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Full Arm Tattoo, Major Regret, Now What to Do...? - Box Hill, Australia

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The next and biggest step!!

Lumiera
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As many of you know, my story is a little different to some of yours... I too experienced major tattoo regret in my initial stages only to then embrace, and actually love my tattoo... Today was the final exemplication of that love by extending on the work to encompass most of my arm. I want to say, I love my tattoo today more than ever. I am at peace with everything about it. Most importantly I want everyone to know that time, acceptance and appreciation can actually become not just a path to loving your tattoo, but to loving yourself... There are so many things we hate about ourselves that we can't change. Yet we so often neglect to simply change "that" we hate what we can't change... I've posted some pictures of today's work, and as my story ends here, I can only hope this is where some of your stories begin. Love.

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Phillip Bekhor, MBBS, FACD

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January 31, 2015

Not only do I adore your new artwork, I can't get enough of your positive and inspiring life messages! You should write a book! Can't wait to see more, thank you for updating. 

January 31, 2015
Your tattoo is really amazing..!! And thank you for sharing you story.
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February 1, 2015

So happy your path has led you here, to this place of happiness.  Your fantastic, completely unique and stunning tattoo, plus a willingness to open yourself, has managed to transform your life.  If I hadn't seen it myself, I might not believe it, LOL!  Good luck and success in all of your future endeavors!

February 1, 2015
Thank you for sharing your story. I wish i could be the same way. I've had my tattoo for almost 6yrs. With each passing year I hate it more. I've been unemployed for a while and cannot afford the treatment. It's causing me horrible panic attacks and making me very depressed. It's on my arm and I am so embarrassed by it. I won't even look for a job because I don't want anybody to see it. I want this thing gone so bad.
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When things turn a corner...

Lumiera
Hi All,

So I thought it was definitely time I updated my progress… It’s been a life altering experience to say the least, both physical and mental, but what a ride! Obviously you’ll see by my past comments that things started out very rough, I went through some severe issues of regret, to the point of thinking that I absolutely hated this tattoo and wanted it removed…

I’m happy to say that I am probably more in love with my tattoo now than I ever thought I would have been. To the point that I’ve even booked in to have more done to it!! Is it perfect, no… is it exactly how I want it to be, no… but has it taken me on one of the most rewarding adventures of self-discovery I’ve ever been on, YES! I look at my arm most days and think, “Gee I’d like to change that part”, or “I wish I’d used a different colour there”... and you know what the irony is? Every single day, it’s a different colour I think of, or a different pattern…!! That’s just how we are, that’s basic human nature at play… and the irony is quite simply, tattoos are one of the only things in life you just can’t change as soon as you change your mind… I mentioned din an earlier post that I equate it to the whole disposable society, or too many options thing… it really is that case… I mean ask yourself, do you know anyone in the world that has worn the same clothes, lived in the same house, and owned the same car FOREVER???!! No way!! We change, our tastes change, we want things to be different, and so we should, it’s our choice…!

What I have learnt and am totally certain of now is this: In order to be a tattooed person, you need to be able to surrender perfection, idealism and the ability to change at a whim. Not for every aspect of life, but at least for the aspect of getting a permanent body alternation… But, that being said, if you want to get your tattoo changed or removed, then you can, that’s one of the gifts of modern technology. Is it expensive?, yes!, does it take a long time?, yes! But nothing that was every good was easy!!

Another thing I have learnt through this journey is we are our own worst enemies in some cases… Initially, I fell into the worst state of depression with this tattoo, simply out of the way I was telling myself what had happened. “I had destroyed my body”, “I didn’t think about it long enough”, “I didn’t think about the design long enough”, “I let the artist do what they wanted”, “I got it where too many people could see it”… and a million other things. The main problem… listen to how I was talking to myself! How could I ever feel better about myself when every minute I was trying to tell myself how hopeless I was, how much I failed, and how much I let myself down? The other thing we do, is we look ourselves indoors in this slum so no one can tell us any different…! As soon as I stepped outside, I actually felt better about my tattoo, I remembered why I got it, why I wanted it for so long, and what it actually meant to me… It’s also worth mentioning that I probably wouldn’t have ever stepped back outside if it wasn’t for this community and the shared stories and positive comments from everyone… it really changed my perspective on things.

If there’s a single piece of advice I can give to anyone going through regret or remorse, its two things: Time and Perspective. Give yourself some time to get used to your new look, and allow your mind to move away from the negative perspective we can’t help but apply to the issue. I get so many comments on my tattoo, so many compliments, and so many people tell me that it’s something they’ve never seen before. When I first looked at it, I hated it because I thought it was something no one had ever seen before!! But then I had to remember why I got it in the first place… another thing we have a really bad habit of forgetting whilst in this state of depression.

Anyway, my point is, I’m now at a really good place where I not only love my tattoo, but I am proud of it, and thankful for it simply for what it has given me. I’m going to get more work done on it, which I will inevitable regret for a while, and I’ll want to change, and I’ll grow to love!! One day I may get it all lazered off, or maybe just some of it so I can make some changes, or I may leave it exactly how it is forever and get other parts of my body tattooed? Who knows!!

Regardless, it’s all part of the journey… I hope that for some, your journey is one of getting to love your body art, and I hope for the others, that your removal journey is smooth, fast and cost effective. With this new Picoway laser on the market now, I think we’ll see even better results than before…

One thing I do want to advise, more than anything, if you have found this forum and this post, and got your tattoo in the past 30 days… wait… don’t panic… don’t hide your tattoo, and for the love of God, DON’T STAY INDOORS WITH ONLY YOURSELF. Take your tattoo out to meet people, show it off, remember why you got it, and remember YOU ARE STILL YOU!! It could turn out that you fall in love with your art given half a chance, and if you don’t… then you do have the power to get it removed, or covered, or whatever you like.

Just don’t hate yourself, don’t bash yourself mentally and don’t feel that this has in anyway had any effect on your life, your goals, or your dreams… everything will be ok.

Much love…

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November 12, 2014
Such an inspiring post. So pleased to hear that you are liking your tattoo now and that you were able to get out and show it off. Don't be a stranger, we'd love to see how you're getting on with it!
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November 12, 2014
I love your updates, this was such an amazing post! I admire your outlook on life and on the reality of tattoo regret. You sum it up perfectly. You're so right, time and perspective is key when you are in this situation. I am so proud of you, and I am actually really excited to see what you add to your tattoo. Please continue to share your thoughts with us, and any photos, or video (if you're brave) of you new tattoos. I look forward to your updates...thanks for being an inspiration in the community!!
November 13, 2014
Thank you! Its been my pleasure sharing my story, and its been such a great avenue to express my feelings while on this roller coaster. I'll definitely keep posting updates, and I'll put up some new pics soon...
November 12, 2014
I really enjoyed reading your update, I feel better with my tattoo regret even if I still don't want to keep mine I really admire yours and the way you think, thank you very much and have a nice day!
November 13, 2014
thank you, Im glad you like my tattoo.. Im glad many people do... and Im very grateful that it has allowed me to share my story. All the best with your removal journey, looking forward to seeing your results...
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November 13, 2014
I wished there was a "super like" button. You've so eloquently laid out your story for many people who will find this story when they are searching on tattoo removal. I honestly don't think you'll have any idea of how your words will help people with hope, perspective, and overall honest self reflection. And thanks for the shout out to the community...I agree with you. I'm blown away by each of you who continue to lift, understand and support. I LOVE my job today. Thank you and happy thoughts coming your way for your full circle.
November 13, 2014
I'm more than happy to contribute, it is the absolute least I can do given how much strength I found through this community. The lesson here is nothing is perfect, ever... there is basically no such thing, but learning to live with imperfection, and even to appreciate it is what I've experienced on this journey... Hopefully some others may also.
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everyone has a bad day.... right?

Lumiera
So as with everything, there are ups and downs... not everything is great all of the time. Today hasn't been the best day ever, thats for sure. I wouldn't say that Ive fallen into a hole of depression, but its definitely been a day of ups and downs...

I guess the good news for all of us today is that the new Picoway laser has been approved by the FDA of America, and will no doubt be on the uptake for the rest of the world early next year. This laser is meant to be yet another improvement on the Picosure, and early tests have in some cases shown clearances in about half the time of the Picosure. I guess for some, that could mean full clearances in under 10 treatments!! It truly is such a wonderful time to be alive...

Ive just been obsessing again, getting into the details of my tattoo, running through the day I got it over and over again, thinking about how happy and excited I was on the way to the studio thinking "its finally going to happen"... then thinking about all the things I should have done before to make sure I could have lived with my design for the rest of my life!! Im convinced Im just that much of an indecisive perfectionists that no tattoo that I can see all the time would ever meet my satisfaction... I just should have never got one on my arm I think is the simple answer...

Its really strange, there were moments a couple dog days ago when I was like... "Wow, Im actually at least perfectly content with this tattoo, and so what if its not perfect" all the time in the back of my mind I was hoping I could keep that train of thought... but then a moment of boredom sets in or a thought enters your mind and it just spirals out of control... I guess you just have to train yourself to better control those thoughts...

I don't think Ive told any of you this yet, but I am a practitioner of Brazillian Jiu Jitsu,,, One of the things I notice ever since this big change is my dedication to my art of BJJ has increased ten fold. Im not sure exactly why, but Im guessing its because I want to prove that my mind and my drive is what is the true essence of myself, and not the outer shell Im encased in. I now for sure Im going to dominate next years competitions schedule because Im truing harder than I ever have before!!

Having a hobby or an ideal to dedicate yourself to is also another fantastic help in this mental anguish, its definitely helping me... Anyway, Im going to keep it short today so as not to make this too gloomy. I'll check back in soon and hopefully am feeling bright and cheery again...

Peace out folks. xx

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November 4, 2014
I came across your posting and it resonates with me immensely. I too thought about getting a larger tattoo on my hip for YEARS. I had the type of design picked out and went in for a 1.5 hour consultation before. I am a 42 year old female and I got 3 flowers - my wedding flowers- one for each child on my hip with swirls behind it. Prior to, I did have two smaller tattoos before, one which was covered up with the new large tattoo. I was SO excited to get this and endured 2 hours of pain. I loved it for 5 days and then one night I woke up with a deep panic attack. I literally full out, full blown panic attack. I have had these in the past, so I luckily had medicine to help me. It has been 5 weeks and I am on anti-depressants, have the panic attack meds on hand and seeing a therapist. I got the tattoo for all the right reasons. It has meaning to me, but I have learned through this process that I like tattoos on other people....not me. I too am reallyyyyy bad with change. Hindsight, I don't know how I didn't think of this before hand on how a bigger tattoo would effect me. Some days are better than others, but there are certain days I feel like never getting out of bed I am so depressed about it. I have been researching tattoo removal and honestly I am not sure if I will do it or not. Can I live with the tattoo? Luckily for me, it is on my stomach/hip area so no one has to see it unless I want them to but summer will be the big test. My husband loves it and during a major breakdown, I showed it to my conservative and highly religious parents, who lovingly told me to keep it and that I got it for the right reasons and it was pretty. I think I really have to work on 'me' first and realize what is going on with myself before I make any big decisions. My therapist is helping me with that. Although that is costly to see her, I think it is important that I deal with things the right way first this time around before I make any decisions that I think are "good". The last thing I want is to go and have it removed and it looks like crap and doesn't really go away. I keep trying to tell myself that this is a tough lesson learned for me, but one I will DEFINITELY pass on with my kids. Nobody ever talks of anxiety or tattoo remorse regarding tattoos that were wanted and researched. All I ever heard of were bad jobs and hasty decisions. So is this meant to be a lesson that I share with others and learn from? Probably. So I feel your pain and I am on the same journey. Sounds like we got our tattoo at a similar time with similar feelings. Hang in there. You are not alone.
November 4, 2014
I agree with so many of your sentiments, and yes, I do believe this is something has has to be experienced to be understood properly. As with all mistakes in life, they are to be learned from, and I sometimes wonder that if there was no way of removing tattoos these days, would we even have these thoughts. Its a typical case of the grass is always greener I suppose. That being said, I get a little less messy everyday, and I always remind myself that I can get this removed any time I choose. Thanks for dropping by, and thanks for the understanding words.
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November 26, 2014

ddree, sorry to hear that  you are struggling with tattoo regret. You are taking the right steps, talking with your therapist, is so helpful and I am super happy you found this community. Your tattoo sounds beautiful. I wish you the best on whatever you decide to do. 

November 4, 2014
Hey man, just read your posts and they really resonated with me. just wanted to share my two cents as someone whose first tattoo caused a lot of grief :) This is my first time visiting this website in almost a year. Last year I did the same thing as you - got a very experimental tattoo, with one of my favourite artists and everything. I wasn't in the right state of mind when my appointment came up, and that probably influenced things. Anyway, it was a pretty big skull on my back. Very sort of angry and sketchy looking. I didn't like how it came out, being an artist myself I agonised over details and silhouettes, was obsessing over it every day for a good few months and thought my life was over, I will never have a partner or wear tank tops, that kind of thing. Hell, I even had to buy a new dress for my Christmas party to make sure no one sees a single inch of my tattoo. These days I realise how much I blew it out of proportion, but back then it seemed perfectly logical. Anyway, I ended up finding this website, read up on picosure treatment, and even went for an initial appointment (I still have a little mark from the test treatment) Of course, it was completely unaffordable to me, so I decided to spend a year saving up. I also tried a few therapy sessions to help me, but it's kind of a long story in its own. Now, fast forward one year...I never went with the treatment. Instead I spent the money on the things I love. I worked loads on my personal projects this year, found a partner and had lots of fun, things I thought would never come back to my life after the tattoo. I even got a new tattoo the other week! (which I fell in love with straight away, btw) Like you, I get a lot of compliments on my tattoo. I am still not a big fan, but I no longer hate it or avoid looking at myself in the mirror like I used to. Now it's just a part of me, and I accept it. In no way the quality of my life has depended on my ink so far. I guess what I'm saying is, brains are funny like that. It's hard to tell what's rational and what isn't. I'd say, give it a few months time and see how you feel - lasers aren't gonna go anywhere, if anything they'll get better and cheaper. Peace out :)
November 4, 2014
Not sure where all the paragraphs went. Sorry for that stream of consciousness.
November 4, 2014
Hey Marcy, what a great outlook you have on things... I especially love the aspects of "instead I spent the money on things I love", and "In no way the quality of my life has depended on my ink so far"... Its all so very true, the way our minds irrationality run away with these things... I know in reality its no where near as bad as I think it is, and I truly believe its always an issue of us wanting to be tattooed, but not being... then all of a sudden we are the tattooed.. those other people, the abnormal ones... and what does the rest of the world think of us now... haha... anyway, I really appreciate your story, it is exactly the outcome I'm hoping for myself!
November 5, 2014
Yeah, I think the issue here is that we both went big with our tattoos straight away. It seems like mentally it can be a bit too much for some people! It definitely was for me for the first few months, and I'm generally used to looking a bit weird and being more on the "alternative" side. But big and bold tattoos really take some time for your mind to adjust to. I guess post-tattoo anxiety is not an issue people talk about, and it's really a shame. I see plenty of people here that got fantastic beautiful designs, yours included, and yet they desperately want them off because they just don't feel right. I think in many cases some CBT and putting things into perspective should come before lasering, which doesn't really restore your skin to how it used to be anyway. (chances are, you'd still need a cover up afterwards. I'm glad my technician was honest with me about it so I didn't end up spending a fortune and ending up with a ruined tattoo) Anyway, I hope things get better for you!
March 23, 2017
Thanks for sharing your story. Such a good outlook. Deep down I know I've blown thoughts about my new tattoo totally out of proportion. I have a choice - to love the tattoo I have or get stuck in a negative cycle thinking about how I could have done it differently. Thank you for the positive outlook & for sharing :)
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November 5, 2014
BJJ is bada**, and your tattoo is, too.  I think you're gonna feel better tomorrow :D!  

I personally love my own tattoo, and I loved it immediately after as well.  But I did go through a period of remorse when the ink faded a bit.  I'd had to choose a certain type of ink that wasn't pure black and I was so upset that the tattoo ended up greenish instead of black.  Especially since I'm dark-skinned.  I thought so many times about going back and having it re-inked in true black (another $1000).  But in the end I didn't, and the honeymoon period with my tattoo ran out, and now it's just there.  I mostly even forget I have it.  It's nowhere near a defining part of my identity anymore, but it felt like it was in the beginning.

I think you've had all of the most important insights already, but that your brain just needs to accept them, and that acceptance needs to replace the obsessive habit.  It's hard--I have it over other things--but your mind is strong and you're disciplined.  I think you're gonna get there for real.  And it helps that your tattoo is cool :).
November 5, 2014
Thanks so much for the kind words... every time someone says my tattoo looks good, it helps a great deal. It really goes to show that my indecisiveness and perfectionism as a person is probably what is requiring more work than my tattoo!!
November 7, 2014
Hey Lumiera Your story is a very interesting one and I can very much relate as I'm going through something similar myself. I was doing some browsing and I came across your post here, I'd just like to say your tattoo is awesome and I hope you can come to love it but I know it will no doubt be a long and hard journey and you may or may not succeed in but I believe it is in all of us to not only see past our physical, mental and biological differences but also celebrate them. I'll just give you a bit of background about me, I'm male 23 and from the UK and had my first tattoo on my 18th birthday, I have always liked and wanted a tattoo myself when I was young and thought I would use the opportunity to cover my arms in tattoos to cover some stretch marks (stupid and vain, I know) on and around my arms it was a koi and lotus design which I haven’t always loved but come to on my forearm which I planned on turning into a Japanese style sleeve. Still at 18 I got another tattoo on my right arm on impulse, probably one of my more stupid decisions it was a new school dagger and heart design that meant absolutely nothing to me. I went through 7 sessions of laser over a three year period, incredibly painful and the results were pretty good but my plan was always a cover rather than complete removal. Later on, around my 23 birthday I had it covered with a design which actually means something to me, although it is big and colourful and I now find myself going through the same boring pattern of self-hatred and regret. I like the design, I like the use of color, I like the meaning behind it and what it may mean to me going through life but there is one part of it which is most visible to my eye (I don’t think this is coincidence) that has really bothered me recently and I am going through a similar journey to yourself now. But having been through the journey already I’m starting to wonder whether it’s the tattoo or if it is just me, or just us as a society and I am incredibly thankful that I did have these tattoos, I do believe everything happens for a reason and these are stumbling blocks in a rocky journey that will help me realise that being happy with yourself, with your own body and mind is not as simple as your physical appearance. If I didn’t have this tattoo would I be happier in life than I am now? Would my problems be solved and I could finally ‘get on with life’, I’m not so sure. I think you hit the nail on the head with your body dysmorphia comment and that the grass is always greener. I am fairly confident that everyone no matter how happy they may look or confident they may be, all go through this at some point. Just look at how many tattoos people are having removed on this forum, some beautiful, some meaningful and some not. This is my first time here but I know people visit for surgery discussions and all sorts of topics and it is probably because they are not happy in some way with themselves and I would recommend that you do what you feel you need to do in order to achieve this happiness that we all search for. It could be argued that getting a tattoo could be down to the same self loathing and it would in certain cases be true but it is part of you now, it will be very hard to reverse it, that’s just the nature of a tattoo. I go through the repetitive thoughts on ways a tattoo may impact or impede on my life but deep down I know It is not the tattoos it is really me impacting and impeding on my own life by dragging myself down with negative thoughts. Your tattoo is great! Music is part of your life and music is more than a collection of sounds, it’s an emotional, physical and spiritual part of most people’s lives. It has the ability to change moods, to make or break your day, it can make a collection of people bond or to change the way we view ourselves. For me your tattoo summarises the art form incredibly well. But this is your journey, you can resist it and hate it or savour everything it may teach you. It is just a tattoo and we are not our skin, it goes much deeper than that.
November 7, 2014
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November 9, 2014
Lumiera, I really like your description of some of the mental/psychological aspects of how tattoos are perceived and interpreted. Unfortunately, the term "indecisive perfectionist" describes me very accurately in some ways, and it can definitely lead to anguish with respect to tattoos (and other choices). Your story illustrates how important it is to give the adjustment process enough time before making decisions about removal. People so often say "this isn't me" after getting new ink, when what they really mean is "this isn't the same me I was before." Time allows us to get used to - and embrace - the changes we're making. Best wishes to you as you continue down the road.