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33 Years, 8 Years Old Implants, Before 32 A-AA Tuberous, Removal and Mastopexy - Besancon, France

UPDATED FROM Helene1
10 months post

Quick update 10 months postop

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Helene1
$2,800
Hi ladies, next week will be my 10 months post op mark !
While I am still happy I explanted, my scars and the shape of my areolas still bother me.
I wish I never had followed the advice of my dermatologist when I was one month post op ! Thanks to her, I have huge and wide scars.
Now I need a scar revision to make the scars thinner.

Do you know when it is better to do a scar revision ? The sooner, the better ? Or no ? And also what is the best method when you have hypertrophic scars ? Dissolvable stiches or regular ones ? I started yesterday to put some castor oil on my scars, following the advises of a real friend ! I hope it will help !

My implants were put in twice through armpit (same incision twice) and are barely noticable. So I know that it is because this damned cream recommended by the dermatologist ! I will see an other dermatologist this summer, to have a second opinion. I hope that it won't be too expensive because one my client has difficulties to oay me for a job done two years ago, and I was relying on that money to perform the scar revision.

I know that my scars won't become thinner, but I am taking any advises to make them fade !

And also, do you know /practise any exercises that can improve the shape of the breasts ?

Thank you for your support lovely ladies !

Helene1's provider

Dr Dominique Garnier

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He performed my first BA, the revision and then the explant. Did not try to convince me that I would be unhappy with explant.

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4F
May 18, 2016
Wow Helene you're looking fantastic! What a kicking womanly figure you've got! :) I hope the caster oil fades them, if not laser might take some colour out?... Look into that... It can fade stretchmarks...so perhaps it does scars too?...I'm not sure but might be worth phone calls and googling and might be cheaper and less traumatic than cutting again?! :/ [RS bleep] obviously keep them well covered from sun as it will make them worse... Um oh and did you order the Naturaful?... Oh and hey they are looking more balanced and nice areola shapes too! You've got a lot of good results and made great progress!..I see lots of fading too... So looking good girl! :) xxxxx
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4F
May 18, 2016
Ps you say your areolas are oblong, but I see circles!... It looks good from where I'm seeing them!... You've got a great result I think!... Oh and love your jeans! ;) [RS bleep]
H
May 18, 2016
Hahaha, don't worry, I will not expose my scars to sun ! ;)
I bought castor oil, and I tried today the derma roller. Sh*** it hurts ! And just after I put vitamin C serum, and I massaged with castor oil. We will see. I love these jeans too. Too much. I wear them all the time, and they start to give some weakness signs ! I bought them at H&M, and I will try to find some new ones this summer !
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4F
May 18, 2016
Ouch!!!... ,!!... I'm hoping it has a good effect for the pain! :) [RS bleep]
2
May 19, 2016
Your areolas healed beautifully. I would think an in office scar revision would be an easy fix for a doc with excellent suturing skills!
H
May 19, 2016
Thanks 2727 ! Scars around areolas are ok, no problem ! My concern is the shape, I wish they were round !
H
May 19, 2016
What about you 2727 ? Are you still looking for a fat tranfer ? I am more than hesitant to do that, because I don't have a lot of fat, and I don't want to ruin my body for a procedure which not sure (fat retention issues, lumps and cyst).
2
May 19, 2016
I still plan on doing it!!!
H
May 19, 2016
Ok cool ! Did you find a good surgeon ? When do you plan to do it ?
H
May 19, 2016
Haha, I will keep you posted ! So far, it is really red ! And no I didn't order the cream yet, I want to deal with my scars first (they bother me much than the lack of volume) !
M
May 21, 2016
H
May 21, 2016
Hi Mensablonde, you are not obliged to have a lift, just a simple removal through armpit or areola. I had a lift because of my tuberous difformity. Ironicaly, before surgery when I asked the surgeon if it was possible to remove them through areola and perform an areola reduction, he told me that it would leave bad scars... But once again, if I had put silicone sheets instead of the damned corticoid cream recommended by my dermatologist, they would be less visible ! So make a lot of research, ask to people on realself. Because if you have troubles with your implants, it would be better to remove them. Good luck
M
May 21, 2016
Well, if I do decide to remove my implants, it will be through my armpit---the same way they went in. I'd rather have slightly sagging breasts and large areolas than the vertical scars, but that's just me. I might look into having fat transferred to my breasts at a later date after the removal to avoid needing a lift.
B
May 22, 2016
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4F
May 22, 2016
lol, well I have to say BeYOUty kinda said what I was thinking...lol, because hey mensablonde luvy we are here to support eachother, not criticise or make eachother feel worse and propose our ideas or outcomes are better than others, there's no competition here, that's for trashy reality TV! Lol... you need to be careful please, and remember these are lovely ladies who are at a very vulnerable time and are willing to share because they care about others, so unless your comments are useful or supportive then you need to read the mandate you agreed to signing on here or won't get the support you need luvy when you need it... And the time will come you'll need the poison sacks out, trust me!... But hey, I think an apology for your insensitivity would go a long way, you may not have realised or meant things in the tone they come across?... ;) yes we all have preferences as to what we would rather, and obviously Beautiful Helene1 is upset with her outcome and trying to do whatever she can to get a better result.. So help if you like, first with an apology... Or learn from this so you don't hurt others... ;)
L
May 22, 2016
Really mensablonde? Im about to have removal surgery in a month, and the stories of brave women as Helene1, have helped me and inspired me tremendously. Without them, I might have not been brave enough to take this huge step. So please, be kind, be respectful, we are all here supporting each other.
M
May 22, 2016
H
May 23, 2016
There is a big difference between being honest and being spiteful. I welcome and consider all comments, positive and negative. Because you are right, my scars are unacceptable and I am not happy with the outcome (that's why I am investigating a scar revision procedure). But I know it. And there are some ways more appropriate to say the things. For example if you happen to comment somebody's result in the future, please begin by "I'm sorry for what you're going through, I would be upset to if I ended up with your results, and it scares me" and then you give advises. That is called a constructive comment, and you have been honest with the person. A negative comment just to point out people's flaws without giving them advises is just pure meanness, and it doesn't help. At least it doesn't help more than the comments that you call "lies". Because, my dear you comment is just helpless and immature. That's being said I have more important things to do in my life than to waste my precious time with sharp tongs.
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SS
May 23, 2016

Hey ladies, we are all here to support each other through a life changing procedure. Let's keep up the lovely atmosphere in this community.

B
May 23, 2016
B
May 23, 2016
Sorry Sheila, that's the last one :)))
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4F
May 23, 2016
Gawsh wow, the mind boggles! Lol... Helene1 you are truely beautiful!... Some can never be, inside or out!...but you already are, and will only go from strength to strength ok?... Ok that's my last too, [RS bleep] I'll email you sweetheart!... [RS bleep]
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J
May 24, 2016
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May 24, 2016
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4F
May 24, 2016
I reckon justjessnc! [RS bleep] Helene1 is such an elegant beauty and I've told her that too ... She's improved heeeeaps and I don't see oval like she does, I see a good result, just time for healing and settling and she's had a lot to deal with moving and such... My heart went out to her, I had a creep say something to me and I had my sisters jump to my defence... I gave her the benefit of the doubt, then asked Sheila to warn her to keep away!... It's a kickoff offe se, after all, didn't she see the thing she ticked entering this site, saying only positive up building kind comments?... Like adult human treatment?... Anyhow... Thanks sweetness... Hoping to see you in person one day luvy! I'm so stoked you're keeping up with the kids!... Lol, I'll be asking for pancakes if we meet and I'll cook you a lamb roast! ;) lol... Yours are more arty tho! Haha... ;) that still cracks me up! I loved you before I met Ya! Haha... Oh and YEs BEAYOUtY is just that, an absolute BEAUTy!... She's been an incredible gift to us all, in information and love behind the scenes and she's as tender in heart as she is fierce in defence of others hearts! Lol... I love her to bits too, we all do!... :) xxxx

So...it's back to life as normal aye justjessnc?!... Yea I'm not on here as much either, but love to catch up and see my lovely ladies and how the recoveries are going, far out yours is incredible girl!... Just popped back didn't Ya?! Lol... Awesome! Well, chat again soon!... Xxxx
H
May 24, 2016
Waooo, thank you ladies for your kinds words ! And yes Justjessnc, I am also taking gelatin (which is collagen) on a daily basis, not for the skin, but for reducing inflammation due to hashimoto disease. And now I have to do some tests to see if the auto immune disorders have not spread to my intestine, since gluten has almost the same molecular structure than thyroid gland (weird isn't it), my body might attack the gluten when I it some, giving me tiredness, and stomach haches. I would be very sad to get rid of gluten from my diet. I looooove gluten from an inconditional love (I cook french pastries every day, so I would be very upset to stop).
For the shape of my breasts, I'm quite happy, the lift really improve the tubular initial design. The swelling post surgery gave a little volume that I lost, but well. I should try a cream maybe like 40 Betty uses. But it is quite expensive.

Anyway, if one day I travel to NZ, I will call you for sure 40 Betty ! :) Thanks again ladies !
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4F
May 25, 2016
Lol, come for tea and I will make you gluten free pancakes for pudding!... ;) xxxx aw it's true tho, I'm now intolerant or allergic to eggs, gluten, sugar, and dairy... Gawsh, I can't even have the coffee! :(... But hey, blessings all around, I still have fruit! Haha ;) [RS bleep] ps, yes if you take the st Mary's thistle or milk thistle for a couple weeks prior to using naturaful you'll have better results... It cleans out the hormones from the liver, so it can work better... I didn't know but found out just the other day and happen to have been taking it for months! Haha.. Great coincidence!... I hope you can try it, it's lovely cream...and yes, my hubby said woah, I feel more there!... We had fun squishing them! Haha... So it DEFINATELY works for me!... ;) xxxx I hope it will work well for you too!... Oh and Gawsh, I wish I could try your pastries!...wow homemade pastries?!... You're amazing!... [RS bleep]
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4F
May 25, 2016
Ps Helene sweetheart, now the implants are out, st Mary's thistle or milk thistle it's called by several names, it cleans the liver... I'm getting my bowel cleaned and they said here's tons of liver action going on, so may pay to do a bowel cleanse then liver cleanse to see if that helps your digestion and alleviates the hashimotos?... And do you take a good iodine?... [RS bleep] sorry to suggest so much, just hoping to get you some relief!... Xxxx and email me your address or a post box, I want to send you a pressie! ;) [RS bleep]
H
May 26, 2016
I will check this detox ! It might help, who knows. And yes I take medicine since so many years now... It's called levothyrox, we only have that in France to cure hypothyroidism. I just take one year of medecine supply when I got back to france for summer. But I know that here in the US, we can find some thyroid hormons derived from porc, that are better assimilated, according to some people. I should figure that out too.
And 40 betty, if you can eat fruits and veggies you should invest in a slow speed juice extractor (if you don't have already one), it is wonderful for eating a lot of vitamins ! [RS bleep]
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4F
May 26, 2016
Yes I do thank you!... :) you reminded me haha, I'm slow to get it out because I make things too healthy then they're disgusting! ;) so I got some apples off our tree and will add that to sweeten... [RS bleep]
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July 15, 2016
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B
July 21, 2016
You obviously don't know wha you're talking about. You can't remove the implants through the pit. There are all sorts of exploitive deletives I would say to your face given the opportunity. I, walk the walk sweet cheeks.
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J
May 24, 2016
amen! agree 100% with 40 and free.... :)
UPDATED FROM Helene1
8 months post

Eight months up date - Do NOT put corticoid cream on scars !!!

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Helene1
Hi,
Here is my eight months update. I'm feeling down. I won't lie. I hate my breasts, but I love being implants free. After my first month review I went to my dermatologist for a mole checkup, and I showed her my scars. She found them a little hard an swollen, and told me to put corticoid cream for 21 days. That was supposed to help flatten the scars. BUT, one of the side effect is that if it actually flatten the scars, it enlarges them.

So now I have very large scars, uneven breasts, oblong nipples, and I feel depressed. I absolutely do not want to reimplant, and my husband is not supportive. I tried to talk to him about fat transfer, but he doesn't want to hear from my breasts problems anymore. He says that I had bothered him too much with that.

And I must confess that I am a little bit scared about fat transfer (lumps, fat necrosis, fat disappearance...). And I don't have the money for doing that now. I don't mind being small at all, but I hate the shape of my breasts. The left has some kind of small folds along the scar, and is almost non existent.

Fortunately, my kids keep my mind busy !

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R
March 29, 2016
I am sorry you are struggling with your result. I think you look great. I see lots of breasts (I'm a midwife) - and your nipples look normal to me. Have you seen someone about scar treatment? My understanding is that there are treatments for improving them. You are very lean and therefore have little fat. Would you consider putting on a few kilos to get some fat onto your breast? Maybe easier said than done - just a thought.
H
March 29, 2016
Thank you for your kind words, it means a lot... I try to put on weight, but I can't, no matter what I eat. And if I happen to take 2 kilos, they will not end up on my breasts ! I didn't see someone for this scar treatment, last time I saw someone, I ended with worse results, so I will have difficulties to trust someone for this problem. I read that once scars are enlarged, there is nothing to do. I will try to see my surgeon this summer while I will be in France.
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R
March 29, 2016
Would a scar revision be an option? The cut out the scar and start the healing again?
H
March 30, 2016
Why not ? But I am scared that it would end worse. I will ask to my surgeon this summer
B
March 29, 2016
Hi Helene! I am so sorry you are feeling down! I think your breasts look beautiful and have a very pretty shape! I wish I had some breast tissue like you! I happened to do a lot of research on scars, as mine never healed well from previous surgeries and I was worried how they would heal after explant. (The bad scaring is the reason my nipples cave in... They are big, but on the inside, not the outsiders like yours.) for a second I thought they were "keloid." And did a lot of research on that. Mine are not, but it looks to me like yours are. Keloid scaring is when the body over produces collagen long after the need for collagen is over. Your body never allows the healing process to get past the collagen phrase. This type of scaring is common in people who have olive skin, like yourself! Unfortunately, for people who are prone to this type of scaring, every time you cut the scar out, it gets bigger, so please do plenty of research before allowing anyone to cut you again. The best type of treatment for this condition is cryo-therapy. It's a freezing technique, along with scar treatment ointments specifically for keloid. I hope this helps! Regarding your husband, UGH! I am so sorry... I know what it's like to deal with a man who is unsympathetic! Men are terrible at this kind of thing and all they want is to be able to fix it and if they can't fix it, then they just won't face the problem any more. He surely cares about you very much and just wants you to be happy but doesn't know how to make you happy about your breast. The truth is he probably doesn't care about perfect boobs?? I know mine doesn't! Men are mostly interested in what's down south! LOL! What about buying some sexy lingerie that you can leave on that covers whatever is making you feel insecure?? I know I will be using tricks like that until my nipple pops back out again if it ever does! Honeydew intimates makes some cute sets that you can leave on! Sorry if I'm being too raunchy for you! :/
H
March 31, 2016
Hey, you are not raunchy at all ! :) Thanks you for the honeydew tip ! ;) Honesly, I would prefer having your breasts than mines ! At least, you have round nipples and beautiful scars ! I am not sure that my scars are keloid, because I was cut twice at the same place at the armpit, and the scars are almost invisible ! I'm pretty sure the became such wide because of this damned cream ! I will checked cryotherapy, laser, etc. But my dermatologist will never see me again for a scar problem !
And honestly, as long as they become white, I don't care. What bothers me is the shape of my breasts. I showed them yesterday to my sister, and she told me that they were not pretty at all. I will send pictures to my surgeon and ask him what to do. Maybe he could round up the nipple ? Ideally, I would love to have a little fat transfer just to improve the shape, and being a small A cup (because I love being small, and braless, it never bothered me, what I hated was the tubular shape !)
B
March 31, 2016
I feel like if you're going to have more work done, you should consider seeing a different surgeon. While I think your breasts are still beautiful, I do think he should have had the artistic ability to make them more symmetrical, and the nipples round! The best thing to do is to find a surgeon who has the same aesthetic preferences as you... You need to see lots of pictures of their work and chose accordingly. Each surgeon has their specialty. For example, if I was to have needed a lift I would have seen dr malinde k Ambe in Orange County CA. Check out his lift work on his website! Is aesthetic is stellar ❤️
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4F
March 31, 2016
Aww I'm so sorry this is proving to be a harder journey for you!... Yes please keep focused on the fact you are a beautiful person, they are not as bad to us as you feel they look to yourself, and there is still so much healing time left!... I have always scarred badly but eventually they fade etc... I'm sorry your hubby doesn't realise how his comments affect you, and I'm glad your kids keep you busy!... Just think, they'd love you without any Breasts!!... ;) Hang in there, hope things prove gradually for you bit by bit! Sending stacks of love over to you!!! Xxxxxxxxxxxxx
H
April 14, 2016
Thank you for you support, it means a lot to me, since I don't have any friends yet here (I left all my friends in France). But fortunately, I will work in August :) ! It will help to go out the house and have colleagues !
Xxxx
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4F
April 14, 2016
Aw I'm sure they will enjoy your company as much as we do Helene! Xxxx Yes there's much more important stuff to life than our boobies aye... But still it's natural to want a nice look for ourselves isn't it, and you have had a great change, you are looking so beautiful and graceful!... We have similar results, but mine are bit saggy lol ;) xxxx love to you from your NZ friend! :) xxxxxx
H
April 15, 2016
You are so nice ! Thank you for being there ! Love from KS !
C
April 13, 2016
Hi! So sorry you were lead in the wrong direction by your dermatologist. That is very unfortunate! I completely understand the depression. I've had some on and off since my surgery 9 weeks ago. The bathing suits killed it for me. I'm not allowing myself to be down about my scars, nipples & tissue yet since it's all still fairly new. One thing I did notice is that if I lift my arms above my head, my nipples are perfectly even & round. Mine look like yours when my arms are down...oblong & uneven. :-/ Certainly not the outcome we wanted, right! It's due to us not having enough breast tissue to fill the space. I've had a few surgeons tell me that, including my own. I discussed fat transfer with my ps & he advised against it because (1) I don't have enough fat to transfer (2) even if I gained the weight, which would be a lot, I wouldn't be able to work out because I would loose the fat & the surgery would be for nothing. And I'm an avid weight lifter; well I was before I started issues with the boobs. I don't mean to be more of a downer, this is just my reality. Now onto something that may be helpful... I noticed from your pics is that you "slouch" your shoulders. Humor me and look in the mirror. If your muscles allow, pull your shoulders up toward your ears, then back and then down. Notice how your breasts change! They look bigger, right! :-) Try taking another profile pic doing this and I'll bet you'll feel a little bit better. It's "You're Welcome Wednesday". hehehe. Seriously though, I hope you are feeling better soon and that hubby comes around.
H
April 14, 2016
Hey, yes I "slouch" my shoulders because I have a stiff neck since several years now. I have an hypertrophia of one vertebra, and when it pushes on the nerves, I have a kind of sciatica, but in the arms. Very painful, and my muscles around my neck and shoulders are always tense. But indeed, yes it is better when I pull my shoulders back !
But unlike you, when I raise my arms. They are not round. Only when they are cold ! I will see this summer what the surgeon and the dermatologist (an other one) says about my scars. And maybe a nipple revision would make them round ???
C
April 14, 2016
Oh no. I'm so sorry. I hope you can find some relief for that! A revision could work if you find a surgeon who specializes in it. You may want to ask if it will help enough to justify another surgery. I just had a lady recommend scar medic oil to me. Said it did wonders for her scar & it is basically invisible now. You can buy it on Amazon. I ordered it today. Can't wait to see if it works!
H
April 15, 2016
Keep me posted for the scar medic oil efficiency ! I don't think I will buy it since my problem is the width of my scars... Once they are enlarged, it is impossible to make them thin. Except with a scar revision surgery (excision and sew healthy skin in order to have a thinner scar).
H
April 15, 2016
And after dermabrasion
P
April 15, 2016
Hi Helene, i just wanted to tell you that you have a gotgeous figure! I cant believe babies came out of that body!
Tjis may not be what you want to hear but i think you should leave your boobs alone. The scar is going to get better. When they are red they are still healing. It can take 18 months!! If you keep poking at the scars though they are going to remain irritated. I wish i could remember the name but there are some post surgical (collagen?) strips you can wear on ur scars to prevent them from forming keloids. At this stage of your healing i would not recommend putting anything but maybe some vitamin E from capsules on the scars. Let your body rest and heal itself. Again you look amazing from head to toe!!!
H
April 15, 2016
Thank you so much !!! I'm not sure I will touch them again. I am so scared to end up worse than now !!! Between lumps from fat transfer to scar irritation... But I must confess that the shape of my nipples bothers me a lot !
UPDATED FROM Helene1
1 month post

One month update

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Helene1
Hello ! I am now implant free since one month ! I feel very good ! It's so good not to have foreign objects inside me !

I realize now that what was bothering me with my breasts was not the size, but the shape. Of course they are very very small now (smaller than before because of the lift, and because I breastfed my third baby). They are also a little bit uneven. Sometimes I feel a little bit self conscious, but most of the time I'm happy. My husband has not seen them yet, because he is in Africa for job. I hope he will find me attractive !

The only things that bothers me are the scars. They are still red, and I can't wait for them to fade ! And also I have a scab under the left breast that doesn't want to heal. They other day, the scab fell and I could see some thread (it was supposed to be resorbable, but it took longer that usual to dissolve).

I saw the surgeon this morning, and it told me that it was a local necrosis that would heal by itself. I forgot to ask him when I would be able to do sport again (I love swimming, but I won't go to the swimming until my scab is completely healed). When did you start to exercise again ?

I asked to my surgeon this morning about fat transfer (I would like to have a more rounded shape, about 50cc more), and he told me that I don't have a lot of fat. He could harvest maybe 300cc max from my love handles and tights. And put around 200cc in the breasts. He could do that under local, so that would be great. Maybe I will think about that for next year. But I want to give time to my breasts to heal first. And I like my little love handles, so...

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V
August 29, 2015
Cordran tape (very expensive)or Haelan tape (same as Cordran but from UK and one fifth the price) would help with those scars. It is a steroid impregnated tape that you cut in thin strips and (2-3mm wide) and place over the scars daily. I have a tendency for bad scars and forming keloids which happened with my original implants 25 years ago. This time ststus post explant and lift my scars are much better with the use of this tape. You could ask your doctor about it.
H
August 30, 2015
Thank you, I will try to order that kind of tape !
J
August 30, 2015
You have a really nice physique H. Did your doc say where he'll harvest the fat?
H
August 30, 2015
Thank you ! He said he would mainly harvest the fat in love handles, and maybe in buttock. He will see next year when I will go back to france for summer, if it does still bothers me... He told me that he could harvest 300 cc max, and transfer about 200 cc (100cc in each breast). If I retain 50%, it will be a slight improvment. But what scares me is fat necrosis, lumps etc.
J
August 30, 2015
So far, I haven't had any issues..there's this one doctor in Utah who advises his patients to ice the breasts for 3 days after breast fat transfer to slow the metabolism of the fat..might be worth a try..
T
September 4, 2015
You're in amazing shape. I think you look beautiful and it will only get better as you heal.
H
September 5, 2015
Thank you ! I feel good ! Yesterday I ran for 40 minutes and I was light ! Unbelievable ! I couldn't run with my implants, because my breath was too short. I was my first running session since several years ! I'm happy and full of energy !
T
September 7, 2015
That's great to hear! Keep us updated.
S
September 7, 2015
I think you look great already and it will only get better. I think your husband will love your natural breasts-they are so cute & fit your svelt frame. You look great!!
H
September 7, 2015
Thank you so much ! I was a little down today because I wanted to buy a swimsuit (I love swimming !) but I found myself so unpretty in those one piece training swimsuits ! They made my flatter than I am ! I think that the small amount of volume I had was due to eodema... But anyway, it won't prevent me to go to the swimming pool ! When I will be completely healed, I will try to develop my pectoral muscles, maybe it will help a little bit !
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B
December 11, 2015
I did not have much fat either and the little they did take made such the difference for me. Local instead of GA would be easier on your body and cheaper I believe! You have an absolutely amazing feminine and shapely body and I think that you would be very happy and content if you did just a little fat grafting. Scars will for sure fade more... everything everyone has said- massage with oil, silicone sheets etc will help too. You are beautiful and thank you so much for sharing.
H
December 12, 2015
Hi Beinme ! Thank you for your comment ! I definitely need a little fat transfer, because I lost even more volume since these once month picture. I think the small amount of volume I had after explant was actually due to post op oedema... Scars are getting a little bit better, but are still thick and red. I will try to see my surgeon for fat grafting under local when I will go back to France this summer.