Biltmore Lift (Mini-lift) and Forehead Lift. 61 years old, Asheville, NC by Dr. Harley

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FEW min ago,,, not FEE. No Fee Involved for that :)

Dr. Harley's expertise is with the mini-lift. When I asked him during my consultation about the forehead lift he did not encourage me to have it done, at least not in his office. He suggested I see another doctor who would do the endoscopic lift instead- he does not do them because all of his surgeries are under local and the endoscopic would require at least iv sedation. That surgery is so invasive- I watched it on youtube- and I couldn't deal with the screws in the cranium to hold muscles and skin in place. I knew I wanted Dr. Harley to do the mini-lift so I had consultations with two other plastic surgeons regarding the forehead lift, thinking that I would have to have two separate surgeries. But after talking to them, I just didn't feel comfortable with having them do it. So I asked for a second consultation with Dr. Harley and he spent probably 30 minutes or more describing (again) why the incisions I thought would work may not be the best option. It has to do with the elasticity of the muscle and skin above versus below the hairline. And he's right. He had me pull up on my forehead and the brow and eyelid moved up nicely. But then when I pulled up from my scalp it was hard to see a big difference. Apparently once the incision is high enough to be out of sight, the results are diminished. I wanted small incisions (like 2" on each side) hidden in the hair. I told him that this was my only choice- I wanted to get rid of the hooded eyelids and the tired look and that I was not going to have an endoscopic lift by another doctor. I was very clear that I understood that the results may not be as prominent or last as long as I'd like. And I asked him to please just do it with incisions as small and high as possible. So he said that with understanding my expectations he would do the forehead lift. I LOVE the way it looks! I hope it lasts for a long time. At least it will never look worse. And I still do have the option of someday getting the endoscopic if I want. The forehead lift was $3500 and the mini-lift was $6400. If you want to send me your email, I'll be happy to send you the pictures of the two incisions- they're about 2.5", one is just barely in the hairline, the other is right on the hairline (that side of my face needed to be lifted a tad more to be even). I get the stitches out next Monday, but so far both incisions are healing well and I don't think they will be noticeable when they heal. But like I said, his expertise is the mini-lift and was 100% confident that I would be pleased with the results- and I am!

Thank you for taking the time to explain the forehead lift ...your results are exceptional. I look forward to seeing your pictures and reading the rest of your experience.

Thank you ever so much for taking your time to type all of that out!! Of course I had to run to the mirror! I guess it's not going to work for me, I have more brow sag..sigh, I need more work. I don't think I could handle an endo brow lift awake either after having watched it on youtube. My forehead has always been very high so I am considering a brow lowering along with the brow lift. Can't imagine being able to pull all my hair back off my face without looking terrible!! But WOW you look so good!! And that's what I love about Dr. H...that's what he does & he customizes it to our own faces!! What is not to love?? Guess I better get to scheduling so I can join you other Hotties!! Can't wait to see more pictures!! How is your sleeping? Are you finding something that makes you comfortable? I just ordered my supplements from Vitacost. Thank you for taking us thru your journey!!

So far I've been pretty comfortable and sleeping hasn't been a problem.

Thanks! It went so much better than what I anticipated! Especially having no bruising.

You're looking great! Would you be able to post pics of the brow lift incisions?

Ok, I did!

Thanks! I think he does wonderful work. And it was much easier than I expected. Only took 2 Tylenols for pain I think on the second night.

That's great! I had a lot of pain first night because of the bandages but once it was off, it was all good. You are going to keep looking better with each day.

Thanks!

$3500. You'll be seeing Dr. Harley? it's only been a week since my surgery but so far it' had been amazing. He is so kind and caring. I truly felt that I was in good hands and could relax through all parts- pre, during and post-op surgery.

Was this an endoscopic brow lift? If so, how many incisions were made? BTW, you look great!!

Yes! My surgery with Dr. Harley is July 7th. He didn't recommend a forehead lift for me, but I have a friend who thinks that may be what she needs. I forwarded your review to her and she asked about the price. I think she wants to wait and see how I do before she sees Dr. Harley. I am totally confident! Thank you for your encouraging posts. You really look 20 years younger! Just beautiful!

Thank you! If your experience is anything like mine, you're going to be so happy. He made me feel so comfortable and relaxed. I felt totally confident in his abilities- which is very unlike me. :). I felt like an important friend.

No, this was not an endoscopic brow lift. He only uses Valium and local anesthetic and it seems like the endoscopic is way too invasive for that procedure. I had two incicsions, each about 2.5" . I have pictures of them on the site.

Are you saying he wanted to refer you to another PS because he felt an endoscopic was what you needed ( I know you didn't want incisions in hair and preferred oral/local anesthetic) instead of the type of brow lift he does? Why was he suggesting initially that you not have the type brow lift he does?

No. He told me he does not do the endoscopic because it would take heavier sedation than what he uses in his office. I spoke to other doctors about having the endoscopic but it seemed too invasive for what I was ready to handle at this time.

I think that he thought it wouldn't give me the results I wanted.

Thanks! I live 8 hours away but my son and his wife live in Asheville. I had my son drive me to and from the appts and help out the first day but I stayed in a hotel. I have 2 grandkids, 3 and 6 and I didn't want them to see me with bandages and not being able to play with them like I usually do. I MUCH preferred the Valium and local anesthetic compared to even IV sedation. I wasn't awake, had no idea what was going on (except once I did feel something but went right back to sleep) but they were able to wake me up when it was over. I walked out of the office and into the hotel with help.

I really do not know, except I was afraid to have ant wotk on my eyes. Just a thing with me I guess.

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I wanted the brow lift. Dr. Harley did not suggest it. He doesn't do the endoscopic lifts because in his office he only uses Valium and local for the procedures and apparently patients need more for an endoscopic lift. It does look pretty invasive if you watch it on youtube. He was concerned I wouldn't be pleased with the results of the incision browlift. It's hard to get it as high at most people want I think and it may not last as long. And also the cuts are right at the hairline, not like and endoscopic, when they are far back in the scalp and smaller. But I didn't want an endoscopic- I don't like the idea of something being attached to my scull to hold it up till it heals. So after discussing it 3 or 4 times, I think Dr. Harley realized that I would be realistic in my expectations and was willing to do it. I know it's really important to him that his patients are pleased with the results and his Biltmore lifts are beautiful. He and I both felt very confident about the Biltmore lift. And I'm really happy with the brow lift, but there's no guarantee on how long it will look as good as it does now. Hopefully a long time.

Thanks so much for explaining. Dr. Harley sounds like a very conscientious doctor. I can't believe this is not a procedure he performs regularly because your results are just beautiful. Here's hoping your brow lift last for 20 years! :)

Thanks!