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Tyndall Effect from Restylane Injected Under EyE - Beverly Hills, CA
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I had a really bad experience with restylane and I...
KenBakOctober 15, 2016
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I had a really bad experience with restylane and I am on the brink of depression, because it made my situation worse.
I just want an unbiased opinion far away from my doctor, because he constantly is inconsistent with his replies and is really biased because he just wants to calm me down and lets me hear whatever i want.
So I want real honest opinions, ones that can just forget the business side of things and remember that a real human being's life is being affected and is experiencing early phases of depression and just wants an honest answer..
MY CASE: I have naturally deep set eyes, and under eye is a shade or two darker than my skin tone. I wanted to lighten it by whatever a PS would suggest
WHAT HAPPEND: He injected under my eyes with ONE full syringe under EACH eye over TWO sessions with Restylane. So that 2 FULL synringes over both eyes.
Anyways so it became soooo much darker and worse, a BAD CASE OF TYNDALL EFFECT it literally looks like a ZOMBIE, like seriously at most certain overhead lighting it turns into like a ghost horror movie like thing.. to the point I cant look at it because i turn into a temporarliy monster when under overhead shadows. And when in normal lighting it is really BLACK - not even like i dont know whtever other color it is a DEAD BLACK colour. Like my eyes are truely DEAD now.
So i asked what to do and he said you can DISSOLVE IT.
I said would that bring it back to how it was prior to injections?
He said "that is unpredictable and a mystified phenomenon" because the TRAUMA of the injection could DARKEN the area.. So I am thinking to myself why would he even suggest that when it could possibly DARKEN the area from trauma and all that? Like do I even need to been any darker than this zombie state?
Then he said it would naturally dissipate if I wait it out. So i ask him HOW LONG SHOULD I WAIT. then he says "its a mystified phenomenon" - So i dont know what he is implying or what to think.
My question is:
1: How long roughly does it NATURALLY taketo dissipate the TYNDAL EFFECT
2: What are the chances if even super super small that hyaluronidase injected in tear trough can cause trauma and possible further darkening.
Sorry for my long message but my life is completely stopped at the moment
I just want an unbiased opinion far away from my doctor, because he constantly is inconsistent with his replies and is really biased because he just wants to calm me down and lets me hear whatever i want.
So I want real honest opinions, ones that can just forget the business side of things and remember that a real human being's life is being affected and is experiencing early phases of depression and just wants an honest answer..
MY CASE: I have naturally deep set eyes, and under eye is a shade or two darker than my skin tone. I wanted to lighten it by whatever a PS would suggest
WHAT HAPPEND: He injected under my eyes with ONE full syringe under EACH eye over TWO sessions with Restylane. So that 2 FULL synringes over both eyes.
Anyways so it became soooo much darker and worse, a BAD CASE OF TYNDALL EFFECT it literally looks like a ZOMBIE, like seriously at most certain overhead lighting it turns into like a ghost horror movie like thing.. to the point I cant look at it because i turn into a temporarliy monster when under overhead shadows. And when in normal lighting it is really BLACK - not even like i dont know whtever other color it is a DEAD BLACK colour. Like my eyes are truely DEAD now.
So i asked what to do and he said you can DISSOLVE IT.
I said would that bring it back to how it was prior to injections?
He said "that is unpredictable and a mystified phenomenon" because the TRAUMA of the injection could DARKEN the area.. So I am thinking to myself why would he even suggest that when it could possibly DARKEN the area from trauma and all that? Like do I even need to been any darker than this zombie state?
Then he said it would naturally dissipate if I wait it out. So i ask him HOW LONG SHOULD I WAIT. then he says "its a mystified phenomenon" - So i dont know what he is implying or what to think.
My question is:
1: How long roughly does it NATURALLY taketo dissipate the TYNDAL EFFECT
2: What are the chances if even super super small that hyaluronidase injected in tear trough can cause trauma and possible further darkening.
Sorry for my long message but my life is completely stopped at the moment
Replies (31)
October 17, 2016
Get the hyaluronidase. It will look better within an hour. I recently had Juvederm dissolved, for the same reasons as you. The Dr used a small amount, on two different occasions. I used a different Dr to dissolve, so it cost me more money. Lesson learned.
October 18, 2016
Hey tishasheree, thanks for your input.
I was wondering how much did you inject under your eyes total and how long did you wait before you dissolved your filler.. and how long were the two dissolving sessions far apart form each other?
Sorry for the many questoins, I am just really tryign to get this right and I lost trust in many doctors, so the real people are my most trustworthy right now
I was wondering how much did you inject under your eyes total and how long did you wait before you dissolved your filler.. and how long were the two dissolving sessions far apart form each other?
Sorry for the many questoins, I am just really tryign to get this right and I lost trust in many doctors, so the real people are my most trustworthy right now
October 17, 2016
I had a very similar experience last summer. It was awful I'm so sorry you're going through with this...
I also had restylane injected In my tear troughs and under eyes by a very reputable Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon. After the initial bruising went away I was left with dark circles (with a slight bluish hue) under my eyes which I learned is Tyndall effect and can happen when the filler is not injected deep enough and is most common in the thin under-eye skin. I lived with this for a little over a month hoping it would just go away on its own cuz my body usually metabolizes filler pretty quickly. Then my friends daughter asked me why I had black eyes and I knew I had it have it fixed.
I was afraid to go to my original plastic surgeon to dissolve it so I found another highly regarded Beverly Hills Surgeon who dissolved it for me. The bruising I got from having it dissolved was horrible. I had 2 awful black eyes for about 3 weeks. The plastic surgeon felt horrible and said he hadn't seen such bad bruising even with facelifts and blepharoplasty. After about 3 weeks the black eyes did go away but I still had significantly darkened skin under my eyes which he said was hemosiderin staining and could last anywhere from a few months to years. He gave me products to help camouflage it but you could still see it. I went to Europe for a month and I look like I have black eyes in all my pictures.
When I returned from my trip in September I consulted with 3 top Los Angeles dermatologists to see if there was anything I could do. I was told I could try lasers or peels but hemosiderin staining is not superficial and time would be my best bet, and quite frankly at this point I was afraid to try anything where the possible risks outweighted the benefits.
I started a new skincare regimen recommended by one of the derms which included the use of hydroquinone and retinol. I also took arnica and bromelain pills becuz I figured it couldn't hurt. In Novemeber I did my yearly Cosmelan peel, not for my darkened under eyes but for hyper pigmentation in general. I can honestly say I didn't expect any of this to help the hemosiderin staining but I'm thrilled to say by New Years it had pretty much gone away completely. I don't know if it was just time that helped or one of these products or maybe a combination but I'm just so grateful that it did go away.
This experience has caused me to be a little more cautious and selective with my elective cosmetic procedures which I suppose is a good thing. My new cosmetic dermatologist is Rebecca Fitzgerald and she's amazing. I highly recommend her for fillers and such. She's a little more on the conversation side and said she wouldn't touch my under eyes with filler and after this experience I appreciate that.
I hope my experience can help you. I wish you all the best of luck. Keep us posted.
I also had restylane injected In my tear troughs and under eyes by a very reputable Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon. After the initial bruising went away I was left with dark circles (with a slight bluish hue) under my eyes which I learned is Tyndall effect and can happen when the filler is not injected deep enough and is most common in the thin under-eye skin. I lived with this for a little over a month hoping it would just go away on its own cuz my body usually metabolizes filler pretty quickly. Then my friends daughter asked me why I had black eyes and I knew I had it have it fixed.
I was afraid to go to my original plastic surgeon to dissolve it so I found another highly regarded Beverly Hills Surgeon who dissolved it for me. The bruising I got from having it dissolved was horrible. I had 2 awful black eyes for about 3 weeks. The plastic surgeon felt horrible and said he hadn't seen such bad bruising even with facelifts and blepharoplasty. After about 3 weeks the black eyes did go away but I still had significantly darkened skin under my eyes which he said was hemosiderin staining and could last anywhere from a few months to years. He gave me products to help camouflage it but you could still see it. I went to Europe for a month and I look like I have black eyes in all my pictures.
When I returned from my trip in September I consulted with 3 top Los Angeles dermatologists to see if there was anything I could do. I was told I could try lasers or peels but hemosiderin staining is not superficial and time would be my best bet, and quite frankly at this point I was afraid to try anything where the possible risks outweighted the benefits.
I started a new skincare regimen recommended by one of the derms which included the use of hydroquinone and retinol. I also took arnica and bromelain pills becuz I figured it couldn't hurt. In Novemeber I did my yearly Cosmelan peel, not for my darkened under eyes but for hyper pigmentation in general. I can honestly say I didn't expect any of this to help the hemosiderin staining but I'm thrilled to say by New Years it had pretty much gone away completely. I don't know if it was just time that helped or one of these products or maybe a combination but I'm just so grateful that it did go away.
This experience has caused me to be a little more cautious and selective with my elective cosmetic procedures which I suppose is a good thing. My new cosmetic dermatologist is Rebecca Fitzgerald and she's amazing. I highly recommend her for fillers and such. She's a little more on the conversation side and said she wouldn't touch my under eyes with filler and after this experience I appreciate that.
I hope my experience can help you. I wish you all the best of luck. Keep us posted.
October 18, 2016
Hey CARunner, thanks alot for you message, it gave me alot of hope and made me feel much better knowing that it is possible..
So do you think your dissolving of the filler did any help since it became so much worse? or was that necesarliy to reach ur ultimate recovery even though you had to go through a bad phase?
Much appreciated. thanks
So do you think your dissolving of the filler did any help since it became so much worse? or was that necesarliy to reach ur ultimate recovery even though you had to go through a bad phase?
Much appreciated. thanks
October 18, 2016
Hi Kenbak, I think dissolving the filler definitely helped and was necessary to get rid of the Tyndall effect. I think I just got very unlucky with my bruising and hemosiderin staining. At the time I was taking an iron supplement due to anemia which I highly suspect contributed to the hemosiderin staining.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes if you decide to have it dissolved
If I were you I would have the restylane dissolved. You clearly understand the potential risks. I was unlucky with my bruising but most likely you won't be. That being said I would find a new doctor to do it. The under eye area is so delicate and needs someone who really understands it. Fillers in the lips, cheeks, etc is not nearly as specialized or precise. I will never go to just a regular PS if I ever try filler under my eyes again.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes if you decide to have it dissolved
If I were you I would have the restylane dissolved. You clearly understand the potential risks. I was unlucky with my bruising but most likely you won't be. That being said I would find a new doctor to do it. The under eye area is so delicate and needs someone who really understands it. Fillers in the lips, cheeks, etc is not nearly as specialized or precise. I will never go to just a regular PS if I ever try filler under my eyes again.
October 18, 2016
So after it dissolved and the darkness went away, you went back to how you used to be exactly before the fillers.. or is there a bit of saggin or what exactly? And would you consider re filling it?
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
October 18, 2016
Yes after the hemosiderin staining went away it went back to how it was before the fillers. There's no sagging or anything.
Right now I'm actually really happy with how my under eyes look. They look better now then before I ever did the filler. I think the reason is before the under eye filler I had had filler put in my cheeks which caused my eyes to look more hallow which was why I felt I then needed the under eye filler in the first place. When I had the under eye filler dissolved the doctor also dissolves some of the cheek filler.
I recently did 2 rounds of fillers in my cheeks, temples and nasolabial folds but nothing in the under eye area. I've also done the Clear+Brilliant laser a few times and have switched to skin ceutical and obaji products so maybe that's all helped.
If I'm unhappy with how my under eyes look I would consider filler again I would just choose a better doctor.
Right now I'm actually really happy with how my under eyes look. They look better now then before I ever did the filler. I think the reason is before the under eye filler I had had filler put in my cheeks which caused my eyes to look more hallow which was why I felt I then needed the under eye filler in the first place. When I had the under eye filler dissolved the doctor also dissolves some of the cheek filler.
I recently did 2 rounds of fillers in my cheeks, temples and nasolabial folds but nothing in the under eye area. I've also done the Clear+Brilliant laser a few times and have switched to skin ceutical and obaji products so maybe that's all helped.
If I'm unhappy with how my under eyes look I would consider filler again I would just choose a better doctor.
October 27, 2016
Hey CA runner, sorry one last question. Sorry Dr Rebecca is the one who dissolved it, and recomended the post cream treatment that ultimatly returned ur eye back to normal? Thanks
October 27, 2016
No problem Ken. I had the filler dissolved by Dr. Gal Aharanov in BH. The dermatologist who I saw after this was Dr. Ava Shamban. Dr. Rebecca Fitzgerald is my new dermatologist for the past 6 months who now does all my fillers. I highly recommend her for fillers. Good luck! Keep us posted.
October 27, 2016
so do you recomend Dr Rebecca to dissolve it or Dr Ava?
Also how will the new DR know exactly where to dissolve as they were not the ones who injected the restalyne? Will medical records from my previous doctor show the exact sites of injection or how does this work?
Sorry I am just really freaking out because I really really cant afford to make it any worse as I already look like a zombie and i cant get this wrong at all.. and I dont trust doctors I only trust real humans who dont have profit or biased opinions. thanks a lot
Also how will the new DR know exactly where to dissolve as they were not the ones who injected the restalyne? Will medical records from my previous doctor show the exact sites of injection or how does this work?
Sorry I am just really freaking out because I really really cant afford to make it any worse as I already look like a zombie and i cant get this wrong at all.. and I dont trust doctors I only trust real humans who dont have profit or biased opinions. thanks a lot
October 27, 2016
I think you're in great hands with any of them. Honestly I'm not sure how they know exactly where the filler is and where to inject. But I don't believe a medical record would show that information.
October 27, 2016
Talk extensively with a few doctors before you decide what to do. Research their certification and complaints history. At some point, you will need to trust a med professional's recommendation but do the leg work so that you feel as sure as you need to. I know it feels bad now but it will get better w your determination. Keep us posted and focus on learning and living positively. x
Try Christopher Zoumalan in BH. He specializes in eyes.