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Sculptra Butt Lift with Dr. Andre Berger... Detailed Experience Report

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Hi realselfers! First a little background… I h...

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jennygirl867
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Hi realselfers! First a little background… I have had two rounds of Brazilian Butt Lifts with the amazing Dr. Hughes. I am about 1.5 years post op since the last one, and while the shape he gave me was amazing considering how little fat I had to work with, after I lost the weight I’d gained before the surgery I was left wanting more. I feel proportional now, but I've always wanted to be bottom heavy and it's just not possible given how little fat I had & how much gets reabsorbed after a year or two.

The past year, I have been researching doctors performing the Sculptra Butt Lift as a means to give a boost to my hips and bum. This is a newer off-label use of Sculptra (a collagen stimulator primarily used in the face). In higher amounts, it can be applied to the butt for a semi-permanent augmentation that is considered subtle by most regards- but I think it might be more effective visually the thinner you are and the more you do / can afford (yes it is expensive).

About a year ago, I stopped by Dr. Berger’s office in Bev Hills for a consultation on the procedure. I liked him a lot, but felt that it still seemed a bit new and wanted to hear / see more reviews and experience reports before moving forward with treatment. Plus, it never hurts to wait and see just to make sure there are no serious complications. I came back a year later and decided to go through with it! And I am so happy I did.

This is where I will blog about experience / measurements / amounts of product / costs / results, which will likely include more treatments as I go along! I hope you find this helpful! I know I wished there was more info on this procedure.. so, here you go! I’ll try to answer questions as fast and detailed as I can.

To start the first treatment, I decided to go with 8 vials placed in hips. Before photos represent my starting point, measurements 28 waist / 39 hips (mostly in butt projection rather than hips). My height is 5' 8" and my weight is stable at 142lbs.

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July 7, 2017
So I'm so excited to follow your journey!! I'm 5'8 as well. How many more sessions are you planning on doing? If you said it already I apologize for misreading! I've always wanted to do some sort of pump, to myself. I've always wanted a bbl over any silicone none safe procedure, BUT. I am thinner so there's only so much I could move around. Since hearing about sculptra, I'm like so happy that's there's an alternative to ADD, that isnt harmful and able to do in a doctors office aside as opposed to someone's garage lol! Thanks for the posts!!!
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July 7, 2017
So I just read through all of it! I see you're going to do possibly 10 more vials and 3 more sessions of 10? Hopefully I got that right. Anyways, is there certain amount he stops you at? Obviously depending on what one can afford, I think after the 18 days someone would just keep going for the whole year until the desired "ghetto booty and hips" lol btw who's your goal? I feel like my goal easily could be kylie Jenner(she probably has this exact thing)! Or possibly graciii3 or _natalii3 on instagram. Look them up! Kinda dramatic I know. Keep in mind there probable some FaceTune. But you get my idea! Btw are you leaking at all? Is it soft? Should it stay soft especially if you get a lot?
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July 7, 2017
Hii! Thanks for your comments :) As of now I am looking at at least one more treatment, either 8 or 10 vials- I haven't decided yet. My goal is definitely somewhat of a ghetto booty, kylie looks about right to me- but I'm not too much into modeling myself after celebs.. kinda just feeling it out for myself :) I am looking for dramatic though, and I hope it won't be too hard because Hughes gave me a really good starting point with great projection and a really nicely defined waist. Just want those hips most of all! Seems like fat transfer doesn't work too well in that area, maybe that is where Sculptra will succeed.
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July 7, 2017
Oh and to answer you other questions.. Lol no, not leaking. When it's first injected, it is probably 95% saline and a little bit of lidocaine and just a very little tiny amount of the volume is actually sculptra. The sculptra product is like a fine powder that is dissolved in the saline. Right now, the saline is dissolving and my booty is shrinking (maybe even close to the way it was pre), but in the next 3-6 weeks my body should start to build up collagen in response to the product. The next treatments should speed the collagen response process up. Does that make sense? It's really not a filler, but instead a stimulator. So in that regard, I do believe it will be very soft because it will be my body's own natural collagen :) I know I said I'm going to do at least one more treatment, but I'll probably end up doing 3... maybe 4... just depends on how much money and how dramatic the results are after sessions 2 and 3. I'm not expecting much until then, but as the treatments add up I hope to see some really nice volume on the hips.
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July 7, 2017
Yess girl, for over 6k each time I hope you achieve it! My friend actually went to Hughes one time for a bbl. he did her cute altho she definitely wants a touch up. She feels as though her butt is a bit eggy shaped and she remains bottom heavy not much of an arch. I definitely think bbl is what I should do first which I think could give me a good base and just suck out all the fat everywhere except the hips down and just add to it. I definitely want more hips. Yes btw! That makes sense as far as it being a stimulator and not filler. Thanks btw for the response back! You definitely have a fan on this journey of yours! I'm victoria btw! Also, are oh familiar with that "filler" dr Simon ourian does? I'd have to look it up to be exact. I'm sure you know what I'm saying though. Why this stimulator versus that actually filler with a more dramatic result?
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July 7, 2017
I had to scroll a ways down to find a video of the cost included in the caption for it. I guess it's a permanent filler, altho idk how much I believe that being that, he is to post saying it was semi. Who knows though lol.. anyways, I guess it's 15k-60k depending on method or desired amount and area. Which it sounds like you'd be spending close to that depending on how many sculptra sessions you do so maybe it's worth a peep assuming you haven't already! Simonourianmd1 is his insta. I've only heard of him and if I'm not mistaken, dr ghavami? (All in Beverly Hills). As far as dr ghavami I've only heard him say he does filler but never looked that deep to see what type. Regardless simon ourian on instagram is worth seeing. The result is crazy. You'll know when you see it girl! There's video of a white girl and then a deeper complexion girl.
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July 7, 2017
Nice to meet you Victoria :) I've been following Ourian since the news about him using Sculptra on Kim K. Sculptra is considered to be semi-permanent because that's what naturally created collagen is- semi permanent. I'd be shocked to learn that any USA based PS was using a permanent filler for butt aug's- it's STRICTLY illegal and they could lose their license / be arrested / sued. Plus I've seen it mentioned over and over that he uses Sculptra and that it's what Kim K had. Have you seen the clip of him on the Doctors show where they discuss it? Search "Instant Butt Lift? Doctors" on youtube. The only other injectable I've seen mentions for use for on booties is Macrolane, and even that is not FDA approved in the USA so it would be illegal too.. Only a UK thing. Plus Macrolane is a hyaluronidase filler like Juvaderm and only lasts a few months, and has lots of associated complications / risks / not worth it. All things point back to Sculptra. $15-60k sounds about right for super dramatic results with Sculptra (that would probably be 20-80 vials and last for years and years). I wouldn't be surprised if Ghavami is beginning to offer Sculptra Butt Lift too, it seems like this procedure is about to become very popular for those with not enough fat for BBL or looking to enhance a previous BBL. I've been watching it escalate for over a year now, and just in the past 3-4 months there has been an explosion in its popularity... that's how I knew it was time for me :) It's nice to have a fan, thanks for being here with me!
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July 7, 2017
Oh and about Hughes, yes he is a fan of the round booty style. I pleaded to him for a heart shaped booty but he convinced me the fat wouldn't stick well in that arrangement (lower on the upper thigh) so I let him do his thing. "Hip" to Hughes means upper side-butt. Fat transfer doesn't do well in the hips, most of it will not survive. After a year and a half post-op, my butt did settle down into looking more heart shaped, but at first it was very very lifted. Tell your friend to have patience, it will probably settle down into something she loves! And after that, there will be Sculptra to get those areas where fat transfer isn't ideal.
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July 7, 2017
Victoria- I looked closely again at Ourian's insta videos. If you pause where the syringe is visible, you can clearly see a powdery white residue in the syringe. I can say with certainty that it's Sculptra he's using :) The confusing part is that many docs will take a photo right after injection and call it "after" but this is not the actual result. It will fade away and then come back to that level after multiple treatments.
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July 8, 2017
So I looked up the YouTube video! I love how it's back and forth on claims with it being permanent or "depending on what you have it can last up to 7/8 years" lol on is instagram it says permanent. Just thought it was funny! He mentioned something about after injected it goes down but then comes back two sizes? What do you think he meant by this? Btw! How big was the syringe he used on you? I always thought it was small until I saw ourians instagram and thought it was a different filler. Especially because the girl he did, swollen or not, he injected quite a bit into her! What do you think? Again thank so much for the detailed responses, I'm sure when people stumble across your page and see this thread, they'll be so grateful!! I'm excited to see your hip results btw. By the end of it all, I mean we've all seen Kylie Jenner's lol but still. Not sure if you follow or watch their show on E but the girls Olivia Pierson and Natalie halcro, I'm positive have dabbled in this. Olivia goes to ourian and she's definitely had a little transformation noticeably on the hip-booty area. Anyways! Hope you're well! Xx
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July 8, 2017
Oh! Last question! Do you plan to stick to your doctor? Is he cheaper than ourian for this or all the same? What about ghavami? I'm almost positive he's doing it. Plus I heard (don't quote me) he offers discounts for being featured on his snapchat. (Which I haven't seen him feature that procedure so maybe you could swoop a deal? Wouldn't hurt to check it out) Kind of like ourian and all the instagram people promoting him for discounted or free procedures. (I saw that on his yelp, an have heard questionable things about his practice lol).
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July 8, 2017
The syringes I got were the same size as in the video (big). There are also videos of Dr. Berger doing this procedure, but I know he has somewhat recently updated his method... I think slightly higher dilution than before which is what all the docs seem to be doing. "Going down and coming back two sizes" is exactly how sculptra works because it's diluted in saline at first and then it stimulates your own natural collagen which is the actual volumizer (the sculptra itself provides basically little to no volume on it's own, it's all how your body responds to it with your own natural stuff that creates the volume). As for switching docs, I'm normally a very loyal patient and unless one of the other docs sought after me I doubt I'd ever see any of them about a sculptra butt lift procedure- and I highly doubt that would happen. Dr. Berger is great, he's been doing this procedure several times a week for several years, and had zero complications or issues the entire time. Plus he is already giving me some good discounts on the procedure already. I looked up Ghavami in the past for BBL but his prices were soooo high and I read some not so great reviews on him, also Ourian recently had some bad press with a patient being neglected during a cool lipo session. It's def not enough to turn me away from them (it all just depends on how I feel in consultation), but I felt great with Berger so I'm sticking with him unless I have a reason to go elsewhere. And he nailed the placement without any explanation necessary. I trust him and highly rec Berger- he wasn't a random choice either, I researched doing this for nearly two years ;) Emer is also big for sculptra bbl on realself, but I have heard severely contrasted things about him & his staff's attitudes than what you see on his realself reviews :/ I'd either pick Berger or Ourian to have your first consultation
September 17, 2017
Your butt was perfect "before" wasted money dear
April 17, 2018
agreed
April 17, 2018
I think it looked better before than after. Want to improve your rear.... get liposuction at the bottom of your crack so it has the appearance of curving up. Instead of the straight horizontal line at bottom of rear. Makes a huge difference in attractive shape of rear. Doesn't look bad after but I think actually a little better before
UPDATED FROM jennygirl867
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Day 2-3 recovery

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Day 2 was 4th of July, and I felt fine to hang out with friends and party a little bit. Everyone was making comments, as my hips and butt were very noticeably bigger in the stretchy dress I wore (the pic doesn't do justice at all). I also wore a thong the whole day because I still felt like there was a lot of saline (which is what they dilute the sculptra with). I had asked Dr. Berger if there was any chance of the product moving around at all, and he said no, but I decided to play it on the safe side just in case the saline could move around and carry some of the Sculptra with it (though I doubt it).
I'm not sure if it was also because I was sleeping on my stomach the night before and didn't sleep very well, but I became extremely tired later in the night- very suddenly. It felt like my legs were heavy and I went to bed pretty abruptly. I had done some dancing later in the night, and I think with the swelling it probably didn't help. It definitely freaked me out a little bit, but I am prone to being a little anxious about things and now I'm sure that's all that it was. According to Dr. Berger, there is no risk of embolism or other veinous issues that are associated with fat transfer into the buttock given how superficially he injects (right between the muscle and subcutaneous fat vs. deep into the muscle)
Day 3 the bruising intensified slightly, but I am feeling a little less swollen overall. Good progress if you ask me, and still pow-booty :) I am still wearing a thong because I don't want a panty line cutting into the augmentation area (I am not sure if this is something I need to be worried about, but better safe than sorry imo)
My bf has been massaging me (doctors orders to massage 4x daily for 10 days) and he is so happy and so am I. He keeps giving me these half smiling looks and it is so obvious how turned on he is! But he is not pushing it and letting me recover first.. haha.... I know that this is just the beginning, and that in the next week I will probably see my size going down a little bit as swelling and saline subsides. However, the doctor said the look of the initial fill is achievable after a few treatments as a long term result so I am INCREDIBLY happy!
Dr. Berger was saying for my next treatment I would only have to do 4 vials, but I usually go full speed when I go into something- so for round two I think I will stick with 8 again at least- or maybe even up it to 10. Treatments are spaced at 3 weeks apart minimum (only 18 days away and already scheduled) Also he said most people do two or three. I will most likely opt for 3 because I am looking for a more dramatic effect (similar to how my BBL looked immediately after surgery). It seems like I am getting there, and this time actually getting that hip projection I've always wanted!
I hope you are liking the updates- I'll try to do a few more before the next treatment :)

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July 9, 2017
Please don't overdo it. You can always add but you can't take it out once it's all injected in you. Sculptra works over months as I can attest to this. I had this crap injected into myface and at 8 months my face was the size of a basketball!
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July 9, 2017
Hi there! Reviews and questions like the ones you have contributed have been the main reasons I've been researching this and waiting for so long- for almost two years. There are certainly a lot of super gnarly experiences with PLLA, but I think the new dilution ratio is probably the huge risk reducer. It seems that lost bad responses happen with the old dilution. I think still that I would not opt to have sculptra put into my face, because a butt that responds with too much collagen is a lot easier to live with than a face with too much. The stakes are kind of flipped. I appreciate your concern and I promise you that I have considered this previously somewhat common issue with delayed responses over and over before I continued. Thank you again
January 3, 2018
I love your replies. You're so democratic and pleasent. Loving reading this btw. Thank you so much for sharing, it's so hard to find real info on this topic.
November 6, 2017
Thanks for sharing, great results!!! How much was your 1st session?
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November 11, 2017
Thanks :) 8 vials and the cost was about 6500
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April 18, 2018
Hi I’m looking into getting the same exact thing, I’m so excited! I’m very petite myself and did not have enough fat to do a BBL.. how soon did you see results from the sculptra?
May 9, 2018
This is a great review! Thank you for posting. How are your results a year on?
October 24, 2018
Hey! Can I ask if you are now seeing good volume from the procedure?
UPDATED FROM jennygirl867
3 days post

Day 4

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Today is the first day that I have noticed the initial saline fill and swelling going down. Dang, I was hoping it would just stay ;) I had similar feels with BBL, that first week is so exciting because the swelling actually looks great. I might need to exercise even more patience with this Sculptra Butt Lift, but at least I don't have to worry about fat cells dying from sitting too long or anything of that nature.

It seems like there is no definitive answer on how much collagen (in cc) one should expect per vial of sculptra. This makes sense to me since it is a simulator and everyone is going to react differently. I do have high hopes, though, because my body was pretty reactive to dissolvable sutures in previous procedures (dissolvable sutures are made from the same material as sculptra, polylactic acid).

The best I have found mentioned is that 1/3 the initial swelling amount can be appreciated with one treatment (also depending on dilution). I guess I can hope that after 3 treatments of 8 vials and a few months time, I will have a lasting result equal to the initial swelling seen on Day 1-3.... which would be amazing!

I included some pics taken just a minute ago. the bruising is progressing to deep purples and faded yellows. It looks like the bruising will be gone in a few days! Also no pain or discomfort to report :) My measurements have remained the same because the material was placed higher up on my butt and hips, instead of the widest point near the saddlebag area. I think with the next treatment I will see if he can inject a little lower than before- hip width is at the top of my list, and I think if you're going for a true heart shape it should be situated as low as possible without making the butt look saggy.

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January 3, 2018
totally agree on your placement of lower hip, it's more natural