10 Year Saline Implants Cause Illness - Atlanta, GA

Dr Mark Crispin

Lisaroxy I did have drains. The capsulectomy was something I insisted on since I had heard of women leaving the capsules in, still being sick and having to have another surgery to remove them. As far as the look, my doctor as well as several others on real self have varying opinions. Most say there's a chance they will fluff out but most likely I will need fat transfers or more surgery. Definitely not more implants though. But I've been sick for so long and the implant removal surgery was very rough on me so I can't imagine I will ever go through another cosmetic procedure. I don't know if it's just one of those rare things or it could have been prevented but chances are, it's a part of me now unless it corrects itself.

I am feeling better, not completely well, but better. Yesterday was four weeks since surgery. I'm healing very slowly from surgery as well. So, I expect to feel even better when I'm finally healed from this surgery. My debilitating fatigue is gone. All burning pain in my left breast, arm and leg are gone. My joints ache less. Flu like symptoms are gone. My mind is clearer. I'm able to cook and clean again; something I haven't been able to do for months. However, I still suffer from mold illness and multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS). I do not know if those two conditions were caused by the implants or if I would have suffered from those illnesses regardless. And I did not expect those illness to go away following my implant removal. They are not allergies. They are a chronic inflammatory response to mold and chemicals. But I can avoid (or attempt to avoid) those exposures in order to stay well. I could not get away from my implants without removing them. Even with the disappointing cosmetic outcome, I still would choose to do it all over again, knowing the cosmetic outcome. Looks mean nothing to me if I can't get off the couch or out of the bed. And now I'm living my life again.

Wow. In get mine out for alot of the same reasons as you...

I don't know the specifics about my implants other than smooth saline under the muscle. My implants were not drained prior to removal. I'm more aware than I should be about allergies, mold, mcs, air quality testing and mold illness. After almost ten years of being sick, you learn a lot about environmental illness. I do suffer from mold illness and mcs. Whether those two things would have occurred regardless or whether the shell of the implant started it all, no one knows for sure. But I avoid mold, chemicals (as much as possible) and implants now.

I'm sorry Shay4nay for all that you have been through. Many doctors still believe saline implants can't make you sick. While I don't know the scientific specifics of any if it, I know my body better than any doctor ever will. What I can say for sure is that I was sicker before removing the implants than I am now. And I'm in communication with many women with similar symptoms that occurred after implanting. Many of whom are healing now after removing the implants.

Yes ma'am. Anytime we put objects in our bodies, our immune system attacks it thinking it is something it needs to fight. I know that I will feel much better after they are removed. Thank you for replying.

Hi Rairai2012, do u have any pictures of before your breast argument and also after your breast implants?

No. I don't. I only have my current post explant pictures.

Oh! O.K. I was just wondering what size you started off as and also what size you were with implants. Also, what age r u? The reason I ask is that in your picture your skin looks very youthful. I really believe u r going to bounce back very quickly. The most important thing is your health. I'm 53 and in a profession where your looks r important. I'm in the public eye and if not that, if you r not what is excepted by your peers than some of your co-workers talk about you. Of course, this happens in every area of life, family friends, etc. I hope this is making since. I started having migraines after getting my implants. Then after several years got very depressed, then came horrible anxiety. Now I'm having some weird joint issues. Not sure if it's related to my implants. Anyways, tomorrow is hopefully my last ps interview. I've had several so far. I've learned a lot from each one. For me my main concern is health. Next is I'd like to feel good about myself after the surgery. This is of course an inside job.. Next is how I'll look after the surgery (I'm having my explant next month). I'm giving myself at least a year to see how my body reacts with having the implants out. Not sure if I mentioned that I've had mine in for 23 years. I have silcone. The old ones. One of the ps I went to showed me the exact one I have and it looks and feels like a water ballon. Very liquidity inside. Oh! I gotta go. I'll be in touch. Just know we are all here for you.

I'm 41. And looks matter to me. That's why I paid for a lift. But I'm not in any type of career to which my looks matter. I just don't want to spend the second half of my life with self esteem issues. I was approximately an A cup before implants but with the skin of a B cup. I have four children and had lost weight. That was why I got implants. With implants, I was a D cup. I was almost all implant with very little of my own tissue. I think the only way to determine if your implants are making you sick is to remove them and see if you feel better. But I'm of the belief that some symptoms will last forever because once the damage is done, it's done. I think most doctors agree that silicone implants can make you sick.

I have saline and they make you sick as well...anytime there is a foreign object in your body the immune system tries to reject it. I was a flat A and brought up to a D cup. I am 43. They have been in my chest since 1995. Its time to get them out and move on with my life! I don't care how bad it looks. What good am I now?

That's how I felt; like it doesn't matter what you look like if you are sick. That's not to say that we don't want to look good though. We implanted in an attempt to change our looks. But if given a choice between health and looks, we choose health.

Well the man I am with loves me regardless. We will marry someday. He adores me. I prayed for years for him. He's the best thing that has ever happened to me. I adore him as well. I have dated some losers trust me. Now I have the man of my dreams. He loves me with or without makeup. ..skinny or fat. He just loves me period. It's time I got healthy so I can be a better partner.

Now that the right attitude. So happy you found such an amazing man.

Thank you!

But the plastic surgeons will still deny it .

Most of the plastic surgeons deny implant illness. I'm not sure if it's because that's what they truly believe or if it's because admitting so would hurt their income or make them feel guilty for continuing implanting. I think Drs have a mindset that if the government says it's fine, it's fine. That's just not always the truth. Implants are big money. And big money has a way of corrupting a system.

I do know there are women who don't get sick though. I'm not sure if their time is coming or if you have to have certain genetics in order to get sick from implants. I just know there are a lot of sick women who became sick after implanting.

Sorry for the typo's.

Hi, my left side is looking slightly better. The right is not. I'll give it at least a year before I consider any other options. But mostly, I'll probably just learn to live with it. Implants will never be a future option. I'll update my pics soon. Health wise, I am considerably better. Except for my multiple chemical sensitivity. It's much worse. I've now found out the anesthesia probably caused a chemical overload in my already toxic body. So I have given up all beauty items with chemicals and all my foods are now organic. Plus I'm detoxing to lighten my chemical load. I may have to do medical saunas also. But even with that increase in chemical sensitivity, I'm still so much better than I was. I'm sure I'll continue to improve even though I know some damage will be permanent. But I still don't regret my decision to explant even with the poor cosmetic outcome. I'm glad you have an explant date. I'm sure you are excited for that. And I would not worry about your post explant appearance. I haven't seen any pics of anyone who turned out as bad as me. But even the women I know who don't love their look, they are so excited to be well, they don't care. But feel free to show your doctor my pics and tell him if there's anyway to avoid it, to make sure my outcome doesn't happen to you. Although, it may have just been one of those rare un preventable things.

When I was so sick, it didn't matter what I looked like. I was willing to cut them off to be well. So while I'm disappointed in the cosmetic outcome, it was well worth it. I am living my life now. I am going to be very patient on the cosmetic outcome to improve. In the mean time, I still have some health concerns but it's nothing like before surgery where I felt like I was just going to waste away. I expect you will improve. I hope so.

Multiple chemical sensitivity. Good luck with your explant Chloangel.

I have chemical sensitivity too. Are you feeling better now that you have explanted?

I do some juicing, some green smoothies, green tea and I'm on a detox protocol. I eat all organic now, plus no refined sugar or dairy. I am making my home environment greener. I'm determined to beat this chemical sensitivity. Thanks for the positive words.

I don't know. I do know the area where the skin is indented is painful. I have no way of knowing if he did something wrong or not. I know lots of women who had the same surgery with no cosmetic problems.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I do think your PS botched your procedure. Have you thought about going to another PS for a free consult just to get a second opinion? I wonder if he did internal stitching of your skin or tissue to the back of your muscle because it should not be painful although it does look painful. I am praying for healing for you.

I too...think the dock did something wrong...after paying that much money I would confront him and ask him to fix you free of charge...something is attached underneath skin....

Maybe the crease was suppose to be bottom of breast and the nipple area is just to heavy(..to much skin on top of breast). Please after you give it time he suggest ..ask for a revision at no charge..you paid good money..he should make it right...

Yes, I agree. He should have to fix for free. You should see him right away and start a paper trail of conversation with him. I know they would have to wait at least 3 months because another surgery would compromise blood flow to your nipples and that can cause the tissue and nipples to die. But he does need to fix it. I wish I could remember the name of another woman on here who had what sounds like a similar situation. She never posted pics because she was to horrified, but she ended up having the same PS fix the botched job and was very pleased with the end result. It was within the past few months. Her PS wanted her to wait 6-12 months but then finally agreed after 3 months that her breasts did need a revision surgery and didn't look right. I looked up your PS and he seems to have good reviews. I would hold him accountable and start having the conversation about what he will do for you.

Are you thinking of derasha? I know she had problems and is now happier after her 2nd surgery.

I just read her story and now I'm wondering if I should go back and see my surgeon. I didn't go for my 6 week check up last week for two reasons. One, he was a jerk the previous visit. And, two, since I didn't think I was willing to fix the cosmetic problem, I didn't see any reason to. And I'm not willing to fix it any time soon. But maybe I should go talk to him just to see if he's willing to fix it free of charge at 1 year if I want to. Just the thought of having to go in and deal with him and this situation though almost makes me nauseous.

Derasha is who I was referring to. Thank you Petunia53. I do think you should follow up and not miss a single Appt. RaiRai2012 no matter how you feel about your PS. It's important for him to see you and how you're healing and the problems you're having. He can't know or help if you don't go. Be persistent and adamant about how you feel and what you expect just like Derasha. Again, I'm praying for you and believing for a good outcome no matter what you choose to do❤️

Rairai12...I personally think u should at least let him check you..see his work and see what he says...he mayhimself offer to fix it. Its his reputati

Its his reputation on the line... a little psych info one how men think.. men blame others and out side cercommstances before they look within themselfs..unlike women... we blame oneselfs first then look outside. So saying that..maybe thats why he was acting like a Jerk. Give him a chance to make it right.. if he does not mention it then have Courage and speak how your feel and what you would like him to do to make it right.

I'm not sure what to do about it.

The thing is, while I know what I suspect, I have no way of knowing what caused this. I have not consulted with another surgeon because I don't want to fix this right now. I don't think it will correct itself, at least not the right side, but I want to give it time to in case I'm wrong. It very well could be his error. Or it could be some rare unpreventable situation. I'm in contact with many women though who have had the same surgery and not a single one had this outcome. And, yes, my self esteem is damaged. Yes I appreciate that I'm getting well. But I could have gotten well just explanting. I paid for a lift so I would have a good cosmetic outcome. And while the surgeon may be responsible, he's not admitting it. And if he is responsible, why would I want him to operate on me again? Yes that would save me some money if he gave me a deal or did it free but to what outcome? What if I ended up more deformed? Or suffered through a procedure only to have less than ideal outcome again? Plus the only two options he has presented me is fat injections and a new set of implants. Well, if he was listening to me at all, he would know better than to even suggest more implants. And I'm not interested in fat injections right now. I may pursue that a year or two from now. But that procedure is not without risks, complications and possible poor outcome. I actually did not go back to him for my last checkup because I was so disappointed with his approach towards me at the previous checkup. At some point I may write a full review. But for now, I'm waiting to see how things play out because I don't know what my best option is.

I think your approach is wise. Wait and see. I think everyone's suggestions are coming from a good place....we feel outraged and empathetic....and want him to take responsibility for anything less than georgeous!....But asking for more from him may not result in a good outcome or really be rational. In time you may investigate some natural or fun alternatives.....if things don't improve. Ultherapy is suppsedly an option for some skin issues. Its noninvasive light therapy. Temporary tattoos could be fun camo too. Deep skin massage to break up scar tissue and adhesion? Hang in there. It can only get better! By the way....I've looked at your pics a few times. They're really not that horrible.

I suppose rairai2012 I see your point about not testing him...does he have a associate that you might consider to do the work for him? I have read where some people skin adhere to the rib flesh after capsulectomy...but im sorry to say..unless the skinned loosened up and broke away from rib flesh..it would mean another surgery. (Sort of like removing adhesions) .let just have some faith now.since you want to do anything right now..that maybe something positive will happen ..

I get where everyone is coming from. And I appreciate it. But this surgery was very hard on me. Even if it was a surgeon I trusted 100%, I just don't want to go through anything else right now. I do hate my cosmetic outcome. But I love that I'm healing from the implant illness. And that's why I still say the surgery was worth it. If I had to do over, I wouldn't do the lift at the time of explant. But I can't go back. I'll just be patient, hope it changes on it's own and if it doesn't, then decide if I want to live with it or try to fix it. For now, I'm still healing and I'm living my life again. I was not living my life a couple of months ago when implants were making me too sick to function. Prior to surgery I wasn't sure if the implants were the cause of my symptoms. Now I know for sure. And I'm thankful they are out.

Regret is a black hole that can swallow you up daily. I have found that whenever I find myself self loathing or thinking "could have....would have....should have" to ask myself "is this thinking helping me?" If it's not helping me I imagine a stop sign and try to turn my attention to more positive things in my life. We all have horrible regret for the choices we've made. Hindsight is 20/20. But we can't go back....only forward! Don't let regret eat you up. You need your energy to live your life. Your life is bright and full of possibilities. Hugs.

Well rairai12...I sure am glad you feel better...I woke us this morning ..anxious to the point I wanted to throw up..my explant is thursday...I felt horrible this morning. .I have all the symptoms of implant sicknes..and have had it several years.I just didnt realize what it was...I sur am praying that AFTER thursday. .I start feeling good and wanna live life again...

I will definitely send good thoughts your way. I have only known one person that didn't get better after explant and she had some crazy reaction to the antibiotic. If that had not of happened, I feel she would be getting well also. We all heal at different rates though. So be patient. I'm not sure how long you've had implants. You may have told me. But for me, it was almost ten years of illness. I didn't expect that to go away over night. And I also prepared myself for the fact that some damage is very likely to be permanent. I will also tell you I didn't just get the implants out and stop any other efforts. I eat very clean. I've made my home environment cleaner and greener. And I've eliminated almost all toxins out of my life, including those in my body products. Not everyone has to be as diligent as I do to avoid toxins. But if you do, after explant, I can point you in the right direction to an excellent book I read. It has helped me more than any doctor ever has, with the exception of explanting. Good luck Thursday.

Thanks raieai12..I would love to know name of book...thank you...xxxx

Sorry u r not feeling well. Though happy that u r getting your implants out. Please keep in touch. Im having mine out in 9 days.

Good luck to you lisaroxy. One Moe day.for me..I dont wanna LOOK!..lol..im a little scared..but im ok

Yea! Your going to look great. I'm sending happy thoughts your way...

It's Clean, Green, Lean by Dr Walter Crinnion.

I'm actually feeling very good. Still just emotional about the poor cosmetic outcome. I will be thinking about you and wishing you the best.

Thanks.. rairai1212..my big day I tomorrow...I so nervous!

I know all about the nervous side of it. It's crazy how I wasn't nervous at all to get the implants in but when it came time to get them out, I was so sick, I didn't see how my body could survive a surgery. But I talked to other women in the support group and they all felt the same yet survived and thrived. And so I knew I would. Just try to focus on the positive side of it. You'll be great :)

Thanks India

I had mine out 2 weeks ago. The girls have never been happier.