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Breasts ruined by implants 1.5 Yrs Ago, Early 30s

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Dr. Robert Cohen, Scottsdale

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I was so excited about this consult. I thought he was "the one" as he has such great reviews. I waited months to get in and paid $150 for the consult.
He was so arrogant and argumentative, I was just not ready for that. I had a list of questions and photos, and didn't get to show him the photos even or get through my questions. He was trying to upsell himself and his experience and knowledge the whole consult, while taking very little interest in my feelings or goals. I did not feel he was listening to what was important to me and I was getting a spiel that he has given a thousand times over before. He would get irritated when I would question what he was saying/recommending and it was not a good fit at all. He also does not remove capsules. When I asked about the possibility of removing the implants and not doing a lift he nearly kicked me out of his office. Not kidding. He said I just did not see things as he did and our vision did not align, as he was wanting to improve my shape and he did not think I should be concerned over scars at all. LOL. Righttttttt. I believe he chooses his patients carefully to maintain these great reviews. And he may well be a great surgeon, but I have to have someone with some compassion for my situation and some kindness. I don't think that should be too much to ask.
I have consults I am going to try and schedule this week. I have been researching and found about 4 docs in my state I would like to consider. I also have a Skype consult with Dr. Robin Yuan in CA. He wrote the book, "Behind The Mask, Beneath The Glitter: Deeper Truth About Safe Smart Cosmetic Surgery." He has won many awards and recognized as one of the top docs in the USA and one in 4 top docs in Beverly Hills. After this Skype consult, if I choose to see him for a physical exam it will be $450 just for consult. Beverly Hills prices are scary...And I would really like to see someone closer to home. But I figure hearing what he has to say will be a good idea.

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March 6, 2018
See if dr Julio Alvarez-Clavijo will Skype consult. If he does it will be free and my scars are practically invisible 10 months out. He is the complete opposite of what you experienced above. Competent - and the ONLY DR who would do what I wanted. 4 hours to reconstruct and a beautiful outcome way better than I could have imagined. Brush it off. Some plastic surgeons have a god complex. Well, a l9t unfortunately. You have nothing to lose. Call his office or ask for appt on this site directly.
March 6, 2018
went thru similar experience - had implants after kids and nursing. About 1994? Came out MUCH larger than I wanted and similar to your photos. Saw some doctors, finally just wanted implants out with a lift, no replacement implants. Was told would be very flat, did not care. 2008 had surgery with a woman surgeon. (I do not think she is practicing anymore.) She did NOT remove the scar tissue, said would heal faster and less painful. Lots of stiches, nipples were cut off and moved up since so much skin needed to be removed...all healed up nicely and have never regretted doing this surgery. One of the implants was leaking so good to have removed. Good luck, keep researching.
March 8, 2018
Hi I ran across your review because I want to do a slight revision to my breast after explant I had my breast only for 1 year and then I explanted, it’s been 3 years since expand or almost 3 years I feel like myself again little by little I got out of my depression,anxiety , of course with Gods help. I wasn’t going to comment but I remembered how hard it was, I went through Feng. Knowing what I know Now I feel like some doctors just take advantage of you to make money. I mean my breasts are ok I wish one was a little higher but they look better than with implants. i traveled from California to Ohio and missed my little ones and husband so much. I just wanted to let you know you will be okay I’m okay now and I know you don’t know this yet but you are going to ok and this will pass
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March 11, 2018
I am so so sorry to hear about your consult being awful, I had two of those, one leaving me in tears... four consultations in all. I wish you could fly here to Atlanta because Dr symbas is an angel, he is literally the kindest, most genuinely after making you happy AND healthy, he’s incredible
March 13, 2018
Hey lady. I explanted in Nov 2016. No lift. I had my implants for nine years.

I took them out because of CC. I had definitely reacted to my implants. 16 months later and healing and they've fluffed and they're even (which took a year because of a hematoma). My health is so improved. My allergies are resolving and my thyroid antibodies are the lowest they've been since I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's. My skin has healed/cleared up.

It took a lot of adjustment and I had an animation error/deformity and through exercise and stretching, it's improved so much.

It was worth it. But find a compassionate doctor who will work with you.

Also separating the procedures (staging) can be a good idea because you can heal from the explant and see what you have naturally and then there is less guesswork.

It's hard to be patient but it's worth it in the end.

I would have predicted I absolutely needed a lift and if my doctor had been ok with doing explant and lift in one procedure, I would have done it.

I no longer need a lift post healing and if I had gotten one; it wouldn't have healed properly and I would probably be looking for a revision.

Anyways, if you ever want to talk more, I would happily give you my email or phone number (love texting). I don't check the real self forum as much as I used to.
March 13, 2018
Please don't get discouraged because of a couple of shitty consults. The problem is some doctors are [RS bleep] and, while it's an expensive lesson to learn, at least you're learning it before you let them near you with a scalpel. ❤️
UPDATED FROM Hopedforbetter

2018

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Hi RealSelf Friends, I am sorry to report I do not have good news to share. I wanted to update and share that I just reached 3 years with these terrible implants and I believe I am having symptoms of BII. I think they were subtle at first, but now increasing in severity. I have had sinus problems that started as soon as I got the implants and have never gone away, I do not heal from illness or injury like I used to. Like my body is giving all it's resources to attacking these foreign things and my immune system has weakened due to this. Petechial rashes, a very large one present for 5 months now-doctors have no idea what it is. Vertigo, another thing I have never experienced in any form, started about 1 year after implants and still occurs. Many physical symptoms have manifested and the pain and discomfort is debilitating. Who I was before implants and now is so so different. I was so happy, enjoyed life, I thought I was just making an improvement or doing "maintenance" as this was the natural progression after boobs changing after having children, etc. I was soooo wrong. Trying to fight the depression and find the courage to have another surgery.

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March 5, 2018
I’m sorry to hear this- will you explant?
March 6, 2018
All of that. I had ALL of that. Then the joint inflammation came. Fuzzy thinking. Debilitating fatigue. Happy to report all reversed and it was dramatic. Two years almost and six sinus infections expected and missed. No pain. Happy. Energetic. It's real AMD I hope you find relief soon. Hang in there girl. You can feel better.
March 6, 2018
Same here. Implants have ruined my health, my body and my life. I am trying to find the courage to explant but I am terrified of ending up deformed without any improvement of my symptoms. I wish you can find a way to get them out...
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March 6, 2018
Sorry to hear this. I wish you luck on whatever decision you make. Sending prayers and hugs! ❤️
March 6, 2018
There is a wonderful breast explant sure you might look into. I explanted 10/12/16 after 28 years. My implants continued to get harder and harder then my right side ruptured. I'm so happy and greatfull they are gone! Good luck❤️
March 6, 2018
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Thin Skin

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Maybe I'm overthinking, but I feel like I have so many things to consider figuring out this explant stuff and to lift or not. I've also realized my skin has before extremely thin w the implants. Anyone else experienced this? Wondering if it makes a difference w explant and/or lift.
Also, I have been told by a couple different docs here and in consult that because I have already had my nipples cut, the vascularity has been compromised and it makes that more of a concern to do again. So I don't think I have the option of removing implants through the nipple and then deciding to get a lift 6 months later. I really believe I need one, but I'm just so afraid to go through all that too. Maybe better to just get these things out and live with my floppy extra skin boobs! I was a lot happier w those... I don't think impossible to lift later, but I don't want to risk my nipples dying either.

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September 14, 2017
Oh I had that almost happen and I'll tell you it was terribly unnerving. My nipples turned smurf blue after surgery. They made it as my dr used a special suturing to prevent loss. I'd say proceed with caution on this. When the skin and tissues become thin there isn't much to support blood flow everywhere. When I had my lift after explant I had a small reduction in the larger side. That's the side I had compromised blood flow and I ended up with viable nipples but I had a lot of necrosis on that side in the tissue. It hardened and my body absorbed it. Ironically my larger side ended up being smaller because of that. My first surgeon recommended removing from fold and waiting at least six months for blood flow to re- establish then lift. Surgeon two said he could have done it in one surgery, but knowing what I know about tissue death I'm glad I waited. It makes the thought of scars not seem bad when you worry for a week to see if you're going to have to have nipples tattooed on. Btw - that's also a good option to hide scarring around your areolas. Medical tattooing can even the pigmentation and cover scars. Your surgeon will be able to point you to someone if it's ever a concern. I've been following your story and I feel so bad you have to go through all of this. I will tell you it will never be a better time than now to take care of it. You're young and healthy. Every year counts when it comes to skin elasticity and resiliency. Ask all your surgeons your considering whether they see a risk of nipple loss and ask them what they do during or after surgery if they see compromised blood flow. Their answers may steer your decision.
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September 19, 2017
Good advice lisa0714. I wish I could give you advice but I have never gone thru anything like that. I can give you my prayers and happy vibes that everything will workout in your favor. I'm 8 weeks po and had some large wounds that finally closed up. You can read up on it in my profile if you have time.
October 15, 2017
Oh my!
That is really good advice but very scary for you.
At this stage I would skip the lift as
September 26, 2017
I’ve just read most of your reviews and just want to give you a big hug! No advice but I for one am rooting for you to get this all sorted out. I wouldn’t second guess the lift you don’t haveto decide on it all now. It’s perfectly possibly to explant only- lift can come later- hell some people don’t even need a lift after they explant. I think you should just focus on finding a surgeon you trust, I mean really trust. Someone with proven track record of slot of explant, years I experience and reviews and pictures of their work. Someone who makes you feel they understand your every need and then go with whatever they deem best for you. [RS bleep]
October 6, 2017
Sorry you feel like this... I have been through 7 surgeries myself to fix the mistake of one surgeon (animation deformity), so I know how you feel. Before my explant last summer, i was feeling so depressed... i lost all my energy, couldnt sleep at night, felt miserable, wantes to die. I had never ever felt like that before, i am a strong energetic woman, that was not me!!!

Anyway... i wanted to tell you something: after reading all your story, there is good news! You dont need to worry about chosing if you want a lift or not!! The good news is: you have no choice!! You CANNOT do a lift now. Why?? The "because" is in your story, is in your psychology, in how you describe how much you suffer, how you showed us you were obsessed with details. You have no choice, you have to do it without lift first, give it a try. If you dont give it a try, and if you are not happy with the lift and the scars etc, you will never forgive yourself !! Thats why you have no choice. Otherwise you may hate yourself for another 20 years because you made that decision and have those scars or bad shape or whatever result you would have. If you explant without lift, and you leave the door open for a lift a year after if you dont like the result, well I guarantee you would be way more tolerant with your anchor scar and your lift result afterward. Because you would have tried without lift and experienced a non satisfaction. So this surgery of explant without lift is:
-best scenario: a big success and a way for you to finally turn the page and love yourself again.
-worse scenario: a pre-surgery before reaching the result that would make you happy (after the lift).

Can you afford to have a result that you would potentially never accept and that you would feel guilty for not trying without lift, for the rest of your life? Can you be strong enough to tolerate that? Would you be able to love yourself ? I doubt it. To me, from what i feel after reading your words, you would be put in a dangerous place of self-hate and destroy yourself. This risk is too big!! Way too big!! See... you have no choice. You need to try without lift first, then youll see what you want.

And... my advice would be to focus more on fixing your animation, because this wont go away without stitching the muscle on the chest. Ive been there. Only few doctors can do that in America. Mine was one of the best. I can give you some more technical details if you want.
October 15, 2017
In your situation I would honestly schedule the explant asap.

I would let my boobs d&f for a year. If you are really unhappy, get the lift.

I just think you've been through SO much you don't want the added complication of the lift.

You'll have to negotiate the lift with the PS & then recover. The lift recovery (as you know) can be awful. Also you'll be worried as heck about the compromised vascularity of the areola etc. It will be so stressful :(

I'd make it easy as possible on yourself. Just explant including capsules & recover. Worry about the lift later. You may never even want to xx
October 16, 2017
I wish you will be able to explant asap. Maybe just by inframmamary incision and let your body heal. Your photos show your body is suffering. You shouldn't t indulge. Pick a good and honest certified surgeon. You had enough tissue at start. Maybe he ll be able to remodel it and drop the lift for now. I wish you ll get better and to read you did it and are feeling better.