping out of my ears. I proceeded immediately to calling my PS office and requesting to speak with the office manager immediately. She tell's me that my "file and request just slipped through the cracks..." Slips thru the cracks? You mean slipped up YOUR crack? Were you sitting on it? It was like my heart sunk. Now im thinking in my worried mind " Is this how the surgery is going to go? Are they going to forget my medication? are they going to forget to schedule my surgery? is the Doctor or the staff even dependable? So I bring my concerns to the office manager and she explains how terribly sorry they are and they will do everything in their power to make this situation right. After that incident my request was approved in 2 days. The turn-around for surgery approval requests with independent health is a maximum of 72 hours. So I waited 4 long highly anticipated running-to-the-mail-box-every-morning weeks to get an approval that only takes 72 hours? Oh HELL no. I called the office back when i recieved my approval and explained to them how upset i was and that i do not want to wait due to THEIR mistake. i already waited 4 weeks longer than i should have. They apologized and I explained the only thing that would work for me is if they schedule the surgery around MY time because I was forced to wait because of their mistake. My appointment to set up Surgery date is tomorrow (Thursday April 27th at 4 PM) I am still a little nervous about proceeding with this Doctor because I have some doubts. But everything is set in motion and I dont want to be set back AGAIN. I just want to have this surgery and start living a normal life. Ive been seeing a chiropractor for 6 months and it has not changed a darn thing. It makes my work day more manageable but it DOES NOT relieve my pain or symptoms.

I am a Dental Hygienist and the weight of my breasts put a lot of strain on my neck. In my profession, my neck and shoulder and back need to be as straight and perfectly posturally correct as possible in order to maintain proper ergonomics to ensure longevity in my field. If I couldn't get this surgery there would be no possible way i could continue in my career. I am on my way to having this done, it is such a relief to know it will be covered. But i was only approved for "outpatient surgery" I am under the assumption that means I will have surgery and go home. Well my PS told me it was important that i stay the night to ensure comfort and proper care in a very volatile time. So, should I call my insurance company and see if they will cover an inpatient? I dont know, I am SO confused and kinda scared. If anyone has any recommendations i would REALLY appreciate it. I am so grateful for this website. It taught me so much about reductions and really inspired me to share my story because I am grateful for everyone else's story. I hope mine helps someone.

I also wrote a little "venting" journal about my breasts a few years ago and i would like to share it because if you're reading it. Im sure you can DEFINITELY relate to these What I Would Give To … • Live a day as a normal –chest-sized woman without the bitter weight of two sacks of (in my case) purposeless skin bags hanging on my body. • Jog a couple miles without the restraints of 2 to 3 bras to reinforce their position on my chest, rather than my chin or belly button. • Refuse a drunk man’s request of “show me your boobs!” not because I am embarrassed of the size and shape of my breast, but to say No in essence to preserve my self-dignity. • Buy a dress to fit my size 8/10- body without having to increase the overall size to insure accurate fittings around the jubblies. • Go to the beach without the gawking and whispering of “How much yah think those puppies cost?” • Have a conversation with eye contact. • Refer to my actual bra as the “over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder” rather than the muscle that connects my shoulder blades together. • Wear a strapless top without the need for extra material and efforts from the local tailor. • Wear a button up dress shirt without the middle button looking so stressed as if it were screaming “Help Me” • Buy a shirt because I enjoy it, not because it “makes em’ look smaller” • Ride my bike without knee-ing my breasts with every up-stroke of the pedal. • Avoid Swamp-Tit • Have a normal 24-year-old body that doesn’t resemble that of a woman whom seems to breastfeeding an infant ALL THE TIME. • Work a 4-hour shift and not resemble Quasimodo when I am finished. • Be happy and comfortable in my own skin. Any comments and advise helps!

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April 26, 2012
Hey, good having you here! I think that you should definitely call your insurance company and explain what your doctor may require and see what they will cover. I personally think that any surgery like this should be considered an inpatient procedure insurance wise... I'd also ask the PS if it would be possible to go home in case the insurance won't cover. There are a lot of women on here that have the surgery and then go home and return to their PS the next day to be seen, checked over and such. I hope and pray the best for you and will be keeping up with your posts, feel free to contact me at anytime and I also have a review listed that may answer some questions you may have. Also, the many lovely ladies on here are so open and friendly, it's like a big family! Make yourself at home! Keep us all posted and we are continually rooting you on!
April 27, 2012
Thank you for your great words. I am very nervous but more excited than anything. Im very happy to be apart of this community because it truly did help me so much! I will take all the advice given!
April 27, 2012

Welcome Girl! Thanks for sharing your story. I could relate to so much of your review and especially your diary. Some parts made me laugh, others made me want to cry. I think you probably had your surgery today. I hope it all went well. I will be anxious to hear how it went. I think a lot of insurances will cover a 23 hours outpatient hospital stay. That way you can stay overnight as long as you are released in under 23 hours.

Hope to hear from you soon!
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Thursday April 27th had sencond appt to discuss...

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Thursday April 27th had sencond appt to discuss surgery. It went well very brief again. He was in and out and didnt really allow me anytime to think about questions. He told me i need to decide on one of two different incisions for the surgery. This is where i might need some help from you guys. He gave me 2 choices
1.) The inverted T, removes the breast tissue from around the nipple, sides and underneath of the breast leaving a scar around the areola, down the midline of the breast and underneath the crease of the breast.( Scar resembling a T) Pro's - Removing more skin and tissue gives the breast an uplifted look and better overall appreance. Con's - More scarring, scars could possibly be visible in low cut shirts or tank tops that reveal skin around the arm pit region. Longer healing time
2.) The "short scar" also known as the vertical scar. This incision entails a scar around the areola and down the midline. Nothing but that. Pro's - Less tissue removed, fast heal time. Con's - Usually used in woman with 32DDD and under breasts, not really ideal for woman with pendulous appearing breast because it doesnt really give them a "lift" (or from what i read on this site) about the vertical or lollypop technique.

Now everywhere i read there all these different opinions on which incision is "the best" and i understand that it is all according to my breast's and my ultimate goal i am trying to reach. When i asked my PS what he thought he told me " its ultimately my decision" and told me to google the difference. Im really starting to not feel confortable with him. I just feel like he doesnt have time for me and i am constantly rushed in and out. Well i guess that is the business right. So ultimately i need some MAJOR advice from you ladies or if there is a way to ask a doctor on here. Im kinda new to this whole thing and dont really understand how it works. But surgery is Scheduled May 30th at 5:30am. So nervous!

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April 27, 2012
I can relate to you SO much..your review made me literally LOL at a few parts. :) Im a little heavier than you..but our "girls" are VERY similar in shape/size etc. Ive done through probably hundreds of before and afters trying to find "my" boobs..and you are probably the closest! lol What size do you want to be? My PS JUST does out patient, and didnt give me an option regarding incision..but I felt really good after my consult. Im trying not to over think my decision right now..I have a WHOLE month to go. Good Luck..and Im anxious to watch your journey. :)
April 30, 2012
Im happy someone looks like me too! so you know how uncomfortable they are, especially because they are so saggy :( I want to be a C cup but my PS told me to be a D. I just dont want to be big amymore. I feel very resentful towards my breasts. But congrats on your journey and i will be watching yours also! Good Luck
April 27, 2012

I totally misread your initial review. After rereading it, I realize that yesterday was your appointment. Sorry about my confusion!

I had the inverted T, also called the anchor, technique. I was really worried about it because I had seen some pictures where the scars were really large and wasn't sure I could deal with that. I went to my initial consultation asking for the lollipop technique trying to avoid that HUGE scar. However my PS said that in his experience he couldn't get that to work very well for him, especially on women who were have a large reduction (I was a 34H) So even though I wasn't going to be able to get what I was hoping for I still went with him, because I respected the fact that he was willing to lose a "sale" to do what he felt was best rather than just wanting my money. I am 8 months post op now and my breasts have held up nicely, my scars are minimal and you can't see the scars on the underside of the breast at all.  I do not regret having this technique used on me.

On the other hand many women have had the lollipop and are thrilled with it. They say that they have a very natural shaped breast with great lift. So I think it is your personal decision and your doctor's recommendation, however if your doctor isn't being overly helpful with your decision that is extra hard.

You can ask the doctor's on this site their opinion. Just go to the Q&A portion and post your answer and the docs will start responding. Good luck with your decision. This month will fly by!
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April 28, 2012
Hi Girl, I had the "short scar method" and I'm very happy with my results. Infact I love them! If you look at my before and after you will see there was a defiant lift and my breasts were prettty droopy. The healing time was easier when comparing to some of the others. Good luck on your decision.
April 29, 2012
Yes youre right, you def have a lift for sure. I just feel like my breast might be too big for that procedure. I think i am going to ask on Q&A portion of this website. Thank you!
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I received my information packet in the mail...

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I received my information packet in the mail yesterday. It has all instructions on what to do before and after surgery and it also has my next two appts before my surgery. So, tell me if this sounds weird. My surgery is on Wednesday May 30th at 5:30 am, My "per-operative" appointment is Thursday May 24th. I thought this was strange because my PS told me at my Pre-op appt is usually the day before the surgery and that he would be marking my breast's for the incisions. But they couldn't schedule me the day before (Tuesday the 29th) because he doesn't work or he is in the OR on that day... So will i walk around for 6 days with marking's on my boobs? I'm pretty sure they will wash off or something, im crazy about showering everyday. Every time I call KI cant get ahold of anyone so I guess I will just ask on the 24th. Ive heard alot of women say that they're PS did the marking's on the breast the day of the surgery. So maybe he just wants to look, take notes and talk about the procedure. I go to the hospital for blood tests next saturday at 9:00am. I will update then, any comments would be helpful! Thanks ladies

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May 6, 2012
Hi GnrGirl, I think it is a little weird that your PS is "leaving it up to you". Isn't he the Dr.? Is this Dr. board certified? He should be reassuring you every step of the way. I also think it's weird about the markings, he should mark you right before you go into surgery. Of course they will wash off. Maybe he meant that he would mark you the week before so you can get an idea of what he will do. I would get a quick second opinion if you can and google this Dr, make sure he has no complaints filed or anything. I went in to my pre-op with a whole list of questions and the Dr. answered every one. I don't mean to be a downer but at the same time this is your body we are talking about. : )
May 7, 2012
I know that's what i was thinking! Personally, i think he is giving woman a choice of their incisions because maybe patients started to read about the lollipop and if he was only performing the inverted T patients probably threw it back at him like " Why didnt i have a choice on my incision if they both work just the same?". So now instead of dealing with angry patients he just gives them the choice because he doesnt want it to back-fire if they dont like the scarring because ultimately it was " their decision" you know? But who knows! And according to reviews his work is wonderful, i have seen it personally and my sister is a PA and did a rotation during her clinical's with him and he is fantastic. He is board certified and has been practicing for 20 years. I just think his bed-side manner is a little less "touchy feely". I am going to continue my surgery with him because he is the only surgeon in this area that i truly trust to do this. The only other Dr. I would have chosen does not accept my insurance and to be frank, i couldnt afford this procedure without the help of my insurance. So, i will keep you updated thank you so much for your input it truly helps me ALOT! i need all the advice i can recieve so keep it comin ;)
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May 7, 2012
That sounds good! Not all Dr's have good bedside manners! I am sure everything will work out just fine. If your insurance is paying, you could ask for a 10 minute appointment and bring your list of questions. : )
May 6, 2012
Even though surgical markers are pretty indelible, I would guess he will mark you up the day of. You're going to be so happy! I went from a DD to a C and it's easily one of the best things I've ever done for myself.
May 6, 2012
Okay, I just read more of your story and I have to agree with Marla - he should be giving you his opinion on which method will best suit your breasts. I can appreciate the fact that he is giving you some input, and that in itself is a sign of a good doctor, but not recommending one or the other is troublesome. Have you consulted any other docs? What are his before and after pics like? Have you checked Angies List or Vitals.Com for reviews? Its so important to feel comfortable with your physician - after all, he will be giving you the boobs you'll have for the rest of your life. Best of luck.
May 6, 2012
Three comments in a row... This must be a record. Haha. Anyway, I wanted to mention, if you do end up going with this doc and choosing your method, that I had the inverted T (or anchor as its also called) and am super satisfied. It created a beautiful shape and as you can see from my pics, the scars are places where they're hardly visible. Again, good luck.
May 7, 2012
If you posted 800 times i would be happy! I love comments!!! I think I'm on Realself more than facebook now! haha! Like i said in the response to Marla, he is the only surgeon i trust to do this. He is Board certified and practicing for 20 years, i think maybe it's become repetitive and they just get the patients in and out. He has a ton of patients and i think that is a good sign. His office isnt run as well as i think it could be(being a healthcare provider). But I have made the decision to go with the inverted T, but i am still going to ask him his opinion like " I've already made my decision, but before I tell you i would like to hear your opinion to confer that we are both on the same page" I think my breasts are too large to have the lollipop. But we shall see, Thank you so much for commenting!
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May 8, 2012
Hi! Nice to virtually "meet" you! Truly relate to you "resentment" of your breasts; the perfect description for met, too! While I agree 100% with Marla and Kate re: your doctor's less than fabulous answers/approach, I think the proof is in the pudding. If you've seen multiple examples of his work and are confident he's "the man", then you have your answer. I had a friend whose Dad was a general surgeon and I remember hi saying "if you have a choice between a surgeon with real technical skill or a surgeon with great bedside manner, then you really don't have choice at all". Despite that, I still need to feel I have good communication with any physician. I'd actually give up 10% of the "skill" factor to feel comfortable with a surgeon. But that's MY choice. You've seen his work, so can probably live without the "relationship" aspect because you KNOW he's going to do a great job. I would, however and nonetheless, go to my next appointment with a written down list of questions (including that of markings) and politely insist on answers. It's so easy to be intimidated n these situations - even for the most confident of us. Sometimes, the surgeon just needs enough push-back to be reminded there's a person and a personality behind the flesh. You might be pleasantly surprised :)
May 8, 2012
It's true and i agree with you 100% i have started a little list of questions because i do feel as tho i am being "bull-dozed" a little. So i have my list ready to go. His bed side manner yes, indeed sucks but i do feel comfortable with his technical skills and i dont have that achey gut feeling like "are you making the right decision?" Thanks for all your help i hope you keep up with my post!
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May 8, 2012
You sound as though you're on a good track. When you have your list of questions, consider posting them here. You might not hear anything new, but then again, someone may weigh-in with something you hadn't considered. Just a thought. I most certainly will be following your progress; please keep us posted and best of luck moving forward!